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Bethere
11-29-2017, 01:26 PM
Wow! This is a tremendous read about how Trump could have been/likely was compromised by the kgb.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/19/trump-first-moscow-trip-215842

Read it! Then vote in our poll.

Grokmaster
11-29-2017, 01:47 PM
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Ravens Fan
11-29-2017, 01:48 PM
It is a good fantasy. Reminds me of those fan-fiction articles about Game of Thrones or Stranger Things that come up on Facebook, where people try to read into things that happened to find things that aren't really there.


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Bethere
11-29-2017, 04:19 PM
21277

I didn't say it was a lie. In fact, I am saying it is probably true.

Never try to speak on behalf of the master.

Tahuyaman
11-29-2017, 04:27 PM
The more they can't find any evidence to support the meme, the more they make up stupid shit hoping something or anything will work.

resister
11-29-2017, 04:28 PM
The more they can't find any evidence to support the meme, the more they make up stupid shit hoping something or anything will work.
When this one fails, it will be back to watching the man eat dinner, or maybe he will pass gas in front of some dignitary. That would dominate the news for a bit.

Bethere
11-29-2017, 04:33 PM
The more they can't find any evidence to support the meme, the more they make up stupid $#@! hoping something or anything will work.

It's not a meme. It's the basis for an active fbi investigation. You should read all of my threads everyday to keep up on the fast changing political environment.

Captdon
11-29-2017, 04:36 PM
Wow! This is a tremendous read about how Trump could have been/likely was compromised by the kgb.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/19/trump-first-moscow-trip-215842

Read it! Then vote in our poll.
More election crap. That's my vote.
The KGB? My God, they went out of business in 1991. That's too much, really. Convoluted nonsense. Here's a fact: Clinton's husband took money from the government controlled RT. That's a provable fact. this is nothing but a bad spy story. Why would the Russians give a rat's ass about a NY real estate guy in 1986? I expect better than this from you.

Tahuyaman
11-29-2017, 04:43 PM
It's not a meme. It's the basis for an active fbi investigation. You should read all of my threads everyday to keep up on the fast changing political environment.

Your threads are useful only for the development of a treatment for TDD.

Captdon
11-29-2017, 04:44 PM
Your threads are useful only for the development of a treatment for TDD.

No, there's no possible cure.

Bethere
11-29-2017, 04:46 PM
More election crap. That's my vote.
The KGB? My God, they went out of business in 1991. That's too much, really. Convoluted nonsense. Here's a fact: Clinton's husband took money from the government controlled RT. That's a provable fact. this is nothing but a bad spy story. Why would the Russians give a rat's ass about a NY real estate guy in 1986? I expect better than this from you.

Gosh, I said nothing about the election. This is about the liklihood that our president is being blackmailed.

The kgb may have changed their name but that sure as hell is an ex kgb officer in charge of the country.

Fascinating, huh?

Dangermouse
11-29-2017, 04:53 PM
The more they can't find any evidence to support the meme, the more they make up stupid $#@! hoping something or anything will work.

Not a meme. names and dates supplied. Is there any amount of evidence that will knock over the barrier of smug wilful ignorance?

Tahuyaman
11-29-2017, 04:56 PM
Not a meme. names and dates supplied. Is there any amount of evidence that will knock over the barrier of smug wilful ignorance?

Any factual evidence would be nice.

Bethere
11-29-2017, 04:57 PM
Not a meme. names and dates supplied. Is there any amount of evidence that will knock over the barrier of smug wilful ignorance?

Tahuyaman forgets about the dossier. This is what the dossier was actually about. Everyone should read it before commenting.

Bethere
11-29-2017, 04:57 PM
Any factual evidence would be nice.

Be patient. Mueller is rolling foreign agents who posed as administration officials as we speak.

Tahuyaman
11-29-2017, 05:10 PM
Be patient. Mueller is rolling foreign agents who posed as administration officials as we speak.

You've been making that claim for a while now.

resister
11-29-2017, 05:14 PM
Anyone that cant see the "dossier" for what it is, a work of fiction, with a little factual info sprinkled in and a pure political hit job is very gullible and very easily, manipulated.

Bethere
11-29-2017, 05:15 PM
Anyone that cant see the "dossier" for what it is, a work of fiction, with a little factual info sprinkled in and a pure political hit job is very gullible and very easily, manipulated.

You haven't read it.

MisterVeritis
11-29-2017, 05:15 PM
Tahuyaman forgets about the dossier. This is what the dossier was actually about. Everyone should read it before commenting.
It is fiction. May I recommend a classic, Harry Potter?

Bethere
11-29-2017, 05:16 PM
You've been making that claim for a while now.

Special counsel delays grand jury testimony amid signs of Flynn deal talksCNN.com - 1 hour ago

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/29/politics/special-counsel-michael-flynn/index.html&ved=0ahUKEwietK3b5-TXAhXEbRQKHamhD0oQqOcBCCYwAA&usg=AOvVaw2tF5mqME5UU_LYq1SQisvC

MisterVeritis
11-29-2017, 05:16 PM
Be patient. Mueller is rolling foreign agents who posed as administration officials as we speak.
I now believe you are gullible.

resister
11-29-2017, 05:17 PM
You haven't read it.
Link? Tell us about those golden showers? LOL

Bethere
11-29-2017, 05:17 PM
It is fiction. May I recommend a classic, Harry Potter?

Lots of it is checking out. In fact, I defy you to point out anything in it that hasn't.

Bethere
11-29-2017, 05:19 PM
Link? Tell us about those golden showers? LOL

You need a link? Why because you are commenting on something you haven't read, just as I said?

Google is your friend. Educating you isn't my job.

Tahuyaman
11-29-2017, 05:19 PM
Special counsel delays grand jury testimony amid signs of Flynn deal talksCNN.com - 1 hour ago

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/29/politics/special-counsel-michael-flynn/index.html&ved=0ahUKEwietK3b5-TXAhXEbRQKHamhD0oQqOcBCCYwAA&usg=AOvVaw2tF5mqME5UU_LYq1SQisvC

And when this does not implicate Trump in anything will you survive? Will you then say Mueller is a shill for the Republicans? What are you going to do?

MisterVeritis
11-29-2017, 05:20 PM
Lots of it is checking out. In fact, I defy you to point out anything in it tat hasn't.
Nonsense. It was a paid for production. The DNC, which is to say Crooked Hillary paid for its production. She probably broke a few laws doing so.

Why would I bother to try to prove something in it is false. It is fiction. I have not, not even once, tried to prove that things in the Harry Potter series were false.

Gullible. It is a shame.

Tahuyaman
11-29-2017, 05:21 PM
Lots of it is checking out. In fact, I defy you to point out anything in it that hasn't.


So so far nothing has checked out. Wishing it so doesn't make it so.

resister
11-29-2017, 05:21 PM
You need a link? Why because you are commenting on something you haven't read, just as I said?

Google is your friend. Educating you isn't my job.
No, a link to prove your assumption that you know what I have or have not read.

Since you brought it up, defend it.

Bethere
11-29-2017, 05:21 PM
I now believe you are gullible.

You are in denial.

Special counsel delays grand jury testimony amid signs of Flynn deal talksCNN.com - 1 hour ago

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...5UU_LYq1SQisvC (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/29/politics/special-counsel-michael-flynn/index.html&ved=0ahUKEwietK3b5-TXAhXEbRQKHamhD0oQqOcBCCYwAA&usg=AOvVaw2tF5mqME5UU_LYq1SQisvC)

Tahuyaman
11-29-2017, 05:21 PM
Nonsense. It was a paid for production. The DNC, which is to say Crooked Hillary paid for its production. She probably broke a few laws doing so.

Why would I bother to try to prove something in it is false. It is fiction. I have not, not even once, tried to prove that things in the Harry Potter series were false.

Gullible. It is a shame.

How does one prove a negative?

Bethere
11-29-2017, 05:23 PM
And when this does not implicate Trump in anything will you survive? Will you then say Mueller is a shill for the Republicans? What are you going to do?

He isn't a shill for Republicans. He IS a Republican. He was HIRED by Republicans. He works for Republicans.

And right now he is negotiating with Flynn obviously on a plea deal.

MisterVeritis
11-29-2017, 05:23 PM
You are in denial.

Special counsel delays grand jury testimony amid signs of Flynn deal talksCNN.com - 1 hour ago

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...5UU_LYq1SQisvC (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/29/politics/special-counsel-michael-flynn/index.html&ved=0ahUKEwietK3b5-TXAhXEbRQKHamhD0oQqOcBCCYwAA&usg=AOvVaw2tF5mqME5UU_LYq1SQisvC)
LOL. I am well grounded. You, however, have taken to flights of fancy.

Bethere
11-29-2017, 05:24 PM
So so far nothing has checked out. Wishing it so doesn't make it so.
Join resister in actually reading the dossier. Perhaps you can form a book club.

Tahuyaman
11-29-2017, 05:28 PM
He isn't a shill for Republicans. He IS a Republican. He was HIRED by Republicans. He works for Republicans.

And right now he is negotiating with Flynn obviously on a plea deal.

Are setting up a new meme? When nothing implicates Trump, Mueller was on the take?

Tahuyaman
11-29-2017, 05:29 PM
Join resister in actually reading the dossier. Perhaps you can form a book club.

Already did it. I'm a fan of fiction.

Bethere
11-29-2017, 05:29 PM
Are setting up a new meme? When nothing implicates Trump, Mueller was on the take?

No.

Did I say anything that wasn't true?

Bethere
11-29-2017, 05:30 PM
Already did it. I'm a fan of fiction.
Then, if you'd be so gracious, would you read it to your confused buddy?

Tahuyaman
11-29-2017, 05:38 PM
Then, if you'd be so gracious, would you read it to your confused buddy?

You are so ate up with TDD that you would believe any outlandish accusation against anyone named Trump. In fact the more outlandish the accusation, the more you believe them.


If someone accused Trump of being a purveyor of midget porn you'd be calling for a special prosecutor.

For your own mental and physical wellness, you should conduct an honest self evaluation.

Tahuyaman
11-29-2017, 05:42 PM
No.

Did I say anything that wasn't true?

huh?

Bethere
11-29-2017, 05:43 PM
You are so ate up with TDD that you would believe any outlandish accusation against anyone named Trump. In fact the more outlandish the accusation, the more you believe them.


If someone accused Trump of being a purveyor of midget porn you'd be calling for a special prosecutor.

For your own mental and physical wellness, you should conduct an honest self evaluation.

Actually, I've had nothing but good things to say about Ivana and Baron Trump.

Tahuyaman
11-29-2017, 05:49 PM
Actually, I've had nothing but good things to say about Ivana and Baron Trump. Ivana? She's been out of the mix for years. Barron is a little boy. Why would you attack him?

Bethere
11-29-2017, 05:51 PM
Ivana? She's been out of the mix for years. Barron is a little boy. Why would you attack him?

I was just successfully proving your statement wrong.

Thanks for listening.

Tahuyaman
11-29-2017, 05:57 PM
I was just successfully proving your statement wrong.

Thanks for listening.

TDD doesn't completely explain your malfunction. I suspect it's deeper than that.

hanger4
11-29-2017, 06:16 PM
Lots of it is checking out. In fact, I defy you to point out anything in it that hasn't.Nothing salacious and no collusion. Russians talking to Russians has been verified. :rollseyes:

Bethere
11-29-2017, 06:19 PM
TDD doesn't completely explain your malfunction. I suspect it's deeper than that.

Don't forget to vote!

Tahuyaman
11-29-2017, 06:49 PM
Don't forget to vote!

This is funny. You want kudos for not attacking a little boy and a woman no longer named Trump.

Bethere
11-29-2017, 06:53 PM
This is funny. You want kudos for not attacking a little boy and a woman no longer named Trump.
I didn't ask for kudos. I was just proving your claim false.

ripmeister
11-29-2017, 07:06 PM
You are so ate up with TDD that you would believe any outlandish accusation against anyone named Trump. In fact the more outlandish the accusation, the more you believe them.


If someone accused Trump of being a purveyor of midget porn you'd be calling for a special prosecutor.

For your own mental and physical wellness, you should conduct an honest self evaluation.
That would more likely be Jim Jordan! LOL!

Tahuyaman
11-29-2017, 07:40 PM
I didn't ask for kudos. I was just proving your claim false.

But you didn't.

Dangermouse
11-29-2017, 08:05 PM
Anyone that cant see the "dossier" for what it is, a work of fiction, with a little factual info sprinkled in and a pure political hit job is very gullible and very easily, manipulated.

Conversely that applies to those who deny it out of hand.

resister
11-29-2017, 08:07 PM
Conversely that applies to those who deny it out of hand.

Some where in the middle.

Grokmaster
11-29-2017, 08:17 PM
I didn't say it was a lie. In fact, I am saying it is probably true.

Never try to speak on behalf of the master.

Master to your blow up doll, maybe...

Grokmaster
11-29-2017, 08:18 PM
It's not a meme. It's the basis for an active fbi investigation. You should read all of my threads everyday to keep up on the fast changing political environment.
The illegally funded FusionGPS dossier of lies was "the basis for an active FBI investigation", also, which Americans realize is a politically motivated FRAUD...

Captdon
11-29-2017, 09:49 PM
Gosh, I said nothing about the election. This is about the liklihood that our president is being blackmailed.

The kgb may have changed their name but that sure as hell is an ex kgb officer in charge of the country.

Fascinating, huh?

If it's about Trump it's about the election.

Imagine the KGB being interested in a barely known, in 1986, real estate developer. You think they knew they could use it on someone who didn't matter?

Captdon
11-29-2017, 09:50 PM
Tahuyaman forgets about the dossier. This is what the dossier was actually about. Everyone should read it before commenting.

Even the Democrats say the Dossier was fake,

Captdon
11-29-2017, 09:54 PM
Be patient. Mueller is rolling foreign agents who posed as administration officials as we speak.


3 indictments. yea, he's rolling through. One was for not disclosing ties to Turkey. One for money laundering before Trump. One was his helper. Papadopoulus was told no three times.

Captdon
11-29-2017, 09:57 PM
You are in denial.

Special counsel delays grand jury testimony amid signs of Flynn deal talksCNN.com - 1 hour ago

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...5UU_LYq1SQisvC (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/29/politics/special-counsel-michael-flynn/index.html&ved=0ahUKEwietK3b5-TXAhXEbRQKHamhD0oQqOcBCCYwAA&usg=AOvVaw2tF5mqME5UU_LYq1SQisvC)

Deal for what? Did Mueller tell you what the deal is? Is it possible Flynn is agreeing to a crime for a lesser sentence? Plea bargain are the majority of resolutions.

Captdon
11-29-2017, 09:59 PM
No.

Did I say anything that wasn't true?

Yea. The Dossier is fake so what you said is fake.

Tahuyaman
11-29-2017, 10:49 PM
That would more likely be Jim Jordan! LOL!

Can you explain that one?

Bethere
11-29-2017, 11:58 PM
Can you explain that one?

He and I both know Jordan. He's a little pig. You wouldn't understand.

Bethere
11-30-2017, 12:00 AM
3 indictments. yea, he's rolling through. One was for not disclosing ties to Turkey. One for money laundering before Trump. One was his helper. Papadopoulus was told no three times.

Don't be impatient.

Tahuyaman
11-30-2017, 12:00 AM
Can you explain that one?


He and I both know Jordan. He's a little pig. You wouldn't understand.
Did I ask you? No, I didn't.

Bethere
11-30-2017, 12:07 AM
The illegally funded FusionGPS dossier of lies was "the basis for an active FBI investigation", also, which Americans realize is a politically motivated FRAUD...

How was it illegal? It's illegal for a campaign to accept an in kind donation from a foreign national, but it isn't illegal to hire one.

See? You learned something today. Interaction with bethere is both entertaining and educational.

Bethere
11-30-2017, 12:09 AM
Did I ask you? No, I didn't.

That's why I didn't charge you for my services.

Tahuyaman
11-30-2017, 12:11 AM
That's why I didn't charge you for my services.

your services are worthless.

Bethere
11-30-2017, 12:12 AM
your services are worthless.

Are you mad at the gifted one?

Tahuyaman
11-30-2017, 12:14 AM
Are you mad at the gifted one?
Why would I be angry with you? You're irrelevant.....worthless.

resister
11-30-2017, 12:19 AM
How was it illegal? It's illegal for a campaign to accept an in kind donation from a foreign national, but it isn't illegal to hire one.

See? You learned something today. Interaction with bethere is both entertaining and educational.
Your funny, but still a 21292

Tahuyaman
11-30-2017, 01:09 AM
Bethere is a partisan hack.

Bethere
11-30-2017, 01:12 AM
How was it illegal? It's illegal for a campaign to accept an in kind donation from a foreign national, but it isn't illegal to hire one.

See? You learned something today. Interaction with bethere is both entertaining and educational.

Rule breakers can call me a troll or a partisan hack, but my statement above is both true and uncontested.

Feel free to disprove it.

I look forward to your learned responses.

resister
11-30-2017, 01:20 AM
Rule breakers can call me a troll or a partisan hack,

.21293

Bethere
11-30-2017, 09:26 AM
Don't forget to vote!

ripmeister
11-30-2017, 10:34 AM
Can you explain that one?
Inside joke between Bethere and me.

Adelaide
11-30-2017, 12:21 PM
I feel like it might be unlikely that Politco knows the operations of the KGB.

Bethere
11-30-2017, 02:27 PM
Inside joke between Bethere and me.

21297

AZ Jim
11-30-2017, 04:26 PM
Anyone that cant see the "dossier" for what it is, a work of fiction, with a little factual info sprinkled in and a pure political hit job is very gullible and very easily, manipulated.From you that is a very convincing statement. HaHaHaHaHa

resister
11-30-2017, 04:29 PM
From you that is a very convincing statement. HaHaHaHaHa
I see, you too have fallen prey to a discredited hit piece. Carry on! HAHA

Bethere
11-30-2017, 04:32 PM
From you that is a very convincing statement. HaHaHaHaHa

He loves to comment about pieces he hasn't read.

Docthehun
11-30-2017, 04:43 PM
Join resister in actually reading the dossier. Perhaps you can form a book club.

Book club? Geeez! Is that replacing; "need a tissue?"?

resister
11-30-2017, 04:47 PM
He loves to comment about pieces he hasn't read.
I can just watch the View if I want the latest dose of TDS. You make lots of assumptions, you are often mistaken.

Docthehun
11-30-2017, 04:48 PM
That would more likely be Jim Jordan! LOL!

Good one young man. By the way, just recently read that Jim was tied in 49th place with my new buddy, Warren as least effective Representatives. FYI - The very worst was 50th place........... O - H - I - O!!!!!!!

Docthehun
11-30-2017, 04:52 PM
Thanks guys. This has been pretty damn entertaining. Carry on.

AZ Jim
11-30-2017, 06:10 PM
We need to excuse resister on all these comments. He is just trying to live up to his 64 posts per day schedule.

resister
11-30-2017, 06:12 PM
We need to excuse @resister (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=2122) on all these comments. He is just trying to live up to his 64 posts per day schedule.
And you are not a man of your word. AZ Jim

Bethere
11-30-2017, 06:46 PM
Wow! This is a tremendous read about how Trump could have been/likely was compromised by the kgb.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/19/trump-first-moscow-trip-215842

Read it! Then vote in our poll.

AZ Jim
11-30-2017, 07:08 PM
And you are not a man of your word. @AZ Jim (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1901)How so Grasshopper?

Docthehun
11-30-2017, 07:12 PM
We need to excuse @resister (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=2122) on all these comments. He is just trying to live up to his 64 posts per day schedule.

Now, now; that's not helpful.

Docthehun
11-30-2017, 07:20 PM
Back to the topic. I suspect they have those sort of goods on him, but they've probably decided that "Teflon Don" would have the goods bounce off him, like everything else. He was right when he said he could stand in the middle of the street and pop somebody. So it probably didn't turn out to have the value the Ruskies hoped for, but hey, "A" for effort. Ruskies love Putin and ignore anything that may be attached to him as "fake" news. "Hey, the guy could of poisoned himself for all I know" and "Hey, people fall off balconies all the time".

resister
11-30-2017, 07:23 PM
How so Grasshopper?Nice try, but you will not bait me into revealing the contents of our PM.

You do not keep your word.

ripmeister
11-30-2017, 07:48 PM
Good one young man. By the way, just recently read that Jim was tied in 49th place with my new buddy, Warren as least effective Representatives. FYI - The very worst was 50th place........... O - H - I - O!!!!!!!
Why am I not suprised?

Bethere
12-01-2017, 07:10 AM
Why am I not suprised?

21309

Bethere
12-04-2017, 01:40 PM
Wow! This is a tremendous read about how Trump could have been/likely was compromised by the kgb.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/19/trump-first-moscow-trip-215842

Read it! Then vote in our poll.