The Alt Right Nazi's Are Getting Ready in Boston

[Agent Zero]

They've got an application pending for a "rally" this weekend. I wonder if Mr Trump will be speaking?

Meanwhile, preparations have begun.

http://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/Teen-Arraignment-After-Vandalism-of-Holocaust-Memorial-440507463.html?_osource=nav:%20watch%20livestream% 20hover


City and community leaders are speaking out after the New England Holocaust Memorial in Boston was vandalized for the second time this summer."The wounds from the last time this memorial was broken just six weeks ago are still very fresh," Mayor Marty Walsh said Tuesday afternoon while standing outside of the memorial with other Boston and faith leaders. "We don't know exactly what the motives are, but we are worrisome that this is a resurgence of hatred that we're seeing today in this country."
A 17-year-old Malden boy was arrested Monday night after he was seen throwing a rock that shattered one of the memorial's glass panels. He was detained by two bystanders - an off-duty Drug Enforcement Administration agent and an off-duty Boston firefighter - until police arrived.
The teen appeared in juvenile court Tuesday and was charged with willful and malicious destruction of property and causing injury to a church, synagogue or memorial. He was released on his own recognizance with orders to stay away from the memorial and comply with mental health guidance.

[resister]

I'm sure these little thugs will be there!19415

[Common Sense]

Hopefully the police will handle it better.

[Private Pickle]

They've got an application pending for a "rally" this weekend. I wonder if Mr Trump will be speaking?

Meanwhile, preparations have begun.

http://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/Teen-Arraignment-After-Vandalism-of-Holocaust-Memorial-440507463.html?_osource=nav: watch livestream hover

Still trying to tie in Trump I see. I mean sure...that's really all you got...

[Private Pickle]

Hopefully the police will handle it better.
Given the circumstances and lack of intelligence provided to the police I say they handled it as best they could. Blame the Mayor and Governor both of which are fully responsible for the shit show that took place.

[Captain Obvious]

Given the circumstances and lack of intelligence provided to the police I say they handled it as best they could. Blame the Mayor and Governor both of which are fully responsible for the shit show that took place.

A good sign that there will be trouble is when the alt left fascists show up in ten times greater numbers with weapons.

[resister]

Still trying to tie in Trump I see. I mean sure...that's really all you got...
He is a strong contender for worst case of TDS on tpf.

[Bethere]

A good sign that there will be trouble is when the alt left fascists show up in ten times greater numbers with weapons.

Excellent. Except it's impossible to be both left wing and a fascist. They are diametrically opposed propositions.

[Common Sense]

Excellent.

That's not excellent.

[Private Pickle]

A good sign that there will be trouble is when the alt left fascists show up in ten times greater numbers with weapons.
They always do. Yet they are employing violence against Free Speech that is "abhorrent" so it's all good.

[Bethere]

That's not excellent.

It's inevitable.

[Captain Obvious]

That's not excellent.

Agreed

[Private Pickle]

That's not excellent.
"You're side of the aisle"... Amirite?

You know at least Bethere is honest... Many libs on here dodging the question and the condemnation of groups that employ violence like Antifa or BLM are simply covered in vagina and can't bring themselves to be honest about how they feel...

[jimmyz]

Excellent. Except it's impossible to be both left wing and a fascist. They are diametrically opposed propositions.

ANTIFA is the Left's paramilitary arm. Unfortunately they are under-armed and walk instead of driving their cars.

[Bethere]

Agreed

You just want to see us sit back and take it. That's not going to happen on the streets and that's not going to happen at tPF.

[Bethere]

ANTIFA is the Left's paramilitary arm. Unfortunately they are under-armed and walk instead of driving their cars.

It really isn't. Sell your false equivalency to someone else.

[jimmyz]

You just want to see us sit back and take it. That's not going to happen on the streets and that's not going to happen at tPF.

"us" as in you are ANTIFA or you support ANTIFA's tactics? OR you want more violence? You sound like you're calling for blood to run in the streets.

[Ethereal]

You just want to see us sit back and take it. That's not going to happen on the streets and that's not going to happen at tPF.
Stop projecting.

The leftists are the tyrants and the instigators.

One day, your enemies are going to push back and it's not going to be pretty.

Hopefully you're there to experience the backlash directly.

:wink:

[resister]

ANTIFA is the Left's paramilitary arm. Unfortunately they are under-armed and walk instead of driving their cars.That is because their parents wont let them borrow the car:)

[Mister D]

Still trying to tie in Trump I see. I mean sure...that's really all you got...
If that's all they bring to 2020...lol

[Captain Obvious]

Stop projecting.

The leftists are the tyrants and the instigators.

One day, your enemies are going to push back and it's not going to be pretty.

Hopefully you're there to experience the backlash directly.

:wink:

Cowards throw stones then hide

[del]

Cowards throw stones then hide
you misspelled post bullshit on the interwebz

[Captain Obvious]

you misspelled post bullshit on the interwebz

They do that too.

Your input has upgraded a bit since you're time off. I'll be renting your condo in a bit I'm sure.

[del]

They do that too.

Your input has upgraded a bit since you're time off. I'll be renting your condo in a bit I'm sure.


you misspelled i

[Bethere]

"us" as in you are ANTIFA or you support ANTIFA's tactics? OR you want more violence? You sound like you're calling for blood to run in the streets.

I'm calling for self defense.

[resister]

you misspelled i
Damn, those complete sentences are a real challenge, huh?

[del]

Damn, those complete sentences are a real challenge, huh?

speak for yourself, fredo

[Bethere]

speak for yourself, fredo

Fredo had a job.

[resister]

speak for yourself, fredo
lol ^ Still cant manage a complete sentence!

[Grokmaster]

They've got an application pending for a "rally" this weekend. I wonder if Mr Trump will be speaking?

Meanwhile, preparations have begun.

http://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/Teen-Arraignment-After-Vandalism-of-Holocaust-Memorial-440507463.html?_osource=nav: watch livestream hover
IOW, the thugs of Antifa are coming to instigate violence again just like in Charlottesville?

[resister]

Fredo had a job.
Was he also a "professional political consultant, whose clients rarely lose elections" too? lol

[del]

Fredo had a job.
good point

he also got laid

[jimmyz]

I'm calling for self defense.

Your team came at a static permitted rally of idiots. Your team carried clubs and throwing rocks, bottles and who knows what. The racists were on the defensive. Blood is on ANTIFA's leader's hands.

[Bethere]

Your team came at a static permitted rally of idiots. Your team carried clubs and throwing rocks, bottles and who knows what. The racists were on the defensive. Blood is on ANTIFA's leader's hands.

I have no idea what antifa is. There is no organization called antifa. I've been running democratic campaigns for 30 years and I've never met anyone from antifa.

I'm aware, and always have been of antifa in Europe in the 30s. This is the 21st century and it's not Europe.
I realize you seek a counter balance to the kkk. It's a shame that you have to make one up.

On Saturday, the men marching with helmets, body armor, shields, police batons, bear spray, and ar15s seriously telegraphed tbe intent of the right wing.

If you push us we will resist.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DS73ypK3As8I&ved=0ahUKEwimiKzRvNrVAhVB94MKHZG5COsQtwIILzAE&usg=AFQjCNH0REd3VceD7oBTMk4E98BLHm0lHQ

[jimmyz]

I have no idea what antifa is. There is no organization called antifa. I've been running democratic campaigns for 30 years and I've never met anyone from antifa.

I'm aware, and always have been of antifa in Europe in the 30s. This is the 21st century and it's not Europe.
I realize you seek a counter balance to the kkk. It's a shame that you have to make one up.

Yet you use the term "Alt-Right". A made up term to belittle Trump's base. ANTIFA has been identified and has a real history. For the sake of discussion I will continue to call them what they are as you scurry away from your support in what they did and do.

[Captain Obvious]

you misspelled i

Wasn't sure if you were that far into the alphabet

[jimmyz]

On Saturday, the men marching with helmets, body armor, shields, police batons, bear spray, and ar15s seriously telegraphed tbe intent of the right wing.
Yes, armed to the teeth they were. And yet not a single shot from the racists at the rally. Your team was smart in not coming armed with firearms.

[Mister D]

Yet you use the term "Alt-Right". A made up term to belittle Trump's base. ANTIFA has been identified and has a real history. For the sake of discussion I will continue to call them what they are as you scurry away from your support in what they did and do.
There is an "alternative right" but your average American moron has to shoehorn every political phenomenon into one of two categories.

[resister]

I have no idea what antifa is. There is no organization called antifa. I've been running democratic campaigns for 30 years and I've never met anyone from antifa.

I'm aware, and always have been of antifa in Europe in the 30s. This is the 21st century and it's not Europe.
I realize you seek a counter balance to the kkk. It's a shame that you have to make one up.

On Saturday, the men marching with helmets, body armor, shields, police batons, bear spray, and ar15s seriously telegraphed tbe intent of the right wing.

If you push us we will resist.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DS73ypK3As8I&ved=0ahUKEwimiKzRvNrVAhVB94MKHZG5COsQtwIILzAE&usg=AFQjCNH0REd3VceD7oBTMk4E98BLHm0lHQ19418Wonder who these guys are? A figment of our imagination?

[del]

19418Wonder who these guys are? A figment of our imagination?

oh, a picture with words on it

i'm convinced

[Bethere]

Yet you use the term "Alt-Right". A made up term to belittle Trump's base. ANTIFA has been identified and has a real history. For the sake of discussion I will continue to call them what they are as you scurry away from your support in what they did and do.

Alt right is a term made up by Steve Bannon of breitbart who is currently the senior advisor to the president of the United States.

Don't blame it on me.

Thanks.

[Cthulhu]

You just want to see us sit back and take it. That's not going to happen on the streets and that's not going to happen at tPF.Rebel without a clue.

Sent from my evil cell phone.

[Bethere]

Wasn't sure if you were that far into the alphabet

Your sentence fragment has no subject.

[Bethere]

Rebel without a clue.

Sent from my evil cell phone.

I'm no rebel. I prefer to use the term to describe pathetic southern white wannabe men. Most right wingers at tPF actually accuse me instead of being pro establishment.

How can I be both? Please elucidate.

[Ethereal]

I've been running democratic campaigns for 30 years...

lol

[Bo-4]

I know Boston ..

They have little patience for goose-stepping morons.

But we'll see how THAT goes - Right?

[Bo-4]

Excellent. Except it's impossible to be both left wing and a fascist. They are diametrically opposed propositions.

Rut Roh - where is our Peter1469?

:rofl:

[Peter1469]

Rut Roh - where is our @Peter1469 (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=10)?

:rofl:

I have started other threads that interest me.

[Bo-4]

speak for yourself, fredo

Don't you be messin' with Fredo now .. mind ya!

:cool2:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/dmeL1XMT8s5VywlUXwq795r1dIl4dWNzjLVJiCDJqFWpzMj5-DYKHa0Trjf6oBC33D4NoCqSv1Lcb352WEO5LHv1rbXO8HTWdek tXXx-asANo7jEoP_H7kzmbZx1d7kIyvPpCcvXY2k07uYmI34ctw=w53 0-h298-p

[Bo-4]

ANTIFA is the Left's paramilitary arm. Unfortunately they are under-armed and walk instead of driving their cars.

LoL - they sound VERY dangerous .. though nonexistent

FAKE NEWS!! :evil:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/14/us/what-is-antifa-trnd/index.html

[resister]

Your sentence fragment has no subject.


LoL - they sound VERY dangerous .. though nonexistent

FAKE NEWS!! :evil:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/14/us/what-is-antifa-trnd/index.html
So who are these guys?19421 Who was the guy FOX news interviewed?

[Dr. Who]

"You're side of the aisle"... Amirite?

You know at least @Bethere (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1988) is honest... Many libs on here dodging the question and the condemnation of groups that employ violence like Antifa or BLM are simply covered in vagina and can't bring themselves to be honest about how they feel...

How special Pickle-your idea of an insult is to describe your enemies as being covered in a female body part and therefore weak. And yet you wonder why I think that the right have no real respect for women.

[resister]

LoL - they sound VERY dangerous .. though nonexistent

FAKE NEWS!! :evil:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/14/us/what-is-antifa-trnd/index.html
Your own link contradicts your claim. lol ;-)

[hanger4]

LoL - they sound VERY dangerous .. though nonexistent

FAKE NEWS!! :evil:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/14/us/what-is-antifa-trnd/index.html

Your link confirms the existence of antifa Bo-4.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_(United_States)

[KathyS]

They've got an application pending for a "rally" this weekend. I wonder if Mr Trump will be speaking?

Meanwhile, preparations have begun.

http://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/Teen-Arraignment-After-Vandalism-of-Holocaust-Memorial-440507463.html?_osource=nav: watch livestream hover

As much as the left hates it, free speech is allowed in this country, no matter how divisive it can be. FWIW, BLM and Antifa are just as contentious yet I don't see anyone getting hives over their inciting the riot on Saturday.

[Bo-4]

Your link confirms the existence of antifa Bo-4.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_(United_States)

Well, then you should be very VERY afraid of this three week old organization!

:rofl:

[Bethere]

A good sign that there will be trouble is when the alt left fascists show up in ten times greater numbers with weapons.

Explain how they can be fascists and anti fascists all at the same time.

[Private Pickle]

A good sign that there will be trouble is when the alt left fascists show up in ten times greater numbers with weapons.

They always do...good thing about that is that only 1 out of maybe 10 actually back up their bravado. Most the others will just hang back with a sign in their hand and hope they can get a little of that "free love" the skanks are handing out on the basis of who they agree with in their political beliefs.

[Private Pickle]

Explain how they can be fascists and anti fascists all at the same time.

You should be doing some deep thinking on that ideal more.... If you're not a part of the solution and all...

[Private Pickle]

Well, then you should be very VERY afraid of this three week old organization!

:rofl:

Your side of the aisle after all...

[Bo-4]

Your side of the aisle after all...

I would probably prefer them to violent goose-stepping Nazis!

[Private Pickle]

How special Pickle-your idea of an insult is to describe your enemies as being covered in a female body part and therefore weak. And yet you wonder why I think that the right have no real respect for women.
Maybe that's because you're stereotyping me as "the right". Typical but you've missed the forest through the trees.

[Private Pickle]

I would probably prefer them to violent goose-stepping Nazis!

Oh we know. In other words you advocate the violence committed in the name of what you consider right. We've seen it before. Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao...all of them said the same things you are saying.

[hanger4]

Well, then you should be very VERY afraid of this three week old organization!

:rofl:

Is that a new leftists talking point that antifa didn't exist until two weeks ago ??

Did you even bother to read the wiki link provided ?? Hell did you even bother to read the CNN link you provided ??

[Mister D]

Is that a new leftists talking point that antifa didn't exist until two weeks ago ??

Did you even bother to read the wiki link provided ?? Hell did you even bother to read the CNN link you provided ??

Typical Bo.

[Dr. Who]

Maybe that's because you're stereotyping me as "the right". Typical but you've missed the forest through the trees.

You may not lean right in some respects but in others you most definitely lean right. Overall, I see you as far more right than left in your opinions.

[KathyS]

So who are these guys?19421 Who was the guy FOX news interviewed?

antifa is a group funded by Soros- http://yournewswire.com/antifa-payment-george-soros/

I'm still digging on who is funding crowdsondemand.com


https://deplorablekel.com/2017/08/13/did-crowds-on-demand-bus-rioters-into-charlottesville-virginia/

Crowds on Demand (https://deplorablekel.com/2017/08/13/former-political-organizer-for-jerry-brown-owns-company-that-hires-people-to-protest/) is a company that hires actors to attend rallies and protests. Crowds on Demand is founded by Adam Swart, a former political organizer for Jerry Brown.

On August 7th Crowds on Demand posted a Craigslist ad (https://charlotte.craigslist.org/tlg/d/actors-and-photographers/6253308843.html) looking for actors and photographers. The ad was posted in Charlotte, NC which is about 4 1/2 hours away from Charlottesville Virginia.
On August 12th riots broke out in Charlottesville Virginia, which resulted in 1 death, 19 injuries.
Many witnesses claim that protesters were bused in. If protesters were bused in, is it really that far fetched that the craigslist ad is connected to the riot?

[Private Pickle]

You may not lean right in some respects but in others you most definitely lean right. Overall, I see you as far more right than left in your opinions.

Good for you...that matters how again?

[jimmyz]

You may not lean right in some respects but in others you most definitely lean right. Overall, I see you as far more right than left in your opinions.

Pigeon-holing a member skews posts I find. It has stung me in the past. Private Pickle is a moderate IIRC. Sorry to butt-in. -Jim

[Cthulhu]

I'm no rebel. I prefer to use the term to describe pathetic southern white wannabe men. Most right wingers at tPF actually accuse me instead of being pro establishment.

How can I be both? Please elucidate.And a rebel without a crew.

Sent from my evil cell phone.

[Agent Zero]

antifa is a group funded by Soros- http://yournewswire.com/antifa-payment-george-soros/

I'm still digging on who is funding crowdsondemand.com


https://deplorablekel.com/2017/08/13/did-crowds-on-demand-bus-rioters-into-charlottesville-virginia/

Crowds on Demand (https://deplorablekel.com/2017/08/13/former-political-organizer-for-jerry-brown-owns-company-that-hires-people-to-protest/) is a company that hires actors to attend rallies and protests. Crowds on Demand is founded by Adam Swart, a former political organizer for Jerry Brown.

On August 7th Crowds on Demand posted a Craigslist ad (https://charlotte.craigslist.org/tlg/d/actors-and-photographers/6253308843.html) looking for actors and photographers. The ad was posted in Charlotte, NC which is about 4 1/2 hours away from Charlottesville Virginia.
On August 12th riots broke out in Charlottesville Virginia, which resulted in 1 death, 19 injuries.
Many witnesses claim that protesters were bused in. If protesters were bused in, is it really that far fetched that the craigslist ad is connected to the riot?


Your news wire is fake news

http://www.factcheck.org/2017/07/websites-post-fake-satirical-stories/

http://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/dont-get-fooled-by-these-fake-news-sites/4/

as as far as your second claim:

http://www.snopes.com/crowds-on-demand/

[Common Sense]

antifa is a group funded by Soros- http://yournewswire.com/antifa-payment-george-soros/

I'm still digging on who is funding crowdsondemand.com


https://deplorablekel.com/2017/08/13/did-crowds-on-demand-bus-rioters-into-charlottesville-virginia/

Crowds on Demand (https://deplorablekel.com/2017/08/13/former-political-organizer-for-jerry-brown-owns-company-that-hires-people-to-protest/) is a company that hires actors to attend rallies and protests. Crowds on Demand is founded by Adam Swart, a former political organizer for Jerry Brown.

On August 7th Crowds on Demand posted a Craigslist ad (https://charlotte.craigslist.org/tlg/d/actors-and-photographers/6253308843.html) looking for actors and photographers. The ad was posted in Charlotte, NC which is about 4 1/2 hours away from Charlottesville Virginia.
On August 12th riots broke out in Charlottesville Virginia, which resulted in 1 death, 19 injuries.
Many witnesses claim that protesters were bused in. If protesters were bused in, is it really that far fetched that the craigslist ad is connected to the riot?

LOL...you should be a little more selective with your sources. Yournewswire is a clickbait fake news site.

[Cthulhu]

LOL...you should be a little more selective with your sources. Yournewswire is a clickbait fake news site.I'm actually curious.

How do you personal deduce if something is "fake news" or otherwise?

The brand "fake news" is still a relatively recent phenomenon yet people have rapidly adopted it into the common lexicon.

Sent from my evil cell phone.

[Common Sense]

I'm actually curious.

How do you personal deduce if something is "fake news" or otherwise?

The brand "fake news" is still a relatively recent phenomenon yet people have rapidly adopted it into the common lexicon.

Sent from my evil cell phone.

Because they post fake news.


http://realorsatire.com/yournewswire-com/

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/YourNewsWire

http://www.snopes.com/tag/yournewswire-com/

http://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/dont-get-fooled-by-these-fake-news-sites/5/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fake_news_websites

[Captain Obvious]

I'm actually curious.

How do you personal deduce if something is "fake news" or otherwise?

The brand "fake news" is still a relatively recent phenomenon yet people have rapidly adopted it into the common lexicon.

Sent from my evil cell phone.
https://i.imgflip.com/1f5ml3.jpg

[Cthulhu]

Because they post fake news.


http://realorsatire.com/yournewswire-com/

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/YourNewsWire

http://www.snopes.com/tag/yournewswire-com/

http://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/dont-get-fooled-by-these-fake-news-sites/5/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fake_news_websitesPerhaps you misunderstood me.

How do you determine it for yourself?

Do you rely on those you have deemed trustworthy or do you take the time yourself to figure it out with legwork?

Sent from my evil cell phone.

[leekohler2]

Perhaps you misunderstood me.

How do you determine it for yourself?

Do you rely on those you have deemed trustworthy or do you take the time yourself to figure it out with legwork?

Sent from my evil cell phone.

You've got to be kidding with this. You're still making excuses for white supremacists?

[Cthulhu]

https://i.imgflip.com/1f5ml3.jpgKinda what I'm getting at...

It has gotten to the point where you just cannot look at the bulk of media and not do your own fact checking.

Sent from my evil cell phone.

[Cthulhu]

You've got to be kidding with this. You're still making excuses for white supremacists?Perhaps you're new.

Or at least new to me.

Protect your own villagers.

Sent from my evil cell phone.

[Common Sense]

Perhaps you misunderstood me.

How do you determine it for yourself?

Do you rely on those you have deemed trustworthy or do you take the time yourself to figure it out with legwork?

Sent from my evil cell phone.

Research.

[Captain Obvious]

Perhaps you're new.

Or at least new to me.

Protect your own villagers.

Sent from my evil cell phone.

Or, better yet, in my case - move to a village that will also protect you.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/6f/28/e7/6f28e7f126f7986b8c58b88ab85bc8c1--everclear-band-monica-lewinsky.jpg

[Cthulhu]

Research.Okay. Forgive me for what must seem as irritating and patronizing, but I'm sincerely curious here.

What do you consider "research"?

Sent from my evil cell phone.

[Common Sense]

Okay. Forgive me for what must seem as irritating and patronizing, but I'm sincerely curious here.

What do you consider "research"?

Sent from my evil cell phone.

Reading alternate sources of the same story. Reading bios of the authors. Looking into the dependability of sources and their track record. Looking into the background and history of the issue.
I don't just buy a story because I agree with the conclusions.

[Bo-4]

Explain how they can be fascists and anti fascists all at the same time.

That's nothing ..

Spent early this afternoon learning how Nazis and Neo-Nazis had absolutely nothing in common.

I let your bear dance on their fool heads :cool2:

http://thepoliticalforums.com/image.php?u=1988&dateline=1497368110

[KathyS]

Oh we know. In other words you advocate the violence committed in the name of what you consider right. We've seen it before. Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao...all of them said the same things you are saying.

Here's a thread from the horse forum I belong to of which 99.9% are far left liberals- I'm just posting a few of the more "moderate" responses about Saturday:
https://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/forum/off-topic/off-topic-aa/9842502-ok-i-know-ce-is-on-time-out-but/page4

We cannot afford any further tolerance of "Nationalists". The 'movement' deserves no place in civil society. Not even a dark corner. It must be eradicated. Online recruitment and radicalization is real. The FBI must step up efforts to monitor and infiltrate "Nationalist" groups. IL just listed them officially as hate groups--all states need to follow this lead.

There must never be a mob of young males carrying torches and weapons and shouting messages of hate and divisiveness through bullhorns that is not met with fierce, unrelenting resistance from every good person in every single street and neighborhood across America until this filth is run out of town and afraid to show its face again.
Andthis-

We can not let our so called president normalize Nazi rallies. We just can't. If you still think he is fit to lead this country you have aligned yourself with white supremacy.

One more-

In My Opinion, NOT meeting the rise of "Nationalism" with a fast, loud, severe and resounding rejection of everything it represents is a big fat mistake. It's a cancer and you have to throw everything you have at it NOW before it gets a foothold and spreads and eventually takes over.

Problem is, I think it has already gotten a foothold. We freakin warned about this. And here it is.

Nazis need to be met with zero tolerance, swift and sure eradication. We--America--already did this before. But they're back and now they're right here in the homeland.

I do think online recruitment is real, and otherwise normal people can get sucked in to going along with some pretty scary stuff, pretty easily, given a few present factors, readily available online. It's cult recruiting and it's happening. Young men in particular getting sucked into this "Nationalism" and radicalized. Just like ISIS.

Armed men in the streets carrying torches at night and yelling divisive rhetoric through a bullhorn is terrorism, not demonstrating. Not protesting. It's designed to intimidate and inspire terror in civilians. Young men carrying guns and torches with a bullhorn yelling divisive rhetoric in the city streets at night is designed to terrorize and intimidate 'the other'. It should not be protected speech, in my opinion. It is fire in a crowded movie theater. It's a death threat. It's terrorism.


Take note that not a word is said about BLM and antifa. This from the oh so tolerant, live and let live, left. Those organizations showed up in Charlottesville wearing helmets and carrying bats which they used to beat people with. Oh, and no permit to protest either.
In contrast, the KKK was granted a permit and carried assault weapons, yet not a shot was fired.

I abhor everything the KKK stands for, but those members have every right to express their opinion as much as anyone here. If we ever lose this right, America is done.

[Bo-4]

As much as the left hates it, free speech is allowed in this country, no matter how divisive it can be. FWIW, BLM and Antifa are just as contentious yet I don't see anyone getting hives over their inciting the riot on Saturday.

Kinda silly Kathy - There is NOTHING worse than Nazis and Klansmen.

[Chris]

Kinda silly Kathy - There is NOTHING worse than Nazis and Klansmen.

Rapists, child molesters, killers, thieves, drunk driver....

Guess it depends on whether your criteria is harm done or ideology.

[resister]

Kinda silly Kathy - There is NOTHING worse than Nazis and Klansmen.
You have one extreme, then the other. Both are extreme, one hates on race, the other hates on speech, the end result of both? Hate. Both are to be condemned.

[MisterVeritis]

You've got to be kidding with this. You're still making excuses for white supremacists?
Why do you object to white supremacists?

[Chris]

Perhaps you misunderstood me.

How do you determine it for yourself?

Do you rely on those you have deemed trustworthy or do you take the time yourself to figure it out with legwork?

Sent from my evil cell phone.



I think the general rule of thumb for most people is if they suspect the source of anything, they dismiss it. As simple as it's leftwing and I'm right, therefore it's BS. Or it is funded by the government/private industry (take your pick), therefore it's BS. That way the message can be ignored.

[MisterVeritis]

Kinda silly Kathy - There is NOTHING worse than Nazis and Klansmen.
Authoritarian statism includes not just national socialists and Klansmen. It also includes liberals, Progressives, international socialists, crony capitalists and all other thieves of individual liberty. I don't know why you object to nazis and Klansmen. They want what you want, central control, massive government, and groupthink.

[Chris]

Why do you object to white supremacists?

Because no one is superior simply because of race.

[Tahuyaman]

They've got an application pending for a "rally" this weekend. I wonder if Mr Trump will be speaking?

Meanwhile, preparations have begun.

http://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/Teen-Arraignment-After-Vandalism-of-Holocaust-Memorial-440507463.html?_osource=nav: watch livestream hover


Trump has openly condemned the neo-nazi / white supremist element in America. I don't know how you missed that? Is it because he also condemned the far left fringe and you find that unacceptable?

[DGUtley]

If everybody ignored these idiots, they'd get no press. If they got no press, they'd have no impact.

[leekohler2]

If everybody ignored these idiots, they'd get no press. If they got no press, they'd have no impact.

Well, there's that small matter of killing people that gets them press too.

[DGUtley]

Well, there's that small matter of killing people that gets them press too.

Which wouldn't have happened if everybody ignored their little protest, right?

[rcfieldz]

Must see tv.

[leekohler2]

Which wouldn't have happened if everybody ignored their little protest, right?

Not likely, they're very philosophy is violent. Do you not remember what happened in Germany during WW2?

White supremacism and Nazi philosophy is the very definition of evil. It is not to be tolerated in any form. They will always be defeated. If they try their BS again, we will defeat them again.

[rcfieldz]

Not likely, they're very philosophy is violent. Do you not remember what happened in Germany during WW2?

White supremacism and Nazi philosophy is the very definition of evil. It is not to be tolerated in any form. They will always be defeated. If they try their BS again, we will defeat them again.
But you're OK with Black supremacism.

[Bo-4]

Rapists, child molesters, killers, thieves, drunk driver....

Guess it depends on whether your criteria is harm done or ideology.

Ideologically speaking of course - but harm-wise?

This topped a thief or even a rapist.

https://dynamicmedia.zuza.com/zz/m/original_/2/5/251ceced-832f-45f6-86c5-c4ae1a40298b/B823490454Z.1_20170813204214_000_GVI1UDMH5.1_Super _Portrait.jpg

[rcfieldz]

Ideologically speaking of course - but harm-wise?

This topped a thief or even a rapist.

https://dynamicmedia.zuza.com/zz/m/original_/2/5/251ceced-832f-45f6-86c5-c4ae1a40298b/B823490454Z.1_20170813204214_000_GVI1UDMH5.1_Super _Portrait.jpg
Unfortunately there are many events that can be the tipping point for a deranged individual.

[NapRover]

Does the taliban's destruction of historical monuments remind you of anything?
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[Bo-4]

Authoritarian statism includes not just national socialists and Klansmen. It also includes liberals, Progressives, international socialists, crony capitalists and all other thieves of individual liberty. I don't know why you object to nazis and Klansmen. They want what you want, central control, massive government, and groupthink.

WoW MV - This tops even your bolder deflections - Nazis and Klansmen want what lib-ruls want?

Priceless!

[leekohler2]

WoW MV - This tops even your bolder deflections - Nazis and Klansmen want what lib-ruls want?

Priceless!

It's quite the opposite. I am disgusted with many people in this forum. After this incident, many people here have shown their true colors. Remember when they'd get mad if you called them nazis? Now it seems they're proud of it.

[Croft]

You just want to see us sit back and take it. That's not going to happen on the streets and that's not going to happen at tPF.
You haven't had to take a damn thing except having other people hold views you don't like. Hell they're views I don't like when it comes to the lot a couple days ago. But when it comes to violence you have not had to take it. In the election Clinton and Sanders rallies were untouched, Trump supporters were maced going into theirs. Leftists on campus are untouched, right wingers are "protested" physically until silenced. And Antifa run around bashing people non stop.
You haven't had to take shit. One prick panicking because his car got batted and driving into people sucks but it's not a year of systematic violence with the whole msm turning a blind eye while you do it.

[Mister D]

It's quite the opposite. I am disgusted with many people in this forum. After this incident, many people here have shown their true colors. Remember when they'd get mad if you called them nazis? Now it seems they're proud of it. Common Sense

[DGUtley]

Not likely, they're very philosophy is violent. Do you not remember what happened in Germany during WW2? White supremacism and Nazi philosophy is the very definition of evil. It is not to be tolerated in any form. They will always be defeated. If they try their BS again, we will defeat them again.

Well, yes, Nazism is pure evil, imho. I don't know what you mean by "If they try their BS again, we will defeat them again" frankly. You mean if they exercise their constitutionally-guaranteed right of free speech? You'll defeat that right? I'm sorry, this free speech thing can be messy. It is the most despicable of speech that is the most worthy of protection.

[Captain Obvious]

It's quite the opposite. I am disgusted with many people in this forum. After this incident, many people here have shown their true colors. Remember when they'd get mad if you called them nazis? Now it seems they're proud of it.

Remember to bleach your bedsheets once your finished evacuating.

[Chris]

WoW MV - This tops even your bolder deflections - Nazis and Klansmen want what lib-ruls want?

Priceless!

Indeed, they do. A government that centrally plans your life. Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, Stalin, FDR, and others sought that. Hayek and Friedman and others call it socialism.

[leekohler2]

Well, yes, Nazism is pure evil, imho. I don't know what you mean by "If they try their BS again, we will defeat them again" frankly. You mean if they exercise their constitutionally-guaranteed right of free speech? You'll defeat that right? I'm sorry, this free speech thing can be messy. It is the most despicable of speech that is the most worthy of protection.

They can say whatever they want. But now they're acting on it and not one of them was sorry for what happened. They gloated and celebrated.

If they keep it up, we'll have to defeat them. Is something unclear in this statement?

[Bethere]

Well, yes, Nazism is pure evil, imho. I don't know what you mean by "If they try their BS again, we will defeat them again" frankly. You mean if they exercise their constitutionally-guaranteed right of free speech? You'll defeat that right? I'm sorry, this free speech thing can be messy. It is the most despicable of speech that is the most worthy of protection.

I agree, but I have serious issues with their open carry intimidation tactics, the riot gear, the body armor, helmets, and shields. I think that goes waaaay beyond free speech issues. I think their intention was to intimidate more than self-expression.

The free speech of armed out of town extremists does not outweigh the local citizen's pursuit of happiness. We balance the constitutional rights of multiple parties all of the time

That's one reason why we have courts.

[The Xl]

It will likely be a violent clash of militant racists with agenda ridden people blaming one side while making excuses for the other.

[Chris]

Well, yes, Nazism is pure evil, imho. I don't know what you mean by "If they try their BS again, we will defeat them again" frankly. You mean if they exercise their constitutionally-guaranteed right of free speech? You'll defeat that right? I'm sorry, this free speech thing can be messy. It is the most despicable of speech that is the most worthy of protection.

I think quite a few on the left fear a new (neo) Nazi take over. But the American people of today are not the German people back then. Neo-Nazis are a fringe group just like Antifa and are pretty much shunned by everyone. A bigger concern was voiced by Madison a long time ago:

Since the general civilization of mankind, I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments by those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations. On a candid examination of history we shall find that turbulence, violence, and abuse of power by the majority trampling on the rights of the minority, have produced factions and commotions, which in republics, have more frequently than any other cause produced despotism. If we go over the whole history of the ancient and modern republics, we shall find their destruction to have generally resulted from those causes.

—James Madison, Speech in the Virginia Ratifying Convention on Control of the Military, June 16, 1788 in: History of the Virginia Federal Convention of 1788, vol. 1, p. 130 (H.B. Grigsby ed. 1890).

[leekohler2]

I agree, but I have serious issues with their open carry intimidation tactics, the riot gear, the body armor, helmets, and shields. I think that goes waaaay beyond free speech issues. I think their intention was to intimidate more than self-expression.

Yes it was.

[leekohler2]

It will likely be a violent clash of militant racists with agenda ridden people blaming one side while making excuses for the other.

There is no excuse for white supremacists and nazis. None whatsoever.

[Abby08]

It's quite the opposite. I am disgusted with many people in this forum. After this incident, many people here have shown their true colors. Remember when they'd get mad if you called them nazis? Now it seems they're proud of it.

It could, very well be, people aren't proud to be called a nazi, they just figure, hey, if someone on the internet, whom I do not know, who doesn't know me, called me either a nazi or, nazi sympathizer, hell, I'll just have some fun and, indulge him.

[DGUtley]

They can say whatever they want. But now they're acting on it and not one of them was sorry for what happened. They gloated and celebrated. If they keep it up, we'll have to defeat them. Is something unclear in this statement?

There's a lot of lack of clarity in that statement. For one thing -- gloating and celebrating are also protected forms of expression. Please clarify how you intend to defeat the Nazis. I'm very curious.

Me, I'd ignore them and they'll go away. They're pathetic.

[Abby08]

There is no excuse for white supremacists and nazis. None whatsoever.

That's true. There is also no need for BLM and, black panthers......who, despite the argument, are hate groups.

[Chris]

I agree, but I have serious issues with their open carry intimidation tactics, the riot gear, the body armor, helmets, and shields. I think that goes waaaay beyond free speech issues. I think their intention was to intimidate more than self-expression.

That militia squad was neutral and escorted in before any protests. They actually thought the protesters kind of nuts.

[DGUtley]

I think quite a few on the left fear a new (neo) Nazi take over. But the American people of today are not the German people back then. Neo-Nazis are a fringe group just like Antifa and are pretty much shunned by everyone. A bigger concern was voiced by Madison a long time ago:

Since the general civilization of mankind, I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments by those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations. On a candid examination of history we shall find that turbulence, violence, and abuse of power by the majority trampling on the rights of the minority, have produced factions and commotions, which in republics, have more frequently than any other cause produced despotism. If we go over the whole history of the ancient and modern republics, we shall find their destruction to have generally resulted from those causes.

—James Madison, Speech in the Virginia Ratifying Convention on Control of the Military, June 16, 1788 in: History of the Virginia Federal Convention of 1788, vol. 1, p. 130 (H.B. Grigsby ed. 1890).

C'mon, really? A Nazi takeover of this country? That's insane. They've watched too much MSNBC.

[Abby08]

They can say whatever they want. But now they're acting on it and not one of them was sorry for what happened. They gloated and celebrated.

If they keep it up, we'll have to defeat them. Is something unclear in this statement?

You act as though this is totally one sided, it isn't.

[rcfieldz]

It will likely be a violent clash of militant racists with agenda ridden people blaming one side while making excuses for the other.

Maybe we will see burning buildings and looting?

[Croft]

They can say whatever they want. But now they're acting on it and not one of them was sorry for what happened. They gloated and celebrated.

If they keep it up, we'll have to defeat them. Is something unclear in this statement?
Acting on it. Nazis, klan etc have marched for decades with cops walking along side them. No one cared because they're psychos. But no one assaulted and silenced them either because it's... you know, America.
For some reason Antifa didn't get the memo about freedom, not during the election, not concerning speakers on campuses and not even concerning actual kkk. The memo about freedom of speech.

If the Klan ever "act on it" like going around attacking blacks or Jews I'm sure they'll be in jail faster than they can blink. But as long as they continue their constitutional right to demonstrate like they've done for decades then if they are attacked the people actually being the problem will be the attackers. Because they don't understand about free speech!

[Abby08]

That militia squad was neutral and escorted in before any protests. They actually thought the protesters kind of nuts.

Which side was it, again, who had a permit to legally hold their rally?

We may not like certain laws, but, we can't pick and choose who should be able to do what, based on how we feel about the participants.

[Chris]

Which side was it, again, who had a permit to legally hold their rally?

We may not like certain laws, but, we can't pick and choose who should be able to do what, based on how we feel about the participants.

Well, I think the protesters kind of nuts too, though they have every right to voice their opinions and had permission to protest.

[Bo-4]

It's quite the opposite. I am disgusted with many people in this forum. After this incident, many people here have shown their true colors. Remember when they'd get mad if you called them nazis? Now it seems they're proud of it.

We've received quite the education on Naziism and Fascism haven't we?

But the deflection thing is part of their new Pee Wee Herman routine ..

Like Trump said: Alt-Left! :grin:

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/eb/65/bf/eb65bfb42bc933bea68d87bfccdfa1fd--pee-wee-herman-tv-quotes.jpg

[Bo-4]

Indeed, they do. A government that centrally plans your life. Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, Stalin, FDR, and others sought that. Hayek and Friedman and others call it socialism.

Unworthy of comment ^

;-)

[leekohler2]

Acting on it. Nazis, klan etc have marched for decades with cops walking along side them. No one cared because they're psychos. But no one assaulted and silenced them either because it's... you know, America.
For some reason Antifa didn't get the memo about freedom, not during the election, not concerning speakers on campuses and not even concerning actual kkk. The memo about freedom of speech.

If the Klan ever "act on it" like going around attacking blacks or Jews I'm sure they'll be in jail faster than they can blink. But as long as they continue their constitutional right to demonstrate like they've done for decades then if they are attacked the people actually being the problem will be the attackers. Because they don't understand about free speech!

Hey, maybe you missed it, the white supremacists ran a car into a crowd of people and killed someone. That's on them- no one else.

[Agent Zero]

I'm actually curious.

How do you personal deduce if something is "fake news" or otherwise?

The brand "fake news" is still a relatively recent phenomenon yet people have rapidly adopted it into the common lexicon.

Sent from my evil cell phone.
My names not Trump and I'm not a gullible uneducated conservative posting on an Internet forum. I don't personally deduce what is or isn't a fake news site. Read my previous post above. There are legitimate sites that determine what may or may need t be. Not so surprising, most are right wing sites.

[Abby08]

Well, I think the protesters kind of nuts too, though they have every right to voice their opinions and had permission to protest.

Yep.

[leekohler2]

We've received quite the education on Naziism and Fascism haven't we?

But the deflection thing is part of their new Pee Wee Herman routine ..



It's been illuminating and disappointing.

[Private Pickle]

Unworthy of comment ^;-)A common theme amongst leftist when they find themselves confronted by fact.

[Abby08]

Hey, maybe you missed it, the white supremacists ran a car into a crowd of people and killed someone. That's on them- no one else.

No one is disputing that, what had been said, is, neither side acted appropriately.

[Captain Obvious]

It's been illuminating and disappointing.

The farce here is that insecure people like you need to demonize others by falsely projecting nazism onto everything you oppose.

Grow up, you're pathetic.

[Croft]

Hey, maybe you missed it, the white supremacists ran a car into a crowd of people and killed someone. That's on them- no one else.
The white supremacists did that? Funny how that became plural. I thought one did it after his car had been getting hit with a baseball bat. That's one guy who either panicked or got deliberately homicidal. Did 1000 of them run cars into people? Maybe if it had been like the past when these guys did their thing and everyone just ignored them that woman would still be alive. Instead they got pelted them with blood, piss and shit and when they dispersed when the police told them to they got attacked.

Maybe you missed it but violence create mayhem and anything can happen. How about no violence, by anybody. And no one gets killed.

[Private Pickle]

The white supremacists did that? Funny how that became plural. I thought one did it after his car had been getting hit with a baseball bat. That's one guy who either panicked or got deliberately homicidal. Did 1000 of them run cars into people? Maybe if it had been like the past when these guys did their thing and everyone just ignored them that woman would still be alive. Instead they got pelted them with blood, piss and shit and when they dispersed when the police told them to they got attacked. Maybe you missed it but violence create mayhem and anything can happen. How about no violence, by anybody. And no one gets killed.Hell with that!!! They have the moral high ground which justifies their violence!!!

[Croft]

Hell with that!!! They have the moral high ground which justifies their violence!!!
That's right! It's not violence when we do it because we're fighting the fascista. It's stwuggle bruthas!

[DGUtley]

I agree, but I have serious issues with their open carry intimidation tactics, the riot gear, the body armor, helmets, and shields. I think that goes waaaay beyond free speech issues. I think their intention was to intimidate more than self-expression. The free speech of armed out of town extremists does not outweigh the local citizen's pursuit of happiness. We balance the constitutional rights of multiple parties all of the time. That's one reason why we have courts.

I understand your serious issues with the tactics. The tactics, I believe (without research, mind you) are forms of expression and thus protected. Perhaps the more appropriate avenue was to wall them off. Perhaps the local authorities could've denied them a permit and let the courts sort it out. Neither of those avenues were chosen.

[leekohler2]

That's right! It's not violence when we do it because we're fighting the fascista. It's stwuggle bruthas!

One more time for clarity- who was it that killed someone in Charlottesville?

[leekohler2]

I understand your serious issues with the tactics. The tactics, I believe (without research, mind you) are forms of expression and thus protected. Perhaps the more appropriate avenue was to wall them off. Perhaps the local authorities could've denied them a permit and let the courts sort it out. Neither of those avenues were chosen.

They most certainly will be in the future.

[leekohler2]

The white supremacists did that? Funny how that became plural. I thought one did it after his car had been getting hit with a baseball bat. That's one guy who either panicked or got deliberately homicidal. Did 1000 of them run cars into people? Maybe if it had been like the past when these guys did their thing and everyone just ignored them that woman would still be alive. Instead they got pelted them with blood, piss and $#@! and when they dispersed when the police told them to they got attacked.

Maybe you missed it but violence create mayhem and anything can happen. How about no violence, by anybody. And no one gets killed.

Tell me how many of them were upset by that murder? How many of them expressed sympathy for the victim or her family?

[Abby08]

One more time for clarity- who was it that killed someone in Charlottesville?

WE KNOW AND HAVE SAID SO, MANY TIMES!!!!!

Did you hear it this time!!??

[Abby08]

Tell me how many of them were upset by that murder?

How are we supposed to know how many were upset by it, we're not clairvoyant.

[Croft]

One more time for clarity- who was it that killed someone in Charlottesville?
A kkk prick as you know. One more time. Who has brought the curse of political violence to the US? And why hasn't every politician in the country been condemning them since they started?

[leekohler2]

A kkk $#@! as you know. One more time. Who has brought the curse of political violence to the US? And why hasn't every politician in the country been condemning them since they started?

Trump, who has been encouraging it since his campaign. Want quotes?

[DGUtley]

Tell me how many of them were upset by that murder?

I was talking to a few criminal defense lawyers at the courthouse on Monday (I do not do criminal law). They were talking about how they'd defend that kid. Both of them said that they thought that it'd be fairly straightforward: He panicked in an atmosphere of fear, terror, crowd, riot, etc. Murder requires intent. These two lawyers felt that intent would be a hard sell (based on what little we knew).

[Croft]

Tell me how many of them were upset by that murder? How many of them expressed sympathy for the victim or her family?
How on earth do I know? For all you know some of them were shocked. Maybe many think he was nuts for doing it. Or maybe they're all gleeful together. But the violence brought by Antifa created the crazyness where she got killed. How about be a good American and respect free speech and leave them alone. It's worked for decades.

[Croft]

Trump, who has been encouraging it since his campaign. Want quotes?

You'e joking. Trump was reacting, not instigating. The instigation was done by democrats who sent people to start riots at his rallies. Remember the videos showing them talking about it?

[MisterVeritis]

Authoritarian statism includes not just national socialists and Klansmen. It also includes liberals, Progressives, international socialists, crony capitalists and all other thieves of individual liberty. I don't know why you object to nazis and Klansmen. They want what you want, central control, massive government, and groupthink.

WoW MV - This tops even your bolder deflections - Nazis and Klansmen want what lib-ruls want?
Priceless!
Are you claiming you want less government control over every facet of our lives?

Be honest. If you can.

[MisterVeritis]

Authoritarian statism includes not just national socialists and Klansmen. It also includes liberals, Progressives, international socialists, crony capitalists and all other thieves of individual liberty. I don't know why you object to nazis and Klansmen. They want what you want, central control, massive government, and groupthink.

It's quite the opposite. I am disgusted with many people in this forum. After this incident, many people here have shown their true colors. Remember when they'd get mad if you called them nazis? Now it seems they're proud of it.
Can you point out the messages you have left demanding the Federal government stay within the Constitution's boundaries? Can you point out where you want less government intrusion, less interference, and lower taxes?

You and the Nazis want the same things. More government. More centralized control. Less freedom. You are on the same side.

Isn't you primary concern that the Nazi's want to influence the same pool of people you do?

[Abby08]

You'e joking. Trump was reacting, not instigating. The instigation was done by democrats who sent people to start riots at his rallies. Remember the videos showing them talking about it?

Hillary's campaign workers admitting Hillary told them to, "go disrupt Trump's rallies?"

Most people need no more evidence, than that.

[Grokmaster]

They've got an application pending for a "rally" this weekend. I wonder if Mr Trump will be speaking?

Meanwhile, preparations have begun.

http://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/Teen-Arraignment-After-Vandalism-of-Holocaust-Memorial-440507463.html?_osource=nav: watch livestream hover


The teen has nothing to do with the rally. Makeup some more lies=Standard Left Procedure, like the ongoing lies that there was n anti-white racism expressed in Charlottesville, by the left's beloved thugs...

[MisterVeritis]

There is no excuse for white supremacists and nazis. None whatsoever.
What is it about white supremacy that you dislike Leekohler?

[Grokmaster]

Excellent. Except it's impossible to be both left wing and a fascist. They are diametrically opposed propositions.
Wrong. Fascism is another form of STATEISM, which is ALL LEFTIST. Right wing= less powerful, smaller government, the OPPOSITE of fascism.
And don't even try to pretend that the idiot , communist Dr.Lawrence Britt, gets to redefine fascism to suit his leftist agenda. STALIN was the first person with the GALL to pretend that fascism WAS NOT LEFT WING. Before then, no one even disputed it.

[MisterVeritis]

Hey, maybe you missed it, the white supremacists ran a car into a crowd of people and killed someone. That's on them- no one else.
Just how many people do you believe were in the car?

What is it you dislike about white supremacy?

[leekohler2]

How on earth do I know? For all you know some of them were shocked. Maybe many think he was nuts for doing it. Or maybe they're all gleeful together. But the violence brought by Antifa created the crazyness where she got killed. How about be a good American and respect free speech and leave them alone. It's worked for decades.
Find me one of them who expressed any sympathy for the victim or her family. Find one.


You'e joking. Trump was reacting, not instigating. The instigation was done by democrats who sent people to start riots at his rallies. Remember the videos showing them talking about it?

Uh huh. Sure:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/back-trump-comments-perceived-encouraging-violence/story?id=48415766

[Abby08]

Don't you think, every race has a right to be proud of who they are? Except, try having a ceremony to only honor white people, try having a whole month to celebrate 'white history month.' How about, a 'white entertainment channel' (like, BET).

Why can black people celebrate who they are, but, the same thing, done in reverse, would be considered racist?

[Abby08]

Find me one of them who expressed any sympathy for the victim or her family. Find one.



Uh huh. Sure:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/back-trump-comments-perceived-encouraging-violence/story?id=48415766

I, for one, can't control how others react or, don't react.

[Croft]

Hillary's campaign workers admitting Hillary told them to, "go disrupt Trump's rallies?"

Most people need no more evidence, than that.
That was it. You'd think someone would have gone to jail over that, but nope.

[Bo-4]

Don't you think, every race has a right to be proud of who they are? Except, try having a ceremony to only honor white people, try having a whole month to celebrate 'white history month.' How about, a 'white entertainment channel' (like, BET).

Why can black people celebrate who they are, but, the same thing, done in reverse, would be considered racist?

We have a white entertainment channel - It's called Fox :D

[Grokmaster]

We have a white entertainment channel - It's called Fox :D

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[resister]

Ideologically speaking of course - but harm-wise?

This topped a thief or even a rapist.

https://dynamicmedia.zuza.com/zz/m/original_/2/5/251ceced-832f-45f6-86c5-c4ae1a40298b/B823490454Z.1_20170813204214_000_GVI1UDMH5.1_Super _Portrait.jpg
Took a white guy to get a liberal to say that, did I miss a similar condemnation about Islamic vehicular assault and homicide? Mostly we just hear those incidents, minimized.

[McCool]

They've got an application pending for a "rally" this weekend. I wonder if Mr Trump will be speaking?

Meanwhile, preparations have begun.

http://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/Teen-Arraignment-After-Vandalism-of-Holocaust-Memorial-440507463.html?_osource=nav: watch livestream hover Do you think President Trump will attend? If you had to put money on it, how much would you bet?

[Cthulhu]

I think the general rule of thumb for most people is if they suspect the source of anything, they dismiss it. As simple as it's leftwing and I'm right, therefore it's BS. Or it is funded by the government/private industry (take your pick), therefore it's BS. That way the message can be ignored.Several replies indicate this is the case in many instances. On both sides of the aisle.

Sent from my evil cell phone.

[Cthulhu]

My names not Trump and I'm not a gullible uneducated conservative posting on an Internet forum. I don't personally deduce what is or isn't a fake news site. Read my previous post above. There are legitimate sites that determine what may or may need t be. Not so surprising, most are right wing sites.Partisan faggotry aside...

How do you determine which sites are legitimate or not.

Seems like you're taking a great deal of information on pure trust and faith. Seems kinda risky in my eyes.

Sent from my evil cell phone.

[Bethere]

I understand your serious issues with the tactics. The tactics, I believe (without research, mind you) are forms of expression and thus protected. Perhaps the more appropriate avenue was to wall them off. Perhaps the local authorities could've denied them a permit and let the courts sort it out. Neither of those avenues were chosen.

It's been a long time since I've read nazi v skokie. Were there open carry issues in the case?

I don't question the constitutionality of open carry, I don't pretend that my awesome opinion is more important than jurisprudence as others love to do.

But I do think that there is lots of wiggle room to fine tune open carry vis a vis property rights and happiness issues. I recognize open carry as largely settled law.

[Cletus]

Kinda silly Kathy - There is NOTHING worse than Nazis and Klansmen.

There is you.

[Bethere]

We've received quite the education on Naziism and Fascism haven't we?

But the deflection thing is part of their new Pee Wee Herman routine ..

Like Trump said: Alt-Left! :grin:

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/eb/65/bf/eb65bfb42bc933bea68d87bfccdfa1fd--pee-wee-herman-tv-quotes.jpg

Alt-Ctrl-Delete.

[Bo-4]

A common theme amongst leftist when they find themselves confronted by fact.

Nah Pickles - I've been listening to this nonsense from Chris and Pete for years .. they think Hitler and Fascism are owned by lefties.

Can't help at this point

[Peter1469]

Nah Pickles - I've been listening to this nonsense from Chris and Pete for years .. they think Hitler and Fascism are owned by lefties.

Can't help at this point

Nazis don't support limited government....

[MisterVeritis]

Nah Pickles - I've been listening to this nonsense from Chris and Pete for years .. they think Hitler and Fascism are owned by lefties.

Can't help at this point
They believed the things you believe.

[resister]

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[Bethere]

Nazis don't support limited government....

Fascism has nothing to do with governmental size.