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IMPress Polly
08-28-2017, 02:30 PM
According to our latest polling data on these subjects, 40% of Americans now favor impeaching President Trump (up 10 percentage points from February) (http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/346921-poll-support-for-trump-impeachment-grows-to-40-percent), while 35% approve of the job he is doing as president (http://www.pollingreport.com/djt_job1.htm).

I just have to point that out because I'm tiring of the "we are SO in touch with everyday Americans and you SJW progressives just don't get them!" arrogance we consistently see not just from our forum rightists, but also from Trump supporters in general. President Trump is NOT popular! That's not just true nationwide either. He's now also polling below 40% specifically in those industrial Midwestern states that famously turned the electoral college in his direction and gave him his surprise victory: Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin (https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/08/21/trumps-approval-rating-stands-below-40-percent-in-three-key-midwest-states/23154913/). So yeah, just keep rehearsing November 8th. That ought to guarantee Trump and the Republicans future electoral victories.

Private Pickle
08-28-2017, 02:31 PM
Impeach him for what? Being unpopular?

Doesn't work that way...

Adelaide
08-28-2017, 02:32 PM
It would be in the best interest of the left and of the Democrats if Trump were not impeached. It might help in 2018 and 2020, but mostly, it would keep Pence away from executive power. He would be more supported by Republicans in Congress, and his agenda would likely be more organized and as terrifying to liberals as what Trump is doing now.

Mister D
08-28-2017, 02:32 PM
He wasn't "popular" according to the polls on November 7th 2016 but...well you know. You've been crying ever since.

resister
08-28-2017, 02:33 PM
To bad peoples feelings are not enough to overthrow a lawful election. Americans should support the POTUS.

We already had the election, people (citizens) don't get to vote to impeach.

resister
08-28-2017, 02:35 PM
It would be in the best interest of the left and of the Democrats if Trump were not impeached. It might help in 2018 and 2020, but mostly, it would keep Pence away from executive power. He would be more supported by Republicans in Congress, and his agenda would likely be more organized and as terrifying to liberals as what Trump is doing now.
The impeach crowd cant see beyond their Trump hate, tunnel vision.

Captain Obvious
08-28-2017, 02:37 PM
He wasn't "popular" according to the polls on November 7th 2016 but...well you know. You've been crying ever since.

Boom!

Trump wasn't elected for his popularity, a concept snowflakes aren't capable of grasping.

texan
08-28-2017, 02:50 PM
I love these brainless posts.......WTF are they polling? Hey do you want the president impeached....uhhh yes. Whatever.

Need a reason to impeach and its clear it isn't Russia. After all the crap you drove up negatives with, if this has no merit I hope they vote every dem out of office including the hack of the year Maxine Waters.

Popularity doesn't mean $hit!

Tahuyaman
08-28-2017, 03:36 PM
I could conduct a poll in a region where 100% would favor impeaching Trump.


This would be more credible if they hadn't been calling for impeachment five minutes after the election.

The Xl
08-28-2017, 03:48 PM
Meh, polls.

resister
08-28-2017, 03:52 PM
Did they poll Maxine *I'm-peach* Waters?

del
08-28-2017, 05:16 PM
Boom!

Trump wasn't elected for his popularity, a concept snowflakes aren't capable of grasping.

he wasn't elected for his ability either.

he and his supporters are boobs

Captain Obvious
08-28-2017, 06:15 PM
he wasn't elected for his ability either.

he and his supporters are boobs

You people are the reason we have Trump.

Boob would be two rungs up for yinz.

IMPress Polly
08-28-2017, 06:42 PM
Adelaide wrote:
It would be in the best interest of the left and of the Democrats if Trump were not impeached. It might help in 2018 and 2020, but mostly, it would keep Pence away from executive power. He would be more supported by Republicans in Congress, and his agenda would likely be more organized and as terrifying to liberals as what Trump is doing now.

Well a lot of the people who support Trump's impeachment, it's worth saying, carry around "The Trump/Pence Regime Must Go!" signs that imply the complicity of the whole administration and the need to call an early election. But in all seriousness, that's just motivational rhetoric for the resistance. Donald Trump could chop his kid's heads off and mount them on the White House gate and Paul Ryan would still be like *wags finger* "Now now now, don't be naughty!" and you know it. :tongue: My point here hence really was to show just HOW unpopular Trump actually is. Nothing more.

Mister D
08-28-2017, 07:52 PM
Well a lot of the people who support Trump's impeachment, it's worth saying, carry around "The Trump/Pence Regime Must Go!" signs that imply the complicity of the whole administration and the need to call an early election. But in all seriousness, that's just motivational rhetoric for the resistance. Donald Trump could chop his kid's heads off and mount them on the White House gate and Paul Ryan would still be like *wags finger* "Now now now, don't be naughty!" and you know it. :tongue: My point here hence really was to show just HOW unpopular Trump actually is. Nothing more.
You made a point of showing that before he was elected too. You are in desperate need of something more. Hey, maybe another round of "youre all stupid racists" will do the trick? :tongue:

Chris
08-28-2017, 08:24 PM
Meh, polls.

I was going to say.

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You don’t need a weatherman
To know which way the wind blows

Chris
08-28-2017, 08:26 PM
Well a lot of the people who support Trump's impeachment, it's worth saying, carry around "The Trump/Pence Regime Must Go!" signs that imply the complicity of the whole administration and the need to call an early election. But in all seriousness, that's just motivational rhetoric for the resistance. Donald Trump could chop his kid's heads off and mount them on the White House gate and Paul Ryan would still be like *wags finger* "Now now now, don't be naughty!" and you know it. :tongue: My point here hence really was to show just HOW unpopular Trump actually is. Nothing more.


Trump's a twit.

You don't need a bandwagon.

Ethereal
08-28-2017, 08:29 PM
Then go for it. Impeach Trump. Or indict him for "collusion" with the Russians. You guys have been doing nothing but talking for months. When are you going to take some action?

Cletus
08-28-2017, 10:20 PM
Well a lot of the people who support Trump's impeachment, it's worth saying, carry around "The Trump/Pence Regime Must Go!" signs that imply the complicity of the whole administration and the need to call an early election. But in all seriousness, that's just motivational rhetoric for the resistance. Donald Trump could chop his kid's heads off and mount them on the White House gate and Paul Ryan would still be like *wags finger* "Now now now, don't be naughty!" and you know it. :tongue: My point here hence really was to show just HOW unpopular Trump actually is. Nothing more.

Since it is so obvious you have nothing to say, why do you insist on posting?

resister
08-28-2017, 10:22 PM
Since it is so obvious you have nothing to say, why do you insist on posting?
Fan of lead zeppelin "ramble on"

del
08-28-2017, 11:02 PM
You people are the reason we have Trump.

Boob would be two rungs up for yinz.

no, we have trump because the dems ran the bride of frankenstein, and you people ignored 30+ years of trump's history and voted the asshat in.

don't worry

some day you'll have opposable thumbs, too.

Captain Obvious
08-28-2017, 11:10 PM
no, we have trump because the dems ran the bride of frankenstein, and you people ignored 30+ years of trump's history and voted the asshat in.

don't worry

some day you'll have opposable thumbs, too.

First, I voted for the same guy you did. I know that, you know that, suck it up, peach.

Second, Rodham would have otherwise been a shoo-in. She was the poster child for the bedwetting left. Hell, she won the popular vote, big.

After 8 years of Bammy's racialism, middle class rape and devastation of rights and liberties... the math is pretty easy.

I get that you struggle with ABC's, I guess math isn't your strong point either.

Does your neighbors kid tutor basics too?

KathyS
08-29-2017, 12:36 AM
According to our latest polling data on these subjects, 40% of Americans now favor impeaching President Trump (up 10 percentage points from February) (http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/346921-poll-support-for-trump-impeachment-grows-to-40-percent), while 35% approve of the job he is doing as president (http://www.pollingreport.com/djt_job1.htm).

I just have to point that out because I'm tiring of the "we are SO in touch with everyday Americans and you SJW progressives just don't get them!" arrogance we consistently see not just from our forum rightists, but also from Trump supporters in general. President Trump is NOT popular! That's not just true nationwide either. He's now also polling below 40% specifically in those industrial Midwestern states that famously turned the electoral college in his direction and gave him his surprise victory: Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin (https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/08/21/trumps-approval-rating-stands-below-40-percent-in-three-key-midwest-states/23154913/). So yeah, just keep rehearsing November 8th. That ought to guarantee Trump and the Republicans future electoral victories.

Several issues I see with the poll: it was supported by NBC and a majority of those surveyed were democrats.

The survey found that 40 percent of Americans — including nearly three-quarters of Democrats but just seven percent of Republicans — back impeaching the president and removing him from office.

IMPress Polly
08-29-2017, 05:19 AM
Private Pickle wrote:
Impeach him for what?

...There are a lot of answers to that question I could throw at you, ranging from the painfully obvious emoluments clause to the fact that the Muslim ban blatantly violates the First Amendment to the extraordinary violation of the privacy rights of dissenters to this administration (including myself personally!) that forms the administration's demands for the personal data of everyone who used the Dream Host web site to join inauguration protests and the president's little voter suppression commission tasked with discovering exactly who voted against him, but the ultimate potential case for impeachment will come they're saying probably around the end of the year when Robert Mueller is guesstimated to wrap up his investigation into that minor little question of whether Mr. Trump and/or his campaign committed treason as part of their efforts to win last year's election.

Concerning that latter case, while we can't formally confirm its validity yet, I have formed an opinion. I have become a bit of a conspiracy theorist on that matter. Personally, I believe that dossier that surfaced last December is the truth. After all, it is an inescapable reality that Vladimir Putin does have one degree or another of control over the entire global alt-right movement and I have seen no convincing evidence that our current president is an exception to that rule, and the stuff the dossier describes are all things I believe Mr. Trump capable of. More and more of its case seems to be proven true over time. We'll see what the Mueller investigation finds though. But that's what I suspect anyway.

My point here though is that there's definitely a constitutional argument that can be made.

Chris
08-29-2017, 07:27 AM
...There are a lot of answers to that question I could throw at you, ranging from the painfully obvious emoluments clause to the fact that the Muslim ban blatantly violates the First Amendment to the extraordinary violation of the privacy rights of dissenters to this administration (including myself personally!) that forms the administration's demands for the personal data of everyone who used the Dream Host web site to join inauguration protests and the president's little voter suppression commission tasked with discovering exactly who voted against him, but the ultimate potential case for impeachment will come they're saying probably around the end of the year when Robert Mueller is guesstimated to wrap up his investigation into that minor little question of whether Mr. Trump and/or his campaign committed treason as part of their efforts to win last year's election.

Concerning that latter case, while we can't formally confirm its validity yet, I have formed an opinion. I have become a bit of a conspiracy theorist on that matter. Personally, I believe that dossier that surfaced last December is the truth. After all, it is an inescapable reality that Vladimir Putin does have one degree or another of control over the entire global alt-right movement and I have seen no convincing evidence that our current president is an exception to that rule, and the stuff the dossier describes are all things I believe Mr. Trump capable of. More and more of its case seems to be proven true over time. We'll see what the Mueller investigation finds though. But that's what I suspect anyway.

My point here though is that there's definitely a constitutional argument that can be made.


So you got nothing. Up to "Mueller is guesstimated" none are impeachable. Mueller is, as you say, guesstimated. The rest "can't formally confirm its validity yet."

Private Pickle
08-29-2017, 09:31 AM
...There are a lot of answers to that question I could throw at you, ranging from the painfully obvious emoluments clause to the fact that the Muslim ban blatantly violates the First Amendment to the extraordinary violation of the privacy rights of dissenters to this administration (including myself personally!) that forms the administration's demands for the personal data of everyone who used the Dream Host web site to join inauguration protests and the president's little voter suppression commission tasked with discovering exactly who voted against him, but the ultimate potential case for impeachment will come they're saying probably around the end of the year when Robert Mueller is guesstimated to wrap up his investigation into that minor little question of whether Mr. Trump and/or his campaign committed treason as part of their efforts to win last year's election.

Emoluments Clause - You can sue... People are... But impeachment? LOL Doesn't apply. Just because a foreign dignitary books a room in one of Trump's hotels doesn't mean Trump is violating the emolument clause. You know this one is a stretch but you're will to make that stretch because you don't like Trump. Disingenuous to say the least. Before Trump took office , he got rid of his publicly traded and liquid investments. He put his assets into a trust. He resigned from all official positions within his companies. Sorry... This claim is just noise.

The "Muslim Ban" really isn't a ban. You and I both know that. Try and be genuine for a second if you can... Regardless, not an impeachable offense. SCOTUS can overturn but Trump didn't break any laws here.

Were the inauguration protests legal? Were permits issued? Sounds like you broke the law and probably need to account for that. Being investigated for breaking the law isn't a reason to impeach the POTUS. I find it somewhat hilarious that you rail against someone like Snowden for exposing Obama's gross data and intelligence collection on Americans while complaining that you were part of an illegal organizing and are upset that information might be looked into... Land your plane.

As far as Mueller's investigation goes it is completely debatable that it will provide anything of substance. I'm sure you're referring to the hacks. I've asked this question before and have never received a straight answer. Are you more upset at the hacks themselves or the damaging information that was leaked from those hacks? The content of the hacks has been masterfully swept under the rug by the media but the information that came out didn't put the DNC in a good light. In addition, I suggest you do some research on "Treason". We have to be at war for that for one thing... Treason has become a dog whistle for the left but it only makes them look idiotic. In our nation's history there have been some 44 accusations of Treason, many of which were tossed out of court because they were political attacks...not valid in any way shape or form.

Concerning that latter case, while we can't formally confirm its validity yet, I have formed an opinion.

You formed your opinion on emotion... Your side lost. You should seek counseling or maybe hire a professional snuggle person to work through your issues but just because your side lost doesn't justify impeachment.


I have become a bit of a conspiracy theorist on that matter.

Ya think?


Personally, I believe that dossier that surfaced last December is the truth.

Of course you do...it fits your narrative as well as the narrative of the people who hired the guy who put the dossier together.


After all, it is an inescapable reality that Vladimir Putin does have one degree or another of control over the entire global alt-right movement and I have seen no convincing evidence that our current president is an exception to that rule, and the stuff the dossier describes are all things I believe Mr. Trump capable of. More and more of its case seems to be proven true over time. We'll see what the Mueller investigation finds though. But that's what I suspect anyway.

Putin is a distraction. Another dog whistle for the people who are bitter over losing. And control over the alt-right? What are you talking about? And none of his case has been proven... It only "seems" that way to you because you want it to be true.


My point here though is that there's definitely a constitutional argument that can be made.

And you're wrong.

Boris The Animal
08-29-2017, 09:47 AM
See, here's the problem the Left fail to realize. Trump did nothing WHILE IN OFFICE that constitutes "High Crimes and Misdemeanors" which is the standard for Articles of Impeachment. First, an impeachment does not mean removal by any stretch of the imagination. It is simply a true bill of indictment just like one handed down by a Federal or State Grand Jury. A trial held by the Senate determines the voracity and validity of the articles to consider whether to convict and remove, convict and censure, or acquit. Second, and this is the kicker for the Left, if Trump were removed, no way would Hillary succeed him. The line of succession would preclude that, and the playing field is far too deep on the GOP side also. Just because you don't like someone in office, does not give anyone the right to act the way the Left is acting right now. Oh I know there's the old "well you see how Obama was treated" argument and I'll give you that. But Trump was elected in proper and legal fashion through the Electoral College and what the Left (and by extension, establishment RINOs) are doing is treasonous at best.
Which brings me to this point. The EC was established so that major population centers don't get to decide the POTUS each and every time and gives the Heartland a voice.

AeonPax
08-29-2017, 10:02 AM
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Related: Constitutional law experts: Congress could impeach Trump on these 3 charges | Opinion (http://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/2017/08/congress_could_impeach_trump_on_these_3_charges_op inion.html)

del
08-29-2017, 10:08 AM
First, I voted for the same guy you did. I know that, you know that, suck it up, peach.

Second, Rodham would have otherwise been a shoo-in. She was the poster child for the bedwetting left. Hell, she won the popular vote, big.

After 8 years of Bammy's racialism, middle class rape and devastation of rights and liberties... the math is pretty easy.

I get that you struggle with ABC's, I guess math isn't your strong point either.

Does your neighbors kid tutor basics too?

lulz

Chris
08-29-2017, 10:49 AM
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Related: Constitutional law experts: Congress could impeach Trump on these 3 charges | Opinion (http://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/2017/08/congress_could_impeach_trump_on_these_3_charges_op inion.html)


One given is "his failures of moral leadership."

I would love to see liberals arguing morality.

Private Pickle
08-29-2017, 11:29 AM
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Related: Constitutional law experts: Congress could impeach Trump on these 3 charges | Opinion (http://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/2017/08/congress_could_impeach_trump_on_these_3_charges_op inion.html)

Hack Op Ed.

Their 3 reasons:
1) Trump's abuses of power, most obviously exemplified by his conduct with respect to the investigations into his campaign's collusion with Russia (http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2017/07/is_it_treason_all_you_need_to_know_about_trump_and .html), - Not proven. No evidence to support.
2) his failures of moral leadership, and - Whose morals? What failures?
3) his abandonment of the basic duties of his office. - What does that even mean? He is still in office doing all of the basic duties...

AeonPax
08-29-2017, 11:43 AM
One given is "his failures of moral leadership." I would love to see liberals arguing morality.
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What's even more funny, is watching a conservative arguing morality. Be that as it may, the point is, it is subjective and just the opinions of legal scholars. Still, I too would be curious as to how that would play out in a court of law......constitutionally.

Kalkin
08-29-2017, 11:45 AM
According to our latest polling data on these subjects, 40% of Americans now favor impeaching President Trump (up 10 percentage points from February) (http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/346921-poll-support-for-trump-impeachment-grows-to-40-percent), while 35% approve of the job he is doing as president (http://www.pollingreport.com/djt_job1.htm).

I just have to point that out because I'm tiring of the "we are SO in touch with everyday Americans and you SJW progressives just don't get them!" arrogance we consistently see not just from our forum rightists, but also from Trump supporters in general. President Trump is NOT popular! That's not just true nationwide either. He's now also polling below 40% specifically in those industrial Midwestern states that famously turned the electoral college in his direction and gave him his surprise victory: Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin (https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/08/21/trumps-approval-rating-stands-below-40-percent-in-three-key-midwest-states/23154913/). So yeah, just keep rehearsing November 8th. That ought to guarantee Trump and the Republicans future electoral victories.

Stop the whining. Trump isn't getting impeached. Not for being a communist, not for being a nazi, not for being a pvssy-grabber, not for getting two scoops of ice cream. Time to accept reality and move on. The longer your tantrum lasts, the less time you'll have to emotionally prepare yourself for your upcoming electoral losses.

Kalkin
08-29-2017, 11:49 AM
he wasn't elected for his ability either.

he and his supporters are boobs

Take those sour grapes and make yourself a bitter wine to supplement your bitter whining.

Kalkin
08-29-2017, 11:52 AM
n

some day you'll have opposable thumbs, too.

Today we have an opposition composed of dimwits. That'll just have to suffice, I suppose.

Kalkin
08-29-2017, 11:56 AM
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Sit back down.