$15 Billion Harvey Relief Bill Passed

[hanger4]

President Trump signed a bill Friday to deliver $15 billion in disaster aid and also extend government funding and the federal borrowing limit until Dec. 8, despite objections of Republican lawmakers who booed two top White House officials earlier in the day over the deal Trump struck with Democrats

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/house-set-to-vote-today-on-harvey-aid-package-that-would-also-raise-debt-ceiling/2017/09/08/728ddce8-9494-11e7-8754-d478688d23b4_story.html?utm_term=.8bb91b71dadd

Where's da pork ??

[donttread]

President Trump signed a bill Friday to deliver $15 billion in disaster aid and also extend government funding and the federal borrowing limit until Dec. 8, despite objections of Republican lawmakers who booed two top White House officials earlier in the day over the deal Trump struck with Democrats

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/house-set-to-vote-today-on-harvey-aid-package-that-would-also-raise-debt-ceiling/2017/09/08/728ddce8-9494-11e7-8754-d478688d23b4_story.html?utm_term=.8bb91b71dadd

Where's da pork ??


We experience several monster snow storms each year but we choose to live here and take care of our own. So why are states that pile houses on top of each other on hurricane coast or rebuild neighborhoods below sea level reimbursed with federal money ? Our money!
For example Florida where the residents pay ZERO state income tax. Can you imagine the disaster fund they could build with 1%?
Even northern cities get aid when hit by too much snow which is a fact of northern life.
Enjoy the benefits and beauty of your region, but pay your own way when the shit hits the fan and let FEMA play secondary support. Beyond that federal monies simply encourage these places to rebuild in harms way with no intention of footing the whole bill.

[resister]

Save the pork for Fl.

[resister]

We experience several monster snow storms each year but we choose to live here and take care of our own. So why are states that pile houses on top of each other on hurricane coast or rebuild neighborhoods below sea level reimbursed with federal money ? Our money!
For example Florida where the residents pay ZERO state income tax. Can you imagine the disaster fund they could build with 1%?
Even northern cities get aid when hit by too much snow which is a fact of northern life.
Enjoy the benefits and beauty of your region, but pay your own way when the shit hits the fan and let FEMA play secondary support. Beyond that federal monies simply encourage these places to rebuild in harms way with no intention of footing the whole bill.
We pay into the federal gov, just like everyone else. Take some of the gobs of $ we give to other countries and use it on US citizens, like the billions Obama gave Iran, the fucker!

[Common]

15billion wont cover it and fla ugh, if tampa gets hit hard that city will be in the billions, not counting the barrier islands

[MisterVeritis]

We need to buy all the low-lying lands and give it to Florida (and Texas) to turn into parks.

[Peter1469]

The GOP has a majority and they can't get anything done.

Expect Trump to use the Dems more.

[donttread]

We pay into the federal gov, just like everyone else. Take some of the gobs of $ we give to other countries and use it on US citizens, like the billions Obama gave Iran, the fucker!


You'd pay less to the feds if you had your own fund and state responsibility. More efficent to.

[Adelaide]

We experience several monster snow storms each year but we choose to live here and take care of our own. So why are states that pile houses on top of each other on hurricane coast or rebuild neighborhoods below sea level reimbursed with federal money ? Our money!
For example Florida where the residents pay ZERO state income tax. Can you imagine the disaster fund they could build with 1%?
Even northern cities get aid when hit by too much snow which is a fact of northern life.
Enjoy the benefits and beauty of your region, but pay your own way when the shit hits the fan and let FEMA play secondary support. Beyond that federal monies simply encourage these places to rebuild in harms way with no intention of footing the whole bill.

Easy to say that, but not practical. Many coastal cities have economies, including tourism and shipping and fishing and oil, that drive up the populations. They also tend to be large enough to have major universities, which draws in more people. Same with researchers and hospitals.

[donttread]

We need to buy all the low-lying lands and give it to Florida (and Texas) to turn into parks.


Except we can't afford it.

[MisterVeritis]

Except we can't afford it.
We can afford to pay one time. Not every 15 years.

[donttread]

Easy to say that, but not practical. Many coastal cities have economies, including tourism and shipping and fishing and oil, that drive up the populations. They also tend to be large enough to have major universities, which draws in more people. Same with researchers and hospitals.


Yes and we need to discourage those places being rebuilt in harms way. We no longer need cosatal cities as we once did. You can have your shipyards , your beaches , vacation cottages etc but rebuild the broken year round homes , businsses and colleges 30 miles inland. Use portable or seasonal businesses to cater to the tourist to the extent possible. Otherise it'll just keep happening. I mean what is Erma , at least the second "storm of the century " we've had in 12 years?
Also remember goverenment is inherently ineffient and for every tax dollar we send to Washington for federal disaster aid we could probably get a $1.25 ( or only spend 80 cents for what the feds charge us a dollar) worth of aid if the money was paid to the state instead of the feds and the state built bigger state disaster response teams. Part of the savings would be that the agencies would be specific to their area. No need wasting money on snow ploughs in Miami for example and the rest because the higher the level of government gets the more things cost.

[Mini Me]

Save the pork for Fl.
Save the pork, but cut the fat off of it first!

[Peter1469]

Modernize mapping and charge market rates for flood insurance. That would solve the problem.

People won't build or buy in flood plains.

[resister]

Save the pork, but cut the fat off of it first!
Hell no, put it in deer meat, lean meat sucks!

[resister]

Modernize mapping and charge market rates for flood insurance. That would solve the problem.

People won't build or buy in flood plains.
Flood insurance is all but nonexistent for the average Floridian, even here 60 miles inland and about 25 ft above sea level, storm surge will only be about 12 feet or less, 60 miles west!

[Peter1469]

Flood insurance is all but nonexistent for the average Floridian, even here 60 miles inland and about 25 ft above sea level, storm surge will only be about 12 feet or less, 60 miles west!
Why would you need flood insurance under the terms you state above?

[Tahuyaman]

The GOP has a majority and they can't get anything done.

Expect Trump to use the Dems more. The Republicans are useless.

[Peter1469]

The Republicans are useless.

Yes. They are useless fools.

[donttread]

Save the pork, but cut the fat off of it first!

Pork without fat is not very good

[resister]

Why would you need flood insurance under the terms you state above?
Because shit happens.

[donttread]

Because shit happens.

Flood insurance is fine as long as the home owner pays the full cost. Government subsidized flood insurance simiply encourages people to rebuild in vulnerable places.

[exotix]

Today


Two Months After Harvey, Coastal Texas Towns Still Desperate for Housing

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/hurricane-harvey/two-months-after-harvey-coastal-texas-towns-still-desperate-housing-n819851

Jimmy Kendrick owns a 2,300-square-foot home on a corner lot in Fulton, Texas, a small town of about 1,500 people along the coast. Hurricane Harvey hit his home hard, and now he’s confined to his living room and kitchen because the roof is leaking.


He still doesn’t have electricity in the rest of his house.

But Kendrick noted that his situation isn’t as bad compared to others in town.
“Those people who can’t afford housing at all: their mental anguish is really hard right now,” he said.

Unlike others struggling to recover in this town north of Corpus Christi, however, Kendrick is the mayor of Fulton.

The role of mayor started as a part-time job, but now Kendrick dedicates most of his waking hours to his constituents who are still unable to find housing more than two months after the storm made landfall.

That's an ongoing problem for many in this region.

After six hours of sustained 131 mph winds and gusts that peaked at 151 mph, approximately 80 percent of the buildings in Aransas County — in which Fulton sits — were damaged and 35 percent of the structures in the county were completely destroyed, according to county officials.

More than two months after the hurricane made landfall, families are still living in single motel rooms or in tents next to their destroyed homes.

For Kendrick, it's the recovery — not the storm — that has taken a toll on his mental health and marriage.


“All I got in my home is a TV that churns out bad news and a chair I watch it in,” Kendrick told NBC News.

“I walk out of my chair and my wife and I sleep on a mattress on the floor behind it.”



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[Green Arrow]

We experience several monster snow storms each year but we choose to live here and take care of our own. So why are states that pile houses on top of each other on hurricane coast or rebuild neighborhoods below sea level reimbursed with federal money ? Our money!
For example Florida where the residents pay ZERO state income tax. Can you imagine the disaster fund they could build with 1%?
Even northern cities get aid when hit by too much snow which is a fact of northern life.
Enjoy the benefits and beauty of your region, but pay your own way when the shit hits the fan and let FEMA play secondary support. Beyond that federal monies simply encourage these places to rebuild in harms way with no intention of footing the whole bill.
Your ideology is all well and good, but it doesn’t work in reality. There’s a reason the federal government helps out with disaster relief and there isn’t a single place in the country that isn’t vulnerable to some kind of natural disaster.

[resister]

Today


Two Months After Harvey, Coastal Texas Towns Still Desperate for Housing

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/hurricane-harvey/two-months-after-harvey-coastal-texas-towns-still-desperate-housing-n819851

Jimmy Kendrick owns a 2,300-square-foot home on a corner lot in Fulton, Texas, a small town of about 1,500 people along the coast. Hurricane Harvey hit his home hard, and now he’s confined to his living room and kitchen because the roof is leaking.


He still doesn’t have electricity in the rest of his house.

But Kendrick noted that his situation isn’t as bad compared to others in town.
“Those people who can’t afford housing at all: their mental anguish is really hard right now,” he said.

Unlike others struggling to recover in this town north of Corpus Christi, however, Kendrick is the mayor of Fulton.

The role of mayor started as a part-time job, but now Kendrick dedicates most of his waking hours to his constituents who are still unable to find housing more than two months after the storm made landfall.

That's an ongoing problem for many in this region.

After six hours of sustained 131 mph winds and gusts that peaked at 151 mph, approximately 80 percent of the buildings in Aransas County — in which Fulton sits — were damaged and 35 percent of the structures in the county were completely destroyed, according to county officials.

More than two months after the hurricane made landfall, families are still living in single motel rooms or in tents next to their destroyed homes.

For Kendrick, it's the recovery — not the storm — that has taken a toll on his mental health and marriage.


“All I got in my home is a TV that churns out bad news and a chair I watch it in,” Kendrick told NBC News.

“I walk out of my chair and my wife and I sleep on a mattress on the floor behind it.”



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Translation^ ? Twump, Bad!

[donttread]

Your ideology is all well and good, but it doesn’t work in reality. There’s a reason the federal government helps out with disaster relief and there isn’t a single place in the country that isn’t vulnerable to some kind of natural disaster.

Opinion based upon growing up being told you need bigdaddy.gov. What state could not handle it's own disasters if they had the money to do so currently paid to the feds. Obiously neighboring states would jump in and help and count that as their drills. And we could have FEMA as a logistics partner in a much, much smaller role.
Hell some of our states are bigger that some countries which must handle their own disasters .
Bottom line . Federal disater relief is like everything federal, inefficient and ineffective. Think aboutNO and how badly FEMA performed.