Pamela Anderson sparks firestorm

[Common]

Of course the left and the femnists are hating on her for those statements but she makes a very valid point. After the first 40 known victims of Harvey Weinstein and ALL of hollywood knew what he was, how did 50 or more women put themselves in the position to be his victims also.


Pamela Anderson sparked a firestorm of criticism Friday after telling Megyn Kelly in an interview that alleged victims of Harvey Weintein’s sexual assault could have done more to avoid being victimized.

The 50-year-old former Baywatch star appeared on Megyn Kelly Today Thursday, where she told the NBC host that Weinstein’s alleged predations were “common knowledge” in the industry. Weinstein has been accused by more than 90 women of sexual harassment or assault, including at least ten women who claim the disgraced movie mogul raped them.
“It was common knowledge that certain producers or certain people in Hollywood are people to avoid, privately,” Anderson told Kelly. “You know what you’re getting into if you’re going into a hotel room alone.”
“Don’t go into a hotel room alone,” she continued. “If someone answers the door in a bathrobe, leave. These are things that are common sense, but I know Hollywood is very seductive and the people want to be famous. Sometimes you think you are going to be safe with an adult in a room. I don’t know where this security comes from, but somehow I dodged it all.”

http://thepoliticsforums.com/threads/93590-Pamela-Anderson-sparks-firestorm

[Peter1469]

That won't go over well in progressive world.

[donttread]

Of course the left and the femnists are hating on her for those statements but she makes a very valid point. After the first 40 known victims of Harvey Weinstein and ALL of hollywood knew what he was, how did 50 or more women put themselves in the position to be his victims also.


Pamela Anderson sparked a firestorm of criticism Friday after telling Megyn Kelly in an interview that alleged victims of Harvey Weintein’s sexual assault could have done more to avoid being victimized.

The 50-year-old former Baywatch star appeared on Megyn Kelly Today Thursday, where she told the NBC host that Weinstein’s alleged predations were “common knowledge” in the industry. Weinstein has been accused by more than 90 women of sexual harassment or assault, including at least ten women who claim the disgraced movie mogul raped them.
“It was common knowledge that certain producers or certain people in Hollywood are people to avoid, privately,” Anderson told Kelly. “You know what you’re getting into if you’re going into a hotel room alone.”
“Don’t go into a hotel room alone,” she continued. “If someone answers the door in a bathrobe, leave. These are things that are common sense, but I know Hollywood is very seductive and the people want to be famous. Sometimes you think you are going to be safe with an adult in a room. I don’t know where this security comes from, but somehow I dodged it all.”

http://thepoliticsforums.com/threads/93590-Pamela-Anderson-sparks-firestorm



Well she has always had a couple of good points.

[barb012]

I have a friend who was a male actor and he said that many men, straight or not, in order to advance their careers, they had to have sex with the gay male producer in order to get the part.

[Peter1469]

I have a friend who was a male actor and he said that many men, straight or not, in order to advance their careers, they had to have sex with the gay male producer in order to get the part.

It is the culture of Hollywood. Perhaps that will change now.

[Common]

I have a friend who was a male actor and he said that many men, straight or not, in order to advance their careers, they had to have sex with the gay male producer in order to get the part.
If you have sex with a gay producer for a part you are not straight you are gay

[HawkTheSlayer]

I have a friend who was a male actor and he said that many men, straight or not, in order to advance their careers, they had to have sex with the gay male producer in order to get the part.
Let's not forget Pammy's little uncoerced video with Tommy Lee on the boat.

[Tahuyaman]

Pamela Anderson has never been considered a beacon of intelligence, but at least she demonstrates basic common sense........


“It was common knowledge that certain producers or certain people in Hollywood are people to avoid, privately,” Anderson told Kelly. “You know what you’re getting into if you’re going into a hotel room alone.”
“Don’t go into a hotel room alone,” she continued. “If someone answers the door in a bathrobe, leave...

[MisterVeritis]

Let's not forget Pammy's little uncoerced video with Tommy Lee on the boat.
Link?

[Common]

Link?

Consensual sex tape long ago taken down from the internet, they might have been married at the time, it in fact is genuine, its just not around for download anymore

[MisterVeritis]

Consensual sex tape long ago taken down from the internet, they might have been married at the time, it in fact is genuine, its just not around for download anymore
Having never seen it I was hoping for a link to the video. :-)

[Common]

She will be vilified for these statements.. I am totally against any sexual abuse, harrassment but to try and make me believe ALL women have no culpability is absurd.

Women lie as much and as often as men.

[The Xl]

Consensual sex tape long ago taken down from the internet, they might have been married at the time, it in fact is genuine, its just not around for download anymore

Nothing ever compelely dissapears from the internet.

[Tahuyaman]

Let's not forget Pammy's little uncoerced video with Tommy Lee on the boat.


So, she filmed an episode with a dumb-ass she married. She's not a smart woman, but she seems to be able to choose her sexual partners for herself.

[donttread]

I have a friend who was a male actor and he said that many men, straight or not, in order to advance their careers, they had to have sex with the gay male producer in order to get the part.

Chose to , not had to. There are other careers , people change careers all the time.

[MisterVeritis]

So, she filmed an episode with a dumb-ass she married. She's not a smart woman, but she seems to be able to choose her sexual partners for herself.
More likely he recorded them.

[Tahuyaman]

More likely he recorded them.
Who cares?

[MisterVeritis]

More likely he recorded them.

Who cares?
Facts matter. How many women that you have sex with want to record your lovemaking?

[Tahuyaman]

Hollywood is ultimately about producing films which make money. They want their movies to feature actors and actresses which give them the opportunity to attract more viewers. Claiming one needs to have unwanted sex with some A-hole to get a part is an excuse.

[Ethereal]

Having never seen it I was hoping for a link to the video. :-)

Just go to any big porn website and type "Pam Anderson" in their search bar.

[Tahuyaman]

More likely he recorded them.

Facts matter. How many women that you have sex with want to record your lovemaking?

Does it make a difference which one wanted it recorded? Do you really care? How is that relevant to her comments here?

[MisterVeritis]

Facts matter.

Does it make a difference which one wanted it recorded? Do you really care? How is that relevant to her comments here?
Let's ask the women. How many of the women on this site initiate recording your sexual acts with your lovers? Or is it the man who usually wants a recording?

[Tahuyaman]

Facts matter.

Let's ask the women. How many of the women on this site initiate recording your sexual acts with your lovers? Or is it the man who usually wants a recording?

What does that have to do with her comments on this issue?

[Adelaide]

She will be vilified for these statements.. I am totally against any sexual abuse, harrassment but to try and make me believe ALL women have no culpability is absurd.

Women lie as much and as often as men.

Women make mistakes, but that doesn't make them responsible for the actions of a predator. Sure, there are some "common sense" ways to avoid being more vulnerable to be attacked but that doesn't remove the ultimate blame from the person who commits the crime.

[Tahuyaman]

Women make mistakes, but that doesn't make them responsible for the actions of a predator. Sure, there are some "common sense" ways to avoid being more vulnerable to be attacked but that doesn't remove the ultimate blame from the person who commits the crime. Anderson's point was that this behavior on the part of some powerful men was well known and could be avoided without damaging their career if one tried.

[Adelaide]

Anderson's point was that this behavior on the part of some powerful men was well known and could be avoided without damaging their career if one tried.
That might be possible, but it is not like Pamela Anderson ever rose above Baywatch. When was the last time she had a role? She was successful at what she did, but does she know what actually happens on the set of major films where there are "big wigs" like Weinstein?

[Tahuyaman]

Just as Peter1469 said, Anderson's comments are not received well by some in the progressive world.

[jimmyz]

Women have forever, used their vaginas to attain any number of favors. This is the dirty little secret that some but not many women have admitted publicly. If a gross woman were to answer the door naked or masturbate in front of me, it would be up to me to turn on my heels or stay and partake of the debauchery. That would be on me until a lawyer said we could make money on it years and years down the road.

[Grokmaster]

I have a friend who was a male actor and he said that many men, straight or not, in order to advance their careers, they had to have sex with the gay male producer in order to get the part.

Man...that sucks !!! :grin:

[Adelaide]

Just as @Peter1469 (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=10) said, Anderson's comments are not received well by some in the progressive world.

That has nothing to do with it. This isn't a left/right issue.

It takes one negative comment by an influential person to fuck up your reputation in many settings, and it would seem especially applicable in Hollywood. If an influential person invites you somewhere, like a bar or whatever, you're probably going to go and think it will be uncomfortable if you don't like them. You don't expect them to assault you. And young actresses may be particularly at risk because they don't know the rumors or whether the rumors are completely true. Members on this forum have questioned the validity of accusations, fair enough by the way, and people hearing rumors about someone might treat it the same way - could be true, could be false, could be sour grapes, could be an exaggeration...

It is more complex than Anderson is acknowledging. Her employment history in the industry is not extensive.

[Tahuyaman]

Peter1469, you were right.

[Tahuyaman]

But Pamela Anderson's comments are to be dismissed because she doesn't have the longest resumé in Hollywood.


Sheesh

[gamewell45]

Pamela Anderson has never been considered a beacon of intelligence, but at least she demonstrates basic common sense........

I think a twenty five watt light bulb is brighter then Pamela Anderson.

[Tahuyaman]

I think a twenty five watt light bulb is brighter then Pamela Anderson.
what do you think about her comments on this issue?

[gamewell45]

what do you think about her comments on this issue?

I think she's being a touch ignorant on the issue and the reason I say that is because she should know that not everyone is as street smart as she may have been; in particular some young men and women are very naive when they go to Hollywood or other media centers trying to gain access to the industry and are taken advantage of by unscrupulous perverts. They get caught off guard and are not sure how to react to advances made to them. Maybe I'm reading it wrong but she appears to be a bit standoffish on the issue.

[Grokmaster]

I think a twenty five watt light bulb is brighter then Pamela Anderson.

She's smarter than people think....just like Norma Jean Baker was....

[gamewell45]

She's smarter than people think....just like Norma Jean Baker was....

I suppose you could make that argument and could be right.

[Grokmaster]

I suppose you could make that argument and could be right.

I met her in a club in Key West, where my then-band was playing in 1989, when she was a Labatt's spokesmodel, on her way to Hollywood, (obviously), taking a quick vacation.

She is actually a pretty shrewd character. Her image is entirely calculated, based on what she observed in American showbiz.

[donttread]

Anderson's point was that this behavior on the part of some powerful men was well known and could be avoided without damaging their career if one tried.

Much like I have every right to go into the inner city talking trash and flashing cash. When I get beat up and robbed , it's still the robbers fault . But I'd rather not get beaten ad robbed than to be "a righteous victim" who WAS beaten and robbed.

[Tahuyaman]

I think she's being a touch ignorant on the issue and the reason I say that is because she should know that not everyone is as street smart as she may have been; in particular some young men and women are very naive when they go to Hollywood or other media centers trying to gain access to the industry and are taken advantage of by unscrupulous perverts. They get caught off guard and are not sure how to react to advances made to them. Maybe I'm reading it wrong but she appears to be a bit standoffish on the issue.


I'm sure many beautiful women many of whom aren't very smart have rejected these advances and become successful.

[Tahuyaman]

Much like I have every right to go into the inner city talking trash and flashing cash. When I get beat up and robbed , it's still the robbers fault . But I'd rather not get beaten ad robbed than to be "a righteous victim" who WAS beaten and robbed.


You're comparing apples to brussel sprouts.

[MisterVeritis]

Man...that sucks !!! :grin:
Either that or it is a pain in the ass.