Bad news for beer drinkers

[Dr. Who]

Boys, if you’re a big fan of beer, we’ve got bad news for you.

The hops used in your favorite drink could be giving you man boobs.

That’s because hops contain a high amount of phytoestrogen — a plant-derived chemical that is similar to the female sex hormone estrogen.

Got your attention yet?

Several studies have shown that these tasty little hops can have an estrogenic effect on a man’s body.

To put it another way, it boosts the levels of female sex hormones in your body.

The plants are commonly used as an herbal remedy for menopause (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/3370207/menopause-signs-symptoms-treatments-when/) for the same reason.

It is thought to help reduce hot flashes, night sweats, mood swings, vaginal dryness and other symptoms that come with menopause. It’s like an herbal hormone replacement therapy (https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/2880840/bbc-presenter-kirsty-wark-endured-a-hard-menopause-after-ditching-hrt-over-cancer-fears/).

But in men, increased levels of estrogen can result in man boobs.
http://nypost.com/2017/10/26/beer-consumption-linked-to-man-boob-growth/

Perhaps there will be a market for the "manzier".

[Tahuyaman]

Not all beer has hops as an ingredient.

[Captain Obvious]

Not all beer has hops as an ingredient.

Then it's not beer

[Common]

Not all beer has hops as an ingredient.
I dont know a single major brand that doesnt, which ones do not ?

[resister]

I doubt this news will have much effect. I have drunken massive amounts of beer in my 37 years, no big boobs, yet.

I suppose this could be "science" put out by the liquor industry? :)

[Captain Obvious]

I doubt this news will have much effect. I have drunken massive amounts of beer in my 37 years, no big boobs, yet.

I suppose this could be "science" put out by the liquor industry? :)

The only thing nasty lite is going to give you is a swollen bladder.

:biglaugh:

[resister]

The only thing nasty lite is going to give you is a swollen bladder.

:biglaugh:
Or liver, if you stay a lush, too long!

I tease a friend my age, he has to drain the main after every, 12 ounce beer. I dub thee, thimble bladder!

[nathanbforrest45]

http://www.dummies.com/food-drink/drinks/beer/the-main-ingredients-of-beer/

[nathanbforrest45]

Or liver, if you stay a lush, too long!

I tease a friend my age, he has to drain the main after every, 12 ounce beer. I dub thee, thimble bladder!


I am a member of the pistol club
Drink til two
Pistol dawn

[Tahuyaman]

I dont know a single major brand that doesnt, which ones do not ?

Are you an authority on beer? Most major brands like Miller, Budweiser, Coors and such are swill. They aren't worthy of being called beer.

[Captain Obvious]

I am a member of the pistol club
Drink til two
Pistol dawn

That was a saying at a shot and beer bar I used to hang out in - "This beer must be defective, drink one, piss two"

[nathanbforrest45]

Actually, there are beers made without hops but they use substitutes like juniper berries (the flavoring in gin) Spruce tips is another and certain other flowers to flavor the beer. All are called something different from "beer" as we know it. True beer however is made with hops. Anything else is something to be drunk by guys with man buns and women who wear "wife beater" tea shirts.

[Dr. Who]

I doubt this news will have much effect. I have drunken massive amounts of beer in my 37 years, no big boobs, yet.

I suppose this could be "science" put out by the liquor industry? :)
Your bike riding and fossil hunting is probably offsetting your weight gain. Then again you are not yet 40. LOL.

[resister]

Your bike riding and fossil hunting is probably offsetting your weight gain. Then again you are not yet 40. LOL.

Be that as it may, does physical activity offset the estrogen, element?

[Tahuyaman]

Hops are not a necessary ingredient for beer. Many outstanding beers don't use hops. It doesn't need to have hops to be beer.

[Dr. Who]

Be that as it may, does physical activity offset the estrogen, element?
Staying thin helps. Breast tissue in women is mostly comprised of fat. If you gain weight, you don't want it depositing in the breast area if you are a guy. That's what the hormones do.

[resister]

Staying thin helps. Breast tissue in women is mostly comprised of fat. If you gain weight, you don't want it depositing in the breast area if you are a guy. That's what the hormones do.
I have a beer gut and average man boobs for my size, 6'1 180#

[Dr. Who]

I have a beer gut and average man boobs for my size, 6'1 180#
Is your gut anything like the picture in the link?

[resister]

Is your gut anything like the picture in the link?

20678 Hope not! :shocked:

[AZ Jim]

Hops are not a necessary ingredient for beer. Many outstanding beers don't use hops. It doesn't need to have hops to be beer.Name a few.

[Captain Obvious]

Name a few.

There's the stuff brewed by Siamese mute monks on a remote island made from the urine of virgin girls and arrowroot.

[Dr. Who]

20678 Hope not! :shocked:

Clearly not. After you hit 40 it might be a little harder to keep it off since your metabolism will slow down.

[resister]

Clearly not. After you hit 40 it might be a little harder to keep it off since your metabolism will slow down.
I will always ride my bike and slow down on beer, I realize I will not get away with copious amounts, forever.

[Private Pickle]

Boys, if you’re a big fan of beer, we’ve got bad news for you.

The hops used in your favorite drink could be giving you man boobs.

That’s because hops contain a high amount of phytoestrogen — a plant-derived chemical that is similar to the female sex hormone estrogen.

Got your attention yet?

Several studies have shown that these tasty little hops can have an estrogenic effect on a man’s body.

To put it another way, it boosts the levels of female sex hormones in your body.

The plants are commonly used as an herbal remedy for menopause (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/3370207/menopause-signs-symptoms-treatments-when/) for the same reason.

It is thought to help reduce hot flashes, night sweats, mood swings, vaginal dryness and other symptoms that come with menopause. It’s like an herbal hormone replacement therapy (https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/2880840/bbc-presenter-kirsty-wark-endured-a-hard-menopause-after-ditching-hrt-over-cancer-fears/).

But in men, increased levels of estrogen can result in man boobs.
http://nypost.com/2017/10/26/beer-consumption-linked-to-man-boob-growth/

Perhaps there will be a market for the "manzier".





Meh...worth it...

[Tahuyaman]

Name a few.

Several Brown Ale's have no hops. Before you say an ale is not a beer, ale is a style of beer.

[Tahuyaman]

There's the stuff brewed by Siamese mute monks on a remote island made from the urine of virgin girls and arrowroot.


What is your attachment to hops in beer?

[Private Pickle]

There's the stuff brewed by Siamese mute monks on a remote island made from the urine of virgin girls and arrowroot.
Booking my ticket to Siam right now.

[silvereyes]

Booking my ticket to Siam right now.

Naughty, naughty.
:)

[Private Pickle]

Naughty, naughty.
:)

What? I like arrowroot.

[silvereyes]

What? I like arrowroot.

Yah, and you read Playboy for the "stimulating" articles that are "hard" to dismiss, right?
:laughing7:

[Private Pickle]

Yah, and you read Playboy for the "stimulating" articles that are "hard" to dismiss, right?
:laughing7:

Not anymore since they went from chick to dick.

[Tahuyaman]

Not anymore since they went from chick to dick.

what?

[Private Pickle]

what?
You missed the whole Tranny spread they published?

[silvereyes]

You missed the whole Tranny spread they published?

"Tranny spread."

Pun intended?
:biglaugh:

[Private Pickle]

"Tranny spread."

Pun intended?
:biglaugh:

Nah...that sounds more like a necessary lubricant for tranny sex.

[Captain Obvious]

You missed the whole Tranny spread they published?
http://cf.chucklesnetwork.com/items/1/2/7/1/0/6/original/gets-girl-of-his-dreams-transvestite.jpg

[leekohler2]

Or liver, if you stay a lush, too long!

I tease a friend my age, he has to drain the main after every, 12 ounce beer. I dub thee, thimble bladder!

That was hilarious. :D

[jimmyz]

I doubt this news will have much effect. I have drunken massive amounts of beer in my 37 years, no big boobs, yet.

I suppose this could be "science" put out by the liquor industry? :)
Let us know what bra size you are at 50.

Man-boobs need a torso Spanx market.

[jimmyz]

20678 Hope not! :shocked:

Your left breast is larger than your right. A common occurrence with women. No insult intended and NO... I will not post a topless picture of me.

[silvereyes]

Let us know what bra size you are at 50.

Man-boobs need a torso Spanx market.

Fucking visuals, man! We can well do without those! Okies?

[silvereyes]

Your left breast is larger than your right. A common occurrence with women. No insult intended and NO... I will not post a topless picture of me.

Chicken.....

[resister]

Your left breast is larger than your right. A common occurrence with women. No insult intended and NO... I will not post a topless picture of me.
I shored that up, by lifting my fossil scraper, 50 times today, but then I did some 16 ounce, curls to even it out! :)

[jimmyz]

Chicken.....

Damn right. Bethere would murder me and make me a quivering mound of jello in the tPF clubhouse needing therapy. The only help would be Leekholer telling me that people are people and that I am loved. Until I hunted down Bethere with a contract issued to Cletus to take my revenge.

[resister]

Damn right. Bethere would murder me and make me a quivering mound of jello in the tPF clubhouse needing therapy. The only help would be Leekholer telling me that people are people and that I am loved. Until I hunted down Bethere with a contract issued to Cletus to take my revenge.
In my defense, my left boob looks bigger, because my shoulders are angled! If I knew I was going to post that, I would of bowed up, and stuff!

[silvereyes]

Damn right. Bethere would murder me and make me a quivering mound of jello in the tPF clubhouse needing therapy. The only help would be Leekholer telling me that people are people and that I am loved. Until I hunted down Bethere with a contract issued to Cletus to take my revenge.

Lmao!!!

[silvereyes]

In my defense, my left boob looks bigger, because my shoulders are angled! If I knew I was going to post that, I would of bowed up, and stuff!

Could we please leave the "and stuff" out? These guys will turn it into god knows what. O.o

[jimmyz]

In my defense, my left boob looks bigger, because my shoulders are angled! If I knew I was going to post that, I would of bowed up, and stuff!

Pay no never mind brother. You and Leek are the only ones with the nuts to post your pictures on tPF. You are a normally shaped red-blooded good dude. I meant no insult man.

[silvereyes]

Pay no never mind brother. You and Leek are the only ones with the nuts to post your pictures on tPF. You are a normally shaped red-blooded good dude. I meant no insult man.

That's not true. I posted my picture here before.

[resister]

That's not true. I posted my picture here before.
Yes you did, did you see my reply?

[silvereyes]

Yes you did, did you see my reply?

No. When?

Wait. I pmmed it to you, didn't I?

Great. Now these guys are going to think I sent you a naughty one.

[resister]

No. When?

Wait. I pmmed it to you, didn't I?

Great. Now these guys are going to think I sent you a naughty one.
I believe it was a wedding pic where you called your (sister?) beautiful? I said "you are both beautiful people and don't let anyone, tell you different"

[silvereyes]

I believe it was a wedding pic where you called your (sister?) beautiful? I said "you are both beautiful people and don't let anyone, tell you different"

Oh yah. My beautiful baby sisters wedding picture. :)

[silvereyes]

20686
My big newborn.

[Tahuyaman]

You missed the whole Tranny spread they published?

You're kidding, right?

[Tahuyaman]

Good gawd! We really could use less visuals here.

[jimmyz]

20684
That's me. I'm old.

I will say it again... your eyes stare death straight through me. Your exes must be in witness protection.

[resister]

20684
That's me. I'm old.
What is wrong with "old" ? If you are fortunate, you get that way.

[jimmyz]

20686
My big newborn.

Cute baby

[silvereyes]

I will say it again... your eyes stare death straight through me. Your exes must be in witness protection.

Lol. There wasn't anything left of them to put into WP.

[Tahuyaman]

I will say it again... your eyes stare death straight through me. Your exes must be in witness protection.

I'm sure they are staying as far away as possible and hoping to keep their location a secret.

[silvereyes]

*sigh*

Then we have the hater show up to ruin everything.

Ugh.

[jimmyz]

I'm sure they are staying as far away as possible and hoping to keep their location a secret.

Silvereyes definitely looks like she means business.

[jimmyz]

*sigh*

Then we have the hater show up to ruin everything.

Ugh.

Nah Taly is joining in. No worries.

Edit: I mean Tahu.... what the Frig does your handle mean dude?

[Tahuyaman]

Silvereyes definitely looks like she means business.

what kind of business?

[Tahuyaman]

*sigh*

Then we have the hater show up to ruin everything.

Ugh.

Everything was cool until you showed up.

[jimmyz]

what kind of business?

I dont know... but she does live under a tin roof. Rusted!

[Private Pickle]

You're kidding, right?
I wish...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.nytimes.com/2017/10/19/arts/playboy-playmate-transgender.amp.html

[silvereyes]

:shakeshead::shakeshead::shakeshead:
Yah, I know better.

[silvereyes]

Everything was cool until you showed up.

Dude, seriously...leave me the fuck alone.

[Tahuyaman]

I wish...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.nytimes.com/2017/10/19/arts/playboy-playmate-transgender.amp.html


I trust you. I'm not going to check that out. I've seen enough tonight that you can't unsee.

[silvereyes]

What is wrong with "old" ? If you are fortunate, you get that way.

True. Lol

[jimmyz]

I trust you. I'm not going to check that out. I've seen enough tonight that you can't unsee.

You misconstrue you hatred of Silvereyes for polite banter on an uneventful night in a cordial thread on the internet. I wish I could throw you some excellent agave tequila right about now.

[Tahuyaman]

You misconstrue you hatred of Silvereyes for polite banter on an uneventful night in a cordial thread on the internet. I wish I could throw you some excellent agave tequila right about now.


What a coincidence. I just opened a bottle of El Gran Viejo. It's a very smooth anejo.

[jimmyz]

What a coincidence. I just opened a bottle of El Gran Viejo. It's a very smooth anejo.

Thank you for the lead...dont watch Kill Bill Vol. 2

[jimmyz]

True. Lol

I always refer to myself as vine-ripened. It confuses many. lol

they invariably ask what value vine-ripened is worth. I tell them a welfare check and food stamp card to test them.

[Bethere]

Boys, if you’re a big fan of beer, we’ve got bad news for you.

The hops used in your favorite drink could be giving you man boobs.

That’s because hops contain a high amount of phytoestrogen — a plant-derived chemical that is similar to the female sex hormone estrogen.

Got your attention yet?

Several studies have shown that these tasty little hops can have an estrogenic effect on a man’s body.

To put it another way, it boosts the levels of female sex hormones in your body.

The plants are commonly used as an herbal remedy for menopause (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/3370207/menopause-signs-symptoms-treatments-when/) for the same reason.

It is thought to help reduce hot flashes, night sweats, mood swings, vaginal dryness and other symptoms that come with menopause. It’s like an herbal hormone replacement therapy (https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/2880840/bbc-presenter-kirsty-wark-endured-a-hard-menopause-after-ditching-hrt-over-cancer-fears/).

But in men, increased levels of estrogen can result in man boobs.
http://nypost.com/2017/10/26/beer-consumption-linked-to-man-boob-growth/

Perhaps there will be a market for the "manzier".






Pot has a similar effect.

[Tahuyaman]

Thank you for the lead...dont watch Kill Bill Vol. 2
I didn't watch vol 1. I have no intention to watch vol 2.

Still if you can find it north of the border, you need to try the El Gran Viejo. It's not the priciest anejo out there, but it's one of the best.

[Bethere]

Nah Taly is joining in. No worries.

Edit: I mean Tahu.... what the Frig does your handle mean dude?

He lives in Tahuya, man.

[jimmyz]

I didn't watch vol 1. I have no intention to watch vol 2.

Still if you can find it north of the border, you need to try the El Gran Viejo. It's not the priciest anejo out there, but it's one of the best.

Thanks for the lead my friend. You aught to know being on the ground down there.

[jimmyz]

He lives in Tahuya, man.

I am catching on. We need more OPs recommending good spirits IMO.

[Bethere]

I am catching on. We need more OPs recommending good spirits IMO.

My girl got her master's degree at purdue. We, ahem, drink a lot of boilermakers.

[Tahuyaman]

He lives in Tahuya, man.

The 18th of November I'm heading back to Mexico for the next five or six months. This might be the last year I winter in Mexico.

Actually I live in Bremerton, but I was raised in Tahuya. I still have a little patch of land there I share with my brother. We use it for a place to get away with our RV's.

[jimmyz]

The 18th of November I'm heading back to Mexico for the next five or six months. This might be the last year I winter in Mexico.

Actually I live in Bremerton, but I was raised in Tahuya. I still have a little patch of land there I share with my brother. We use it for a place to get away with our RV's.

Are you giving up on Mexico for a reason?

[Tahuyaman]

I am catching on. We need more OPs recommending good spirits IMO.

If you are wanting to try some good tequila that you can get just about anywhere in the US, go with Don Julio. Don Julio anejo is very good. There's nothing bad about Don Julio. In fact some of my Mexican friends think it's the best.

Dont be a dink and mix an anejo.

[Tahuyaman]

Are you giving up on Mexico for a reason?


Yes.

A year ago I bought a new RV. I have family who live in Florida. I want to spend some time wintering in the southern US for a while. I want to take a few months and make my way their direction.


I'm not going to sell my condo in Mexico. I'll rent it out as a vacation place.

[resister]

Yes.

A year ago I bought a new RV. I have family who live in Florida. I want to spend some time wintering in the southern US for a while. I want to take a few months and make my way their direction.


I'm not going to sell my condo in Mexico. I'll rent it out as a vacation place.
Winter and early to late spring is fossil season, if you ever find yourself around here..

[jimmyz]

If you are wanting to try some good tequila that you can get just about anywhere in the US, go with Don Julio. Don Julio anejo is very good. There's nothing bad about Don Julio. In fact some of my Mexican friends think it's the best.

Dont be a dink and mix an anejo.

Never. The only thing between me and Tequila is a glass. Than you for your advice sir.

[Tahuyaman]

Winter and early to late spring is fossil season, if you ever find yourself around here..


I'm kind of a rock hound, but not so much fossils.

[Tahuyaman]

Never. The only thing between me and Tequila is a glass. Than you for your advice sir.

Patron is the most overrated tequila out there. Sauza 100% agave tequilas are the most underrated.

[Cannons Front]

Then it's not beer
There are four basic ingredients to beer, but only three are essential: malted barley, yeast and water. However, beer made with only these three will be sickly-sweet and dull. Throughout brewing history, brewers have added something extra—usually a plant part of some sort—to give their beer balance and depth. Generally Hops make up the 4th ingredient however there are others.
Samuel Adams Double Bock is the biggest none hop beer that I know of, there are many craft beers and local brews that do not. A small sample http://beeradvocate.com/beer/style/8

[Common]

I was never a heavy duty beer drinker, I had an occaisional beer now and then. There was a short period in my life where a bottle of scotch was my release. I got into the stop for one after work to having alot more. Mine was stress driven and instead of handling it like a man I started hitting the bar. Anyway my wife straightened me right out. She said STOP or you will come home one night and I will be gone and I will NOT come back, that was enough for me to stop.

[donttread]

Boys, if you’re a big fan of beer, we’ve got bad news for you.

The hops used in your favorite drink could be giving you man boobs.

That’s because hops contain a high amount of phytoestrogen — a plant-derived chemical that is similar to the female sex hormone estrogen.

Got your attention yet?

Several studies have shown that these tasty little hops can have an estrogenic effect on a man’s body.

To put it another way, it boosts the levels of female sex hormones in your body.

The plants are commonly used as an herbal remedy for menopause (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/3370207/menopause-signs-symptoms-treatments-when/) for the same reason.

It is thought to help reduce hot flashes, night sweats, mood swings, vaginal dryness and other symptoms that come with menopause. It’s like an herbal hormone replacement therapy (https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/2880840/bbc-presenter-kirsty-wark-endured-a-hard-menopause-after-ditching-hrt-over-cancer-fears/).

But in men, increased levels of estrogen can result in man boobs.
http://nypost.com/2017/10/26/beer-consumption-linked-to-man-boob-growth/

Perhaps there will be a market for the "manzier".







They'll go with the typical "beer guys " belly

[Hoosier8]

Boys, if you’re a big fan of beer, we’ve got bad news for you.

The hops used in your favorite drink could be giving you man boobs.

That’s because hops contain a high amount of phytoestrogen — a plant-derived chemical that is similar to the female sex hormone estrogen.

Got your attention yet?

Several studies have shown that these tasty little hops can have an estrogenic effect on a man’s body.

To put it another way, it boosts the levels of female sex hormones in your body.

The plants are commonly used as an herbal remedy for menopause (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/3370207/menopause-signs-symptoms-treatments-when/) for the same reason.

It is thought to help reduce hot flashes, night sweats, mood swings, vaginal dryness and other symptoms that come with menopause. It’s like an herbal hormone replacement therapy (https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/2880840/bbc-presenter-kirsty-wark-endured-a-hard-menopause-after-ditching-hrt-over-cancer-fears/).

But in men, increased levels of estrogen can result in man boobs.
http://nypost.com/2017/10/26/beer-consumption-linked-to-man-boob-growth/

Perhaps there will be a market for the "manzier".






Woo Hoo, a beer bra! Most men need a one cup for the basketball belly.

[Mini Me]

Then it's not beer


I still get hopped up on HOPIUM!
I gave up beer as a young man, when I grew bitch tits!
I switched to Coors Beer, as its made with rice,
but eventually found solace in the hard stuff-teqilla and vodka!
I quit booze about 10 years ago, after my first heart attack, pot and coke too.
I never regretted that!

[Mini Me]

Or liver, if you stay a lush, too long!

I tease a friend my age, he has to drain the main after every, 12 ounce beer. I dub thee, thimble bladder!
I may have over-indulged in alcohol for too long.
I have been diagnosed with a fatty liver, among many other things.Even tho I haven't drank in years.
But these Dr.s and P.A.s pull some of the wierdest crap for diagnoses;

Said I was pre-diabetic one time-WRONG!
Said I had emphesema =WRONG!
Said I had Chlamydia-WRONG!
A cardio said I needed open heart surgery-WRONG!

Foe them si say these things without tests to back them up is malpractice in my mind!
And many meds prescribed for me I found out could kill me or were harmfull!

[Mini Me]

Be that as it may, does physical activity offset the estrogen, element?
Definitly! I used to be a gym rat and pumped iron for years.That's why lifters take roids, to get even more testesterone. It builds muscle and breaks down fat!

[Mini Me]

There's the stuff brewed by Siamese mute monks on a remote island made from the urine of virgin girls and arrowroot.

So the mute Monks aren't talking, eh? They best not, or they could be brought up on charges!:grin:

[donttread]

I was never a heavy duty beer drinker, I had an occaisional beer now and then. There was a short period in my life where a bottle of scotch was my release. I got into the stop for one after work to having alot more. Mine was stress driven and instead of handling it like a man I started hitting the bar. Anyway my wife straightened me right out. She said STOP or you will come home one night and I will be gone and I will NOT come back, that was enough for me to stop.

Good for you. It took a lot more for me to stop but I did. In your case giving up booze saved money while ex-wives do not do that! Neither do new wives. LOL. If you switch from beer because you are needing to drink so much beer to get drunk that you're pissing all the time: Well that's what we call tolerance and in this case tolerance ain't a good thing