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Crepitus
11-02-2017, 06:29 PM
Trump is running the most corrupt administration in US history (https://www.google.com/amp/www.newsweek.com/2017/11/10/trump-administration-most-corrupt-history-698935.html%3famp=1).


according to the presidential historian Robert Dallek, no American leader has acted with more unadulterated self-interest as Trump. Dallek says that in terms of outright corruption, Trump is worse than both Ulysses S. Grant and Warren G. Harding, presidents who oversaw the most flagrant instances of graft in American political history. Grant’s stellar reputation as a Civil War general is tarnished in part by the Whiskey Ring scandal, in which Treasury Department officials stole taxes from alcohol distillers; members of Harding’s administration plundered oil reserves in Teapot Dome, a rock outcropping in Wyoming that has lent its name to the most notorious example of government corruption in American political history. In both cases, the fault of the president was in his lack of oversight. As far as Dallek is concerned, something more nefarious is at work in the White House of Donald Trump.

“What makes this different,” Dallek says, “is that the president can’t seem to speak the truth about a host of things.” Trump isn’t just allowing corruption, in Dallek’s view, but encouraging it. "The fish rots from the head," he reminds.

That darn swamp is deeper than ever, and it smells like republicans.

Read the rest at the link.

Brett Nortje
11-02-2017, 07:47 PM
Trump is running the most corrupt administration in US history (https://www.google.com/amp/www.newsweek.com/2017/11/10/trump-administration-most-corrupt-history-698935.html%3famp=1).



That darn swamp is deeper than ever, and it smells like republicans.

Read the rest at the link.
The corruption you speak of comes about by the whole party coming to trump behind the scenes and telling him what to do, or face lack of support. This would be along the lines of them threatening him with a scandal of sorts, or worse, and then he must cede to people that the other party has put in place. It is a messy thing the American or western scheme, where the influence brought about by various people will affect others - they fight for key positions to influence each other. With the Obama administration, they never controlled the senate, but now they do since the last election, where they took control of the house, and, can influence the inner workings of the whole house with key individuals.

It is so easy to say something bad about Trump that it is just a case of telling him what to do or they will go to the media and scandalize him! This would be where he is walking on tip toes because he is afraid of upsetting anyone. This is evident in his stressful related outbursts, where he always comes down hard on people, viewing twitter as his only outlet to the world. This would see him getting stressed and then saying these harsh things, of course - evidence of stress, not incompetence!

Chris
11-02-2017, 08:03 PM
This seems to be the key point of the OP article: "An allegation of corruption is, of course, not proof that corruption took place, but when has the American body politic ever awaited certitude before passing judgment?"

Crepitus
11-02-2017, 08:36 PM
This seems to be the key point of the OP article: "An allegation of corruption is, of course, not proof that corruption took place, but when has the American body politic ever awaited certitude before passing judgment?"

That is one of many points in the linked text, and certainly not more "key" than any other.

Chris
11-02-2017, 08:58 PM
That is one of many points in the linked text, and certainly not more "key" than any other.

Seemed to me to be. After all, all the corruption in Trump is alleged.

Crepitus
11-02-2017, 09:35 PM
Seemed to me to be. After all, all the corruption in Trump is alleged.

Not so, there are many instances in the link.

Dr. Who
11-03-2017, 02:06 AM
This seems to be the key point of the OP article: "An allegation of corruption is, of course, not proof that corruption took place, but when has the American body politic ever awaited certitude before passing judgment?"


In June, a liberal super PAC called American Bridge 21st Century found 74 lobbyists working in the administration, 49 of them in agencies they once lobbied on behalf of clients. The new deputy administrator of the EPA, for example, is former coal lobbyist Andrew R. Wheeler.

I think this is verifiable evidence on its own, that there is an ethical vacuum in the Whitehouse. How do you allow any lobbyists of any kind into government positions where they can be serving corporate interests?

Yet so long as he panders to the paranoid issues that the public has been brainwashed to think are important, he can turn over the reins of the nation to globalist interests and nobody who voted for him cares that their lives will be far more impacted by those decisions. He's been systematically putting the foxes in charge of the henhouse. When his supporters finally realize that they have been sold down the corporate river and industrial waste is bubbling up on their properties, their drinking water full of chemicals and they are choking on pollution, they will be looking for someone to blame. When those repatriated companies come home but don't really employ any people, they will be dumbfounded.