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stjames1_53
10-26-2017, 06:41 AM
Fusion GPS scandal: Clinton, DNC broke campaign finance law with dossier funding, complaint says


The revelation that Hillary Clinton’s campaign and the Democratic National Committee helped fund a salacious anti-Trump dossier last year is raising new legal questions for the Clinton team — with a watchdog group filing a formal complaint alleging they hid the payments from public view.




The Campaign Legal Center filed (http://www.campaignlegalcenter.org/document/fec-complaint-hillary-america-dnc-failure-disclose) the complaint Wednesday with the Federal Election Commission, accusing the DNC and Clinton’s campaign committee of breaking campaign finance law by failing to accurately disclose the money spent on the Trump-Russia dossier.
“Questions about who paid for this dossier are the subject of intense public interest, and this is precisely the information that FEC reports are supposed to provide,” Brendan Fischer of the Campaign Legal Center said in a statement to Fox News.




The rest here: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/26/fusion-gps-scandal-clinton-dnc-broke-campaign-finance-law-with-dossier-funding-complaint-says.html

this is NOT going to go away......................First their party is dead-assed broke, now they're running for cover...............
The democrat party is dead in the water

barb012
10-26-2017, 10:41 AM
I wonder if the public are going to witness if any of the entities involved in the Trump dossier will be punished for their corrupt activities.

Agent Zero
10-26-2017, 10:45 AM
Fusion GPS scandal: Clinton, DNC broke campaign finance law with dossier funding, complaint says



The rest here: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/26/fusion-gps-scandal-clinton-dnc-broke-campaign-finance-law-with-dossier-funding-complaint-says.html

this is NOT going to go away......................First their party is dead-assed broke, now they're running for cover...............
The democrat party is dead in the water

Did the Republican who originally contracted with them break election laws too?

Kacper
10-26-2017, 11:01 AM
Did the Republican who originally contracted with them break election laws too?
Possibly if it crossed into illegal campaign coordination.

Grokmaster
10-26-2017, 12:31 PM
Did the Republican who originally contracted with them break election laws too?

Hope so. We'd love to see the RINO roasted....

Grokmaster
10-26-2017, 12:32 PM
Meanwhile, now the DOJ has also released the Uranium One informant from his Obama Adm. gag order....and the hits just keep on coming !!!!

donttread
10-26-2017, 12:56 PM
Fusion GPS scandal: Clinton, DNC broke campaign finance law with dossier funding, complaint says



The rest here: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/26/fusion-gps-scandal-clinton-dnc-broke-campaign-finance-law-with-dossier-funding-complaint-says.html

this is NOT going to go away......................First their party is dead-assed broke, now they're running for cover...............
The democrat party is dead in the water

How about we boycott the megacorps that give the most to campaign funds and lobbying?

Grokmaster
10-26-2017, 12:59 PM
How about we boycott the megacorps that give the most to campaign funds and lobbying?

Isn't corporations; it'd be the Trial Lawyers Association, Big Labor, etc.

Tahuyaman
10-26-2017, 03:29 PM
Once Hillary Clinton was confronted with the facts, she feigned ignorance. This seems to a common theme with her. For a woman who's so intelligent and such a great manager and leader, there's always a lot of stuff she fails to know.

stjames1_53
10-26-2017, 03:33 PM
Once Hillary Clinton was confronted with the facts, she feigned ignorance.

and she will until every media device and server is destroyed

Common Sense
10-26-2017, 03:46 PM
All politicians collect dirt on their opponents.

It doesn't seem to be illegal at this point...but the attempt at diverting attention from Trump is entertaining. The simple set sure have latched onto it...

Tahuyaman
10-26-2017, 04:08 PM
All politicians collect dirt on their opponents....

Generally, they don't need to make it up though. There's a difference between collecting dirt and exposing the truth and constructing then promoting a lie.

Common Sense
10-26-2017, 04:11 PM
Generally, they don't need to make it up though. There's a difference between collecting dirt and exposing the truth and constructing then promoting a lie.
Like birtherism? Or like claiming Hillary is a murderer?


Glass houses...

Tahuyaman
10-26-2017, 04:34 PM
Like birtherism? Or like claiming Hillary is a murderer?


Glass houses...

Now you've gone into full diversion mode.

Common Sense
10-26-2017, 04:34 PM
Lol...

Tahuyaman
10-26-2017, 04:46 PM
Isn't it something how every time a liberal Democrat gets caught breaking the law, their supporters respond by saying "all sides do it" or "they did it first".

They continually justify the the corruption on the left.

Tahuyaman
10-26-2017, 04:57 PM
Do liberals even care when their politicians get caught receiving bribes to influence policy and inventing dirt on their political opponents? The ends always justifies the means.

Grokmaster
10-26-2017, 05:09 PM
All politicians collect dirt on their opponents.

It doesn't seem to be illegal at this point...but the attempt at diverting attention from Trump is entertaining. The simple set sure have latched onto it...

The Federal government being involved, via the Comey FBI (sought to, or DID pay Steele) is absolutely illegal, and the government using unverified information purchased from a foreign government to obtain FISA warrants, to surveil American citizens, is a DOUBLE FELONY.

hanger4
10-26-2017, 05:14 PM
All politicians collect dirt on their opponents.

It doesn't seem to be illegal at this point...but the attempt at diverting attention from Trump is entertaining. The simple set sure have latched onto it...

Correct, collecting dirt is not illegal, failing to accurately disclose expenditures is illegal, which is what the complaint filed is about.

Seems tis you doing the deflecting.

Agent Zero
10-26-2017, 05:23 PM
All politicians collect dirt on their opponents.

It doesn't seem to be illegal at this point...but the attempt at diverting attention from Trump is entertaining. The simple set sure have latched onto it...

It isn't illegal. What is illegal is setting up meetings with the Russians and colluding with them to put out fake news about Clinton and collecting or handing out money and favors as a result.

Agent Zero
10-26-2017, 05:23 PM
Correct, collecting dirt is not illegal, failing to accurately disclose expenditures is illegal, which is what the complaint filed is about.

Seems tis you doing the deflecting.
Except the expenditure was reported by the attorney, so you're whistling in the wind.

stjames1_53
10-26-2017, 05:33 PM
Except the expenditure was reported by the attorney, so you're whistling in the wind.
The DNC was supposed to report the charge and what it was for, not the attorney. You really should read up on things before you start your posting. Then, because he was dealing as a foreign agent, he was supposed to register as a foreign agent. He did not report himself.
Your shrillary is going to swing just enough for this. The dossier is fake, Mueller can't lay a finger on Trump, the DNC is in tatters and dead broke, you got nothing and your still mad...

nic34
10-26-2017, 05:36 PM
Isn't corporations; it'd be the Trial Lawyers Association, Big Labor, etc.

With union membership down around 10%, its not likely.

hanger4
10-26-2017, 05:52 PM
Except the expenditure was reported by the attorney, so you're whistling in the wind.

Haven't read that anywhere, have read the Clinton Campaign and DNC reported it as legal fees.

BTW Agent Zero isn't this that Russian collusion you've been looking for ?? :grin:

Agent Zero
10-26-2017, 05:57 PM
Haven't read that anywhere, have read the Clinton Campaign and DNC reported it as legal fees.

BTW @Agent Zero (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1857) isn't this that Russian collusion you've been looking for ?? :grin:
I told you before to quit mentioning me. It's becoming stalking.

Now. The law firm reported the money as "opposition research" and income received from the campaign. Legal.

Clinton didn't collude with the Russians. Trump Jr, Manafort, and many others did in the name of Trump. Neither did Clinton or her campaign break the law. "Opposition research" isn't illegal, meeting with Russians, sharing information with them, and accepting help from them to further the Trump campaign, is in fact, illegal.

You can't dispute that.

hanger4
10-26-2017, 06:05 PM
The DNC was supposed to report the charge and what it was for, not the attorney. You really should read up on things before you start your posting. Then, because he was dealing as a foreign agent, he was supposed to register as a foreign agent. He did not report himself.
Your shrillary is going to swing just enough for this. The dossier is fake, Mueller can't lay a finger on Trump, the DNC is in tatters and dead broke, you got nothing and your still mad...

"because he was dealing as a foreign agent, he was supposed to register as a foreign agent."

?? Don't know about all that ?? The lawyer would have paid Fusion, besides neither one were lobbying the Federal gov. on behalf of a foriegn agent or government.

hanger4
10-26-2017, 06:10 PM
I told you before to quit mentioning me. It's becoming stalking.

Now. The law firm reported the money as "opposition research" and income received from the campaign. Legal.

Clinton didn't collude with the Russians. Trump Jr, Manafort, and many others did in the name of Trump. Neither did Clinton or her campaign break the law. "Opposition research" isn't illegal, meeting with Russians, sharing information with them, and accepting help from them to further the Trump campaign, is in fact, illegal.

You can't dispute that.

Sure I can, there is no evidence of collusion.

Tahuyaman
10-26-2017, 06:15 PM
Haven't read that anywhere, have read the Clinton Campaign and DNC reported it as legal fees.

BTW @Agent Zero (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1857) isn't this that Russian collusion you've been looking for ?? :grin:

That's because they didn't. They couldn't. They spent the last years or so denying that they knew anything about it. Now they have been forced to do a 180 on that.


It's funny watching the usual suspects try to justify blatant corruption.

hanger4
10-26-2017, 06:20 PM
I told you before to quit mentioning me. It's becoming stalking.

Now. The law firm reported the money as "opposition research" and income received from the campaign. Legal.

Clinton didn't collude with the Russians. Trump Jr, Manafort, and many others did in the name of Trump. Neither did Clinton or her campaign break the law. "Opposition research" isn't illegal, meeting with Russians, sharing information with them, and accepting help from them to further the Trump campaign, is in fact, illegal.

You can't dispute that.

Yes the law firm admitted to hiring Fusion The law firm also said;

"A spokesperson for a law firm said on Tuesday that it had hired Washington-based researchers last year to gather damaging information about Mr. Trump on numerous subjects — including possible ties to Russia — on behalf of the Clinton campaign and the D.N.C."

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/10/24/us/politics/clinton-dnc-russia-dossier.html

That "on behalf of the Clinton campaign and the D.N.C" might be a problem.

Captdon
10-26-2017, 06:55 PM
All politicians collect dirt on their opponents.

It doesn't seem to be illegal at this point...but the attempt at diverting attention from Trump is entertaining. The simple set sure have latched onto it...

Using a false dossier as a reason to get a FISA warrant is certainly illegal. It's abuse of power at the very least.

Captdon
10-26-2017, 06:56 PM
Like birtherism? Or like claiming Hillary is a murderer?


Glass houses...

Trump didn't spy on her using those excuses. One is a crime and the rest isn't.

Grokmaster
10-26-2017, 06:58 PM
It's illegal to have US citizens as primary targets of FISA warrants no matter what....

Tahuyaman
10-26-2017, 07:06 PM
Nothing is illegal when a Clinton is involved.

Tahuyaman
10-27-2017, 12:56 AM
The media has mostly gone into "radio silence" mode on the Russian collusion thingy. I wonder why?

Bethere
10-27-2017, 01:18 AM
Isn't it something how every time a liberal Democrat gets caught breaking the law, their supporters respond by saying "all sides do it" or "they did it first".

They continually justify the the corruption on the left.

What law was broken? They paid him for his services. If those services were in kind contributions they'd be against the law.

Tahuyaman
10-27-2017, 01:43 AM
What law was broken? They paid him for his services. If those services were in kind contributions they'd be against the law.
They received money from a foreign source to fund a campaign.

Is there any corruptiion or illegal conduct you won't excuse? Do you have the courage to call
out blatant lies?

Bethere
10-27-2017, 04:37 AM
They received money from a foreign source to fund a campaign.

Is there any corruptiion or illegal conduct you won't excuse? Do you have the courage to call
out blatant lies?

Link?

Common
10-27-2017, 06:05 AM
Link?
This is just one illegal aspect of it theres more


The Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Hillary Clinton’s campaign violated campaign finance laws by failing to accurately disclose payments related to the so-called Trump Dossier, the non-partisan Campaign Legal Center said in a complaint filed today with the Federal Election Commission.
According to a recent reports in the media, Marc Elias, who also served as the Clinton campaign lawyer, paid opposition research firm Fusion GPS to produce the dossier which exposed alleged connections between Donald Trump and Russia government. It also contained salacious allegations about Trump’s personal escapades. According to reports, the Hillary for America campaign paid for the research but routed the payments through Elias’ law firm Perkins Coie and described the purpose of the money as “legal services” on their FEC disclosures. The DNC and the Clinton campaign reported dozens of payments totaling more that $12 million dollars to Perkins Coie over the course of the campaign.
“By filing misleading reports, the DNC and Clinton campaign undermined the vital public information role of campaign disclosures,” said Adav Noti, with the Campaign Legal Center in a statement obtained by LawNewz. Noti previously served as the FEC’s Associate General Counsel for Policy. “Voters need campaign disclosure laws to be enforced so they can hold candidates accountable for how they raise and spend money. The FEC must investigate this apparent violation and take appropriate action.”
According to FEC reports, Clinton’s campaign reported 37 payments to the law firm and reported each disbursement as “Legal Services.” The DNC reported 345 payments to Perkins Coie during the election cycle and marked the payments as “legal and compliance consulting,” “administrative fees,” “data services subscription” and others.
[…]
It is legal under current campaign finance law for the Hillary Clinton campaign to commission an opposition research company to dig up dirt on Donald Trump. What is not legal, according to campaign legal experts, is for the campaign to pay a law firm who then hires other to perform campaign related activities without reporting the purpose of the expenditures.
If the FEC finds that there was a violation, the DNC and the Clinton campaign could face fines. The fines could be higher if the FEC finds that they intentionally mislead the public.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2017/10/26/legal-organization-no-hillary-campaign-you-cant-mask-funding-of-trump-dossier-n2400512

Tahuyaman
10-27-2017, 10:25 AM
Link?


Are you serious? You need a link to show that the Clinton campaign received funding from a foreign source? You've gone beyond being just a partisan hack.