Yes, antifa is the moral equivalent of neo-Nazis

[Grokmaster]

And anyone who has actually read "Mein Kampf",( Hitler, 1924) knows that Hitler plagerized the majority of it from "The Communist Manifesto" ( Marx, Engells, etal, 1848), which was almost entirely plagerized from "The Social Contract" (Rousseau, 1762).

They are ALL the poisonous fruit of the same rotten tree.

And now we see the leftists of Antifa using the same brownshirt tactics of their ideological forefathers....

Yes, antifa is the moral equivalent of neo-Nazis


Last weekend in Berkeley, Calif., a group of neo-communist antifa — “anti-fascist” — thugs attacked peaceful protesters at a “No to Marxism in America” rally, wielding sticks and pepper spray, and beating people with homemade shields that read (I kid you not) “No Hate (https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/28/berkeley-protest-rally-stormed-by-anarchists.html).” The Post reports (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/08/28/black-clad-antifa-attack-right-wing-demonstrators-in-berkeley/?utm_term=.fcf2a9bea67e) how one peaceful protester “was attacked by five black-clad antifa members, each windmilling kicks and punches into a man desperately trying to protect himself.” Members of the Berkeley College Republicans were then stalked (https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=9656) by antifa goons who followed them to a gas station and demanded they “get the [expletive] out” of their car, warning, “We are real hungry for supremacists and there is more of us.”

The organizer of the anti-Marxism protest is not a white supremacist. Amber Cummings is a self-described “transsexual female who embraces diversity” and had announced (https://www.facebook.com/events/1356598631088305/) on Facebook that “any racist groups like the KKK [and] Neo Nazis . . . are not welcome.” The protest was needed, Cummings said (http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/08/25/whos-behind-the-mysterious-rally-in-berkeley-this-sunday/), because “Berkeley is a ground zero for the Marxist Movement.”

As if to prove Cummings’s point, the antifa movement responded with jackboots and clubs — because their definition of “fascist” includes not just neo-Nazis but also anyone who opposes their totalitarian worldview.

And let’s be clear: Totalitarian is precisely what they are. Mark Bray, a Dartmouth lecturer who has defended (https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/is-violence-ever-acceptable-in-the-face-of-hate-groups-1028526659570) antifa’s violent tactics, recently explained in The Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/made-by-history/wp/2017/08/16/who-are-the-antifa/?utm_term=.082fb0091214), “Its adherents are predominantly communists, socialists and anarchists” who believe that physical violence “is both ethically justifiable and strategically effective.” In other words, they are no different from neo-Nazis. Neo-Nazis are the violent advocates of a murderous ideology that killed 25 million people last century. Antifa members are the violent advocates of a murderous ideology that, according to “The Black Book of Communism (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0674076087/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=thewaspos09-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=0674076087&linkId=2393d86aa1495f78763ed32c57dc298b),” killed between 85 million and 100 million people last century. Both practice violence and preach hate. They are morally indistinguishable. There is no difference between those who beat innocent people in the name of the ideology that gave us Hitler and Himmler and those who beat innocent people in the name of the ideology that gave us Stalin and Dzerzhinsky.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/yes-antifa-is-the-moral-equivalent-of-neo-nazis/2017/08/30/9a13b2f6-8d00-11e7-91d5-ab4e4bb76a3a_story.html?utm_term=.6300fbc279ca

[resister]

I look forward to the deflections. These idiots need their ass handed to them any time they get violent. The dumbest shit I ever heard? "Antifa Saves lives"

[Dangermouse]

There can be no moral equivalent of Nazis, Neo or Not.

[resister]

There can be no moral equivalent of Nazis, Neo or Not.
I'm sure that thought steels innocent people in the crowds to blows from antifa's weapons.:rollseyes: *While beating the shit out of you, "but don't worry, i'm not a Nazi" *

[donttread]

There can be no moral equivalent of Nazis, Neo or Not.

Look around the world before you say that.

[Grokmaster]

There can be no moral equivalent of Nazis, Neo or Not.

If not for the EXACT PARALLELS between them and Antifa, except that antifa is FAR MORE VIOLENT, I suppose. :rollseyes:

[Captain Obvious]

"Nazi" is the new scapegoat for the left.

As if anything the left does is justified by saying "well, at least we're not Nazis"

[Crepitus]

And anyone who has actually read "Mein Kampf",( Hitler, 1924) knows that Hitler plagerized the majority of it from "The Communist Manifesto" ( Marx, Engells, etal, 1848), which was almost entirely plagerized from "The Social Contract" (Rousseau, 1762).

They are ALL the poisonous fruit of the same rotten tree.

And now we see the leftists of Antifa using the same brownshirt tactics of their ideological forefathers....

Yes, antifa is the moral equivalent of neo-Nazis


Last weekend in Berkeley, Calif., a group of neo-communist antifa — “anti-fascist” — thugs attacked peaceful protesters at a “No to Marxism in America” rally, wielding sticks and pepper spray, and beating people with homemade shields that read (I kid you not) “No Hate (https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/28/berkeley-protest-rally-stormed-by-anarchists.html).” The Post reports (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/08/28/black-clad-antifa-attack-right-wing-demonstrators-in-berkeley/?utm_term=.fcf2a9bea67e) how one peaceful protester “was attacked by five black-clad antifa members, each windmilling kicks and punches into a man desperately trying to protect himself.” Members of the Berkeley College Republicans were then stalked (https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=9656) by antifa goons who followed them to a gas station and demanded they “get the [expletive] out” of their car, warning, “We are real hungry for supremacists and there is more of us.”

The organizer of the anti-Marxism protest is not a white supremacist. Amber Cummings is a self-described “transsexual female who embraces diversity” and had announced (https://www.facebook.com/events/1356598631088305/) on Facebook that “any racist groups like the KKK [and] Neo Nazis . . . are not welcome.” The protest was needed, Cummings said (http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/08/25/whos-behind-the-mysterious-rally-in-berkeley-this-sunday/), because “Berkeley is a ground zero for the Marxist Movement.”

As if to prove Cummings’s point, the antifa movement responded with jackboots and clubs — because their definition of “fascist” includes not just neo-Nazis but also anyone who opposes their totalitarian worldview.

And let’s be clear: Totalitarian is precisely what they are. Mark Bray, a Dartmouth lecturer who has defended (https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/is-violence-ever-acceptable-in-the-face-of-hate-groups-1028526659570) antifa’s violent tactics, recently explained in The Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/made-by-history/wp/2017/08/16/who-are-the-antifa/?utm_term=.082fb0091214), “Its adherents are predominantly communists, socialists and anarchists” who believe that physical violence “is both ethically justifiable and strategically effective.” In other words, they are no different from neo-Nazis. Neo-Nazis are the violent advocates of a murderous ideology that killed 25 million people last century. Antifa members are the violent advocates of a murderous ideology that, according to “The Black Book of Communism (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0674076087/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=thewaspos09-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=0674076087&linkId=2393d86aa1495f78763ed32c57dc298b),” killed between 85 million and 100 million people last century. Both practice violence and preach hate. They are morally indistinguishable. There is no difference between those who beat innocent people in the name of the ideology that gave us Hitler and Himmler and those who beat innocent people in the name of the ideology that gave us Stalin and Dzerzhinsky.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/yes-antifa-is-the-moral-equivalent-of-neo-nazis/2017/08/30/9a13b2f6-8d00-11e7-91d5-ab4e4bb76a3a_story.html?utm_term=.6300fbc279ca

You are granting the nazis the recognition they crave when you elevate them to equivalency with anything above the level of pond scum.

[resister]

There can be no moral equivalent of Nazis, Neo or Not.
Horse shoe theory, go to far left or right, end up in the same place, extremism.:rollseyes:

[Grokmaster]

You are granting the nazis the recognition they crave when you elevate them to equivalency with anything above the level of pond scum.

Who did that? Antifa IS pond scum.

[Mister D]

There can be no moral equivalent of Nazis, Neo or Not.
Why not? The Reds killed a lot more people.

[Grokmaster]

Why not? The Reds killed a lot more people.

During what they called "peacetime"....

[Mister D]

Who did that? Antifa IS pond scum.
This guy talks about Nazis all the time and he's worried you're giving them the recognition they crave. Seriously, I think our friend is a little slow if you know what I mean.

[Mister D]

During what they called "peacetime"....
Right. The vast majority of their victims were non-combatants and often their own citizens.

[Mister D]

There can be no moral equivalent of Nazis, Neo or Not.
I should add that this is dogma to progressive kooks.

[Captain Obvious]

I should add that this is dogma to progressive kooks.

Dogma whistle

....bahhhahahahaa

[Ethereal]

There can be no moral equivalent of Nazis, Neo or Not.
Stalinists and Maoists killed way more people than the Nazis did. But they come from the "left" side of the socialist spectrum, so they get a pass from people like you.

[Captain Obvious]

Stalinists and Maoists killed way more people than the Nazis did. But they come from the "left" side of the socialist spectrum, so they get a pass from people like you.
http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/86991-who-are-the-more-evil-the-left-or-Nazis?highlight=evil

[Bethere]

Stalinists and Maoists killed way more people than the Nazis did. But they come from the "left" side of the socialist spectrum, so they get a pass from people like you.

So! You accidentally admit that fascism is diametrically opposed to socialism!

How cool is that?

[Peter1469]

So! You accidentally admit that fascism is diametrically opposed to socialism!

How cool is that?
Opposed. Yes. Very different, no.

[Dangermouse]

If not for the EXACT PARALLELS between them and Antifa, except that antifa is FAR MORE VIOLENT, I suppose. :rollseyes:

When did anti fascists cause 12 million deaths? Stop the silly.

[Captain Obvious]

When did anti fascists cause 12 million deaths? Stop the silly.

I guess you missed the several references to the tens if not hundreds of millions of deaths at the hands of Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, etc.

Funny that

[Peter1469]

The atheists leaders who hated fascism killed tens of millions of their own citizens. Cap cited it above.

[Mister D]

I guess you missed the several references to the tens if not hundreds of millions of deaths at the hands of Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, etc.

Funny that
He also forgot what he actually said.

[Captain Obvious]

He also forgot what he actually said.

So will most of the rest of us

[Common]

The equivalent of moral is the violence, no one cant stop anyone from thinking anything they want, you cant change anyones thinking with violence.

Nazi, BLM and Antifa, they all have their way of thinking theres people that agree and disagree with all of them. What the connecting factor is violence and antifa is by far the most violent, not only are they the most violent they are the most violent all the time.

Whats going on in this country is disgusting, professors teaching hate, public school teachers teaching hate against anything or anyone that dares to disagree with them on anything.

None of them have the moral high ground and btw I dont have any use for all 3 of them

[Ethereal]

So! You accidentally admit that fascism is diametrically opposed to socialism!

How cool is that?

Fascism is socialism.

[Ethereal]

When did anti fascists cause 12 million deaths? Stop the silly.
I guess you forgot about a guy named Joseph Stalin.

[Captain Obvious]

Fascism is socialism.
Statistism, an offshoot of socialism basically.

[Ethereal]

Statistism, an offshoot of socialism basically.
I would reverse the order, i.e., socialism is a subset of statism. Although it need not be that way. There are anarchic forms of socialism. But a lot of self-identified anarcho-socialists tend to be a bit confused about how it would work in practice.

[Tahuyaman]

ANTIFA is just a bunch of thugs looking for a way to legitimize their idiotic cause.

[Dangermouse]

Horse shoe theory, go to far left or right, end up in the same place, extremism.:rollseyes:

I see the bent way you think, ponder this.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/charlottesville-aftermath-1.4246438

[Dangermouse]

ANTIFA is just a bunch of thugs looking for a way to legitimize their idiotic cause.

To be antifascist is to be sane and healthy.

[Bethere]

Fascism is socialism.
Make up your mind, sophist.

[Cletus]

You are granting the nazis the recognition they crave when you elevate them to equivalency with anything above the level of pond scum.

What makes you think Antifa is above the level of pond scum?

[Crepitus]

What makes you think Antifa is above the level of pond scum?

Common sense. (Not the fella with that screen name)

[Peter1469]

To be antifascist is to be sane and healthy.
Domestic terrorists?

[Cletus]

Common sense. (Not the fella with that screen name)

That can't be true in your case.

Would you care to try again?

[Crepitus]

That can't be true in your case.

Would you care to try again?

Ah, now we resort to insults.

Goodnight sir.

[Cletus]

Ah, now we resort to insults.

It wasn't an insult. It was a fact.

[Common]

Antifa is a domestic terrorist group, they are on the watch list right along side white supremist groups. That should put to bed any liberal ideals about antifa being righteous

They have committed more violence against innocent people than any other group in america of late.

[Ethereal]

Make up your mind, sophist.
Fascism is socialism. I never said or implied otherwise. Perhaps you should work on your reading comprehension.

[Bethere]

Fascism is socialism. I never said or implied otherwise. Perhaps you should work on your reading comprehension.
Perhaps you could take a couple of poli sci classes.

[Peter1469]

Perhaps you could take a couple of poli sci classes.
He is correct.

Both fascism and communism come from socialism. They are like kissing cousins.

[Crepitus]

It wasn't an insult. It was a fact.

And he doubles down. Nice.

By.

[Tahuyaman]

To be antifascist is to be sane and healthy.

and how are they anti-fascist?

[Mister D]

and how are they anti-fascist?
Since fascism has ceased to exist as of 1945 that's a really good question.

[Ethereal]

Perhaps you could take a couple of poli sci classes.
Fascists are national socialists. Communists are international socialists.

Any questions?

[The Xl]

Being violent because you don't agree with the personal views of an impotent, and clownish group expressing their right to express said views isn't being "Antifascist"

[Cletus]

And he doubles down. Nice.

By.

By what?

[Cthulhu]

You are granting the nazis the recognition they crave when you elevate them to equivalency with anything above the level of pond scum.Than perhaps lefties shouldn't toss the term about so casually.

Sent from my evil cell phone.

[Cthulhu]

Why not? The Reds killed a lot more people.True. People seem to forget things like the killing fields, or the Japanese culling of the Chinese during the contemporary period.

There have been worse genocides.

But hey, they're not Jews so...

Sent from my evil cell phone.

[Bethere]

True. People seem to forget things like the killing fields, or the Japanese culling of the Chinese during the contemporary period.

There have been worse genocides.

But hey, they're not Jews so...

Sent from my evil cell phone.

Gosh watching fans of fascism resort to "they did it, too!" arguments is enlightening to say the least.

[Cthulhu]

So! You accidentally admit that fascism is diametrically opposed to socialism!

How cool is that?Dude the Nazis were socialists.

Sent from my evil cell phone.

[Cthulhu]

Gosh watching fans of fascism resort to "they did it, too!" arguments is enlightening to say the least.I'm not the one giving antifa a pass now am I?

Take a nap my Japanese friend, you're acting tired and clumsy.

Sent from my evil cell phone.

[Bethere]

Dude the Nazis were socialists.

Sent from my evil cell phone.

Lol. No educated posters buy that unless they are among the sophists selling it.

[Cthulhu]

Lol. No educated posters buy that unless they are among the sophists selling it.Lawlsy.

Take a nap, come back when you've undergone some historical tutelage.

Sent from my evil cell phone.

[Kalkin]

There can be no moral equivalent of Nazis, Neo or Not.

True, antifa is the immoral equivalent to the neo-nazis.

[Bethere]

I'm not the one giving antifa a pass now am I?

Take a nap my Japanese friend, you're acting tired and clumsy.

Sent from my evil cell phone.

Few even heard of antifa before sean hannity started selling it as a diversion from trump's white supremacist leanings.

[Bethere]

Lawlsy.

Take a nap, come back when you've undergone some historical tutelage.

Sent from my evil cell phone.

Attacking the master doesn't improve your argument. You told the great one of how skilled you are. Bethere patiently awaits evidence of those claims.

[Cthulhu]

Few even heard of antifa before sean hannity started selling it as a diversion from trump's white supremacist leanings.
Attacking the master doesn't improve your argument. You told the great one of how skilled you are. Bethere patiently awaits evidence of those claims.Don't post while drowsy my Japanese friend. Come back after a nap. That way your arguments aren't so slanted.

Sent from my evil cell phone.

[Bethere]

Don't post while drowsy my Japanese friend. Come back after a nap. That way your arguments aren't so slanted.

Sent from my evil cell phone.

I'm an American. I've never been to Japan. I have a Japanese grandfather, but I also am a direct descendant of people who fought in both the revolution and the civil war.

I suspect I am more American than my Germanic friend, Cthulhu.

Is ad hominem one of those mad skills you were bragging about previously?

[Kalkin]

Attacking the master doesn't improve your argument.
Are you referring to yourself, bater?

[Mister D]

Than perhaps lefties shouldn't toss the term about so casually.

Sent from my evil cell phone.

That.

[Cthulhu]

I'm an American. I've never been to Japan. I have a Japanese grandfather, but I also am a direct descendant of people who fought in both the revolution and the civil war.

I suspect I am more American than my Germanic friend, Cthulhu.

Is ad hominem one of those mad skills you were bragging about previously?You know Cthulhu doesn't eat junk food right?

Sent from my evil cell phone.

[Bethere]

You know Cthulhu doesn't eat junk food right?

Sent from my evil cell phone.

You aren't ready. Work on your skills.

I'm out of here.

[Peter1469]

Lol. No educated posters buy that unless they are among the sophists selling it.
Right, the Nazis wanted less government.

lol

[Bethere]

Right, the Nazis wanted less government.

lol

Keep selling it, maybe you'll find a willing buyer. Wait! Here comes resister!

[Mister D]

Wow look who's back. Didn't see that one coming. :laugh:

[Peter1469]

Keep selling it, maybe you'll find a willing buyer. Wait! Here comes resister!
So you think the Nazis are small government types?

[Crepitus]

Than perhaps lefties shouldn't toss the term about so casually.

Sent from my evil cell phone.

Call a spade a spade.

[Cthulhu]

You aren't ready. Work on your skills.

I'm out of here.

Slither faster. :cool:

Sent from my evil cell phone.

[Cthulhu]

Call a spade a spade.Let me know when they start committing genocide.

Until then, quit cheapening the suffering of the Jewish people too score political points.

Sent from my evil cell phone.

[Crepitus]

Let me know when they start committing genocide.

Until then, quit cheapening the suffering of the Jewish people too score political points.

Sent from my evil cell phone.

Do you really think they wouldn't, given the chance?

[Cthulhu]

Do you really think they wouldn't, given the chance?Yeah, I think they have more self control than the liberal side of the fence does.

Evidence proves they do when it comes to violent riots concerning election results they don't like.

Sent from my evil cell phone.

[Crepitus]

Yeah, I think they have more self control than the liberal side of the fence does.

Evidence proves they do when it comes to violent riots concerning election results they don't like.

Sent from my evil cell phone.

I think you are badly mistaken.

[Crepitus]

Let me know when they start committing genocide.

Until then, quit cheapening the suffering of the Jewish people too score political points.

Sent from my evil cell phone.

It occurs to me maybe you aren't familiar with nazis. You do know that it was them who killed millions of Jews right? And that they were attempting to eradicate the race, which is what genocide is right?

[Cthulhu]

It occurs to me maybe you aren't familiar with nazis. You do know that it was them who killed millions of Jews right? And that they were attempting to eradicate the race, which is what genocide is right?Are you being purposely obtuse?

Sent from my evil cell phone.

[stjames1_53]

Do you really think they wouldn't, given the chance?

nope....but your side doesn't think right. They are out to burn the country down. Now, should we stop them, or let them have their way?

[Grokmaster]

It occurs to me maybe you aren't familiar with nazis. You do know that it was them who killed millions of Jews right? And that they were attempting to eradicate the race, which is what genocide is right?
And communists murdered more of their own people than nazis ever dreamed of...you know, YOUR SIDE.

[Crepitus]

Are you being purposely obtuse?

Sent from my evil cell phone.

No, but I suspect you are.

[Crepitus]

nope....but your side doesn't think right. They are out to burn the country down. Now, should we stop them, or let them have their way?

You are kidding yourself if you actually believe that.

[Crepitus]

And communists murdered more of their own people than nazis ever dreamed of...you know, YOUR SIDE.

Nope, I'm no communist.

[Bethere]

No, but I suspect you are.

*floats to the surface*

*plays with his food*

*slides back into the water*

[Cthulhu]

*floats to the surface*

*plays with his food*

*slides back into the water*Imitation = flattery.

*Takes bow before audience*

Sent from my evil cell phone.

[Cthulhu]

I think you are badly mistaken.Well you're free to continue thinking the way you do.

No sweat off my back.

Sent from my evil cell phone.

[Cthulhu]

Fascists are national socialists. Communists are international socialists.

Any questions?According to some of the responses here, you should have some follow up.

But the ignorance is strong in the thread from some who excuse antifa's actions.

Sent from my evil cell phone.

[The Xl]

Neo Nazis are a bunch of whiny racists. Nazis were actually killers. Comparing the two literally is really stupid. Antifa is an idiotic and violent movement, but they're not out there literally killing people. It's made up of mostly brainwashed minorities and whiney, privileged upper middle class white kids that don't do shit.

Please stop going full retard with the comparisons, people.

[Cthulhu]

Neo Nazis are a bunch of whiny racists. Nazis were actually killers. Comparing the two literally is really stupid. Antifa is an idiotic and violent movement, but they're not out there literally killing people. It's made up of mostly brainwashed minorities and whiney, privileged upper middle class white kids that don't do $#@!.

Please stop going full retard with the comparisons, people.Preach Broseph.

Sent from my evil cell phone.

[resister]

You are kidding yourself if you actually believe that.
They do use arson.

[Bob the Slob]

And anyone who has actually read "Mein Kampf",( Hitler, 1924) knows that Hitler plagerized the majority of it from "The Communist Manifesto" ( Marx, Engells, etal, 1848), which was almost entirely plagerized from "The Social Contract" (Rousseau, 1762).

They are ALL the poisonous fruit of the same rotten tree.

And now we see the leftists of Antifa using the same brownshirt tactics of their ideological forefathers....

Yes, antifa is the moral equivalent of neo-Nazis


Last weekend in Berkeley, Calif., a group of neo-communist antifa — “anti-fascist” — thugs attacked peaceful protesters at a “No to Marxism in America” rally, wielding sticks and pepper spray, and beating people with homemade shields that read (I kid you not) “No Hate (https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/28/berkeley-protest-rally-stormed-by-anarchists.html).” The Post reports (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/08/28/black-clad-antifa-attack-right-wing-demonstrators-in-berkeley/?utm_term=.fcf2a9bea67e) how one peaceful protester “was attacked by five black-clad antifa members, each windmilling kicks and punches into a man desperately trying to protect himself.” Members of the Berkeley College Republicans were then stalked (https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=9656) by antifa goons who followed them to a gas station and demanded they “get the [expletive] out” of their car, warning, “We are real hungry for supremacists and there is more of us.”

The organizer of the anti-Marxism protest is not a white supremacist. Amber Cummings is a self-described “transsexual female who embraces diversity” and had announced (https://www.facebook.com/events/1356598631088305/) on Facebook that “any racist groups like the KKK [and] Neo Nazis . . . are not welcome.” The protest was needed, Cummings said (http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/08/25/whos-behind-the-mysterious-rally-in-berkeley-this-sunday/), because “Berkeley is a ground zero for the Marxist Movement.”

As if to prove Cummings’s point, the antifa movement responded with jackboots and clubs — because their definition of “fascist” includes not just neo-Nazis but also anyone who opposes their totalitarian worldview.

And let’s be clear: Totalitarian is precisely what they are. Mark Bray, a Dartmouth lecturer who has defended (https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/is-violence-ever-acceptable-in-the-face-of-hate-groups-1028526659570) antifa’s violent tactics, recently explained in The Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/made-by-history/wp/2017/08/16/who-are-the-antifa/?utm_term=.082fb0091214), “Its adherents are predominantly communists, socialists and anarchists” who believe that physical violence “is both ethically justifiable and strategically effective.” In other words, they are no different from neo-Nazis. Neo-Nazis are the violent advocates of a murderous ideology that killed 25 million people last century. Antifa members are the violent advocates of a murderous ideology that, according to “The Black Book of Communism (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0674076087/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=thewaspos09-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=0674076087&linkId=2393d86aa1495f78763ed32c57dc298b),” killed between 85 million and 100 million people last century. Both practice violence and preach hate. They are morally indistinguishable. There is no difference between those who beat innocent people in the name of the ideology that gave us Hitler and Himmler and those who beat innocent people in the name of the ideology that gave us Stalin and Dzerzhinsky.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/yes-antifa-is-the-moral-equivalent-of-neo-nazis/2017/08/30/9a13b2f6-8d00-11e7-91d5-ab4e4bb76a3a_story.html?utm_term=.6300fbc279ca

Antifa was created by the right wing....they hated the term "those who protest against us nazis." ;)

[stjames1_53]

Antifa was created by the right wing....they hated the term "those who protest against us nazis." ;)

yer a hoot..........................

[stjames1_53]

According to some of the responses here, you should have some follow up.

But the ignorance is strong in the thread from some who excuse antifa's actions.

Sent from my evil cell phone.

I suspect those who aren't condemning AntiFa are card carrying members

[stjames1_53]

Call a spade a spade.

that's racist

[stjames1_53]

I'm an American. I've never been to Japan. I have a Japanese grandfather, but I also am a direct descendant of people who fought in both the revolution and the civil war. I suspect I am more American than my Germanic friend, Cthulhu. Is ad hominem one of those mad skills you were bragging about previously?

uh, huh..........right, sure thing, buddy

[Perianne]

uh, huh..........right, sure thing, buddy
He's Lieutenant Dan!

[Crepitus]

that's racist

Lol, shovels are racist now?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_a_spade_a_spade

The phrase considerably predates the use of the word "spade" as a racist pejorative.

[stjames1_53]

He's Lieutenant Dan!
hahahahahaha

[stjames1_53]

Lol, shovels are racist now?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_a_spade_a_spade

The phrase considerably predates the use of the word "spade" as a racist pejorative.

right. and anyone else uses that phrase and you'd nail them to the cross........

[Crepitus]

right. and anyone else uses that phrase and you'd nail them to the cross........

Context matters.

[stjames1_53]

Context matters.

only to the shovel handler.............

[Dangermouse]

Been shoveled lately?
https://twitter.com/RealAliciaMayer/status/904530756722089984/photo/1
There is not and can not be moral equvalency to nazis.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DI2J2pRUwAEtsEF.jpg:large

https://twitter.com/RealAliciaMayer/status/904530756722089984/photo/1

[stjames1_53]

Been shoveled lately?
https://twitter.com/RealAliciaMayer/status/904530756722089984/photo/1
There is not and can not be moral equvalency to nazis.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DI2J2pRUwAEtsEF.jpg:large

https://twitter.com/RealAliciaMayer/status/904530756722089984/photo/1

the Nazis practiced genocide on an unparalleled level. How many cattle cars have the conservatives loaded up in the US?

[Mister D]

Been shoveled lately?
https://twitter.com/RealAliciaMayer/status/904530756722089984/photo/1
There is not and can not be moral equvalency to nazis.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DI2J2pRUwAEtsEF.jpg:large

https://twitter.com/RealAliciaMayer/status/904530756722089984/photo/1
Spare us your dogma. I would ask why there cannot be "moral equvalency to nazis" but I'm sure you don't know. Jonna Ramsey doesn't know either.

[Mister D]

Many of my contemporaries perceive Nazism as a uniquely evil phenomenon without comparison. I know that is the result of a post-war propaganda campaign but anyone familiar with 20th Century history ought to know how silly that contention is.

[Grokmaster]

Been shoveled lately?
https://twitter.com/RealAliciaMayer/status/904530756722089984/photo/1
There is not and can not be moral equvalency to nazis.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DI2J2pRUwAEtsEF.jpg:large

https://twitter.com/RealAliciaMayer/status/904530756722089984/photo/1

Except for the brownshirts of the American left. SAME TACTICS, SAME ATTITUDE.