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Grokmaster
09-02-2017, 11:02 PM
Finally...someone speaking the truth about this domestic terrorist group. The officer that the Left's Darling Thugs are "protesting" shot an illegally armed felon trying to flee with his illegal weapon, so naturally the left is pissed, because only legally armed white people are "a problem" in leftbubble.


Philly Police Union President Calls Black Lives Matter Activists 'A Pack Of Rabid Animals'
The president of a Pennsylvania police union responded to Black Lives Matter activists demanding accountability for the police killing of a black man by calling the group a “pack of rabid animals.”
Philadelphia Fraternal Order of Police President John McNesby made the statement Thursday during a rally held by and in support of police (http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Police-Union-President-Calls-Black-Lives-Matter-Protesters-Outside-Philadelphia-Officers-House-a-Pack-of-Rabid-Animals-Report-442452063.html?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_PHBrand&ncid=edlinkushpmg00000313), according to NBC Philadelphia. The “Back the Blue” rally was in response to a protest the week before by members of Black Lives Matter held outside the house of Officer Ryan Pownall, who fatally shot a David Jones in June.

Pownall, a 12-year veteran, shot Jones in the back as he fled (http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/police-identify-officer-in-fatal-shooting-of-armed-man-20170612.html?ncid=edlinkushpmg00000313) from a traffic stop. Police said Jones was armed with a gun. This marks the second time Pownall has shot a black man in the back as he was fleeing. In 2010, he shot Carnell Williams-Carney who ran from cops while having an illegal gun on him.

At Thursday’s police rally, McNesby called BLM protesters “racist hate groups determined to instigate violence.”

“When you go to work each day, you shouldn’t have to worry that a pack of rabid animals will suddenly show up at your home and openly threaten your family,” McNesby said inside FOP headquarters (http://www.newsworks.org/index.php/homepage-feature/item/106863-after-recent-protest-at-philly-cops-home-hundreds-gather-in-northeast-to-back-the-blue?linktype=hp_impact&ncid=edlinkushpmg00000313), according to NewsWorks. “These are not activists, they are racist hate groups determined to instigate violence.”






https://www.yahoo.com/news/philly-police-union-president-calls-163823054.html

Tahuyaman
09-02-2017, 11:31 PM
He'll be fired next week.

Cthulhu
09-02-2017, 11:43 PM
Shooting people in the back while they are running away?

Umm... Need more info here.

But on its surface it looks really bad.

Sent from my evil cell phone.

Dr. Who
09-02-2017, 11:47 PM
In June of 2017, Jones was stopped for riding a dirt bike unlawfully on city streets. He happened to have a weapon - something that apparently every person in America should have. So Jones dropped his weapon (according to security footage, so this isn't conjecture), took off and was then shot in the back by officer Pownall. If Pownall shot an unarmed man in the back running away, he committed murder. The fact that he shot at someone as a result of illegal dirt bike usage is insane. Was he shot because he had the nerve to possess a weapon, although he never trained it on the officer and in fact threw it away?

In another time and another place, Pownall would have been executed by vigilantes. Instead, people put up posters and protested in front of his home and heaven forbid, began shouting which irritated the neighbors. The officer has yet to be charged.

Details from:

http://www.phillymag.com/news/2017/08/25/protest-home-cop-david-jones/

Hoosier8
09-03-2017, 12:18 AM
BLM along with Antifa are anti-American, anti-police, anti-democracy Marxists. No sympathy here.

Hal Jordan
09-03-2017, 12:52 AM
In June of 2017, Jones was stopped for riding a dirt bike unlawfully on city streets. He happened to have a weapon - something that apparently every person in America should have. So Jones dropped his weapon (according to security footage, so this isn't conjecture), took off and was then shot in the back by officer Pownall. If Pownall shot an unarmed man in the back running away, he committed murder. The fact that he shot at someone as a result of illegal dirt bike usage is insane. Was he shot because he had the nerve to possess a weapon, although he never trained it on the officer and in fact threw it away?

In another time and another place, Pownall would have been executed by vigilantes. Instead, people put up posters and protested in front of his home and heaven forbid, began shouting which irritated the neighbors. The officer has yet to be charged.

Details from:

http://www.phillymag.com/news/2017/08/25/protest-home-cop-david-jones/

To be honest, that other time and place is in comics, other literature, and movies, etc.

If the events are as you describe (I haven't looked into it), then there should be no doubt that he should be charged.

AeonPax
09-03-2017, 01:07 AM
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I wouldn't necessarily refer to them as a "pack."

Dr. Who
09-03-2017, 01:17 AM
To be honest, that other time and place is in comics, other literature, and movies, etc.

If the events are as you describe (I haven't looked into it), then there should be no doubt that he should be charged.

I am just suggesting that if you look historically, people, in general, didn't take injustice lying down unless they were living under autocratic dominance and even then individuals turned up dead because protest was not permitted. Protest is civilized disagreement which is far better than the alternative.

Grokmaster
09-03-2017, 01:36 AM
Shooting people in the back while they are running away?

Umm... Need more info here.

But on its surface it looks really bad.

Sent from my evil cell phone.

Armed felons with their weapons. I can think of no reason to allow them to escape and harm more innocent citizens.

Grokmaster
09-03-2017, 01:42 AM
In June of 2017, Jones was stopped for riding a dirt bike unlawfully on city streets. He happened to have a weapon - something that apparently every person in America should have. So Jones dropped his weapon (according to security footage, so this isn't conjecture), took off and was then shot in the back by officer Pownall. If Pownall shot an unarmed man in the back running away, he committed murder. The fact that he shot at someone as a result of illegal dirt bike usage is insane. Was he shot because he had the nerve to possess a weapon, although he never trained it on the officer and in fact threw it away?

In another time and another place, Pownall would have been executed by vigilantes. Instead, people put up posters and protested in front of his home and heaven forbid, began shouting which irritated the neighbors. The officer has yet to be charged.

Details from:

http://www.phillymag.com/news/2017/08/25/protest-home-cop-david-jones/

"Police say a brief struggle ensued, during which Pownall noticed Jones was carrying a gun. The gun reportedly dropped to the ground as Jones attempted to run away. Pownall shot Jones while he ran, according to security footage. Jones was not armed when he was shot. A witness claims said Pownall searched the ground where Jones lay after he was shot, appearing to search for the gun, which was located a few feet from where Jones had fled."

It does NOT SAY that the security camera footage showed him DROPPING THE GUN.

"A witness claims"= complete bullshit.

More Dindu Nuffin nonsense. He was a convicted felon, in possession of a loaded gun, who sought to escape arrest.

Dr. Who
09-03-2017, 02:06 AM
"Police say a brief struggle ensued, during which Pownall noticed Jones was carrying a gun. The gun reportedly dropped to the ground as Jones attempted to run away. Pownall shot Jones while he ran, according to security footage. Jones was not armed when he was shot. A witness claims said Pownall searched the ground where Jones lay after he was shot, appearing to search for the gun, which was located a few feet from where Jones had fled."

It does NOT SAY that the security camera footage showed him DROPPING THE GUN.

"A witness claims"= complete bullshit.

More Dindu Nuffin nonsense. He was a convicted felon, in possession of a loaded gun, who sought to escape arrest.
Even if he was shot in possession of a loaded gun, but was not using that weapon against the officer, it was murder. There is no defense to shooting someone in the back.

Common
09-03-2017, 04:42 AM
Last Thursday night, Pownall, while transporting several witnesses in an unrelated matter to the Special Victims Unit at 300 E. Hunting Park Ave., was stopped at a red light at Whitaker and Hunting Park when he spotted a red dirt bike being operated in a reckless manner, police said.
The dirt bike stalled on the sidewalk next to Casa de Espana restaurant in the 4200 block of Whitaker. Pownall pulled over near the dirt bike, exited his patrol vehicle and attempted to question Jones.
Police said Jones turned the right side of his body away from Pownall and grabbed the front of his waistband. Pownall reached out to pat down Jones and felt a handgun in his waistband, police said.
The officer drew his own weapon and repeatedly ordered Jones not to touch his gun, police said.
Police Commissioner Richard Ross said a witness in the back of the patrol car also pleaded with Jones not to grab his gun.
A struggle ensued and Jones pulled out his gun, police said.
Pownall squeezed the trigger on his service weapon but it jammed, police said. He cleared the jam and fired at Jones, who by then was running away.
TV news images from the scene showed a pistol on the ground just feet from the dirt bike, away from where Jones had run to when he was shot.
Ross said he viewed surveillance video of part of the encounter and the footage of the man getting shot while running away “gives me pause.” (http://www.philly.com/philly/news/crime/police-fatally-shoot-armed-male-20170609.html)
The 9mm pistol was loaded with 15 rounds, police said.

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/police-identify-officer-in-fatal-shooting-of-armed-man-20170612.html

Ransom
09-03-2017, 06:30 AM
I am just suggesting that if you look historically, people, in general, didn't take injustice lying down unless they were living under autocratic dominance and even then individuals turned up dead because protest was not permitted. Protest is civilized disagreement which is far better than the alternative.
I believe you are a being a tad disingenuous referring to BLM 'protest' as '"civilized disagreement."

Please.

Trish
09-03-2017, 07:12 AM
I'm a little uncomfortable with how this police officer reacted starting with the point that he was in the process of transporting witnesses. He was in the process of handling another police matter when he decided to pull over and engage someone in another police matter. This just seems odd to me. Setting aside what transpired after he engaged the individual.

The police officer seems a bit overzealous. Could it be coincidence that this is the second person he's shot in the back? I guess, but it also speaks of his inability to control situations before it reaches a point that he has to discharge his firearm. Let's not forget that everyone is innocent until proven guilty. What we now know about each of the individuals he shot was NOT known at the time he shot them. That's a very important factor in weighing this police officers actions. Just food for thought...

Also, I would guess that there are fellow officers that are uncomfortable with how this particular officer has conducted himself in the past. If there are current or ex police on this forum I'd be interested hearing their perspectives.

Safety
09-03-2017, 07:26 AM
"Police say a brief struggle ensued, during which Pownall noticed Jones was carrying a gun. The gun reportedly dropped to the ground as Jones attempted to run away. Pownall shot Jones while he ran, according to security footage. Jones was not armed when he was shot. A witness claims said Pownall searched the ground where Jones lay after he was shot, appearing to search for the gun, which was located a few feet from where Jones had fled."

It does NOT SAY that the security camera footage showed him DROPPING THE GUN.

"A witness claims"= complete bullshit.

More Dindu Nuffin nonsense. He was a convicted felon, in possession of a loaded gun, who sought to escape arrest.

LoL @ dindu nuffin. The go to descriptor used by stormfronters everywhere.

donttread
09-03-2017, 07:44 AM
Finally...someone speaking the truth about this domestic terrorist group. The officer that the Left's Darling Thugs are "protesting" shot an illegally armed felon trying to flee with his illegal weapon, so naturally the left is pissed, because only legally armed white people are "a problem" in leftbubble.


Philly Police Union President Calls Black Lives Matter Activists 'A Pack Of Rabid Animals'
The president of a Pennsylvania police union responded to Black Lives Matter activists demanding accountability for the police killing of a black man by calling the group a “pack of rabid animals.”
Philadelphia Fraternal Order of Police President John McNesby made the statement Thursday during a rally held by and in support of police (http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Police-Union-President-Calls-Black-Lives-Matter-Protesters-Outside-Philadelphia-Officers-House-a-Pack-of-Rabid-Animals-Report-442452063.html?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_PHBrand&ncid=edlinkushpmg00000313), according to NBC Philadelphia. The “Back the Blue” rally was in response to a protest the week before by members of Black Lives Matter held outside the house of Officer Ryan Pownall, who fatally shot a David Jones in June.

Pownall, a 12-year veteran, shot Jones in the back as he fled (http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/police-identify-officer-in-fatal-shooting-of-armed-man-20170612.html?ncid=edlinkushpmg00000313) from a traffic stop. Police said Jones was armed with a gun. This marks the second time Pownall has shot a black man in the back as he was fleeing. In 2010, he shot Carnell Williams-Carney who ran from cops while having an illegal gun on him.

At Thursday’s police rally, McNesby called BLM protesters “racist hate groups determined to instigate violence.”

“When you go to work each day, you shouldn’t have to worry that a pack of rabid animals will suddenly show up at your home and openly threaten your family,” McNesby said inside FOP headquarters (http://www.newsworks.org/index.php/homepage-feature/item/106863-after-recent-protest-at-philly-cops-home-hundreds-gather-in-northeast-to-back-the-blue?linktype=hp_impact&ncid=edlinkushpmg00000313), according to NewsWorks. “These are not activists, they are racist hate groups determined to instigate violence.”






https://www.yahoo.com/news/philly-police-union-president-calls-163823054.html

Not much of a threat running away with a hand gun was he? However, factions of BLM are no better. Neighorhoods have to find a way to police themselves

donttread
09-03-2017, 07:45 AM
He'll be fired next week.


CRiminal charges will fix this not firings and tax payer funded lawsuits.

Crepitus
09-03-2017, 10:10 AM
Finally...someone speaking the truth about this domestic terrorist group. The officer that the Left's Darling Thugs are "protesting" shot an illegally armed felon trying to flee with his illegal weapon, so naturally the left is pissed, because only legally armed white people are "a problem" in leftbubble.


Philly Police Union President Calls Black Lives Matter Activists 'A Pack Of Rabid Animals'
The president of a Pennsylvania police union responded to Black Lives Matter activists demanding accountability for the police killing of a black man by calling the group a “pack of rabid animals.”
Philadelphia Fraternal Order of Police President John McNesby made the statement Thursday during a rally held by and in support of police (http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Police-Union-President-Calls-Black-Lives-Matter-Protesters-Outside-Philadelphia-Officers-House-a-Pack-of-Rabid-Animals-Report-442452063.html?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_PHBrand&ncid=edlinkushpmg00000313), according to NBC Philadelphia. The “Back the Blue” rally was in response to a protest the week before by members of Black Lives Matter held outside the house of Officer Ryan Pownall, who fatally shot a David Jones in June.

Pownall, a 12-year veteran, shot Jones in the back as he fled (http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/police-identify-officer-in-fatal-shooting-of-armed-man-20170612.html?ncid=edlinkushpmg00000313) from a traffic stop. Police said Jones was armed with a gun. This marks the second time Pownall has shot a black man in the back as he was fleeing. In 2010, he shot Carnell Williams-Carney who ran from cops while having an illegal gun on him.

At Thursday’s police rally, McNesby called BLM protesters “racist hate groups determined to instigate violence.”

“When you go to work each day, you shouldn’t have to worry that a pack of rabid animals will suddenly show up at your home and openly threaten your family,” McNesby said inside FOP headquarters (http://www.newsworks.org/index.php/homepage-feature/item/106863-after-recent-protest-at-philly-cops-home-hundreds-gather-in-northeast-to-back-the-blue?linktype=hp_impact&ncid=edlinkushpmg00000313), according to NewsWorks. “These are not activists, they are racist hate groups determined to instigate violence.”






https://www.yahoo.com/news/philly-police-union-president-calls-163823054.html

And remember folks, this is coming from the man in charge of a police department that shoots people at six times the national average rate so when he talks about rabid thugs he knows what he's talking about.

Crepitus
09-03-2017, 10:17 AM
"Police say a brief struggle ensued, during which Pownall noticed Jones was carrying a gun. The gun reportedly dropped to the ground as Jones attempted to run away. Pownall shot Jones while he ran, according to security footage. Jones was not armed when he was shot. A witness claims said Pownall searched the ground where Jones lay after he was shot, appearing to search for the gun, which was located a few feet from where Jones had fled."

It does NOT SAY that the security camera footage showed him DROPPING THE GUN.

"A witness claims"= complete bullshit.

More Dindu Nuffin nonsense. He was a convicted felon, in possession of a loaded gun, who sought to escape arrest.

"Dindu Nuffin"???
OMG You're flipping stormfronter! A god damn nazi right here on tPF!! They are the only people who use that phrase as far as I know.

Common
09-03-2017, 10:30 AM
I guess no one read what I posted thats much more in detail what occurred than what Dr Who posted.

If you actually read it and put it in its perspective without the hate police at all costs mentality, you shall see the individual contributed the most to his death by his ACTIONS.

Officers are humans, especially today confronted with police being executed anytime they "BELIEVE" a gun is involved you had better act accordingly and do what you are told to do.

The police officer is in a physical confrontation with a guy with a GUN who refused to obey any directions he was given by the time that man started to run the cops adrenaline was SOARING and he thought the guy still had the gun.

Shooting somone in the back is never the right thing to do, UNLESS there are extinuating circumstances. I dont know if this cop did the right thing or not, that still needs to be determined. It may turn out this article is wrong.

As soon as the officer knew he had a gun and he was NOT obeying his command that guy was in danger of getting HIMSELF shot.

DGUtley
09-03-2017, 10:38 AM
"Dindu Nuffin"??? OMG You're flipping stormfronter! A god damn nazi right here on tPF!! They are the only people who use that phrase as far as I know.
WARNING -- Crepitus -- calling someone a Nazi is bad faith posting. Stop please.

Cletus
09-03-2017, 11:26 AM
Even if he was shot in possession of a loaded gun, but was not using that weapon against the officer, it was murder. There is no defense to shooting someone in the back.

There are many defenses for shooting someone in the back. Whether they are applicable in this particular case, I couldn't say, but your statement that it can't be defended is not correct.

resister
09-03-2017, 11:28 AM
There are many defenses for shooting someone in the back. Whether they are applicable in this particular case, I couldn't say, but your statement that it can't be defended is not correct.
Escaping inmates and in war are two that come to mind.

The Xl
09-03-2017, 11:32 AM
"Police say a brief struggle ensued, during which Pownall noticed Jones was carrying a gun. The gun reportedly dropped to the ground as Jones attempted to run away. Pownall shot Jones while he ran, according to security footage. Jones was not armed when he was shot. A witness claims said Pownall searched the ground where Jones lay after he was shot, appearing to search for the gun, which was located a few feet from where Jones had fled."

It does NOT SAY that the security camera footage showed him DROPPING THE GUN.

"A witness claims"= complete bullshit.

More Dindu Nuffin nonsense. He was a convicted felon, in possession of a loaded gun, who sought to escape arrest.

Hard to take your opinion seriously with the dindu nuffin shit, you clearly have a bone to pick here.

Grokmaster
09-03-2017, 11:36 AM
"Dindu Nuffin"???
OMG You're flipping stormfronter! A god damn nazi right here on tPF!! They are the only people who use that phrase as far as I know.

And your ignorance and vastly limited, and bigoted frame of reference is exposed again.

I'm not a leftist, by any means; why would I be a "nazi"? Der...

Most American blacks ARE NOT with BLM; it is CULTURE, not RACE...except, of course, to the always racist left.

Grokmaster
09-03-2017, 11:37 AM
Hard to take your opinion seriously with the dindu nuffin $#@!, you clearly have a bone to pick here.


It's an accurate lampooning of the felon's family's statements about the felon. Same ol' bullshit.

An armed felon, fleeing arrest after assaulting a police officer, is depicted as the "poor, innocent victim".

Sick up to here of it. I call it like I see it. His race has nothing to do with it. His BEHAVIOR DOES.

Common
09-03-2017, 11:54 AM
Even if he was shot in possession of a loaded gun, but was not using that weapon against the officer, it was murder. There is no defense to shooting someone in the back.
Thats not correct Doc and I really dont want to get into it because nothing would convince the anti police crowd

Crepitus
09-03-2017, 12:08 PM
And your ignorance is exposed again. I'm not a leftist, by any means; why would I be a "nazi"? Der...

Authoritarian right.

resister
09-03-2017, 12:49 PM
Authoritarian right.
You only got your talking point from safety's post several post before yours, I thought it funny that you jumped on the meme bandwagon :rollseyes:

Grokmaster
09-03-2017, 12:54 PM
Thats not correct Doc and I really dont want to get into it because nothing would convince the anti police crowd
Why did he have a LOADED GUN, if he was not intending violence?

Grokmaster
09-03-2017, 12:55 PM
Authoritarian right.
Yes, because we should allow armed, convicted felons freedom when they assault police officers, and flee arrest, so that they can hopefully victimize some innocent citizens).

Pro-criminal left.

Crepitus
09-03-2017, 01:38 PM
You only got your talking point from safety's post several post before yours, I thought it funny that you jumped on the meme bandwagon :rollseyes:

Actually no, I responded to the comments as I read them. I did thank Safety's comment when I got to it though.

Safety
09-03-2017, 01:39 PM
Why did he have a LOADED GUN, if he was not intending violence?

Why did LaVoy have one?

resister
09-03-2017, 01:40 PM
Actually no, I responded to the comments as I read them. I did thank @Safety (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1226)'s comment when I got to it though.Is there some official list of stormfront terms?

Crepitus
09-03-2017, 01:45 PM
Is there some official list of stormfront terms?

Not as far as I know, but I've never heard that term from anyone who wasn't a a proud member.

Mister D
09-03-2017, 02:28 PM
Is there some official list of stormfront terms?
"Stormfront" looms large in the liberal imagination. Everything is "Stromfront". Now that it's closed the parrots will have to learn another term.

resister
09-03-2017, 02:29 PM
"Stormfront" looms large in the liberal imagination. Everything is "Stromfront". Now that it's closed the parrots will have to learn another term.I honestly never of them until TFP.

Captain Obvious
09-03-2017, 02:30 PM
"Stormfront" looms large in the liberal imagination. Everything is "Stromfront". Now that it's closed the parrots will have to learn another term.

Add "stormfront" to the ever-growing list of flavor-of-the-day bottom feeder tems.

Alt, fake news... I forget the other ones, I had a thread to keep track of them but I never kept it up.

Mister D
09-03-2017, 02:31 PM
I don't how we can expect black people to take responsibility for their own communities when we keep gunning down their intellectuals. David Jones could have been the guy who discovered a cure for cancer. Now we'll never know. Shame...

Mister D
09-03-2017, 02:32 PM
Add "stormfront" to the ever-growing list of flavor-of-the-day bottom feeder tems.

Alt, fake news... I forget the other ones, I had a thread to keep track of them but I never kept it up.
"Right wing meme" but they seem to have tired of that. Oh, lets not forget "dog whistle".

Mister D
09-03-2017, 02:33 PM
I honestly never of them until TFP.
Most of our progressives admit to having been there. I have a hunch a significant portion of their traffic was from progressive weirdos entering the forbidden zone.

resister
09-03-2017, 02:36 PM
Most of our progressives admit to having been there. I have a hunch a significant portion of their traffic was from progressive weirdos entering the forbidden zone.Probably, I heard so much about it, that I looked to see what the fuss was about, I lasted about 5 minutes and logged out, for good.

donttread
09-03-2017, 03:30 PM
There are many defenses for shooting someone in the back. Whether they are applicable in this particular case, I couldn't say, but your statement that it can't be defended is not correct.

List a few of the many. I can only think of a couple. One being they are running away to get a shot at you and you cannot escape , the other being they are running with the intention to harm someone else .

Grokmaster
09-03-2017, 03:34 PM
List a few of the many. I can only think of a couple. One being they are running away to get a shot at you and you cannot escape , the other being they are running with the intention to harm someone else .
Both of which fit armed felon trying to escape arrest...

donttread
09-03-2017, 03:36 PM
Both of which fit armed felon trying to escape arrest...


Ummm, not exactly, the "intent" would have to be there and obvious to a "reasonable person"

Grokmaster
09-03-2017, 03:38 PM
Ummm, not exactly, the "intent" would have to be there and obvious to a "reasonable person"

A convicted felon on possession of a loaded gun, is already committing a GUN CRIME, to any person. He then assaulted the police officer and fled to avoid arrest.

Safety
09-03-2017, 07:39 PM
I don't how we can expect black people to take responsibility for their own communities when we keep gunning down their intellectuals. David Jones could have been the guy who discovered a cure for cancer. Now we'll never know. Shame...

This shows that just because their website is shut down, it doesn't mean their members aren't posting on other sites....

Keep up the good fight, brah. :biglaugh:

resister
09-03-2017, 07:52 PM
This shows that just because their website is shut down, it doesn't mean their members aren't posting on other sites....

Keep up the good fight, brah. :biglaugh:
Keep up your racist paranoia!

Safety
09-03-2017, 08:24 PM
Keep up your racist paranoia!

I don’t think you understand the words you use, for if you did, your post to me wouldn’t exist.

resister
09-03-2017, 08:30 PM
I don’t think you understand the words you use, for if you did, your post to me wouldn’t exist.
lol, stormfront lost a confused member!

Mister D
09-03-2017, 08:42 PM
lol, stormfront lost a confused member!
Apparently, only a Stormfronter could overlook the positive contributions of one David Jones. lol

Cthulhu
09-05-2017, 07:20 AM
Armed felons with their weapons. I can think of no reason to allow them to escape and harm more innocent citizens.Running away. Not much of a threat to society - armed or not.

Need more information. But blasting somebody for running away is only acceptable in dire circumstances.

And I'm short on that information.

I know for a fact that if I shot a home intruder as he was running away I would be charged and likely convicted. Not sure why these officers are getting a pass here.

Sent from my evil cell phone.

Grokmaster
09-05-2017, 07:22 AM
Running away. Not much of a threat to society - armed or not.

Need more information. But blasting somebody for running away is only acceptable in dire circumstances.

And I'm short on that information.

I know for a fact that if I shot a home intruder as he was running away I would be charged and likely convicted. Not sure why these officers are getting a pass here.

Sent from my evil cell phone.
A violent, ARMED felon allowed to roam free among the population, is most certainly a 'threat". Ask the people of south Chicago...

Cthulhu
09-05-2017, 07:22 AM
CRiminal charges will fix this not firings and tax payer funded lawsuits.And convictions...

Sent from my evil cell phone.

Cthulhu
09-05-2017, 07:25 AM
Why did he have a LOADED GUN, if he was not intending violence?Umm... Millions of concealed carry permit holders do the exact same thing.

They aren't intending violence.

Sent from my evil cell phone.

Cthulhu
09-05-2017, 07:27 AM
Why did LaVoy have one?Odds are that weapon was planted in him.

You should look into that case a little deeper. It is crabbed from top to bottom.

Sent from my evil cell phone.

Grokmaster
09-05-2017, 07:28 AM
And convictions...

Sent from my evil cell phone.
The officer did his job.

Grokmaster
09-05-2017, 07:28 AM
Odds are that weapon was planted in him.

You should look into that case a little deeper. It is crabbed from top to bottom.

Sent from my evil cell phone.

Bullshit. The video shows that he HAD a weapon.

Grokmaster
09-05-2017, 07:29 AM
Umm... Millions of concealed carry permit holders do the exact same thing.

They aren't intending violence.

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So, LEGALLY ARMED CITIZENS = VIOLENT, ARMED FELONS in your ridiculous view? Once again, ask the people of south Chicago...

Cthulhu
09-05-2017, 07:30 AM
A violent, ARMED felon allowed to roam free among the population, is most certainly a 'threat". Ask the people of south Chicago...Running away isn't violence though.

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Grokmaster
09-05-2017, 07:32 AM
Running away isn't violence though.

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Assaulting the police officer was. And then the VIOLENT, ARMED FELON sought to flee arrest, which is = to millions of legally armed , NON FELON, Americas citizens, to you.

Cthulhu
09-05-2017, 10:16 AM
So, LEGALLY ARMED CITIZENS = VIOLENT, ARMED FELONS in your ridiculous view? Once again, ask the people of south Chicago...No. I'm just saying they aren't out being violent. Bullets in a gun does not equate to violent intent.

I like you Grok, I just don't think you're looking at it objectively is all.

Shooting someone who is running away is a hard to explain given the current legal climate - and usually just wrong.

I'm not going to shoot a guy for running off with my TV, I would shoot a guy who stabbed my wife and then took off running.

You have too weigh these things carefully.

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Cthulhu
09-05-2017, 10:18 AM
Bull$#@!. The video shows that he HAD a weapon.I'm taking about Lavoy, not the escaping felon.

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Cthulhu
09-05-2017, 10:20 AM
Assaulting the police officer was. And then the VIOLENT, ARMED FELON sought to flee arrest, which is = to millions of legally armed , NON FELON, Americas citizens, to you.You are over simplifying this.

And no, that isn't what I think. Ask me what I think, don't assume. You might like/hate/be indifferent to what you find.

Ugh.

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