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Mark III
08-06-2017, 05:54 PM
Trump policy advisor Stephen Miller was at the podium to defend the president’s new immigration proposal, which would prioritize high-skilled immigrants who already speak English.
Miller faced pushback from reporters, including a heated back-and-forth with CNN’s Jim Acosta, who quoted the Statue of Liberty’s famous inscription (“give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses...”) and questioned whether the immigration policy changes were in line with those values.
Miller shot back, saying “that is one of the most outrageous, insulting, ignorant, and foolish things you’ve ever said.” But it was his accusation that Acosta has a “cosmopolitan bias” that stood out.
“Cosmopolitan” isn’t a word that’s frequently heard in American politics (“elite” is much more common), but it wouldn’t be out of place in Adolf Hitler's Germany or Joseph Stalin's Soviet Union.
It was an “anti-Semitic fighting term,” Volker Ullrich writes in his biography, Hitler: Ascent, “used against the Jews by Nazis and Bolsheviks alike.” Ullrich writes that the Jewish diaspora in Europe was “considered not only cosmopolitan, but also rootless, and in the late 1940s the term became a code word for Jews who insisted on their Jewish identity.”
Today, as Politico notes (http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/08/03/the-ugly-history-of-stephen-millers-cosmopolitan-epithet-215454), the definition has expanded — “in the eyes of their foes, 'cosmopolitans' tend to cluster in the universities, the arts and in urban centers, where familiarity with diversity makes for a high comfort level with 'untraditional' ideas and lives.”
But its ugly history means that the word “cosmopolitan” still serves as a dog whistle within the white nationalist movement in the United States.
“Dog whistles work kind of like Easter eggs,” said Cristina López, who studies trends in alt-right language at the media watchdog group Media Matters. “You have to know what you’re looking for to find it — and therefore they land with a very specific kind of audience and fly over the heads of everyone else.”
Dog whistles can be insidious — they seem innocuous, and give the speaker a buffer against accusations of racism, sexism or worse, while simultaneously energizing the base. That’s why they’ve been (https://books.google.co.uk/books?hl=en&lr=&id=20QSDAAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PP1&dq=coded+language+politics&ots=jmR44KI7FS&sig=3V-_7ua6na5mbcl8srXUFWydeRc#v=onepage&q=coded%20language%20politics&f=false) so popular in political speeches throughout history.
It’s hard to prove a dog whistle, says López, but the use of the word “cosmopolitan” has struck a nerve. “Miller is right now being celebrated in the corners of the alt-right, white nationalistic internet as a hero.”

https://www.pri.org/stories/2017-08-03/cosmopolitan-dog-whistle-word-once-used-nazi-germany-and-communist-russia

Mark III
08-06-2017, 05:55 PM
This was no run of the mill slip of the tongue or innocent expression.

This is Miller's lingo of choice.

Safety
08-06-2017, 05:57 PM
Interesting.

Chris
08-06-2017, 05:57 PM
Trump policy advisor Stephen Miller was at the podium to defend the president’s new immigration proposal, which would prioritize high-skilled immigrants who already speak English.
Miller faced pushback from reporters, including a heated back-and-forth with CNN’s Jim Acosta, who quoted the Statue of Liberty’s famous inscription (“give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses...”) and questioned whether the immigration policy changes were in line with those values.
Miller shot back, saying “that is one of the most outrageous, insulting, ignorant, and foolish things you’ve ever said.” But it was his accusation that Acosta has a “cosmopolitan bias” that stood out.
“Cosmopolitan” isn’t a word that’s frequently heard in American politics (“elite” is much more common), but it wouldn’t be out of place in Adolf Hitler's Germany or Joseph Stalin's Soviet Union.
It was an “anti-Semitic fighting term,” Volker Ullrich writes in his biography, Hitler: Ascent, “used against the Jews by Nazis and Bolsheviks alike.” Ullrich writes that the Jewish diaspora in Europe was “considered not only cosmopolitan, but also rootless, and in the late 1940s the term became a code word for Jews who insisted on their Jewish identity.”
Today, as Politico notes (http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/08/03/the-ugly-history-of-stephen-millers-cosmopolitan-epithet-215454), the definition has expanded — “in the eyes of their foes, 'cosmopolitans' tend to cluster in the universities, the arts and in urban centers, where familiarity with diversity makes for a high comfort level with 'untraditional' ideas and lives.”
But its ugly history means that the word “cosmopolitan” still serves as a dog whistle within the white nationalist movement in the United States.
“Dog whistles work kind of like Easter eggs,” said Cristina López, who studies trends in alt-right language at the media watchdog group Media Matters. “You have to know what you’re looking for to find it — and therefore they land with a very specific kind of audience and fly over the heads of everyone else.”
Dog whistles can be insidious — they seem innocuous, and give the speaker a buffer against accusations of racism, sexism or worse, while simultaneously energizing the base. That’s why they’ve been (https://books.google.co.uk/books?hl=en&lr=&id=20QSDAAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PP1&dq=coded+language+politics&ots=jmR44KI7FS&sig=3V-_7ua6na5mbcl8srXUFWydeRc#v=onepage&q=coded%20language%20politics&f=false) so popular in political speeches throughout history.
It’s hard to prove a dog whistle, says López, but the use of the word “cosmopolitan” has struck a nerve. “Miller is right now being celebrated in the corners of the alt-right, white nationalistic internet as a hero.”

https://www.pri.org/stories/2017-08-03/cosmopolitan-dog-whistle-word-once-used-nazi-germany-and-communist-russia


Miller is Jewish.



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Safety
08-06-2017, 05:59 PM
Clarence Thomas is black, and Tim Wise is white, what was your point?

Chris
08-06-2017, 06:01 PM
Cosmopolitanism is the ideology that all human beings belong to a single community, based on a shared morality. A person who adheres to the idea of cosmopolitanism in any of its forms is called a cosmopolitan or cosmopolite.

...Cosmopolitanism can be traced back to Diogenes of Sinope (c. 412 B.C.), the founding father of the Cynic movement in Ancient Greece. Of Diogenes it is said: "Asked where he came from, he answered: 'I am a citizen of the world (kosmopolitęs)'".

...In his 1795 essay Perpetual Peace: A Philosophical Sketch, Immanuel Kant stages a ius cosmopoliticum (cosmopolitan law/right) as a guiding principle to protect people from war, and morally grounds this cosmopolitan right by the principle of universal hospitality.

...Derrida...



There is a tradition of cosmopolitanism, and if we had time we could study this tradition, which comes to us from, on the one hand, Greek thought with the Stoics, who have a concept of the 'citizen of the world'. You also have St. Paul in the Christian tradition, also a certain call for a citizen of the world as, precisely, a brother. St. Paul says that we are all brothers, that is sons of God, so we are not foreigners, we belong to the world as citizens of the world; and it is this tradition that we could follow up until Kant for instance, in whose concept of cosmopolitanism we find the conditions for hospitality. But in the concept of the cosmopolitical in Kant there are a number of conditions: first of all you should of course welcome the stranger, the foreigner, to the extent that he is a citizen of another country, that you grant him the right to visit and not to stay, and there are a number of other conditions that I can't summarise here quickly, but this concept of the cosmopolitical which is very novel, very worthy of respect (and I think cosmopolitanism is a very good thing), is a very limited concept. (Derrida cited in Bennington 1997).

...A further state of cosmopolitanism occurred after the Second World War. As a reaction to the Holocaust and the other massacres, the concept of crimes against humanity became a generally accepted category in international law. This clearly shows the appearance and acceptance of a notion of individual responsibility that is considered to exist toward all of humankind.

@ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmopolitanism


"dog whistle word once used in Nazi Germany and Communist Russia"

:smiley_ROFLMAO:

Mark III
08-06-2017, 06:02 PM
Miller is Jewish.





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“Miller is right now being celebrated in the corners of the alt-right, white nationalistic internet as a hero.”

Private Pickle
08-06-2017, 06:03 PM
Any chance to invoke Nazi's and Hitler amirite?

Mark III
08-06-2017, 06:06 PM
Interesting.

When was the last time we saw the word cosmopolitan used in an American political commentary?

It doesn't happen much.

Miller wants white and European immigration, or from those who are not white or European , but wiling to submit to integrating into a white European like culture.

They call it "nationalism" , but it is really "white nationalism".

Chris
08-06-2017, 06:07 PM
When was the last time we saw the word cosmopolitan used in an American political commentary?

It doesn't happen much.

Miller wants white and European immigration, or from those who are not white or European , but wiling to submit to integrating into a white European like culture.

They call it "nationalism" , but it is really "white nationalism".


You're good at inventing straw men: He said this but he meant that.

You're criticizing yourself.

Mark III
08-06-2017, 06:09 PM
"White nationalist groups have also adopted the term “cosmopolitan” into their lexicon to attack those they see as “globalists.” The word is frequently used across white nationalist websites and forums like Stormfront, (https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t287327/) which has its own section on the philosophy page devoted to the idea of “cosmopolitanism.” There, white nationalists espouse dangerous thoughts, including this one: “Confronted with the ruins of their culture, and having been abandoned by the state which purports to represent them, white Americans will have to fall back on their inherited racial and ethnic identities. Only then will the historic American people find the strength to turn the tables on cosmopolitan elites.” This, they claim, is the antithesis to the nationalist, who, above all, puts love of country first.

David Duke, former Imperial Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan and noted Holocaust-denier, used the term “cosmopolitan” on his website in a 2014 post (https://davidduke.com/jewish-supremacists-demand-world-recognizes-israel-jews-state/) titled “Jewish Supremacists Demand that World Recognizes Israel as a Jews-Only State.” In it, Duke claims that “Jewish Supremacists,” including the U.S. ambassador to Israel, demand that everyone “be as mixed and as cosmopolitan as possible.”
Other corners of white nationalists on the internet like VDare use the term “cosmopolitan” to support their positions on immigration. A post on VDare (http://www.vdare.com/posts/michael-ignatieff-on-who-belongs-it-turns-out-people-dont-think-immigration-is-a-right) titled “It Turns Out People Don’t Think Immigration Is A Right” describes the current state of immigration as “an ideological split between cosmopolitan elites who see immigration as a common good based in universal rights and voters who see it as a gift conferred on certain outsiders deemed worthy of joining the community.”"

https://thinkprogress.org/stephen-millers-strange-insult-of-a-reporter-is-very-familiar-to-white-supremacists/

Mark III
08-06-2017, 06:11 PM
You're good at inventing straw men: He said this but he meant that.

You're criticizing yourself.

You are good at avoiding the obvious.

Chris
08-06-2017, 06:12 PM
"White nationalist groups have also adopted the term “cosmopolitan” into their lexicon to attack those they see as “globalists.” The word is frequently used across white nationalist websites and forums like Stormfront, (https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t287327/) which has its own section on the philosophy page devoted to the idea of “cosmopolitanism.” There, white nationalists espouse dangerous thoughts, including this one: “Confronted with the ruins of their culture, and having been abandoned by the state which purports to represent them, white Americans will have to fall back on their inherited racial and ethnic identities. Only then will the historic American people find the strength to turn the tables on cosmopolitan elites.” This, they claim, is the antithesis to the nationalist, who, above all, puts love of country first.

David Duke, former Imperial Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan and noted Holocaust-denier, used the term “cosmopolitan” on his website in a 2014 post (https://davidduke.com/jewish-supremacists-demand-world-recognizes-israel-jews-state/) titled “Jewish Supremacists Demand that World Recognizes Israel as a Jews-Only State.” In it, Duke claims that “Jewish Supremacists,” including the U.S. ambassador to Israel, demand that everyone “be as mixed and as cosmopolitan as possible.”
Other corners of white nationalists on the internet like VDare use the term “cosmopolitan” to support their positions on immigration. A post on VDare (http://www.vdare.com/posts/michael-ignatieff-on-who-belongs-it-turns-out-people-dont-think-immigration-is-a-right) titled “It Turns Out People Don’t Think Immigration Is A Right” describes the current state of immigration as “an ideological split between cosmopolitan elites who see immigration as a common good based in universal rights and voters who see it as a gift conferred on certain outsiders deemed worthy of joining the community.”"

https://thinkprogress.org/stephen-millers-strange-insult-of-a-reporter-is-very-familiar-to-white-supremacists/


Wow, you found an opinion like yours.

So Miller is a Nazi Jew?

Chris
08-06-2017, 06:12 PM
You are good at avoiding the obvious.

Sorry, I don't hear your dog whistles.

Mark III
08-06-2017, 06:16 PM
Sorry, I don't hear your dog whistles.

Chris, I know that you want to pretend that the weirdo Stephen Miller is a normal human being, but ..... nah. He's not.

There is a rumor he is in line for Scaramucci's old job at the White House. That would be , uh, eventful.

Mister D
08-06-2017, 06:34 PM
The Nazi Jew theory returns! lol @ this thread. Imbecile.

Mister D
08-06-2017, 06:35 PM
Wow, you found an opinion like yours.

So Miller is a Nazi Jew?
I'm always amused when a lunatic op ed is presented as evidence.

Captain Obvious
08-06-2017, 06:37 PM
The Nazi Jew theory returns! lol @ this thread. Imbecile.

Must be what the leftist hack machine is pumping to the herd lately

Mister D
08-06-2017, 06:41 PM
Must be what the leftist hack machine is pumping to the herd lately
Yeah, Bo presented the Miller is a Nazi accusation the other day. After I informed Bo that Miller is a Jew he squirmed for a while ("but he's not a practicing Jew!" lol) but he had the dignity to back away from what is a manifestly ludicrous claim. I don't think Mark has either the dignity to care or even the intelligence to realize he's making a complete ass of himself.

KathyS
08-06-2017, 06:43 PM
You are good at avoiding the obvious.

What is obvious is your source's deliberate omission of what actually took place during the exchange between Miller & Acosta.

Listen to the conversation at around 3:25- THAT remark from Acosta is what initiated the slap down by Miller. Acosta was called on his own racism/bias, which was well deserved.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=stephen+miller+acosta+cnn&&view=detail&mid=DA28A1E80E6091B38DC5DA28A1E80E6091B38DC5&FORM=VRDGAR

The Xl
08-06-2017, 06:43 PM
Lol, Jesus Christ....

Captain Obvious
08-06-2017, 06:49 PM
Yeah, Bo presented the Miller is a Nazi accusation the other day. After I informed Bo that Miller is a Jew he squirmed for a while ("but he's not a practicing Jew!" lol) but he had the dignity to back away from what is a manifestly ludicrous claim. I don't think Mark has either the dignity to care or even the intelligence to realize he's making a complete ass of himself.

It's funny how one can see stuff like this trending here but nowhere else.

Chris
08-06-2017, 06:52 PM
Chris, I know that you want to pretend that the weirdo Stephen Miller is a normal human being, but ..... nah. He's not.

There is a rumor he is in line for Scaramucci's old job at the White House. That would be , uh, eventful.



Right. Your argument is so immaculately logical. A, B and C use the word cosmopolitan. They're evil racist anti-smites. Miller used the word. Therefore he is too.

(hint: Fallacy of the undistributed middle.)

Chris
08-06-2017, 06:53 PM
Yeah, Bo presented the Miller is a Nazi accusation the other day. After I informed Bo that Miller is a Jew he squirmed for a while ("but he's not a practicing Jew!" lol) but he had the dignity to back away from what is a manifestly ludicrous claim. I don't think Mark has either the dignity to care or even the intelligence to realize he's making a complete ass of himself.


Yea, stole that and tossed in a fail meme.

Green Arrow
08-06-2017, 06:54 PM
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Safety
08-06-2017, 06:57 PM
When was the last time we saw the word cosmopolitan used in an American political commentary?

It doesn't happen much.

Miller wants white and European immigration, or from those who are not white or European , but wiling to submit to integrating into a white European like culture.

They call it "nationalism" , but it is really "white nationalism".

Consider your surroundings and the willfulness of those to ignore the role a useful idiot plays. There are many people that take the opposite stance of a belief, just to placate those they serve, like Clarence Thomas’s stance against AA, of which if Fr. Brooks didn’t actively search for twenty black students, he would never have been heard of today.

Ethereal
08-06-2017, 07:24 PM
Clarence Thomas is black, and Tim Wise is white, what was your point?
What's your point?

Ethereal
08-06-2017, 07:26 PM
Miller used the word cosmopolitan. Must mean he's a closet Nazi. Impeccable logic.

Newpublius
08-06-2017, 07:29 PM
Miller used the word cosmopolitan. Must mean he's a closet Nazi. Impeccable logic.

Prior to just recently I had never heard of the word used in a pejorative sense.....EVER.

Safety
08-06-2017, 07:33 PM
What's your point?

That evidently Miller cannot be sympathetic to nazis or white nationalists because he is jewish. That is flawed thinking, based upon the examples I provided.

Peter1469
08-06-2017, 07:37 PM
That evidently Miller cannot be sympathetic to nazis or white nationalists because he is jewish. That is flawed thinking, based upon the examples I provided.

The Clarence Thomas / conservative black analogy does not help your case.

Safety
08-06-2017, 07:44 PM
The Clarence Thomas / conservative black analogy does not help your case.

How does it not? Clarence Thomas is a staunch advocate against AA, yet he was the one person that probably received the most benefit from it, considering it allowed him to be on the path that set him up for where he is today. That is going against one's self serving beliefs.

My point was and continues to be that there are some people in this world that go against what is beneficial for them in order to please whomever they serve.

Peter1469
08-06-2017, 07:50 PM
How does it not? Clarence Thomas is a staunch advocate against AA, yet he was the one person that probably received the most benefit from it, considering it allowed him to be on the path that set him up for where he is today. That is going against one's self serving beliefs.

My point was and continues to be that there are some people in this world that go against what is beneficial for them in order to please whomever they serve.

Advocating against AA while benefiting from it is not similar to using Nazi code-words. Unless the Nazis weren't all that bad after all (which I don't believe).

Safety
08-06-2017, 07:53 PM
Advocating against AA while benefiting from it is not similar to using Nazi code-words. Unless the Nazis weren't all that bad after all (which I don't believe).

It's not ever going to be a 1:1 ratio on accuracy, but it's in the ballpark.

Peter1469
08-06-2017, 07:55 PM
It's not ever going to be a 1:1 ratio on accuracy, but it's in the ballpark.

I don't think the Nazi regime is anywhere near the same ball park.

Private Pickle
08-06-2017, 07:57 PM
I don't think the Nazi regime is anywhere near the same ball park.
It's not even a ballpark to begin with.

Safety
08-06-2017, 07:59 PM
I don't think the Nazi regime is anywhere near the same ball park.

I disagree, but that's not surprising.

Chris
08-06-2017, 08:05 PM
One is Heideköpfe-Ballpark, Heidenheim, Germany, the other Yankee Stadium.

Mister D
08-06-2017, 08:14 PM
The Clarence Thomas / conservative black analogy does not help your case.

Incredible.

KathyS
08-06-2017, 08:19 PM
That evidently Miller cannot be sympathetic to nazis or white nationalists because he is jewish. That is flawed thinking, based upon the examples I provided.

Holy Mother of God, who in their right mind should be sympathetic towards those whose goal is to wipe you off the face of the earth???

* where's the wine*

KathyS
08-06-2017, 08:20 PM
It's not even a ballpark to begin with.

Or a pile of sand....

resister
08-06-2017, 08:24 PM
Holy Mother of God, who in their right mind be sympathetic towards those whose goal is to wipe you off the face of the earth???

* where's the wine*What is a jewish womens favorite wine? "I wanna go ta Miami" ! :)
Yes, his claim was absurd.

Kalkin
08-06-2017, 08:25 PM
'Cosmopolitan' is a dog whistle word once used in Nazi Germany and Communist Russia

It's also a drink and a magazine. Oh, the horror!

Mister D
08-06-2017, 08:26 PM
Holy Mother of God, who in their right mind be sympathetic towards those whose goal is to wipe you off the face of the earth???

* where's the wine*
Don't try to understand it.

resister
08-06-2017, 08:28 PM
It's also a drink and a magazine. Oh, the horror!
Drink a cosmopolitan and read the magazine and simultaneously use the word? POOF, you shapeshift into Hitler!

Safety
08-06-2017, 08:55 PM
Holy Mother of God, who in their right mind be sympathetic towards those whose goal is to wipe you off the face of the earth???

* where's the wine*

It sounds pretty ridiculous doesn’t it, almost as silly as blacks who fought for the confederacy....there are no shortages of idiots in this world.

Captain Obvious
08-06-2017, 09:13 PM
Miller used the word cosmopolitan. Must mean he's a closet Nazi. Impeccable logic.

I see "cosmopolitan" twice in this forum.

The lemmings are complying.

Tahuyaman
08-06-2017, 10:08 PM
This was no run of the mill slip of the tongue or innocent expression.

This is Miller's lingo of choice.

Is this thread for real?

Tahuyaman
08-06-2017, 10:10 PM
Drink a cosmopolitan and read the magazine and simultaneously use the word? POOF, you shapeshift into Hitler!
A cosmopolitan is a chick drink.

resister
08-06-2017, 10:14 PM
A cosmopolitan is a chick drink.
I'll tip a Natty ice to that!

KathyS
08-06-2017, 10:31 PM
It sounds pretty ridiculous doesn’t it, almost as silly as blacks who fought for the confederacy....there are no shortages of idiots in this world.
I'm sorry Safety, you lost me here. Can you clarify? Btw, I love "The Book of Eli."

Ethereal
08-06-2017, 11:44 PM
That evidently Miller cannot be sympathetic to nazis or white nationalists because he is jewish. That is flawed thinking, based upon the examples I provided.
I don't see how your examples are at all relevant. Do you think Clarence Thomas hates black people or something? Hates himself?

Ethereal
08-06-2017, 11:46 PM
Incredible.

Yea, Clarence Thomas opposes affirmative action, so that makes him the black equivalent of a Jewish Nazi. Stellar reasoning as usual.

resister
08-07-2017, 12:00 AM
Yea, Clarence Thomas opposes affirmative action, so that makes him the black equivalent of a Jewish Nazi. Stellar reasoning as usual.Or an uncle tom fighting for the Confederacy.

Dr. Who
08-07-2017, 12:35 AM
Right. You don't have to look very hard to find the word cosmopolitan being used pejoratively:
https://alternative-right.blogspot.com/2016/12/the-cosmopolitan-and-european.html

Tahuyaman
08-07-2017, 12:38 AM
consider your surroundings and the willfulness of those to ignore the role a useful idiot plays. There are many people that take the opposite stance of a belief, just to placate those they serve, like clarence thomas’s stance against aa, of which if fr. Brooks didn’t actively search for twenty black students, he would never have been heard of today.wtf.....?

The Xl
08-07-2017, 12:46 AM
Lol at this whole thread.

KathyS
08-07-2017, 01:20 AM
I'm so confused.

Safety
08-07-2017, 06:56 AM
I'm sorry Safety, you lost me here. Can you clarify? Btw, I love "The Book of Eli."

Where exactly did I lose you? The argument in this thread about Miller and "nazism" is being discussed about how ridiculous that is because he is Jewish. My point is that it doesn't matter, for there are plenty of examples of people going against their own self-interest.

Safety
08-07-2017, 06:58 AM
Yea, Clarence Thomas opposes affirmative action, so that makes him the black equivalent of a Jewish Nazi. Stellar reasoning as usual.

It was argued before that when Jeffery Lord referenced MLK and Trump, the comparison was not meant to be taken on a 1:1 basis. Yet here we are...

Safety
08-07-2017, 07:01 AM
I don't see how your examples are at all relevant. Do you think Clarence Thomas hates black people or something? Hates himself?

Who knows what Clarence Thomas thinks or feels about black people, one can only go by his actions and judicial record. Which was pretty much in lockstep with Scalia or Rehnquist.

DGUtley
08-07-2017, 07:12 AM
I don't know about dog whistles but I took what Miller was saying as criticizing the liberal elites.

Bo-4
08-07-2017, 09:31 AM
I call him Pee Wee Goebbels ;-)

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/6c/80/12/6c8012fe8fbc2a20b4336b2f3ab2483e--stephen-miller-pee-wee-herman.jpg

Chris
08-07-2017, 09:51 AM
I call him Pee Wee Goebbels ;-)

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/6c/80/12/6c8012fe8fbc2a20b4336b2f3ab2483e--stephen-miller-pee-wee-herman.jpg


Right, the Jewish Pee Wee Goebbels.

https://s1.postimg.org/s4n6z2iof/bc5b82198b784c2204c0d967b7f37ee188030611.gif


Such desperation. Still stunned Trump won.

Chris
08-07-2017, 09:52 AM
I don't know about dog whistles but I took what Miller was saying as criticizing the liberal elites.


Cosmopolitan would be another term for globalist.

Chris
08-07-2017, 09:53 AM
Who knows what Clarence Thomas thinks or feels about black people, one can only go by his actions and judicial record. Which was pretty much in lockstep with Scalia or Rehnquist.

If you don't know what Justice Thomas thinks then your tu quoque is meaningless--it is anyhow, but doubly so.

Mister D
08-07-2017, 09:56 AM
Yea, Clarence Thomas opposes affirmative action, so that makes him the black equivalent of a Jewish Nazi. Stellar reasoning as usual.
He's irrational. I don't try to understand it anymore.

Mister D
08-07-2017, 09:59 AM
I don't know about dog whistles but I took what Miller was saying as criticizing the liberal elites.
IOW, you took it as any intelligent person would.

Mister D
08-07-2017, 09:59 AM
If you don't know what Justice Thomas thinks then your tu quoque is meaningless--it is anyhow, but doubly so.
It's just a poor analogy.

Mister D
08-07-2017, 10:02 AM
Cosmopolitan would be another term for globalist.
I also use it in reference to those middle class and well to do whites who generally support immigration because they can seal themselves off from its consequences.

Safety
08-07-2017, 10:17 AM
If you don't know what Justice Thomas thinks then your tu quoque is meaningless--it is anyhow, but doubly so.

Sure it is. Put a different record on.

Chris
08-07-2017, 10:30 AM
Sure it is. Put a different record on.

Here you go...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MMMe1drnZY

Mark III
08-07-2017, 03:54 PM
Consider your surroundings and the willfulness of those to ignore the role a useful idiot plays. There are many people that take the opposite stance of a belief, just to placate those they serve, like Clarence Thomas’s stance against AA, of which if Fr. Brooks didn’t actively search for twenty black students, he would never have been heard of today.

Safety, you know I don't show up here much. This forum is way too ridiculous for daily consumption. I give you props for staying here and tolerating and trying to effect this travesty every day.

Miller is a white nationalist, and so was the use of his dog whistle of cosmopolitan. It doesn't matter if he is Jewish or not. The Nazi reference indicates the appeal to those who are white nationalists and admirers of the Nazis. It does not necessarily reflect on Miller's background. As you say, he is the conduit.

Next we will hear from these morons that there is no connection between Nazi references and racism in America.

They will do what they want, intelligent people know what sort of farce takes place on these pages.

Chris
08-07-2017, 03:57 PM
Safety, you know I don't show up here much. This forum is way too ridiculous for daily consumption. I give you props for staying here and tolerating and trying to effect this travesty every day.

Miller is a white nationalist, and so was the use of his dog whistle of cosmopolitan. It doesn't matter if he is Jewish or not. The Nazi reference indicates the appeal to those who are white nationalists and admirers of the Nazis. It does not necessarily reflect on Miller's background. As you say, he is the conduit.

Next we will hear from these morons that there is no connection between Nazi references and racism in America.

They will do what they want, intelligent people know what sort of farce takes place on these pages.



It doesn't matter if he is Jewish or not because to you reality doesn't matter. The farce is all yours.

Mister D
08-07-2017, 03:57 PM
Safety, you know I don't show up here much. This forum is way too ridiculous for daily consumption. I give you props for staying here and tolerating and trying to effect this travesty every day.

Miller is a white nationalist, and so was the use of his dog whistle of cosmopolitan. It doesn't matter if he is Jewish or not. The Nazi reference indicates the appeal to those who are white nationalists and admirers of the Nazis. It does not necessarily reflect on Miller's background. As you say, he is the conduit.

Next we will hear from these morons that there is no connection between Nazi references and racism in America.

They will do what they want, intelligent people know what sort of farce takes place on these pages.
Sadly, Safety will whore himself out to just about anybody these days. Anyway, YOU made the Nazi reference. Mark, you're an idiot. Seriously.

@Mister D Infraction for a pattern of insults across threads

Mark III
08-07-2017, 04:03 PM
Right. You don't have to look very hard to find the word cosmopolitan being used pejoratively:
https://alternative-right.blogspot.com/2016/12/the-cosmopolitan-and-european.html
"To cease to see Cosmopolitans as Europeans like ourselves is to illuminate many aspects of their conduct that have hitherto been shrouded in mystery. For instance, we need no longer resort to such non-explanations as "cuckery" and "ethnomasochism" when Cosmopolitans constantly indulge and excuse certain non-whites, despite clear evidence of their stubborn ingratitude, blatant racial self-interest, and ferocious hatred of all whites without exception. Leaving aside the fact that non-white identitarianism makes a useful temporary ally against the European nationalist threat, Cosmopolitans are painfully aware that a World Citadel filled with white people has a very fragile legitimacy as a future world-ruling state. Thus, in the name of long-term collective self-interest, they are more than willing to clasp vipers to their bosoms and brave the occasional bites that result (most of which, in any case, tend to fall upon non-Cosmopolitan whites).

The persistence of racial parochialism in non-whites may well imply that the Cosmopolitan identity, having grown out of the white race, may in truth be no more accessible to Africans and Indians than any other European identity. However, Cosmopolitans are already severing non-white identities from their historical roots through the purely negative and individualist pseudo-identity of "Persons of Colour (PoCs)," and they can yet count on the long-term effects of racial mixing within the World Citadel to destroy these non-white identities completely. If Cosmopolitans are wont to engage in moralistic diatribes against eugenics,"

that is the sort of gobbledygook that Mister D and Chris and a few others revel in. I wonder if one of them wrote that article?

Mister D
08-07-2017, 04:04 PM
It doesn't matter if he is Jewish or not because to you reality doesn't matter. The farce is all yours.
Like Bo, he got his marching orders. Like Bo, he doesn't realize this tripe is made for his consumption. Everyone else is rolling their eyes.

Mister D
08-07-2017, 04:05 PM
"To cease to see Cosmopolitans as Europeans like ourselves is to illuminate many aspects of their conduct that have hitherto been shrouded in mystery. For instance, we need no longer resort to such non-explanations as "cuckery" and "ethnomasochism" when Cosmopolitans constantly indulge and excuse certain non-whites, despite clear evidence of their stubborn ingratitude, blatant racial self-interest, and ferocious hatred of all whites without exception. Leaving aside the fact that non-white identitarianism makes a useful temporary ally against the European nationalist threat, Cosmopolitans are painfully aware that a World Citadel filled with white people has a very fragile legitimacy as a future world-ruling state. Thus, in the name of long-term collective self-interest, they are more than willing to clasp vipers to their bosoms and brave the occasional bites that result (most of which, in any case, tend to fall upon non-Cosmopolitan whites).

The persistence of racial parochialism in non-whites may well imply that the Cosmopolitan identity, having grown out of the white race, may in truth be no more accessible to Africans and Indians than any other European identity. However, Cosmopolitans are already severing non-white identities from their historical roots through the purely negative and individualist pseudo-identity of "Persons of Colour (PoCs)," and they can yet count on the long-term effects of racial mixing within the World Citadel to destroy these non-white identities completely. If Cosmopolitans are wont to engage in moralistic diatribes against eugenics,"

that is the sort of gobbledygook that Mister D and Chris and a few others revel in. I wonder if one of them wrote that article?
Yes, this is the sort of thing Chris revels in. Mark, you're babbling now.

Mark III
08-07-2017, 04:07 PM
Sadly, Safety will $#@! himself out to just about anybody these days. Anyway, YOU made the Nazi reference. Mark, you're an idiot. Seriously.

I don't take advice or criticism from racists. Sorry.

Mark III
08-07-2017, 04:08 PM
Yes, this is the sort of thing Chris revels in. Mark, you're babbling now.


You write the book on babbling, so your expertise at it must be respected.

Mister D
08-07-2017, 04:08 PM
I don't take advice or criticism from racists. Sorry.
You're stupid, Mark. Seriously.

Chris
08-07-2017, 04:09 PM
"To cease to see Cosmopolitans as Europeans like ourselves is to illuminate many aspects of their conduct that have hitherto been shrouded in mystery. For instance, we need no longer resort to such non-explanations as "cuckery" and "ethnomasochism" when Cosmopolitans constantly indulge and excuse certain non-whites, despite clear evidence of their stubborn ingratitude, blatant racial self-interest, and ferocious hatred of all whites without exception. Leaving aside the fact that non-white identitarianism makes a useful temporary ally against the European nationalist threat, Cosmopolitans are painfully aware that a World Citadel filled with white people has a very fragile legitimacy as a future world-ruling state. Thus, in the name of long-term collective self-interest, they are more than willing to clasp vipers to their bosoms and brave the occasional bites that result (most of which, in any case, tend to fall upon non-Cosmopolitan whites).

The persistence of racial parochialism in non-whites may well imply that the Cosmopolitan identity, having grown out of the white race, may in truth be no more accessible to Africans and Indians than any other European identity. However, Cosmopolitans are already severing non-white identities from their historical roots through the purely negative and individualist pseudo-identity of "Persons of Colour (PoCs)," and they can yet count on the long-term effects of racial mixing within the World Citadel to destroy these non-white identities completely. If Cosmopolitans are wont to engage in moralistic diatribes against eugenics,"

that is the sort of gobbledygook that Mister D and Chris and a few others revel in. I wonder if one of them wrote that article?


Yes, I revel in your dysfunctional logic.

Mark III
08-07-2017, 04:11 PM
You're stupid, Mark. Seriously.


Your vocabulary seems to be shrinking. Are you tongue tied? We established your racism long ago

Mister D
08-07-2017, 04:15 PM
Your vocabulary seems to be shrinking. Are you tongue tied? We established your racism long ago
Someone really needed to tell you that, Mark.

Mister D
08-07-2017, 04:16 PM
Yes, I revel in your dysfunctional logic.
Dysfunctional? Hitler used that word!

Ethereal
08-07-2017, 04:18 PM
Who knows what Clarence Thomas thinks or feels about black people, one can only go by his actions and judicial record. Which was pretty much in lockstep with Scalia or Rehnquist.

So being against affirmative action is like wanting Jews to be exterminated?

Captain Obvious
08-07-2017, 04:20 PM
You're stupid, Mark. Seriously.

He'll never realize it also.

Stupidity is it's own self survival mechanism.

Chris
08-07-2017, 04:20 PM
Dysfunctional? Hitler used that word!

:laughing7:


https://s2.postimg.org/hje63osmh/giphy_2.gif

Mark III
08-07-2017, 04:21 PM
Someone really needed to tell you that, Mark.

As if you are qualified, lol.

To become capable of projecting a "legitimate" claim to world authority, the Cosmopolitan is constantly challenged to divest himself of unconscious residues of loyalty towards his original race and nation, and to prove himself by sacrificing the interests of less privileged 'national' whites to the resentments of his non-white allies.

https://alternative-right.blogspot.com/2016/12/the-cosmopolitan-and-european.html

Do you still want to claim there is no connection between "cosmopolitan" and white nationalist thinking?

Chris
08-07-2017, 04:22 PM
Your vocabulary seems to be shrinking. Are you tongue tied? We established your racism long ago

You and what other race card players?

Mark III
08-07-2017, 04:22 PM
He'll never realize it also.

Stupidity is it's own self survival mechanism.

I see you finally got that big finger out of your nose. Good job !

Chris
08-07-2017, 04:23 PM
As if you are qualified, lol.

To become capable of projecting a "legitimate" claim to world authority, the Cosmopolitan is constantly challenged to divest himself of unconscious residues of loyalty towards his original race and nation, and to prove himself by sacrificing the interests of less privileged 'national' whites to the resentments of his non-white allies.

https://alternative-right.blogspot.com/2016/12/the-cosmopolitan-and-european.html

Do you still want to claim there is no connection between "cosmopolitan" and white nationalist thinking?



The challenge to guiltily associate Miller with it.

Mister D
08-07-2017, 04:25 PM
As if you are qualified, lol.

To become capable of projecting a "legitimate" claim to world authority, the Cosmopolitan is constantly challenged to divest himself of unconscious residues of loyalty towards his original race and nation, and to prove himself by sacrificing the interests of less privileged 'national' whites to the resentments of his non-white allies.

https://alternative-right.blogspot.com/2016/12/the-cosmopolitan-and-european.html

Do you still want to claim there is no connection between "cosmopolitan" and white nationalist thinking?
Mark, no one denied that "white nationalists" have used the term cosmopolitan. It's your claims about Miller that everyone is laughing at. You don't understand that because you're stupid. This is propaganda designed for idiots like you. Do you seriously believe a neutral observer (i.e. someone who doesn't already have an irrational hatred for Trump) is even reading this garbage let alone being influenced by it?

Mister D
08-07-2017, 04:27 PM
So being against affirmative action is like wanting Jews to be exterminated?
He has turned into a dumber version of del. He doesn't know how to pick his battles.

Mister D
08-07-2017, 04:31 PM
There are two interesting questions about this though.

1. Did the propagandists even know that Miller is Jewish? If they did, they have a great deal of contempt for their readers. If they didn't, lol

2. Why would the "alt-right" use "dog whistles"?

Mark III
08-07-2017, 04:40 PM
There are two interesting questions about this though.

1. Did the propagandists even know that Miller is Jewish? If they did, they have a great deal of contempt for their readers. If they didn't, lol

2. Why would the "alt-right" use "dog whistles"?

I know you are a racist, but I didnt know you were that stupid.

Mister D
08-07-2017, 04:48 PM
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I know you are a racist, but I didnt know you were that stupid.
You have no idea, do you? lol

Chris
08-07-2017, 04:51 PM
Better leave him alone, he might cry.

Private Pickle
08-07-2017, 04:54 PM
Better leave him alone, he might cry.
Quick! Someone get him to a safe space!!!

Safety
08-07-2017, 05:29 PM
So being against affirmative action is like wanting Jews to be exterminated?

I've explained it three times already, you are willfully trying to be obtuse.

Chris
08-07-2017, 05:30 PM
I've explained it three times already, you are willfully trying to be obtuse.

He's being somewhat sarcastic in disagreeing with you. Slow to get that?

Safety
08-07-2017, 05:32 PM
He's being somewhat sarcastic in disagreeing with you. Slow to get that?

Whatever.

Peter1469
08-07-2017, 05:35 PM
nonsense.

The last election was a referendum between nationalism and globalism. Those on the globalist side had always tried to tar nationalism with Nazis and white supremacists. It is the same as Hillary's deplorable comment.


Safety, you know I don't show up here much. This forum is way too ridiculous for daily consumption. I give you props for staying here and tolerating and trying to effect this travesty every day.

Miller is a white nationalist, and so was the use of his dog whistle of cosmopolitan. It doesn't matter if he is Jewish or not. The Nazi reference indicates the appeal to those who are white nationalists and admirers of the Nazis. It does not necessarily reflect on Miller's background. As you say, he is the conduit.

Next we will hear from these morons that there is no connection between Nazi references and racism in America.

They will do what they want, intelligent people know what sort of farce takes place on these pages.

resister
08-07-2017, 10:34 PM
You write the book on babbling, so your expertise at it must be respected.
"wrote" and "is"