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Kalkin
08-17-2017, 10:35 AM
Why do the antifa members hide their faces?

Kalkin
08-17-2017, 11:03 AM
27 views and not a single reply. Interesting.

resister
08-17-2017, 11:05 AM
Because they are trying to evade prosecution for their violent crimes and to attempt to intimidate.

Also, to cover their faces and hide that they are not old enough to grow a beard.

Cletus
08-17-2017, 11:06 AM
They do it because they are cowards and because they have every intention of causing violence and breaking the law.

Kalkin
08-17-2017, 11:15 AM
52 views and not a single lefty has the nuts to respond. Expect attacks on the messenger and diversions, if anything.

Kalkin
08-17-2017, 11:50 AM
66 views, still no lefties with any answers.

Common Sense
08-17-2017, 11:52 AM
I don't support Antifa. They obviously hide their faces to avoid things like arrest or getting fired from their jobs.

Kalkin
08-17-2017, 11:53 AM
I don't support Antifa. They obviously hide their faces to avoid things like arrest or getting fired from their jobs.

And why would they be arrested or fired?

Peter1469
08-17-2017, 11:57 AM
Are these the same clowns that protest at the global economic meetings?

Kalkin
08-17-2017, 12:03 PM
I don't support Antifa. They obviously hide their faces to avoid things like arrest or getting fired from their jobs.

Btw, congrats on being the sole lefty here who has the stones to reply.

Kalkin
08-17-2017, 02:02 PM
90 views and one liberal response.

Croft
08-17-2017, 02:07 PM
Are these the same clowns that protest at the global economic meetings?
Some probably. But I'd guess most are just the Hepatitis B brigade who signed up when the payments started.

resister
08-17-2017, 02:32 PM
19469

ripmeister
08-17-2017, 03:51 PM
Pretty simple really. Anonymity so they don't have to face the repercussions of their actions. I don't know many people who would support that.

Kalkin
08-17-2017, 04:27 PM
121 views, one liberal response.

Bethere
08-17-2017, 04:40 PM
121 views, one liberal response.

Troll thread.

resister
08-17-2017, 04:42 PM
Troll thread.
Troll poster^

Kalkin
08-17-2017, 04:46 PM
Troll thread.

Why do antifa members hide their faces?

Kalkin
08-17-2017, 06:36 PM
144 views, one lefty response, one lefty troll.

ripmeister
08-17-2017, 08:52 PM
144 views, one lefty response, one lefty troll.
I thought I made it two responses. Give credit where credit is due. :grin:

Adelaide
08-17-2017, 09:27 PM
Why do the antifa members hide their faces?

Why do the KKK (usually) wear hoods?

Apparently I'm not a liberal, but I have no use for either group. My response to white supremacy, which I have had to deal with in real life, is to not listen or give it the time of day - basically, dismiss it. If someone wants to make an ass of themselves with white supremacist statements... I am not going to change their opinions, most people agree it is wrong unless they are themselves a white supremacist, and I do not believe in violence even if it's been tempting to hit my brother or his friends on occasion.

Kalkin
08-17-2017, 09:59 PM
Why do the KKK (usually) wear hoods?

Because they are groupthink cowards engaging in despicable and often illegal behavior. Just like antifa.

Adelaide
08-17-2017, 10:01 PM
Because they are groupthink cowards engaging in despicable and often illegal behavior. Just like antifa.

So why ask?

I don't think anyone is going to post suggesting they think they're going skiing or something. There is only one real reason to cover your face in those situations.

Kalkin
08-17-2017, 10:02 PM
I thought I made it two responses. Give credit where credit is due. :grin:

Are you a lefty? You seem more logical than those clowns, tbh.

Kalkin
08-17-2017, 10:04 PM
So why ask?
I'd think you'd know me well enough to know it wasn't to get an answer so much as to see who avoided the uncomfortable question. So far my experiment is progressing exactly as planned.

resister
08-17-2017, 10:08 PM
So why ask?

I don't think anyone is going to post suggesting they think they're going skiing or something. There is only one real reason to cover your face in those situations.I cover my face about 3 days a year in Fl. When I ride a bike at frigid temps below 45. lol

Adelaide
08-17-2017, 10:08 PM
I'd think you'd know me well enough to know it wasn't to get an answer so much as to see who avoided the uncomfortable question. So far my experiment is progressing exactly as planned.

I don't often venture into the US politics section because the more active threads are in Latest Happenings and I care more about current events, which usually includes US politics.

Just something to consider.

jimmyz
08-17-2017, 10:14 PM
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Kalkin
08-17-2017, 10:14 PM
I don't often venture into the US politics section because the more active threads are in Latest Happenings and I care more about current events, which usually includes US politics.

Just something to consider.

I just hit the "new posts" button and go where the action is. It's always a pleasure to interact with you, though. I knew you'd shift to the right as you aged. You're too intelligent not to.
It doesn't mean you're an A-hole, uncaring, or a Nazi, just that you accept the reality of the world. ;)

Adelaide
08-17-2017, 10:28 PM
I just hit the "new posts" button and go where the action is. It's always a pleasure to interact with you, though. I knew you'd shift to the right as you aged. You're too intelligent not to.
It doesn't mean you're an A-hole, uncaring, or a Nazi, just that you accept the reality of the world. ;)

I have not really shifted - I have learned more about US law, including and specifically the Constitution. I think I have more respect for it, and as a Canadian, I was from the outside looking in. I have a different perspective being "in". I still believe in a lot of socialist ideas, but maybe not in the context of the United States, or to a lesser degree.

If you take healthcare as an example, I realize that states have rights and that the US is not supposed to have a centralized government. Considering those things, I say that each state should consider whether they want a single-payer system and how they could go about it or what might prevent it from being successful at that level. With firearms, I still support most regulations in place currently but not suggested regulations in most cases that I think would take it too far (and I am an NRA member). I don't support illegal immigration-related issues because I am a legal immigrant and I know that the process I have to go through is more difficult because of illegal immigrants... but I also sympathize with them because I am capable of realizing they are often fleeing horrible conditions or trying to join their families or any number of reasons. On abortion, I believe the government should not be involved and it should be left to a woman and her doctor. Still against capital punishment. Still for same-sex rights.

And so on. I might be some leftist version of libertarian, like Chomsky, but not a conservative. While I appreciate the Constitution, I still think it is questionable to apply a document written so long ago literally to current issues. I believe that it has to be interpreted to some degree for relevance. I would like to see some major reforms within the judicial system because I believe they have a lot of power on constitutional issues.

resister
08-17-2017, 10:34 PM
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Cheers:) whatchya tipping?

Adelaide
08-17-2017, 10:40 PM
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PUI is generally a bad idea. :)

Kalkin
08-17-2017, 10:42 PM
I have not really shifted - I have learned more about US law, including and specifically the Constitution. I think I have more respect for it, and as a Canadian, I was from the outside looking in. I have a different perspective being "in". I still believe in a lot of socialist ideas, but maybe not in the context of the United States, or to a lesser degree.
That's progress.

If you take healthcare as an example, I realize that states have rights and that the US is not supposed to have a centralized government. Considering those things, I say that each state should consider whether they want a single-payer system and how they could go about it or what might prevent it from being successful at that level.
Agreed. Of course, I would oppose it in whatever state I live in. You might support it. That's the way our country was set up. The 10th Amendment covers it pretty well.

With firearms, I still support most regulations in place currently but not suggested regulations in most cases that I think would take it too far (and I am an NRA member).
An articulate and reasonable position. Congrats on being NRA, btw. Good organization.

I don't support illegal immigration-related issues because I am a legal immigrant and I know that the process I have to go through is more difficult because of illegal immigrants... but I also sympathize with them because I am capable of realizing they are often fleeing horrible conditions or trying to join their families or any number of reasons.
I feel bad for some of them, too, but hardship is no excuse for breaking the law. Get in line like everyone else.


On abortion, I believe the government should not be involved and it should be left to a woman and her doctor.
Agreed. You want one? You pay for it, both financially and with a lifetime of guilt. I know a number of women who had abortions when young and only the most calloused and emotionally damaged refuse to admit the regret.


Still against capital punishment.
If you rape and kill children, you should be put to death. Disagree?


Still for same-sex rights.
I'm for equal rights for all.



And so on. I might be some leftist version of libertarian, like Chomsky, but not a conservative. While I appreciate the Constitution, I still think it is questionable to apply a document written so long ago literally to current issues. I believe that it has to be interpreted to some degree for relevance. I would like to see some major reforms within the judicial system because I believe they have a lot of power on constitutional issues.
The fundamental principals of our Constitution are timeless. It's like the Ten Commandments.

Adelaide
08-17-2017, 10:54 PM
That's progress.

Agreed. Of course, I would oppose it in whatever state I live in. You might support it. That's the way our country was set up. The 10th Amendment covers it pretty well.

An articulate and reasonable position. Congrats on being NRA, btw. Good organization.

I feel bad for some of them, too, but hardship is no excuse for breaking the law. Get in line like everyone else.

Agreed. You want one? You pay for it, both financially and with a lifetime of guilt. I know a number of women who had abortions when young and only the most calloused and emotionally damaged refuse to admit the regret.

If you rape and kill children, you should be put to death. Disagree?

I'm for equal rights for all.

The fundamental principals of our Constitution are timeless. It's like the Ten Commandments.

I disagree with the state putting anyone to death. Too often it is inhumane, and it is too often if even one is innocent. If you could guarentee a painless death (impossible) and guarentee guilt (also impossible) I would probably still be opposed to it, but on a moral basis rather than a rational one.

I do support certain economic policies that might be considered more liberal than average. I believe in regulation in that regard. I supported Glass-Steagall, for example. But then, I support lowering the corporate tax rate to 15% - the same as Canada. The fact it has been at 35% is mind boggling.

In terms of government, I think it is too inefficient. It has nothing to do with size, although it is probably too large. But it is the blatant inefficiency at places like the FDA, IRS, and similar agencies that drives me a bit bonkers. Americans are not getting what they're paying for, and they are paying a lot. Same thing with education. It could be done better for less money if there were accountability.

Kalkin
08-17-2017, 10:56 PM
I disagree with the state putting anyone to death. Too often it is inhumane, and it is too often if even one is innocent. If you could guarentee a painless death (impossible) and guarentee guilt (also impossible) I would probably still be opposed to it, but on a moral basis rather than a rational one.

I do support certain economic policies that might be considered more liberal than average. I believe in regulation in that regard. I supported Glass-Steagall, for example. But then, I support lowering the corporate tax rate to 15% - the same as Canada. The fact it has been at 35% is mind boggling.

In terms of government, I think it is too inefficient. It has nothing to do with size, although it is probably too large. But it is the blatant inefficiency at places like the FDA, IRS, and similar agencies that drives me a bit bonkers. Americans are not getting what they're paying for, and they are paying a lot. Same thing with education. It could be done better for less money if there were accountability.

Stop. I'm starting to like you.... ;)

pragmatic
08-17-2017, 11:11 PM
Stop. I'm starting to like you.... ;)


(she's pretty lovable....)

Kalkin
08-17-2017, 11:17 PM
(she's pretty lovable....)
Speaking as a lawyer or a human being? ;)

ripmeister
08-18-2017, 12:10 AM
Are you a lefty? You seem more logical than those clowns, tbh.

Actually I'm ambidextrous. I bowl and play golf right handed, tennis and softball left handed.:grin:

Kalkin
08-18-2017, 12:13 AM
Actually I'm ambidextrous. I bowl and play golf right handed, tennis and softball left handed.:grin:

Middle of the road often gets run over. Best to keep you protests on the sidewalk.