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Grokmaster
11-14-2017, 08:07 PM
It's about time; and then let's go ahead and look into the DNC/Clinton campaign's hiring of a law firm to PAY A FOREIGN AGENT to PAY RUSSIAN OFFICIALS TO ASSAIL A POLITICAL OPPONENT, after lying about any involvement in it for over a year....shall we?

As well as the apparent use of the created FOREIGN CLAIMS to acquire FISA WARRANTS on American citizens...



Jeff Sessions raises prospect of special counsel on Republican concerns

U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions is leaving open the possibility that a special counsel could be appointed to look into Clinton Foundation dealings and an Obama-era uranium deal, the Justice Department said Monday.

In a letter to the House Judiciary Committee, which is holding an oversight hearing Tuesday, the Justice Department said Sessions had directed senior federal prosecutors to "evaluate certain issues" recently raised by Republican lawmakers.

The prosecutors will report to Sessions and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and recommend whether any new investigations should be opened, whether any matters currently under investigation require additional resources and whether it might be necessary to appoint a special counsel to oversee a probe, according to a letter sent to Rep. Robert Goodlatte of Virginia, the Judiciary Committee's Republican chairman.


The letter from Assistant Attorney General Stephen Boyd did not say what specific steps might be taken by the Justice Department to address the lawmakers' concerns, or whether any of the matters Republicans have seized on might already be under investigation.

Any appointment of a new special counsel, particularly in response to calls from members of Congress, is likely to lead to Democratic complaints about an undue political influence on the department's decision-making. But Boyd said in the letter that the department "will never evaluate any matter except on the facts and the law."

Some have specifically said they want to know more about whether Obama's Department of Justice was investigating the purchase of Canadian mining company Uranium One by Rosatom, Russia's state-owned nuclear company, in 2010. The agreement was reached while Clinton led the State Department and some investors in the company had relationships with former president Bill Clinton and had donated large sums to the Clinton Foundation.





http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/sessions-special-counsel-clinton-1.4400963

exotix
11-14-2017, 08:17 PM
Good Luck with that ... LOL



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AooOsZx8HVM

ripmeister
11-14-2017, 08:17 PM
My recommendation to anyon who may come under this investigation is that they reply to all questions with "I don't recall".

Crepitus
11-14-2017, 08:19 PM
Umm, just today on Capitol Hill he said there wasn't enough to warrent a special counsel.

Sorry to disappoint you.

exotix
11-14-2017, 08:20 PM
My recommendation to anyon who may come under this investigation is that they reply to all questions with "I don't recall".LOL


Jeff Sessions: ‘I Have No Idea’ How Many Times I’ve Said I Can’t Recall Things

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/jeff-sessions-i-have-no-idea-how-many-times-ive-said-i-cant-recall-things/


Before Today where he stated "I Don't recall" about 20 times ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGLQ7vtXheE

ripmeister
11-14-2017, 08:26 PM
LOL


Jeff Sessions: ‘I Have No Idea’ How Many Times I’ve Said I Can’t Recall Things

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/jeff-sessions-i-have-no-idea-how-many-times-ive-said-i-cant-recall-things/


Before Today where he stated "I Don't recall" about 20 times ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGLQ7vtXheE

For someone who can't recall this much he's either a liar or incompetent.

Tahuyaman
11-14-2017, 08:37 PM
Jeff Sessions raises prospect of special counsel on Uranium One deal

A special counsel should be appointed. If he refuses to do so he should be fired.

exotix
11-14-2017, 08:41 PM
Jeff Sessions raises prospect of special counsel on Uranium One deal

A special counsel should be appointed. If he refuses to do so he should be fired.

Yes ?

Explain how all that works.

Green Arrow
11-14-2017, 08:43 PM
Jeff Sessions raises prospect of special counsel on Uranium One deal



A special counsel should be appointed. If he refuses to do so he should be fired.



Yes, because that's how our justice system works. Fire anyone in charge who doesn't pursue politically-motivated investigations until you find someone who will.

ripmeister
11-14-2017, 08:43 PM
Jeff Sessions raises prospect of special counsel on Uranium One deal



A special counsel should be appointed. If he refuses to do so he should be fired.


That's the card that Trump seems to be playing. The guy in charge telling his justice department to investigate his political rivals. Banana Republic anyone?

exotix
11-14-2017, 08:47 PM
Today


LOL


(R-Ohio) Jim Jordan Screams For Special Counsel To Investigate Hillary (http://crooksandliars.com/2017/11/rep-jordan-gets-rebuked-sessions-after)


http://crooksandliars.com/2017/11/rep-jordan-gets-rebuked-sessions-after


http://res.cloudinary.com/luvckye9s/image/upload/v1510710433/5_yfuiye.png

Common Sense
11-14-2017, 09:30 PM
Apparently pointing and saying "look over there!" works on a lot of people.

Tahuyaman
11-14-2017, 09:48 PM
Yes, because that's how our justice system works. Fire anyone in charge who doesn't pursue politically-motivated investigations until you find someone who will.

No. If the chief law enforcement official in America refuses to enforce the law and root out corruption, he's part of the problem and should be fired.

Grokmaster
11-14-2017, 11:00 PM
Good Luck with that ... LOL



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AooOsZx8HVM

Which is completely irrelevant to his appointing a special counsel. More comprehension troubles from the tPF left....der....

Grokmaster
11-14-2017, 11:01 PM
Umm, just today on Capitol Hill he said there wasn't enough to warrent a special counsel.

Sorry to disappoint you.


That's a lie. He said no such thing.

Grokmaster
11-14-2017, 11:02 PM
Yes, because that's how our justice system works. Fire anyone in charge who doesn't pursue politically-motivated investigations until you find someone who will.

The DOJ is obligated to ENFORCE THE LAW, not "cover up crimes" as did the Obama DOJ for years...

Beevee
11-14-2017, 11:06 PM
Yes, because that's how our justice system works. Fire anyone in charge who doesn't pursue politically-motivated investigations until you find someone who will.

Your justice system works by appointing judges that have never tried cases. It's a fantastic system and unique to the USA.
It's no wonder that so many people are in jails, and based on the superb quality of dispensing it, maybe half of them innocent.
But, heh! It's America, so who cares?

Crepitus
11-14-2017, 11:06 PM
That's a lie. He said no such thing.


"What's it going to take to get a special counsel?" Jordan asked repeatedly. He cited leaks about a dossier gathered by a former British intelligence officer and paid for in part by Democrats and the FBI.

Sessions said that it would require "a factual basis" and "the proper standards" to put the matter before a special counsel.

Republicans have increasingly demanded such a move in recent weeks, but Sessions brushed those aside as Jordan grew angrier.

"You can have your idea, but sometimes we have to study what the facts are," Sessions told Jordan.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/washington/la-na-pol-essential-washington-updates-in-house-hearing-even-republicans-are-1510678347-htmlstory.html

Grokmaster
11-14-2017, 11:11 PM
Your justice system works by appointing judges that have never tried cases. It's a fantastic system and unique to the USA.
It's no wonder that so many people are in jails, and based on the superb quality of dispensing it, maybe half of them innocent.
But, heh! It's America, so who cares?

Appeals court judges do not try cases; they review already tried cases. What you know about our court system wouldn't fill a thimble. just like your ridiculous claims of an imaginary "separation of powers" between the Executive Branch and itself....

Grokmaster
11-14-2017, 11:13 PM
http://www.latimes.com/politics/washington/la-na-pol-essential-washington-updates-in-house-hearing-even-republicans-are-1510678347-htmlstory.html

What you said he said: Umm, just today on Capitol Hill he said there wasn't enough to warrent a special counsel.


What he ACTUALLY SAID:Sessions said that it would require "a factual basis" and "the proper standards" to put the matter before a special counsel.


Keep making up bullshit; it's really working for you....der...

exotix
11-14-2017, 11:15 PM
What you said he said: Umm, just today on Capitol Hill he said there wasn't enough to warrent a special counsel.


What he ACTUALLY SAID:Sessions said that it would require "a factual basis" and "the proper standards" to put the matter before a special counsel.


Keep making up bull$#@!; it's really working for you....der...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9w0pQWsHQmk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe-JaHjgnLc

Crepitus
11-14-2017, 11:20 PM
What you said he said: Umm, just today on Capitol Hill he said there wasn't enough to warrent a special counsel.


What he ACTUALLY SAID:Sessions said that it would require "a factual basis" and "the proper standards" to put the matter before a special counsel.


Keep making up bullshit; it's really working for you....der...

Dude, you can have your own opinion, but you can't have your own facts. It's right there in black and white for you, accusing me of lying is just making you look silly.

Dangermouse
11-14-2017, 11:26 PM
Sessions said enough to the House between his "don't recalls" to contradict what he said between not recalling most of his Senate testimony. Both of which were under oath. One of his versions must therefore be perjury. (Or whatever the equivalent is)

Tahuyaman
11-15-2017, 12:04 AM
Umm, just today on Capitol Hill he said there wasn't enough to warrent a special counsel.

Sorry to disappoint you.


That's not quite an accurate recollection of what he said.

Tahuyaman
11-15-2017, 12:06 AM
Sessions said enough to the House between his "don't recalls" to contradict what he said between not recalling most of his Senate testimony. Both of which were under oath. One of his versions must therefore be perjury. (Or whatever the equivalent is)


That's the the partisan translation of what he said. In reality, he gave you nothing more than you had.

Crepitus
11-15-2017, 12:26 AM
That's not quite an accurate recollection of what he said.


Mr Sessions responded: “And I would say, ‘Looks like’ is not enough basis to appoint a special counsel.”

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/jeff-sessions-hillary-clinton-investigation-not-enough-evidence-fbi-latest-a8055296.html

Tahuyaman
11-15-2017, 12:44 AM
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/jeff-sessions-hillary-clinton-investigation-not-enough-evidence-fbi-latest-a8055296.html


And that's not an accurate representation of what you claimed he said.

leekohler2
11-15-2017, 01:22 AM
Umm, just today on Capitol Hill he said there wasn't enough to warrent a special counsel.

Sorry to disappoint you.

Oh wait, just a timeline on all this BS:

Benghazi- the right could not pin it on Obama, so:

They tried to pin it on Clinton because she dared to run for president.

I mean, it was just too much after the half black guy.

So the right decided to elect the worst human being they could find, just to prove they could.

This is a person who sexualized his own daughter. A person who threw away wives once they got too old. An adulterer.

But hey, no big deal to the right. After all, they never had any morals to begin with.

And here's the real truth- they think that the US has become pussified. Which really means that women took over, because wimpy men can't compete.

Well, the fact of the matter is this, women have taken over the US. Men, as we exist right now, actually have to compete with women. Can you even believe that? Gosh, if we men are so much better, then we might want to start proving it.

But no, can't do that, now can we boys?

Give me a damn break.

If you are such a wimp that women who beat you neuters you, you suck as a man. You don't even know what it means to be a man.


Any of you guys who voted for Trump are the real p***ies. You're so afraid of women it's palpable.

http://www.bbc.com/news/education-37107208

resister
11-15-2017, 01:43 AM
Oh wait, just a timeline on all this BS:

Benghazi- the right could not pin it on Obama, so:

They tried to pin it on Clinton because she dared to run for president.

I mean, it was just too much after the half black guy.

So the right decided to elect the worst human being they could find, just to prove they could.

This is a person who sexualized his own daughter. A person who threw away wives once they got too old. An adulterer.

But hey, no big deal to the right. After all, they never had any morals to begin with.

And here's the real truth- they think that the US has become pussified. Which really means that women took over, because wimpy men can't compete.

Well, the fact of the matter is this, women have taken over the US. Men, as we exist right now, actually have to compete with women. Can you even believe that? Gosh, if we men are so much better, then we might want to start proving it.

But no, can't do that, now can we boys?

Give me a damn break.

If you are such a wimp that women who beat you neuters you, you suck as a man. You don't even know what it means to be a man.


Any of you guys who voted for Trump are the real p***ies. You're so afraid of women it's palpable.

http://www.bbc.com/news/education-37107208
Your post is rather, hurtful Lee, I voted for Trump, I have not "thrown" my wife away.

Crepitus
11-15-2017, 07:05 AM
And that's not an accurate representation of what you claimed he said.

Lol, yes it is.

exotix
11-15-2017, 08:30 AM
It's about time; and then let's go ahead and look into the DNC/Clinton campaign's hiring of a law firm to PAY A FOREIGN AGENT to PAY RUSSIAN OFFICIALS TO ASSAIL A POLITICAL OPPONENT, after lying about any involvement in it for over a year....shall we?

As well as the apparent use of the created FOREIGN CLAIMS to acquire FISA WARRANTS on American citizens...



Jeff Sessions raises prospect of special counsel on Republican concerns

U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions is leaving open the possibility that a special counsel could be appointed to look into Clinton Foundation dealings and an Obama-era uranium deal, the Justice Department said Monday.

In a letter to the House Judiciary Committee, which is holding an oversight hearing Tuesday, the Justice Department said Sessions had directed senior federal prosecutors to "evaluate certain issues" recently raised by Republican lawmakers.

The prosecutors will report to Sessions and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and recommend whether any new investigations should be opened, whether any matters currently under investigation require additional resources and whether it might be necessary to appoint a special counsel to oversee a probe, according to a letter sent to Rep. Robert Goodlatte of Virginia, the Judiciary Committee's Republican chairman.


The letter from Assistant Attorney General Stephen Boyd did not say what specific steps might be taken by the Justice Department to address the lawmakers' concerns, or whether any of the matters Republicans have seized on might already be under investigation.

Any appointment of a new special counsel, particularly in response to calls from members of Congress, is likely to lead to Democratic complaints about an undue political influence on the department's decision-making. But Boyd said in the letter that the department "will never evaluate any matter except on the facts and the law."

Some have specifically said they want to know more about whether Obama's Department of Justice was investigating the purchase of Canadian mining company Uranium One by Rosatom, Russia's state-owned nuclear company, in 2010. The agreement was reached while Clinton led the State Department and some investors in the company had relationships with former president Bill Clinton and had donated large sums to the Clinton Foundation.





http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/sessions-special-counsel-clinton-1.4400963This looks like you've been pwn'd, thrashed and debunked ... and by one of your own ... LOL



Fox News' Shepherd Smith debunks his network's favorite Hillary Clinton 'scandal'

http://thepoliticalforums.com/thread...linton-scandal (http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/91098-Fox-News-Shepherd-Smith-debunks-his-network-s-favorite-Hillary-Clinton-scandal)

Bethere
11-15-2017, 09:02 AM
This looks like you've been pwn'd, thrashed and debunked ... and by one of your own ... LOL



Fox News' Shepherd Smith debunks his network's favorite Hillary Clinton 'scandal'

http://thepoliticalforums.com/thread...linton-scandal (http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/91098-Fox-News-Shepherd-Smith-debunks-his-network-s-favorite-Hillary-Clinton-scandal)

Shep prob has a copy of "It Takes a Village" at his house, and that would prove him a Clinton plant.

Tahuyaman
11-15-2017, 01:06 PM
Lol, yes it is.


Only if you translate his words to mean what you want them to mean.

Grokmaster
11-15-2017, 02:27 PM
This looks like you've been pwn'd, thrashed and debunked ... and by one of your own ... LOL



Fox News' Shepherd Smith debunks his network's favorite Hillary Clinton 'scandal'

http://thepoliticalforums.com/thread...linton-scandal (http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/91098-Fox-News-Shepherd-Smith-debunks-his-network-s-favorite-Hillary-Clinton-scandal)

How asinine.
Smith is a lying leftist idiot...one of "your own"....what he says means nothing. What Sessions said speaks volumes.

Grokmaster
11-15-2017, 02:28 PM
Shep prob has a copy of "It Takes a Village" at his house, and that would prove him a Clinton plant.

It is no secret that Smith is a flaming anti-American leftist...just like the tPF left.

Grokmaster
11-15-2017, 02:29 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9w0pQWsHQmk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe-JaHjgnLc

More lies from the tPF Champ of Lies. Sessions said no such thing.
Sessions said that it would require "a factual basis" and "the proper standards" to put the matter before a special counsel.



Ever wonder why you ALWAYS HAVE TO LIE?? You should.

Captdon
11-15-2017, 02:42 PM
Yes ?

Explain how all that works.

Trump fires him.
Trump appoints someone who will call a special prosecutor.

Seems simple enough.

Captdon
11-15-2017, 02:43 PM
Your justice system works by appointing judges that have never tried cases. It's a fantastic system and unique to the USA.
It's no wonder that so many people are in jails, and based on the superb quality of dispensing it, maybe half of them innocent.
But, heh! It's America, so who cares?

Explain how you appoint a judge who has tried cases?

exotix
11-15-2017, 02:44 PM
More lies from the tPF Champ of Lies. Sessions said no such thing.
Sessions said that it would require "a factual basis" and "the proper standards" to put the matter before a special counsel.



Ever wonder why you ALWAYS HAVE TO LIE?? You should.Notice how Sessions had enough with this Freedom Caucus wacko Jordan ... turned his head in indignation ... and wanted to get on with the next question ...


LOL

exotix
11-15-2017, 02:46 PM
Trump fires him.
Trump appoints someone who will call a special prosecutor.

Seems simple enough.That would be fodder for Mueller.

Captdon
11-15-2017, 02:46 PM
Oh wait, just a timeline on all this BS:

Benghazi- the right could not pin it on Obama, so:

They tried to pin it on Clinton because she dared to run for president.

I mean, it was just too much after the half black guy.

So the right decided to elect the worst human being they could find, just to prove they could.

This is a person who sexualized his own daughter. A person who threw away wives once they got too old. An adulterer.

But hey, no big deal to the right. After all, they never had any morals to begin with.

And here's the real truth- they think that the US has become pussified. Which really means that women took over, because wimpy men can't compete.

Well, the fact of the matter is this, women have taken over the US. Men, as we exist right now, actually have to compete with women. Can you even believe that? Gosh, if we men are so much better, then we might want to start proving it.

But no, can't do that, now can we boys?

Give me a damn break.

If you are such a wimp that women who beat you neuters you, you suck as a man. You don't even know what it means to be a man.


Any of you guys who voted for Trump are the real p***ies. You're so afraid of women it's palpable.

http://www.bbc.com/news/education-37107208

What a load of s***

Captdon
11-15-2017, 02:49 PM
That would be fodder for Mueller.


How? It was meant as a joke but- how? The President can fire any cabinet officer. Any.

Bethere
11-15-2017, 03:57 PM
It is no secret that Smith is a flaming anti-American leftist...just like the tPF left.

What did he say that wasn't true?

leekohler2
11-15-2017, 04:25 PM
What did he say that wasn't true?

Uranium One turned out to be just another conservative lie.

Crepitus
11-15-2017, 06:25 PM
Only if you translate his words to mean what you want them to mean.

No, it's pretty much Plain English

Tahuyaman
11-15-2017, 06:27 PM
No, it's pretty much Plain English
Plain English translates to anything you wish it to be at any one time.

Crepitus
11-15-2017, 06:29 PM
Plain English translates to anything you wish it to be at any one time.

Maybe to you....

Grokmaster
11-15-2017, 08:35 PM
Uranium One turned out to be just another conservative lie.

Oh...so Hillary didn't take millions from the owners and then sign off on the deal after all, huh? Right. Utter nonsense and a total lie

Grokmaster
11-15-2017, 08:45 PM
Trump’s AG considers special counsel in uranium deal



WASHINGTON — Attorney General Jeff Sessions is leaving open the possibility that a special counsel could be appointed to look into Clinton Foundation dealings and an Obama-era uranium deal, the Justice Department said, in responding to concerns from Republican lawmakers.

The department said in aletter to the House Judiciary Committee Monday that Sessions had directed senior federal prosecutors to “evaluate certain issues” raised in recent weeks by members of Congress, which include allegations that the Clinton Foundation benefited from a years-old uranium transaction involving a Russian-backed company.




https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/whitehouse/sessions-raises-prospect-of-special-counsel-on-gop-concerns/2017/11/13/8f88bfc8-c8df-11e7-b506-8a10ed11ecf5_story.html?utm_term=.750d84aa23f5

Yeah, it's all "made up" and "debunked"....GASP!!! Somebody had better tell Shepard Smith!!!


21064

Grokmaster
11-15-2017, 11:26 PM
What did he say that wasn't true?
That is had "nothing to do with Hillary Clinton", which is total bullshit.

Bethere
11-16-2017, 11:52 AM
Oh...so Hillary didn't take millions from the owners and then sign off on the deal after all, huh? Right. Utter nonsense and a total lie

Smith addressed that, too. You didn't watch the video did you?

leekohler2
11-16-2017, 11:54 AM
Smith addressed that, too. You didn't watch the video did you?

That can never admit they were wrong. Not one bit of integrity in any of them. Have you seen one right winger in tis form own up to the fact that this scandal is BS yet?

Nope, and you won't either.

Grokmaster
11-16-2017, 05:14 PM
Smith addressed that, too. You didn't watch the video did you?

Smith is pissing in the wind. I'll take the word of the FBI over him, thank you, despite their sickening coverup.

She took MILLIONS; she was not only the Secretary of State, she was the CHAIRMAN OF THE PANEL that had to approve the deal, which she did, AFTER MILLIONS changed hands. Smith cannot "explain away" the FACTS, despite your continued pretense that he has "special knowledge " of it.

Grokmaster
11-17-2017, 12:20 AM
That can never admit they were wrong. Not one bit of integrity in any of them. Have you seen one right winger in tis form own up to the fact that this scandal is BS yet?

Nope, and you won't either.

Wrong about what? Please cite where Smith disproved the Clinton Foundation taking MILLIONS from the major players in the Uranium One deal, Hillary being the CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE whose job it was to oversee such actions, her signing off on it, and then , despite the ONGLING LIES from leftists , like Smith, that the "uranium cannot be exported" , when SOME ALREADY HAS BEEN....

Adelaide
11-17-2017, 10:08 AM
Stop insulting each other. Discuss the topic.

Tahuyaman
11-17-2017, 03:18 PM
Umm, just today on Capitol Hill he said there wasn't enough to warrent a special counsel.

Sorry to disappoint you.


That's a lie. He said no such thing.

You are correct. He did not say that. He simply responded to one specific question with "looks like isn't enough". He went on to say that he has people gathering information to determine whether that course of action is warranted.

barb012
11-17-2017, 03:28 PM
If you paid close attention to the interview with Hillary. Her choice of words had an underlying threat that if you proceed with her investigation, I felt she was really saying that if she was guilty of being involved in criminal activity, many others will fall with her and this will have devastating consequences to the entire government's reputation but also to the rest of the world.

Grokmaster
11-17-2017, 05:02 PM
If you paid close attention to the interview with Hillary. Her choice of words had an underlying threat that if you proceed with her investigation, I felt she was really saying that if she was guilty of being involved in criminal activity, many others will fall with her and this will have devastating consequences to the entire government's reputation but also to the rest of the world.



"Watch your back, lest thee suffer Arkancide"...."

Tahuyaman
11-17-2017, 05:06 PM
If you paid close attention to the interview with Hillary. Her choice of words had an underlying threat that if you proceed with her investigation, I felt she was really saying that if she was guilty of being involved in criminal activity, many others will fall with her and this will have devastating consequences to the entire government's reputation but also to the rest of the world.

At least to the reputation of the administration she represented.

Tahuyaman
11-17-2017, 05:14 PM
That's the card that Trump seems to be playing. The guy in charge telling his justice department to investigate his political rivals. Banana Republic anyone?

That doesn't seem to be the case here.

Grokmaster
11-17-2017, 05:29 PM
Uranium One turned out to be just another conservative lie.

Other than the Russians taking control of 20% of our uranium reserves after paying $145 million to the Clinton Foundation alone, and then EXPORTING YELLOW CAKE URANIUM ( can you say "nuclear weapons"?), despite NOT HAVING THE LICENSE TO DO SO...all of whuch was covered up by the Obama DOJ, and not reported to Congress by the FBI.


The deal had to be approved by the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States, a committee that is composed of representatives from several US government agencies, including the State Department, which at the time was led by Secretary Hillary Clinton.

Yeah, other than that, I suppose...

barb012
11-17-2017, 09:20 PM
I don't agree that we should allow any country to own our uranium. I seriously do not think that the public would have ever supported this deal.

Grokmaster
11-17-2017, 09:27 PM
I don't agree that we should allow any country to own our uranium. I seriously do not think that the public would have ever supported this deal.
Agreed on both points. Not to mention the FBI being aware of the crime's involved, Obama DOJ not reporting this to Congress, and then threatening the informant to not report to Congress, as well.

barb012
11-17-2017, 09:33 PM
Agreed on both points. Not to mention the FBI being aware of the crime's involved, Obama DOJ not reporting this to Congress, and then threatening the informant to not report to Congress, as well.
I hope the informant who has cancer will stay alive long enough to get his facts out there.

Grokmaster
11-17-2017, 11:09 PM
I hope the informant who has cancer will stay alive long enough to get his facts out there.

Or has poison placed in his meds, "on accident"..

Common Sense
11-17-2017, 11:14 PM
No US Uranium has been exported.

leekohler2
11-17-2017, 11:29 PM
No US Uranium has been exported.

This is still going? This whole thing has been debunked over and over.

Common Sense
11-17-2017, 11:46 PM
This is still going? This whole thing has been debunked over and over.
Some people want to believe so badly that facts are no longer relevant.

MisterVeritis
11-17-2017, 11:51 PM
No US Uranium has been exported.
This statement is untrue.

“We have noted repeatedly that extracted uranium could not be exported by Russia without a license (https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/trib.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/a/6d/a6dfc0fd-5a9e-5e85-8fa6-f6cc62f3f741/4d912cbe63fb5.pdf.pdf), which Rosatom does not have,” the Post reported on Monday, linking to the 2011 Barrasso letter.
Yet NRC memos reviewed by The Hill show that it did approve the shipment of yellowcake uranium — the raw material used to make nuclear fuel and weapons — from the Russian-owned mines in the United States to Canada in 2012 through a third party. Later, the Obama administration approved some of that uranium going all the way to Europe, government documents show.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/358339-uranium-one-deal-led-to-some-exports-to-europe-memos-show

MisterVeritis
11-17-2017, 11:51 PM
Some people want to believe so badly that facts are no longer relevant.
This statement is true. Clearly.

Common Sense
11-17-2017, 11:59 PM
This statement is untrue.

“We have noted repeatedly that extracted uranium could not be exported by Russia without a license (https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/trib.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/a/6d/a6dfc0fd-5a9e-5e85-8fa6-f6cc62f3f741/4d912cbe63fb5.pdf.pdf), which Rosatom does not have,” the Post reported on Monday, linking to the 2011 Barrasso letter.
Yet NRC memos reviewed by The Hill show that it did approve the shipment of yellowcake uranium — the raw material used to make nuclear fuel and weapons — from the Russian-owned mines in the United States to Canada in 2012 through a third party. Later, the Obama administration approved some of that uranium going all the way to Europe, government documents show.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/358339-uranium-one-deal-led-to-some-exports-to-europe-memos-show
If that indeed is correct then I am wrong.

Regadless, this issue is not the grand conspiracy that people are making it out to be. It's simply an attempt to divert attention away from Trump's Russia problems.

leekohler2
11-18-2017, 12:00 AM
If that indeed is correct then I am wrong.

Regadless, this issue is not the grand conspiracy that people are making it out to be. It's simply an attempt to divert attention away from Trump's Russia problems.

Exactly.

MisterVeritis
11-18-2017, 12:04 AM
If that indeed is correct then I am wrong.

Regadless, this issue is not the grand conspiracy that people are making it out to be. It's simply an attempt to divert attention away from Trump's Russia problems.
I assumed you were not lying. Hence your statement was simply untrue.

We can investigate two things at once. I believe a special counsel is appropriate to investigate everything surrounding the Clinton Crime family including the slush fund, the corruption, the decisions involving the compromise of some portion of our uranium supply, and other crimes that have not yet come to light.

It does not appear that President Trump has a Russia problem (beyond foreign policy).

Common Sense
11-18-2017, 12:23 AM
I assumed you were not lying. Hence your statement was simply untrue.

We can investigate two things at once. I believe a special counsel is appropriate to investigate everything surrounding the Clinton Crime family including the slush fund, the corruption, the decisions involving the compromise of some portion of our uranium supply, and other crimes that have not yet come to light.

It does not appear that President Trump has a Russia problem (beyond foreign policy).
It doesn't appear that Trump has a Russia problem???

I....wow.

MisterVeritis
11-18-2017, 12:29 AM
It doesn't appear that Trump has a Russia problem???
I....wow.
No. It does not appear that President Trump has a Russia problem. Do you believe otherwise?

Common Sense
11-18-2017, 12:41 AM
No. It does not appear that President Trump has a Russia problem. Do you believe otherwise?
I believe that he does. I haven't implied that he is guilty of collusion, but there certainly have been serious allegations and his campaign staff certainly have committed crimes.

leekohler2
11-18-2017, 12:54 AM
I believe that he does. I haven't implied that he is guilty of collusion, but there certainly have been serious allegations and his campaign staff certainly have committed crimes.

Here's what cracks me up about the right: Allegations matter when it comes to liberals Hollywood. No evidence need be presented. Those people lost their livelihoods. They're done. And rightly so.

But the right elects their same pariahs to office. Anybody seeing anything inconsistent here?

Oh wait, morals only apply to other people.

Roy Moore could have never done such a thing, right?

Good god its stupid in this forum.

Grokmaster
11-18-2017, 01:28 PM
If that indeed is correct then I am wrong.

Regadless, this issue is not the grand conspiracy that people are making it out to be. It's simply an attempt to divert attention away from Trump's Russia problems.

Oh really? Then why did the Obama Adm. COVER IT UP, and lie about the export? AFTER millions and million$ changed hands , most of it to the Clinton Foundation....that we "nothing", too, I suppose?

Grokmaster
11-18-2017, 04:15 PM
Yeah...it's nothing:


Let’s put the Uranium One scandal in perspective: The cool half-million bucks the Putin regime funneled to Bill Clinton was five times the amount it spent on those Facebook ads — the ones the media-Democrat complex ludicrously suggests swung the 2016 presidential election to Donald Trump. The Facebook-ad buy, which started in June 2015 — before Donald Trump entered the race — was more left-wing agitprop (ads pushing hysteria on racism, immigration, guns, etc.) than electioneering.

The Clintons’ own long-time political strategist Mark Penn estimates that just $6,500 went to actual electioneering. (You read that right: 65 hundred dollars.) By contrast, the staggering $500,000 payday from a Kremlin-tied Russian bank for a single speech was part of a multi-million-dollar influence-peddling scheme to enrich the former president and his wife, then–secretary of state Hillary Clinton. At the time, Russia was plotting — successfully — to secure U.S. government approval for its acquisition of Uranium One, and with it, tens of billions of dollars in U.S. uranium reserves.

The Clintons were just doing what the Clintons do: cashing in on their “public service.” The Obama administration, with Secretary Clinton at the forefront but hardly alone, was knowingly compromising American national-security interests. The administration green-lighted the transfer of control over one-fifth of American uranium-mining capacity to Russia, a hostile regime — and specifically to Russia’s state-controlled nuclear-energy conglomerate, Rosatom. Worse, at the time the administration approved the transfer, it knew that Rosatom’s American subsidiary was engaged in a lucrative racketeering enterprise that had already committed felony extortion, fraud, and money-laundering offenses.

The Obama administration also knew that congressional Republicans were trying to stop the transfer. Consequently, the Justice Department concealed what it knew. DOJ allowed the racketeering enterprise to continue compromising the American uranium industry rather than commencing a prosecution that would have scotched the transfer. Prosecutors waited four years before quietly pleading the case out for a song, in violation of Justice Department charging guidelines.

Meanwhile, the administration stonewalled Congress, reportedly threatening an informant who wanted to go public.

In 2005, former President Clinton helped his Canadian billionaire friend and benefactor, Frank Giustra, obtain coveted uranium-mining rights from Kazakhstan’s dictator. The Kazakh deal enabled Giustra’s company (Ur-Asia Energy) to merge into Uranium One (a South African company), a $3.5 billion windfall. Giustra and his partners thereafter contributed tens of millions of dollars to the Clinton Foundation. Besides the valuable Kazakh reserves, Uranium One also controlled about a fifth of the uranium stock in the United States.

Alas, Putin, the neighborhood bully, also wanted the Kazakh uranium. He leaned on Kazakhstan’s dictator, who promptly arrested the official responsible for selling the uranium-mining rights to Giustra’s company. This put Uranium One’s stake in jeopardy of being seized by the Kazakh government.

As Uranium One’s stock plunged, its panicked executives turned to the State Department, where their friend Hillary Clinton was now in charge. State sprung into action, convening emergency meetings with the Kazakh regime. A few days later, it was announced that the crisis was resolved (translation: the shakedown was complete). Russia’s energy giant, Rosatom, would purchase 17 percent of Uranium One, and the Kazakh threat would disappear — and with it, the threat to the value of the Clinton donors’ holdings.

For Putin, though, that was just a start. He didn’t want a minority stake in Uranium One, he wanted control of the uranium. For that, Rosatom would need a controlling interest in Uranium One. That would be a tall order — not because of the Kazakh mining rights but because acquisition of Uranium One’s American reserves required U.S. government approval.











http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...n-racketeering (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/452972/uranium-one-deal-obama-administration-doj-hillary-clinton-racketeering)

MisterVeritis
11-18-2017, 04:31 PM
I believe that he does. I haven't implied that he is guilty of collusion, but there certainly have been serious allegations and his campaign staff certainly have committed crimes.
Those are two different issues. It has been more than a year and there is no evidence of collusion despite spending a couple of tens of millions of dollars.

If you give someone a list of names, an unlimited budget and time and tell that person to find some crimes what do you believe would happen? It is a travesty that we allow such a tyrannical thing occur in our country. Given that we use the law for unlawful and unjust purposes let's apply it liberally. Let's destroy, once and for all the Clinton Crime Family with the same tyrannical instrument.

Grokmaster
11-18-2017, 07:28 PM
Even though the FBI had an informant collecting damning information, and had a prosecutable case against Mikerin by early 2010, the extortion racket against American energy companies was permitted to continue into the summer of 2014. It was only then that, finally, Mikerin and his confederates were arrested.

Why then? This is not rocket science. In March 2014, Russia annexed Crimea. Putin also began massing forces on the Ukrainian border, coordinating and conducting attacks, ultimately taking control of territory. Clearly, the pie-in-the-sky Obama reset was dead. Furthermore, the prosecution of Mikerin’s racketeering scheme had been so delayed that the Justice Department risked losing the ability to charge the 2009 felonies because of the five-year statute of limitations on most federal crimes.

Still, a lid needed to be kept on the case. It would have made for an epic Obama administration scandal, and a body blow to Hillary Clinton’s presidential hopes, if in the midst of Russia’s 2014 aggression, public attention had been drawn to the failure, four years earlier, to prosecute a national-security case in order to protect Russia’s takeover of U.S. nuclear assets. The Obama administration needed to make this case go away — without a public trial if at all possible.


Think about this: The investigation of Russian racketeering in the American energy sector was the kind of spectacular success over which the FBI and Justice Department typically do a bells-n-whistles victory lap — the big self-congratulatory press conference followed by the media-intensive prosecutions . . . and, of course, more press conferences.

Here . . . crickets.

As the Hill reports, the Justice Department and FBI had little to say when Mikerin and his co-conspirators were arrested. They quietly negotiated guilty pleas that were announced with no fanfare just before Labor Day. It was arranged that Mikerin would be sentenced just before Christmas. All under the radar.


How desperate was the Obama Justice Department to plead the case out? Here, Rosenstein and Holder will have some explaining to do.
Mikerin was arrested on a complaint describing a racketeering scheme that stretched back to 2004 and included extortion, fraud, and money laundering. Yet he was permitted to plead guilty to a single count of money-laundering conspiracy. Except it was not really money-laundering conspiracy.

Under federal law, that crime (at section 1956 of the penal code) carries a penalty of up to 20 years’ imprisonment — not only for conspiracy but for each act of money laundering. But Mikerin was not made to plead guilty to this charge. He was permitted to plead guilty to an offense charged under the catch-all federal conspiracy provision (section 371) that criminalizes agreements to commit any crime against the United States. Section 371 prescribes a sentence of zero to five years’ imprisonment.

The Justice Department instructs prosecutors that when Congress has given a federal offense its own conspiracy provision with a heightened punishment (as it has for money laundering, racketeering, narcotics trafficking, and other serious crimes), they may not charge a section 371 conspiracy. Section 371 is for less serious conspiracy cases. Using it for money laundering — which caps the sentence way below Congress’s intent for that behavior — subverts federal law and signals to the court that the prosecutor does not regard the offense as major.

Yet, that is exactly what Rosenstein’s office did, in a plea agreement his prosecutors co-signed with attorneys from the Justice Department’s Fraud Section. (See in the Hill’s report, the third document embedded at the bottom, titled “Mikerin Plea Deal.”) No RICO, no extortion, no fraud — and the plea agreement is careful not to mention any of the extortions in 2009 and 2010, before CFIUS approved Rosatom’s acquisition of U.S. uranium stock. Mikerin just had to plead guilty to a nominal “money laundering” conspiracy charge. This insulated him from a real money-laundering sentence. Thus, he got a term of just four years’ incarceration for a major national-security crime — which, of course, is why he took the plea deal and waived his right to appeal, sparing the Obama administration a full public airing of the facts.

Interestingly, as the plea agreement shows, the Obama DOJ’s Fraud Section was then run by Andrew Weissmann, who is now one of the top prosecutors in Robert Mueller’s ongoing special-counsel investigation of suspected Trump collusion with Russia.

There was still one other problem to tamp down. That was the informant — the lobbyist who alerted the FBI to the Russian racketeering enterprise back in 2009. He wanted to talk.


Specifically, as his attorney, Ms. Toensing, explains, the informant wanted to tell Congress what he knows — about what the FBI and the Justice Department could already have proved in 2010 when CFIUS signed off on Russia’s acquisition of American nuclear material, and about what he’d learned of Russian efforts to curry favor with Bill and Hillary Clinton. But he was not allowed to talk.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/452972/uranium-one-deal-obama-administration-doj-hillary-clinton-racketeering