Presidents Ranked From Worst to Best

[gamewell45]

The 2017 list of Presidents rankings has been published.

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/presidents-ranked-from-worst-to-best-presidential-historians-survey-2017/44/?ftag=ACQ449302a&vndid=1861761859&nan_pid=1861761859&ad_id=5267170

My favorite is Harry S. Truman

[Safety]

Haven't even looked at the list yet, and I'm sure there's going to be a lot of butthurt from the right side of the aisle.

[gamewell45]

Haven't even looked at the list yet, and I'm sure there's going to be a lot of butthurt from the right side of the aisle.

Hopefully there won't be; at least that's not the intention anyhow; it's just interesting to read the comments; some of the mid-1800 presidents were some real characters.

[resister]

Imagine that Trump worst ranked, been in office one year (speaks to the credibility (or Lack) of CBS)

Low hanging confirmation bias, for the consumption of the gullible.

[Abby08]

How can you rank a President who's still in his first year?

[resister]

How can you rank a President who's still in his first year?
One really must be gullible to swallow 21128

[Green Arrow]

How can you rank a President who's still in his first year?


One really must be gullible to swallow 21128


Imagine that Trump worst ranked, been in office one year (speaks to the credibility (or Lack) of CBS)

Low hanging confirmation bias, for the consumption of the gullible.
Speaking of confirmation bias, the article didn’t rank Trump at all and specifically said they only rank presidents after they leave office.

This is why you should always read the article first.

[resister]

Speaking of confirmation bias, the article didn’t rank Trump at all and specifically said they only rank presidents after they leave office.

This is why you should always read the article first.

How embarrassing, did you scroll thru the link? Evidently not..

[Green Arrow]

How embarrassing, did you scroll thru the link? Evidently not..

Yes, I did. I read every word. It mentioned Trump at the very beginning, but did not rank him.

[jimmyz]

Its kind of subjective no. I waited in gas lines when Ford and Carter were president. Paid $4.50 a gallon when Bush the younger was president. Got a smoking deal on a mortgage during Clinton. And so forth and so on.

The better question is.... When did the POTUS NOT effect you the most. The answer is...when you made decisions NOT based on current POTUS and partisan Congressional policies.

[resister]

Yes, I did. I read every word. It mentioned Trump at the very beginning, but did not rank him.
So why does it have his picture by #1?

[Grokmaster]

The 2017 list of Presidents rankings has been published.

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/presidents-ranked-from-worst-to-best-presidential-historians-survey-2017/44/?ftag=ACQ449302a&vndid=1861761859&nan_pid=1861761859&ad_id=5267170

My favorite is Harry S. Truman

Fuck CBS news and their lyingass Fake News Bullshit.


This is what REAL AMERICANS SAID after a YEAR-LONG, NATIONWIDE SURVEY, the ONLY EXTNSIVE NATIDE SURVEY EVER DONE on the QUESTION:

Americans Say Reagan Is the Greatest U.S. President




http://news.gallup.com/poll/146183/americans-say-reagan-greatest-president.aspx

[gamewell45]

So why does it have his picture by #1?

I wouldn't worry about it; in 4 years he'll get a ranking. In the mean time surely there has to be a president on the list you like? see where his ranking is on the list. check out the presidents from the 1800's; there are some real characters there.

[resister]

I wouldn't worry about it; in 4 years he'll get a ranking. In the mean time surely there has to be a president on the list you like? see where his ranking is on the list. check out the presidents from the 1800's; there are some real characters there.
I went back and looked again, no Trump Pic by #1 this time, but it was there.

It is just an opinion list, after all.

[gamewell45]

$#@! CBS news and their lyingass Fake News Bull$#@!.


This is what REAL AMERICANS SAID after a YEAR-LONG, NATIONWIDE SURVEY, the ONLY EXTNSIVE NATIDE SURVEY EVER DONE on the QUESTION:

Americans Say Reagan Is the Greatest U.S. President




http://news.gallup.com/poll/146183/americans-say-reagan-greatest-president.aspx

Hey pal, don't yell at me because you don't like what they printed. Click off of it and find something else to amuse yourself with.

[gamewell45]

I went back and looked again, no Trump Pic by #1 this time, but it was there.

It is just an opinion list, after all.

Basically yes that is all that it is.

[Grokmaster]

Hey pal, don't yell at me because you don't like what they printed. Click off of it and find something else to amuse yourself with.
Who's yelling at you? I merely cited the ONLY comprehensive survey ever taken on the subject, instead of the Standard Left Bullshit Media "polls".

[Green Arrow]

So why does it have his picture by #1?
It doesn’t. It has Abraham Lincoln’s picture by #1 because Lincoln is ranked #1.

You’d know Trump isn’t ranked if you read the article instead of just looking at pictures.

[Green Arrow]

Who's yelling at you? I merely cited the ONLY comprehensive survey ever taken on the subject, instead of the Standard Left Bullshit Media "polls".
It’s not a poll. They asked a bunch of historians to rank the presidents and ranked them by the average of all the lists.

[gamewell45]

Who's yelling at you? I merely cited the ONLY comprehensive survey ever taken on the subject, instead of the Standard Left Bull$#@! Media "polls".

You may not know this but when you print in caps, you are in effect "yelling". Furthermore, is it possible for you to view anything posted without looking at it partisan? I may not like some of the rankings but I sure don't get all bent out of shape over it. If you don't like what you see, simply click off of it and move on; honestly there is really no need for all the theatrics.

[Green Arrow]

I don’t agree with some of the rankings, but honestly it’s pretty minor stuff, so overall I’d say the list is pretty solid.

[Green Arrow]

(Also, shameless plug, I did my own ranking back in February - http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/78960-The-Presidents-Ranked )

[leekohler2]

Obama. The first time a president ever stood up for people like me. I never thought I would live to see the day, but I did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfFKh3eHK3Y

No president has ever done that before. That's why Obama wins my vote.

And yes, I did play hockey in Cleveland that year at those games.

This video was shown the opening ceremonies. My parents, who are staunch Republicans were there. They stood up and cheered, even though they were not Obama fans.

[jimmyz]

(Also, shameless plug, I did my own ranking back in February - http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/78960-The-Presidents-Ranked )

I miss Subdermal (PBUH)

Other than that tid-bit I see some miss-alignment in your list. But we would have to pitch quarters against a wall to settle things. :tongue:

[Devil'sAdvocate]

Obama. The first time a president ever stood up for people like me. I never thought I would live to see the day, but I did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfFKh3eHK3Y

No president has ever done that before. That's why Obama wins my vote.

And yes, I did play hockey in Cleveland that year.
That's completely unbiased.

[leekohler2]

That's completely unbiased.

S*** on it all you want. Sounds like freedom to me. Sounds like the promise of my country. Sounds like the USA I am proud of.

Do you disagree? Please, by all means tell us what was terrible about that speech.

[jimmyz]

S*** on it all you want. Sounds like freedom to me. Sounds like the promise of my country. Sounds like the USA I am proud of.

Do you disagree?

But gay US Olympians and before them Greek pedophiles have participated in the games since their inception. Why do we need a sub-set Games when it is not needed?

Please address the original Greek games and their predilection to sodomize boys as an accepted practice in their culture. Thanks Lee.

[Dr. Who]

I went back and looked again, no Trump Pic by #1 this time, but it was there.

It is just an opinion list, after all.
It's not always all about Trump. If he shows up as the first it's because there is insufficient info to rank him at this point. For some people he will be the worst today, but we are talking a few hundred years of Presidents and retrospect is useful in comparing leaders.

[Adelaide]

Jimmyz and leekohler2 have been thread banned.

[The Xl]

Shitty list.

[Common]

It's not always all about Trump. If he shows up as the first it's because there is insufficient info to rank him at this point. For some people he will be the worst today, but we are talking a few hundred years of Presidents and retrospect is useful in comparing leaders.

Best worst doesnt matter, if everyone made a list each one would be different. To me how could anyone not put jimmy carter near the very bottom of the barrel. Its just opinions

[Ethereal]

Haven't even looked at the list yet, and I'm sure there's going to be a lot of butthurt from the right side of the aisle.
My, what a constructive post.

[Ethereal]

Yes to Washington, Jefferson, and JFK; nod to Eisenhower; hard pass on Lincoln, FDR, Teddy, and Truman.

[Safety]

My, what a constructive post.Yet, I was spot on with my prediction. Sorry that you are angry about it.

[Tahuyaman]

Haven't even looked at the list yet, and I'm sure there's going to be a lot of butthurt from the right side of the aisle.


Why would you say that without first reading the list? Is it because you suspect that the list is heavily influenced by a left wing bias?

[Mini Me]

I think JFK and Bobby are underated; bullets stopped them in their tracks.

JFK wanted to end the war in Vietnam, break up the CIA, dump the FED banking cartel, and most importantly break up the MOB, which had a stranglehold on America back then. That took enormous guts, and it cost them their lives! J.Edgar Hoover refused to go after the Mob, and even denied their existance, and was instrumental in getting MLK whacked.

Those bullets changed history forever!

[Crepitus]

Why would you say that without first reading the list? Is it because you suspect that the list is heavily influenced by a left wing bias?

Nope, history.

[Mini Me]

Its kind of subjective no. I waited in gas lines when Ford and Carter were president. Paid $4.50 a gallon when Bush the younger was president. Got a smoking deal on a mortgage during Clinton. And so forth and so on.
Politics, by its very nature is SUBJECTIVE! That's why we should not take hard line stances set in concrete. Its so hard to even know what is true or not true!
The better question is.... When did the POTUS NOT effect you the most. The answer is...when you made decisions NOT based on current POTUS and partisan Congressional policies.

[Safety]

Nope, history.Exactly.

[Ethereal]

Yet, I was spot on with my prediction. Sorry that you are angry about it.
That's funny.

[Ethereal]

Historians operate from biases, just like everyone else. Many "mainstream" historians are biased heavily in favor of presidents who aggrandized and expanded the powers of the state over the individual, the community, and the States. That is why Lincoln and FDR are always ranked so highly in these kinds of lists. Naturally, tPF's resident Marxists will tend to agree with that interpretation. But that's all it is, is an interpretation.

[Kalkin]

The real list:
First place- Reagan, the Great Communicator
Last place- obama, the marxist divider

[Tahuyaman]

Why would you say that without first reading the list? Is it because you suspect that the list is heavily influenced by a left wing bias?


Nope, history.


Exactly.


How would one know it they admittedly did not read the list?

If one one doesn't read it, but claims "right wing" types will be "butt hurt" over the list, that suggests someone just wants to start a food fight instead of seriously discussing the merits.

[Tahuyaman]

Why would you say that without first reading the list? Is it because you suspect that the list is heavily influenced by a left wing bias?


Nope, history.


Speaking of confirmation bias, the article didn’t rank Trump at all and specifically said they only rank presidents after they leave office.

This is why you should always read the article first.
Some of your liberal friends should heed that advice too.

However, if one views the President's job as increasing the size and scope of government and creating legislation which puts more of our personal liberties and responsibilities in the hands of government, FDR should be number 1.

[Green Arrow]

Historians operate from biases, just like everyone else. Many "mainstream" historians are biased heavily in favor of presidents who aggrandized and expanded the powers of the state over the individual, the community, and the States. That is why Lincoln and FDR are always ranked so highly in these kinds of lists. Naturally, tPF's resident Marxists will tend to agree with that interpretation. But that's all it is, is an interpretation.
Nobody, least of all the historians polled or the article author, attempted to pass this off as anytging but opinion.

[Tahuyaman]

Nobody, least of all the historians polled or the article author, attempted to pass this off as anytging but opinion.What else can it be if not opinion? Opinions on the greatness of a president are mostly based on one's individual biases.

[Ransom]

As I've exchanged with a many members here where a knowledge of our history is required.....I'd give more credence to a best to worst Diva list from this current membership. As a forum....I'd give us a D-.

Used to be an F though, so......moving ion the right direction.

[Ransom]

George. Thomas. Abe. Teddy. Ronald. And Hillary not becoming President I consider the top 6.

[Bethere]

Imagine that Trump worst ranked, been in office one year (speaks to the credibility (or Lack) of CBS)

Low hanging confirmation bias, for the consumption of the gullible.
Lol.

Epic.

If your post were a movie it could only be produced in IMAX.

[Bethere]

The 2017 list of Presidents rankings has been published.

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/presidents-ranked-from-worst-to-best-presidential-historians-survey-2017/44/?ftag=ACQ449302a&vndid=1861761859&nan_pid=1861761859&ad_id=5267170

My favorite is Harry S. Truman

Agree with Abe, but I place him in a tie w/ FDR.

They are the most consequential of the presidents. That's probably the most objective way to assess them. Certainly, without either America would be a far different place.

It's easier to maintain a worst list. We'll start that with Buchanan, Hoover, W, and Trump.

[Mini Me]

Historians operate from biases, just like everyone else. Many "mainstream" historians are biased heavily in favor of presidents who aggrandized and expanded the powers of the state over the individual, the community, and the States. That is why Lincoln and FDR are always ranked so highly in these kinds of lists. Naturally, tPF's resident Marxists will tend to agree with that interpretation. But that's all it is, is an interpretation.

There are Marxists on this board? Name names!
You brand anyone a Marxist who disagrees with you!

[Bethere]

There are Marxists on this board? Name names!
You brand anyone a Marxist who disagrees with you!


Amazing, huh? Call him a Republican in response. See what happens.

[Mini Me]

Some of your liberal friends should heed that advice too.

However, if one views the President's job as increasing the size and scope of government and creating legislation which puts more of our personal liberties and responsibilities in the hands of government, FDR should be number 1.
That is true!

FDR really took on a lot of Gov.t, but at the time we really needed it with the Depression raging and all. The New Deal was a good deal for Americans!

[Peter1469]

That is true!

FDR really took on a lot of Gov.t, but at the time we really needed it with the Depression raging and all. The New Deal was a good deal for Americans!
The New Deal was the death of the Founder's dream.

[Tahuyaman]

The New Deal was the death of the Founder's dream.That is where the entitlement mentality was born.