Female Ex-FOX Host Accuses Trump

[Agent Zero]

A former syndicated Fox News host said Friday that President Trump (http://thehill.com/people/donald-trump) tried to kiss her in an elevator in "2005 or 2006," which she said surprised her but did not make her feel threatened.
It's unclear whether Trump was married at the time since Juliet Huddy does not recall the exact date, Page Six reported (https://pagesix.com/2017/12/08/ex-fox-news-anchor-claims-trump-tried-to-kiss-her/).
"He took me for lunch at Trump Tower, just us two," Huddy said on Compound Media's "Mornin'! With Bill Schulz." (https://www.compoundmedia.com/shows/mornin-w-bill-schulz-039/5a2957d7df86e314d90048c2/?audio=true) "He said goodbye to me in an elevator while his security guy was there; rather than kiss me on the cheek he leaned in to kiss me on the lips. I wasn't offended, I was kind of like, 'Oh my god.'"



https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/homenews/administration/364056-former-fox-news-anchor-trump-tried-to-kiss-me-on-the-lips%3Famp (https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/homenews/administration/364056-former-fox-news-anchor-trump-tried-to-kiss-me-on-the-lips%3Famp)

[resister]

Wonder how much the DNC paid this one? Let me guess, no wittnesse's or cameras?

Funny, Ex- fox.

So who is the security guy? What's his story, or even name?

[Crepitus]

Wonder how much the DNC paid this one? Let me guess, no wittnesse's or cameras?

Funny, Ex- fox.

So who is the security guy? What's his story, or even name?

Link to the DNC paying for anything like this?

[resister]

Link to the DNC paying for anything like this?
Link to the "security guys" name? How long have elevators had security cameras?

Want a link to DNC operatives on film saying they paid agitators to disrupt Trump rallies?

[Cletus]

Didn't feel threatened.

Was not offended.

There is no story here.

[Crepitus]

Link to the "security guys" name? How long have elevators had security cameras?

Want a link to DNC operatives on film saying they paid agitators to disrupt Trump rallies?

So in other words you don't have one, you made it up.

[Crepitus]

Didn't feel threatened.

Was not offended.

There is no story here.

Establishes a pattern of behavior.

[donttread]

https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/homenews/administration/364056-former-fox-news-anchor-trump-tried-to-kiss-me-on-the-lips%3Famp (https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/homenews/administration/364056-former-fox-news-anchor-trump-tried-to-kiss-me-on-the-lips%3Famp)

Clearly right up there with rape or being told to put out or be fired. Oh wait, no it's not like either of those things . Also it's so old and so insignificant to her that she can't even remember the YEAR! Except that it was at least 11 years ago. Please make this shit stop! She even says she did not feel threatened. Is it illegal to attempt to kiss a woman you just took to lunch? As long as "no means no " is practiced I don't see a huge problem. And please don't give me this "positive verbal affirmation " at each... base? Shit.
I'd of been laughed out of back seats for saying" may I kiss you now" or "may I move my right hand underneath your blouse" . The gals had a way of letting you know if the advance was OK or not and you accepted that. But it wasn't verbal.

[hanger4]

Establishes a pattern of behavior.You're right, a friendly kiss is so evil. :rofl:

[resister]

So in other words you don't have one, you made it up.
Here ya go, go ahead, deny video evidence.
https://youtu.be/5IuJGHuIkzY

[Beevee]

Here ya go, go ahead, deny video evidence.
https://youtu.be/5IuJGHuIkzY

Fake? Just like Trump's audio tape?

[resister]

Fake? Just like Trump's audio tape?
21490

[Hoosier8]

Establishes a pattern of behavior.

That some people kiss on the lips. IMPEACH!

I have a lady friend that is not interested in men that tries to kiss me on the lips when we part company and it makes me uncomfortable since we did not do that as raised.

[Chris]

You're right, a friendly kiss is so evil. :rofl:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-NDeJkOAhc

[Beevee]

21490

lol

[Tahuyaman]

Link to the DNC paying for anything like this?

OK.......... https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/10/25/the-clinton-camp-and-the-dnc-helped-pay-for-that-trump-russia-dossier-heres-what-it-means/


The Washington Post broke the story Tuesday night that the Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee helped pay for that now-famous dossier of research on President Trump (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/clinton-campaign-dnc-paid-for-research-that-led-to-russia-dossier/2017/10/24/226fabf0-b8e4-11e7-a908-a3470754bbb9_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_dossier-630pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.707164d050ef).

[donttread]

It might help if TV news started hiring average looking people. Power types are always looking for that trophy. This gal is a little on the hot side. A fact I'm sure she never used to her career advantage. It's a complete coincidence that reporters are so good looking.

[Agent Zero]

It might help if TV news started hiring average looking people. Power types are always looking for that trophy. This gal is a little on the hot side. A fact I'm sure she never used to her career advantage. It's a complete coincidence that reporters are so good looking.
So you’re saying it’s her fault?

isnt that like the rapist saying the girl he raped asked for it because of how she was dressed?

[Crepitus]

Here ya go, go ahead, deny video evidence.
https://youtu.be/5IuJGHuIkzY

Yea, that's already been debunked.

[donttread]

So you’re saying it’s her fault?

isnt that like the rapist saying the girl he raped asked for it because of how she was dressed?


First of all I don't think there is any "fault " to be had. It was a kiss after lunch. Secondly, no if there was fault it would not be hers because she looks good. However, trading on such looks to get where you want to go should be considered a problem by society, but it isn't. I don't know that she did that, but many do. Once again our mindless minions aproach a problem from just one angle , much like racism.
Keep in mind the entertainment business is full of unemployed people who can act and sign but aren't hired because they don't look like her.

[resister]

Yea, that's already been debunked.
Oh yeah? Prove it. You asked for evidence, now back your claim, if you can. Crepitus

[Captdon]

Establishes a pattern of behavior.

This evidence of nothing. A kiss? EAre you kidding or just not having a good year?

[Don]

The woman didn't accuse president Trump of anything. She related a story where she admitted she was a little hazy about the details.

[barb012]

So who cares!

[donttread]

So who cares!

Apparently ultra lib land.

[Tahuyaman]

Yea, that's already been debunked.
When a leftist uses the word "debunked" one can be sure the opposite is true.

[Cletus]

Establishes a pattern of behavior.

A single event establishes a pattern?

You might want to rethink that.

[Crepitus]

Oh yeah? Prove it. You asked for evidence, now back your claim, if you can. Crepitus

It's that O'Keefe liar. Everything he's ever done have been debunked. Project veritis has never posted 1 second of honest video. This is the same nut job who tried to get the Washington post to print a fake Roy Moore accusation, edited the planned parenthood videos beyond all recognition, and who knows what all else.

You are gonna hafta do better than posting debunked junk from a known liar.

BTW, turns out tRump made a large donation to him just before the Washington post debacle. Looks like it's the republicans who are paying for this kinda thing, not the democrats.

[Crepitus]

This evidence of nothing. A kiss? EAre you kidding or just not having a good year?

Don't be deliberately thick.

[Crepitus]

When a leftist uses the word "debunked" one can be sure the opposite is true.

Rebunked?

[Crepitus]

A single event establishes a pattern?

You might want to rethink that.

Lol @ "single event".

[hanger4]

Don't be deliberately thick.What did this female Ex-FOX Host accuse Trump of Crepitus ??

[Peter1469]

It's that O'Keefe liar. Everything he's ever done have been debunked. Project veritis has never posted 1 second of honest video. This is the same nut job who tried to get the Washington post to print a fake Roy Moore accusation, edited the planned parenthood videos beyond all recognition, and who knows what all else.

You are gonna hafta do better than posting debunked junk from a known liar.

BTW, turns out tRump made a large donation to him just before the Washington post debacle. Looks like it's the republicans who are paying for this kinda thing, not the democrats.
Debunk? No. Planned Parenthood are ghouls. Acorn was 100% corrupt. CNN producers/editors were actively anti-Trump. And it goes on.

[Crepitus]

Debunk? No. Planned Parenthood are ghouls. Acorn was 100% corrupt. CNN producers/editors were actively anti-Trump. And it goes on.

Sorry dude, all faked.

[resister]

It's that O'Keefe liar. Everything he's ever done have been debunked. Project veritis has never posted 1 second of honest video. This is the same nut job who tried to get the Washington post to print a fake Roy Moore accusation, edited the planned parenthood videos beyond all recognition, and who knows what all else.

You are gonna hafta do better than posting debunked junk from a known liar.

BTW, turns out tRump made a large donation to him just before the Washington post debacle. Looks like it's the republicans who are paying for this kinda thing, not the democrats.
I have a video of a known employee of the DNC, on tape saying damning things about democrat tactics, are you saying this guy was not employed by the DNC? Vs your statements with zero proof or links or ACTUALL VIDEOS.

[Tahuyaman]

Rebunked?
Unbunked.

[resister]

Hey Crepitus, this is from THE WASHINGTON TIMES



Two top Democratic strategists have exited the presidential campaign after explosive undercover videos showed them discussing voter fraud and their roles in planting paid agitators at campaign events for Republican candidate Donald Trump (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/donald-trump/).
Robert Creamer (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-creamer/), founder of Democracy Advocates (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democracy-advocates/) and the husband of Rep. Janice D. Schakowsky, Illinois Democrat, stepped down from the campaign Tuesday, a day after Scott Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/) was fired from his post as national field director of Americans United for Change.
Mr. Trump (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/donald-trump/), who has long complained of a “rigged” election system, said at a Tuesday rally in Colorado that the video released by the conservative group Project Veritas Action confirmed his suspicions of Democrat-sponsored political chicanery.
“The protesters are paid a lot of money by the [Democratic National Committee (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/)], and they kept saying, ‘I wonder why those people are here, because they never seem to have much on their mind other than stand up and protest,’” Mr. Trump (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/donald-trump/) told a crowd in Colorado Springs. “And yesterday it came out, but it was barely covered by the media. But it’s all over the internet. They were busted.”
Brad Woodhouse, Americans United for Change president, said in a late-Monday statement that Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/) “is no longer associated with Americans United for Change.”
He insisted that the Democratic political consulting firm has “always operated according to the highest ethical and legal standards.”

Mr. Creamer (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-creamer/), a four-decade Democratic strategist who pleaded guilty in 2005 to charges of bank fraud and tax violations, said in a statement that he was “unwilling to become a distraction to the important task of electing Hillary Clinton.”
“We regret the unprofessional and careless hypothetical conversations that were captured on hidden cameras of a temporary regional contractor for our firm, and he is no longer with us,” said Mr. Creamer (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-creamer/), who is also featured in the videos.
The two 16-minute videos were released Monday and Tuesday after a yearlong undercover investigation headed by Project Veritas’ James O’Keefe, known for his hidden-camera probes into Planned Parenthood, ACORN and voter fraud.
Mr. O’Keefe said the investigation reveals “compelling evidence of a dark-money conspiracy” and that he would continue to release videos as part of a series titled “Rigging the Election” until voters go to the polls on Nov. 8.
The first video shows Democratic strategists discussing how they hire agitators — including union members, homeless people and the mentally ill — to incite violence by provoking Trump (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/donald-trump/) supporters on camera at campaign stops.
Project Veritas released a second video Tuesday showing Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/) brainstorming over ways to commit voter fraud, such as by busing people from one state to another, while appearing to indicate that it had already been done in Iowa.
“It’s a pretty easy thing for Republicans to say, ‘Well, they’re busing people in,’” Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/) said. “Well, you know what? We’ve been busing people in to deal with you f–ing assholes for 50 years, and we’re not going to stop now. We’re just going to find a different way to do it. So, I mean I grew up with that idea. They used to bus people out to Iowa. If they needed people, there we’d bus people out to Iowa.”
The same video shows Mr. Creamer (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-creamer/) discussing a proposal by a Project Veritas investigator to register people to vote illegally by setting up a shell corporation.
“I’m going to write down these options,” Mr. Creamer (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-creamer/) said. “Let me see if I can chat with the people who are most involved in Hispanic voter registration.”
Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/), who has worked for the George Soros-funded People for the American Way, said his paid agitators fueled a Chicago protest in March that forced the Trump campaign to cancel its event.
“They’re starting confrontations in the line, right?” said Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/). “They’re not starting confrontations in the rally. Because once they’re inside the rally, they’re under Secret Service’s control. When they’re outside the rally, the media will cover it no matter where it happens. The key is initiating the conflict by having leading conversations with people who are naturally psychotic.”
Inciting Trump (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/donald-trump/) supporters was easy, he said.
“I mean, honestly, it’s not hard to get some of these assholes to pop off,” Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/) said. “It’s a matter of showing up, to want to get into the rally, in a Planned Parenthood T-shirt. Or, ‘Trump (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/donald-trump/) is a Nazi,’ you know. You can message to draw them out and draw them to punch you.”
Another operative, Aaron Black, who identified himself as “deputy rapid response director for the DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/) for all things Trump (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/donald-trump/) on the ground,” said he was with Mr. Creamer (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-creamer/)’s group Democracy Partners but that his work was supposed to be a secret.
“Nobody’s really supposed to know about me,” Mr. Black said. “So the Chicago protest, when they shut all that, that was us. It was more [Mr. Creamer (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-creamer/)] than me, but none of this is supposed to come back to us because we want it coming from people. We don’t want it to come from the party.”
He said the idea is for the protests to appear spontaneous, not orchestrated by the DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/).
“So if we do a protest and if it’s branded a DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/) protest, right away the press is going to say, ‘partisan,’” said Mr. Black, also known as “Aaron Minter,” according to the video.
“But if I’m in there coordinating with all the groups on the ground and sort of playing field general but they are the ones talking to the cameras, then it’s actually people, but if we send out press advisories with DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/) on them and Clinton campaign, it just doesn’t have the same effect,” he said.
The same day the video was released, Mr. Black posted a photo on Twitter showing protesters outside Trump Tower holding signs with messages such as, “Trump Demeans Women.”
Keeping the protesters’ connection to the DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/) hidden from the press was a priority, Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/) said.
“We have to be really careful because what we don’t need is for it to show up on CNN that the DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/) paid for X people to — that’s not going to happen,” he said.
Mr. O’Keefe said the first video raises questions about whether the Clinton campaign is coordinating with super PACs and independent expenditure committees in violation of campaign finance rules.
The Clinton campaign, DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/), Americans United for Change and Democracy Partners did not return requests for comment Tuesday.
The only public criticism of the videos has come from foes of Mr. O’Keefe’s past work such as Salon’s Brendan Gauthier, who said Project Veritas has been criticized for “strategically editing footage to make false accusations.”
In the video, Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/) made clear his connections to the DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/) and the Clinton campaign.
“We are contracted directly with the DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/) and the campaign both. I am contracted to [Mr. Creamer (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-creamer/)]. But I answer to the head of special events for the DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/) and the head of special events and political for the campaign,” said Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/).
He goes on to say, “The campaign pays DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/), DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/) pays Democracy Partners, Democracy Partners pays the Foval Group, the Foval Group goes and executes the sh— on the ground.”
Mr. Creamer (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-creamer/) indicated that he was in close contact with the Clinton campaign, saying, “We have a call with the campaign every day to go over the focuses that need to be undertaken.”
“Wherever Trump (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/donald-trump/) and Pence are going to be, we have events,” Mr. Creamer (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-creamer/) said. “And we have a whole team across the country that does that. Both consultants and people from the Democratic Party and the Democratic Party apparatus and people from the campaign, the Clinton campaign. And my role in the campaign is to manage all that.”
Another activist, Zulema Rodriguez, told the Project Veritas investigators, “I just had a call today with the campaign and the DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/). Every day at 1 o’clock.”
She also took credit for being involved with two anti-Trump (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/donald-trump/) events in March: the Chicago rally and another in Arizona in which anti-Trump (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/donald-trump/) protesters blocked a highway.
Federal Election Commission records unearthed by Project Veritas show that Ms. Rodriguez was paid nearly $2,000 on Feb. 29 by the Hillary for America campaign.
In conversations with Project Veritas reporters, Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/) described his operation as “bird dogging,” meaning that he places hired protesters in key positions at Republican campaign events, often in front of rallies or lines.
He said he has training centers in New York, Washington, Las Vegas, Colorado and Minneapolis, and that trainees include the mentally ill and homeless people.
“I’m saying we have mentally ill people that we pay to do sh—, make no mistake,” Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/) said. “Over the last 20 years. I’ve paid off a few homeless guys to do some crazy stuff, and I’ve also taken them for dinner and I’ve also made sure they had a hotel and a shower and I’ve put them in a program. I’ve done that.”
He also has contacts with unions such as the AFL-CIO. “But the reality is, a lot of people, especially our union guys, a lot of union guys, they’ll do whatever you want,” Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/) said. “They’re rock ‘n’ roll.”
Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/) also made it clear that he viewed Mr. Creamer (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-creamer/) as a mentor.
“I work for Bob Creamer one to one,” Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/) said in the video. “I’m the white hat. Democracy Partners is kind of dark hat. Bob Creamer is diabolical, and I love him for it.”
(Note: Graphic language in the video.)





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[Tahuyaman]

Debunk? No. Planned Parenthood are ghouls. Acorn was 100% corrupt. CNN producers/editors were actively anti-Trump. And it goes on.


Sorry dude, all faked.

No. The only thing faked was the defense for each and every one of those.

[Crepitus]

I have a video of a known employee of the DNC, on tape saying damning things about democrat tactics, are you saying this guy was not employed by the DNC? Vs your statements with zero proof or links or ACTUALL VIDEOS.

I'm saying project veritis lies like a cheap rug. I wouldn't trust them any farther than I could throw their offices.

[Tahuyaman]

I'm saying project veritis lies like a cheap rug. I wouldn't trust them any farther than I could throw their offices.
They only expose the left. You just don't like the methods they use to do that.

[Crepitus]

They only expose the left. You just don't like the methods they use to do that.

They aren't exposing anything. They are creating things.

[resister]

I'm saying project veritis lies like a cheap rug. I wouldn't trust them any farther than I could throw their offices.
How about the Washington times? Don't like them? I can post other liberal links on it. Post one credible link that discredits it, prove the guy in the video is not a DNC organizer.

[resister]

Hey Crepitus, this is from THE WASHINGTON TIMES



Two top Democratic strategists have exited the presidential campaign after explosive undercover videos showed them discussing voter fraud and their roles in planting paid agitators at campaign events for Republican candidate Donald Trump (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/donald-trump/).
Robert Creamer (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-creamer/), founder of Democracy Advocates (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democracy-advocates/) and the husband of Rep. Janice D. Schakowsky, Illinois Democrat, stepped down from the campaign Tuesday, a day after Scott Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/) was fired from his post as national field director of Americans United for Change.
Mr. Trump (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/donald-trump/), who has long complained of a “rigged” election system, said at a Tuesday rally in Colorado that the video released by the conservative group Project Veritas Action confirmed his suspicions of Democrat-sponsored political chicanery.
“The protesters are paid a lot of money by the [Democratic National Committee (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/)], and they kept saying, ‘I wonder why those people are here, because they never seem to have much on their mind other than stand up and protest,’” Mr. Trump (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/donald-trump/) told a crowd in Colorado Springs. “And yesterday it came out, but it was barely covered by the media. But it’s all over the internet. They were busted.”
Brad Woodhouse, Americans United for Change president, said in a late-Monday statement that Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/) “is no longer associated with Americans United for Change.”
He insisted that the Democratic political consulting firm has “always operated according to the highest ethical and legal standards.”

Mr. Creamer (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-creamer/), a four-decade Democratic strategist who pleaded guilty in 2005 to charges of bank fraud and tax violations, said in a statement that he was “unwilling to become a distraction to the important task of electing Hillary Clinton.”
“We regret the unprofessional and careless hypothetical conversations that were captured on hidden cameras of a temporary regional contractor for our firm, and he is no longer with us,” said Mr. Creamer (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-creamer/), who is also featured in the videos.
The two 16-minute videos were released Monday and Tuesday after a yearlong undercover investigation headed by Project Veritas’ James O’Keefe, known for his hidden-camera probes into Planned Parenthood, ACORN and voter fraud.
Mr. O’Keefe said the investigation reveals “compelling evidence of a dark-money conspiracy” and that he would continue to release videos as part of a series titled “Rigging the Election” until voters go to the polls on Nov. 8.
The first video shows Democratic strategists discussing how they hire agitators — including union members, homeless people and the mentally ill — to incite violence by provoking Trump (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/donald-trump/) supporters on camera at campaign stops.
Project Veritas released a second video Tuesday showing Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/) brainstorming over ways to commit voter fraud, such as by busing people from one state to another, while appearing to indicate that it had already been done in Iowa.
“It’s a pretty easy thing for Republicans to say, ‘Well, they’re busing people in,’” Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/) said. “Well, you know what? We’ve been busing people in to deal with you f–ing assholes for 50 years, and we’re not going to stop now. We’re just going to find a different way to do it. So, I mean I grew up with that idea. They used to bus people out to Iowa. If they needed people, there we’d bus people out to Iowa.”
The same video shows Mr. Creamer (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-creamer/) discussing a proposal by a Project Veritas investigator to register people to vote illegally by setting up a shell corporation.
“I’m going to write down these options,” Mr. Creamer (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-creamer/) said. “Let me see if I can chat with the people who are most involved in Hispanic voter registration.”
Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/), who has worked for the George Soros-funded People for the American Way, said his paid agitators fueled a Chicago protest in March that forced the Trump campaign to cancel its event.
“They’re starting confrontations in the line, right?” said Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/). “They’re not starting confrontations in the rally. Because once they’re inside the rally, they’re under Secret Service’s control. When they’re outside the rally, the media will cover it no matter where it happens. The key is initiating the conflict by having leading conversations with people who are naturally psychotic.”
Inciting Trump (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/donald-trump/) supporters was easy, he said.
“I mean, honestly, it’s not hard to get some of these assholes to pop off,” Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/) said. “It’s a matter of showing up, to want to get into the rally, in a Planned Parenthood T-shirt. Or, ‘Trump (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/donald-trump/) is a Nazi,’ you know. You can message to draw them out and draw them to punch you.”
Another operative, Aaron Black, who identified himself as “deputy rapid response director for the DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/) for all things Trump (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/donald-trump/) on the ground,” said he was with Mr. Creamer (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-creamer/)’s group Democracy Partners but that his work was supposed to be a secret.
“Nobody’s really supposed to know about me,” Mr. Black said. “So the Chicago protest, when they shut all that, that was us. It was more [Mr. Creamer (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-creamer/)] than me, but none of this is supposed to come back to us because we want it coming from people. We don’t want it to come from the party.”
He said the idea is for the protests to appear spontaneous, not orchestrated by the DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/).
“So if we do a protest and if it’s branded a DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/) protest, right away the press is going to say, ‘partisan,’” said Mr. Black, also known as “Aaron Minter,” according to the video.
“But if I’m in there coordinating with all the groups on the ground and sort of playing field general but they are the ones talking to the cameras, then it’s actually people, but if we send out press advisories with DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/) on them and Clinton campaign, it just doesn’t have the same effect,” he said.
The same day the video was released, Mr. Black posted a photo on Twitter showing protesters outside Trump Tower holding signs with messages such as, “Trump Demeans Women.”
Keeping the protesters’ connection to the DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/) hidden from the press was a priority, Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/) said.
“We have to be really careful because what we don’t need is for it to show up on CNN that the DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/) paid for X people to — that’s not going to happen,” he said.
Mr. O’Keefe said the first video raises questions about whether the Clinton campaign is coordinating with super PACs and independent expenditure committees in violation of campaign finance rules.
The Clinton campaign, DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/), Americans United for Change and Democracy Partners did not return requests for comment Tuesday.
The only public criticism of the videos has come from foes of Mr. O’Keefe’s past work such as Salon’s Brendan Gauthier, who said Project Veritas has been criticized for “strategically editing footage to make false accusations.”
In the video, Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/) made clear his connections to the DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/) and the Clinton campaign.
“We are contracted directly with the DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/) and the campaign both. I am contracted to [Mr. Creamer (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-creamer/)]. But I answer to the head of special events for the DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/) and the head of special events and political for the campaign,” said Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/).
He goes on to say, “The campaign pays DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/), DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/) pays Democracy Partners, Democracy Partners pays the Foval Group, the Foval Group goes and executes the sh— on the ground.”
Mr. Creamer (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-creamer/) indicated that he was in close contact with the Clinton campaign, saying, “We have a call with the campaign every day to go over the focuses that need to be undertaken.”
“Wherever Trump (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/donald-trump/) and Pence are going to be, we have events,” Mr. Creamer (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-creamer/) said. “And we have a whole team across the country that does that. Both consultants and people from the Democratic Party and the Democratic Party apparatus and people from the campaign, the Clinton campaign. And my role in the campaign is to manage all that.”
Another activist, Zulema Rodriguez, told the Project Veritas investigators, “I just had a call today with the campaign and the DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/). Every day at 1 o’clock.”
She also took credit for being involved with two anti-Trump (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/donald-trump/) events in March: the Chicago rally and another in Arizona in which anti-Trump (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/donald-trump/) protesters blocked a highway.
Federal Election Commission records unearthed by Project Veritas show that Ms. Rodriguez was paid nearly $2,000 on Feb. 29 by the Hillary for America campaign.
In conversations with Project Veritas reporters, Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/) described his operation as “bird dogging,” meaning that he places hired protesters in key positions at Republican campaign events, often in front of rallies or lines.
He said he has training centers in New York, Washington, Las Vegas, Colorado and Minneapolis, and that trainees include the mentally ill and homeless people.
“I’m saying we have mentally ill people that we pay to do sh—, make no mistake,” Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/) said. “Over the last 20 years. I’ve paid off a few homeless guys to do some crazy stuff, and I’ve also taken them for dinner and I’ve also made sure they had a hotel and a shower and I’ve put them in a program. I’ve done that.”
He also has contacts with unions such as the AFL-CIO. “But the reality is, a lot of people, especially our union guys, a lot of union guys, they’ll do whatever you want,” Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/) said. “They’re rock ‘n’ roll.”
Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/) also made it clear that he viewed Mr. Creamer (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-creamer/) as a mentor.
“I work for Bob Creamer one to one,” Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/) said in the video. “I’m the white hat. Democracy Partners is kind of dark hat. Bob Creamer is diabolical, and I love him for it.”
(Note: Graphic language in the video.)





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[Peter1469]

Sorry dude, all faked.


Of course they were not faked. You could question the editing to take out the dead time. But Planned Parent Hood employees did talk about selling baby parts. CNN producers / editors did talk about being anti-trump in their stories. Etc.

[Peter1469]

We could make a case that Media Matters lies and misrepresents. Easy.

[resister]

Of course they were not faked. You could question the editing to take out the dead time. But Planned Parent Hood employees did talk about selling baby parts. CNN producers / editors did talk about being anti-trump in their stories. Etc.
He will just flat out deny anything, no matter the evidence, arguing facts he does not like to admit is like this, only less productive....


21502

[gamewell45]

It might help if TV news started hiring average looking people. Power types are always looking for that trophy. This gal is a little on the hot side. A fact I'm sure she never used to her career advantage. It's a complete coincidence that reporters are so good looking.

I agree; i'd love to see tv stations/cable news channels hire a few women who weight 300lbs with facial hair and guys who are toads. Unfortunately it's all about ratings and money for these stations/news channels. For the most part it's always been that way, especially since the late 1970's and upward and unlikely to change anytime soon.

[resister]

I agree; i'd love to see tv stations/cable news channels hire a few women who weight 300lbs with facial hair and guys who are toads. Unfortunately it's all about ratings and money for these stations/news channels. For the most part it's always been that way, especially since the late 1970's and upward and unlikely to change anytime soon.
People see enough of that everyday, when the news comes on, we want to see something easy on the eyes (at least this is the producers reasoning)

[Tahuyaman]

They aren't exposing anything. They are creating things. They didn't invent corruption.

[gamewell45]

People see enough of that everyday, when the news comes on, we want to see something easy on the eyes (at least this is the producers reasoning)

Haha I can understand that; guess your not being unreasonable; not to worry; nothing is going to change anytime soon. :)

[Crepitus]

They didn't invent corruption.

Sure they do, they aren't clever enough to find it.

[Crepitus]

Of course they were not faked. You could question the editing to take out the dead time. But Planned Parent Hood employees did talk about selling baby parts. CNN producers / editors did talk about being anti-trump in their stories. Etc.

Of course they were. Creative editing to make them sound like they were saying something they were not. The narrative was created out of whole cloth in all cases.

[resister]

Hey Crepitus, this is from THE WASHINGTON TIMES



Two top Democratic strategists have exited the presidential campaign after explosive undercover videos showed them discussing voter fraud and their roles in planting paid agitators at campaign events for Republican candidate Donald Trump (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/donald-trump/).
Robert Creamer (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-creamer/), founder of Democracy Advocates (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democracy-advocates/) and the husband of Rep. Janice D. Schakowsky, Illinois Democrat, stepped down from the campaign Tuesday, a day after Scott Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/) was fired from his post as national field director of Americans United for Change.
Mr. Trump (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/donald-trump/), who has long complained of a “rigged” election system, said at a Tuesday rally in Colorado that the video released by the conservative group Project Veritas Action confirmed his suspicions of Democrat-sponsored political chicanery.
“The protesters are paid a lot of money by the [Democratic National Committee (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/)], and they kept saying, ‘I wonder why those people are here, because they never seem to have much on their mind other than stand up and protest,’” Mr. Trump (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/donald-trump/) told a crowd in Colorado Springs. “And yesterday it came out, but it was barely covered by the media. But it’s all over the internet. They were busted.”
Brad Woodhouse, Americans United for Change president, said in a late-Monday statement that Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/) “is no longer associated with Americans United for Change.”
He insisted that the Democratic political consulting firm has “always operated according to the highest ethical and legal standards.”

Mr. Creamer (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-creamer/), a four-decade Democratic strategist who pleaded guilty in 2005 to charges of bank fraud and tax violations, said in a statement that he was “unwilling to become a distraction to the important task of electing Hillary Clinton.”
“We regret the unprofessional and careless hypothetical conversations that were captured on hidden cameras of a temporary regional contractor for our firm, and he is no longer with us,” said Mr. Creamer (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-creamer/), who is also featured in the videos.
The two 16-minute videos were released Monday and Tuesday after a yearlong undercover investigation headed by Project Veritas’ James O’Keefe, known for his hidden-camera probes into Planned Parenthood, ACORN and voter fraud.
Mr. O’Keefe said the investigation reveals “compelling evidence of a dark-money conspiracy” and that he would continue to release videos as part of a series titled “Rigging the Election” until voters go to the polls on Nov. 8.
The first video shows Democratic strategists discussing how they hire agitators — including union members, homeless people and the mentally ill — to incite violence by provoking Trump (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/donald-trump/) supporters on camera at campaign stops.
Project Veritas released a second video Tuesday showing Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/) brainstorming over ways to commit voter fraud, such as by busing people from one state to another, while appearing to indicate that it had already been done in Iowa.
“It’s a pretty easy thing for Republicans to say, ‘Well, they’re busing people in,’” Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/) said. “Well, you know what? We’ve been busing people in to deal with you f–ing assholes for 50 years, and we’re not going to stop now. We’re just going to find a different way to do it. So, I mean I grew up with that idea. They used to bus people out to Iowa. If they needed people, there we’d bus people out to Iowa.”
The same video shows Mr. Creamer (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-creamer/) discussing a proposal by a Project Veritas investigator to register people to vote illegally by setting up a shell corporation.
“I’m going to write down these options,” Mr. Creamer (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-creamer/) said. “Let me see if I can chat with the people who are most involved in Hispanic voter registration.”
Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/), who has worked for the George Soros-funded People for the American Way, said his paid agitators fueled a Chicago protest in March that forced the Trump campaign to cancel its event.
“They’re starting confrontations in the line, right?” said Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/). “They’re not starting confrontations in the rally. Because once they’re inside the rally, they’re under Secret Service’s control. When they’re outside the rally, the media will cover it no matter where it happens. The key is initiating the conflict by having leading conversations with people who are naturally psychotic.”
Inciting Trump (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/donald-trump/) supporters was easy, he said.
“I mean, honestly, it’s not hard to get some of these assholes to pop off,” Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/) said. “It’s a matter of showing up, to want to get into the rally, in a Planned Parenthood T-shirt. Or, ‘Trump (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/donald-trump/) is a Nazi,’ you know. You can message to draw them out and draw them to punch you.”
Another operative, Aaron Black, who identified himself as “deputy rapid response director for the DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/) for all things Trump (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/donald-trump/) on the ground,” said he was with Mr. Creamer (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-creamer/)’s group Democracy Partners but that his work was supposed to be a secret.
“Nobody’s really supposed to know about me,” Mr. Black said. “So the Chicago protest, when they shut all that, that was us. It was more [Mr. Creamer (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-creamer/)] than me, but none of this is supposed to come back to us because we want it coming from people. We don’t want it to come from the party.”
He said the idea is for the protests to appear spontaneous, not orchestrated by the DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/).
“So if we do a protest and if it’s branded a DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/) protest, right away the press is going to say, ‘partisan,’” said Mr. Black, also known as “Aaron Minter,” according to the video.
“But if I’m in there coordinating with all the groups on the ground and sort of playing field general but they are the ones talking to the cameras, then it’s actually people, but if we send out press advisories with DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/) on them and Clinton campaign, it just doesn’t have the same effect,” he said.
The same day the video was released, Mr. Black posted a photo on Twitter showing protesters outside Trump Tower holding signs with messages such as, “Trump Demeans Women.”
Keeping the protesters’ connection to the DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/) hidden from the press was a priority, Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/) said.
“We have to be really careful because what we don’t need is for it to show up on CNN that the DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/) paid for X people to — that’s not going to happen,” he said.
Mr. O’Keefe said the first video raises questions about whether the Clinton campaign is coordinating with super PACs and independent expenditure committees in violation of campaign finance rules.
The Clinton campaign, DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/), Americans United for Change and Democracy Partners did not return requests for comment Tuesday.
The only public criticism of the videos has come from foes of Mr. O’Keefe’s past work such as Salon’s Brendan Gauthier, who said Project Veritas has been criticized for “strategically editing footage to make false accusations.”
In the video, Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/) made clear his connections to the DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/) and the Clinton campaign.
“We are contracted directly with the DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/) and the campaign both. I am contracted to [Mr. Creamer (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-creamer/)]. But I answer to the head of special events for the DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/) and the head of special events and political for the campaign,” said Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/).
He goes on to say, “The campaign pays DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/), DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/) pays Democracy Partners, Democracy Partners pays the Foval Group, the Foval Group goes and executes the sh— on the ground.”
Mr. Creamer (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-creamer/) indicated that he was in close contact with the Clinton campaign, saying, “We have a call with the campaign every day to go over the focuses that need to be undertaken.”
“Wherever Trump (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/donald-trump/) and Pence are going to be, we have events,” Mr. Creamer (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-creamer/) said. “And we have a whole team across the country that does that. Both consultants and people from the Democratic Party and the Democratic Party apparatus and people from the campaign, the Clinton campaign. And my role in the campaign is to manage all that.”
Another activist, Zulema Rodriguez, told the Project Veritas investigators, “I just had a call today with the campaign and the DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/). Every day at 1 o’clock.”
She also took credit for being involved with two anti-Trump (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/donald-trump/) events in March: the Chicago rally and another in Arizona in which anti-Trump (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/donald-trump/) protesters blocked a highway.
Federal Election Commission records unearthed by Project Veritas show that Ms. Rodriguez was paid nearly $2,000 on Feb. 29 by the Hillary for America campaign.
In conversations with Project Veritas reporters, Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/) described his operation as “bird dogging,” meaning that he places hired protesters in key positions at Republican campaign events, often in front of rallies or lines.
He said he has training centers in New York, Washington, Las Vegas, Colorado and Minneapolis, and that trainees include the mentally ill and homeless people.
“I’m saying we have mentally ill people that we pay to do sh—, make no mistake,” Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/) said. “Over the last 20 years. I’ve paid off a few homeless guys to do some crazy stuff, and I’ve also taken them for dinner and I’ve also made sure they had a hotel and a shower and I’ve put them in a program. I’ve done that.”
He also has contacts with unions such as the AFL-CIO. “But the reality is, a lot of people, especially our union guys, a lot of union guys, they’ll do whatever you want,” Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/) said. “They’re rock ‘n’ roll.”
Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/) also made it clear that he viewed Mr. Creamer (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-creamer/) as a mentor.
“I work for Bob Creamer one to one,” Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/) said in the video. “I’m the white hat. Democracy Partners is kind of dark hat. Bob Creamer is diabolical, and I love him for it.”
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[Kalkin]

Establishes a pattern of behavior.

Even if true, one time does not a pattern make.

[Kalkin]

So you’re saying it’s her fault?
What's her fault? That he allegedly tried to kiss her and, if true, she wasn't upset or threatened? Oooh, stop the m-f'n presses... lol.

[Kalkin]

They aren't exposing anything. They are creating things.
Yeah, they're creating big headaches for liberal democrats.

[Peter1469]

Of course they were. Creative editing to make them sound like they were saying something they were not. The narrative was created out of whole cloth in all cases.

Incorrect.

[Dr. Who]

Even if true, one time does not a pattern make.

Recall that he did say that when he meets a beautiful woman that he wants to kiss them - with the implication that he does - reference to eating tic tacs before hand. It would seem that this has been corroborated. Now I doubt that a history of stolen kisses makes him a perv per se - but it's crossing a boundary. In fact, it is interpreted as harassment when it is unwanted. However, during the same confession about stealing kisses, he mentioned another behavior. One far less benign which if reported at the time would have had him charged with sexual assault.


As it happens he is currently being sued for defamation and sexual harassment, including unwanted touching. https://www.npr.org/2017/12/05/568618889/lawsuit-could-put-trumps-sexual-misconduct-accusers-back-in-spotlight

[Crepitus]

Even if true, one time does not a pattern make.

One time? Do you live under a rock?

[Crepitus]

Yeah, they're creating big headaches for liberal democrats.

Nope they specialize in alternative facts for conservatives.

[Crepitus]

Incorrect.

Insisting won't make it true Peter.

[Tahuyaman]

Of course they were. Creative editing to make them sound like they were saying something they were not. The narrative was created out of whole cloth in all cases.

listen to the unedited recording. It was even worse.


Liberals just can't seem to come to terms with the truth.

[Crepitus]

listen to the unedited recording. It was even worse.


Liberals just can't seem to come to terms with the truth.

There is no truth there.

[Chris]

Insisting won't make it true Peter.

Insisting won't make it false, crep. Mexican standoff!!

[Ravens Fan]

There is no truth there.
Then you guys should be just fine with a DOJ investigation, right?

[Crepitus]

Then you guys should be just fine with a DOJ investigation, right?

Bring it on.

[Tahuyaman]

listen to the unedited recording. It was even worse.


Liberals just can't seem to come to terms with the truth.


There is no truth there.


My comment was the absolute truth.

[Kalkin]

Recall that he did say that when he meets a beautiful woman that he wants to kiss them - with the implication that he does - reference to eating tic tacs before hand.
So what? When I meet a beautiful woman, I want to go straight to the cunnilingus. Trump is too timid.

[Kalkin]

One time?
Yes, one time he allegedly kissed a woman on an elevator.


Do you live under a rock?
Nope, I live under a roof. Think of it as the equivalent of your bridge.

[Crepitus]

Yes, one time he allegedly kissed a woman on an elevator.


Nope, I live under a roof. Think of it as the equivalent of your bridge.

Lol, call it what you want but if you think that's only one instance then you live under a rock.

21509

[Kalkin]

Lol, call it what you want but if you think that's only one instance then you live under a rock.

21509
Silly pictures won't make your statements true. Give me another example of Trump trying to kiss a woman in an elevator. If you can't, then you are just talking out your ass again. The only "pattern" here is you continually coming up with nothingburgers because you're still devastated over hillary's loss.

[Crepitus]

Silly pictures won't make your statements true. Give me another example of Trump trying to kiss a woman in an elevator. If you can't, then you are just talking out your ass again. The only "pattern" here is you continually coming up with nothingburgers because you're still devastated over hillary's loss.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/08/politics/donald-trump-woman-incident/index.html

2 seconds with google.

[Kalkin]

http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/08/politics/donald-trump-woman-incident/index.html

2 seconds with google.
http://crepitus (http://crepitus)isFOS.html
O seconds with google

[Crepitus]

http://crepitus (http://crepitus)isFOS.html
O seconds with google

So, you got nuthin then?

[Kalkin]

So, you got nuthin then?
I got your number, metaphorically speaking. You need to think faster, better, and more logically if you want to impress anyone here.

[resister]

Link to the DNC paying for anything like this?


So in other words you don't have one, you made it up.


Here ya go, go ahead, deny video evidence.
https://youtu.be/5IuJGHuIkzY


Yea, that's already been debunked.


Oh yeah? Prove it. You asked for evidence, now back your claim, if you can. @Crepitus (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1345)


Hey Crepitus, this is from THE WASHINGTON TIMES



Two top Democratic strategists have exited the presidential campaign after explosive undercover videos showed them discussing voter fraud and their roles in planting paid agitators at campaign events for Republican candidate Donald Trump (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/donald-trump/).
Robert Creamer (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-creamer/), founder of Democracy Advocates (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democracy-advocates/) and the husband of Rep. Janice D. Schakowsky, Illinois Democrat, stepped down from the campaign Tuesday, a day after Scott Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/) was fired from his post as national field director of Americans United for Change.
Mr. Trump (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/donald-trump/), who has long complained of a “rigged” election system, said at a Tuesday rally in Colorado that the video released by the conservative group Project Veritas Action confirmed his suspicions of Democrat-sponsored political chicanery.
“The protesters are paid a lot of money by the [Democratic National Committee (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/)], and they kept saying, ‘I wonder why those people are here, because they never seem to have much on their mind other than stand up and protest,’” Mr. Trump (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/donald-trump/) told a crowd in Colorado Springs. “And yesterday it came out, but it was barely covered by the media. But it’s all over the internet. They were busted.”
Brad Woodhouse, Americans United for Change president, said in a late-Monday statement that Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/) “is no longer associated with Americans United for Change.”
He insisted that the Democratic political consulting firm has “always operated according to the highest ethical and legal standards.”

Mr. Creamer (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-creamer/), a four-decade Democratic strategist who pleaded guilty in 2005 to charges of bank fraud and tax violations, said in a statement that he was “unwilling to become a distraction to the important task of electing Hillary Clinton.”
“We regret the unprofessional and careless hypothetical conversations that were captured on hidden cameras of a temporary regional contractor for our firm, and he is no longer with us,” said Mr. Creamer (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-creamer/), who is also featured in the videos.
The two 16-minute videos were released Monday and Tuesday after a yearlong undercover investigation headed by Project Veritas’ James O’Keefe, known for his hidden-camera probes into Planned Parenthood, ACORN and voter fraud.
Mr. O’Keefe said the investigation reveals “compelling evidence of a dark-money conspiracy” and that he would continue to release videos as part of a series titled “Rigging the Election” until voters go to the polls on Nov. 8.
The first video shows Democratic strategists discussing how they hire agitators — including union members, homeless people and the mentally ill — to incite violence by provoking Trump (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/donald-trump/) supporters on camera at campaign stops.
Project Veritas released a second video Tuesday showing Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/) brainstorming over ways to commit voter fraud, such as by busing people from one state to another, while appearing to indicate that it had already been done in Iowa.
“It’s a pretty easy thing for Republicans to say, ‘Well, they’re busing people in,’” Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/) said. “Well, you know what? We’ve been busing people in to deal with you f–ing assholes for 50 years, and we’re not going to stop now. We’re just going to find a different way to do it. So, I mean I grew up with that idea. They used to bus people out to Iowa. If they needed people, there we’d bus people out to Iowa.”
The same video shows Mr. Creamer (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-creamer/) discussing a proposal by a Project Veritas investigator to register people to vote illegally by setting up a shell corporation.
“I’m going to write down these options,” Mr. Creamer (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-creamer/) said. “Let me see if I can chat with the people who are most involved in Hispanic voter registration.”
Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/), who has worked for the George Soros-funded People for the American Way, said his paid agitators fueled a Chicago protest in March that forced the Trump campaign to cancel its event.
“They’re starting confrontations in the line, right?” said Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/). “They’re not starting confrontations in the rally. Because once they’re inside the rally, they’re under Secret Service’s control. When they’re outside the rally, the media will cover it no matter where it happens. The key is initiating the conflict by having leading conversations with people who are naturally psychotic.”
Inciting Trump (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/donald-trump/) supporters was easy, he said.
“I mean, honestly, it’s not hard to get some of these assholes to pop off,” Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/) said. “It’s a matter of showing up, to want to get into the rally, in a Planned Parenthood T-shirt. Or, ‘Trump (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/donald-trump/) is a Nazi,’ you know. You can message to draw them out and draw them to punch you.”
Another operative, Aaron Black, who identified himself as “deputy rapid response director for the DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/) for all things Trump (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/donald-trump/) on the ground,” said he was with Mr. Creamer (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-creamer/)’s group Democracy Partners but that his work was supposed to be a secret.
“Nobody’s really supposed to know about me,” Mr. Black said. “So the Chicago protest, when they shut all that, that was us. It was more [Mr. Creamer (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-creamer/)] than me, but none of this is supposed to come back to us because we want it coming from people. We don’t want it to come from the party.”
He said the idea is for the protests to appear spontaneous, not orchestrated by the DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/).
“So if we do a protest and if it’s branded a DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/) protest, right away the press is going to say, ‘partisan,’” said Mr. Black, also known as “Aaron Minter,” according to the video.
“But if I’m in there coordinating with all the groups on the ground and sort of playing field general but they are the ones talking to the cameras, then it’s actually people, but if we send out press advisories with DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/) on them and Clinton campaign, it just doesn’t have the same effect,” he said.
The same day the video was released, Mr. Black posted a photo on Twitter showing protesters outside Trump Tower holding signs with messages such as, “Trump Demeans Women.”
Keeping the protesters’ connection to the DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/) hidden from the press was a priority, Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/) said.
“We have to be really careful because what we don’t need is for it to show up on CNN that the DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/) paid for X people to — that’s not going to happen,” he said.
Mr. O’Keefe said the first video raises questions about whether the Clinton campaign is coordinating with super PACs and independent expenditure committees in violation of campaign finance rules.
The Clinton campaign, DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/), Americans United for Change and Democracy Partners did not return requests for comment Tuesday.
The only public criticism of the videos has come from foes of Mr. O’Keefe’s past work such as Salon’s Brendan Gauthier, who said Project Veritas has been criticized for “strategically editing footage to make false accusations.”
In the video, Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/) made clear his connections to the DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/) and the Clinton campaign.
“We are contracted directly with the DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/) and the campaign both. I am contracted to [Mr. Creamer (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-creamer/)]. But I answer to the head of special events for the DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/) and the head of special events and political for the campaign,” said Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/).
He goes on to say, “The campaign pays DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/), DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/) pays Democracy Partners, Democracy Partners pays the Foval Group, the Foval Group goes and executes the sh— on the ground.”
Mr. Creamer (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-creamer/) indicated that he was in close contact with the Clinton campaign, saying, “We have a call with the campaign every day to go over the focuses that need to be undertaken.”
“Wherever Trump (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/donald-trump/) and Pence are going to be, we have events,” Mr. Creamer (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-creamer/) said. “And we have a whole team across the country that does that. Both consultants and people from the Democratic Party and the Democratic Party apparatus and people from the campaign, the Clinton campaign. And my role in the campaign is to manage all that.”
Another activist, Zulema Rodriguez, told the Project Veritas investigators, “I just had a call today with the campaign and the DNC (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/). Every day at 1 o’clock.”
She also took credit for being involved with two anti-Trump (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/donald-trump/) events in March: the Chicago rally and another in Arizona in which anti-Trump (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/donald-trump/) protesters blocked a highway.
Federal Election Commission records unearthed by Project Veritas show that Ms. Rodriguez was paid nearly $2,000 on Feb. 29 by the Hillary for America campaign.
In conversations with Project Veritas reporters, Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/) described his operation as “bird dogging,” meaning that he places hired protesters in key positions at Republican campaign events, often in front of rallies or lines.
He said he has training centers in New York, Washington, Las Vegas, Colorado and Minneapolis, and that trainees include the mentally ill and homeless people.
“I’m saying we have mentally ill people that we pay to do sh—, make no mistake,” Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/) said. “Over the last 20 years. I’ve paid off a few homeless guys to do some crazy stuff, and I’ve also taken them for dinner and I’ve also made sure they had a hotel and a shower and I’ve put them in a program. I’ve done that.”
He also has contacts with unions such as the AFL-CIO. “But the reality is, a lot of people, especially our union guys, a lot of union guys, they’ll do whatever you want,” Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/) said. “They’re rock ‘n’ roll.”
Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/) also made it clear that he viewed Mr. Creamer (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-creamer/) as a mentor.
“I work for Bob Creamer one to one,” Mr. Foval (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/scott-foval/) said in the video. “I’m the white hat. Democracy Partners is kind of dark hat. Bob Creamer is diabolical, and I love him for it.”
(Note: Graphic language in the video.)





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@<a href="http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1345" target="_blank">Crepitus</a> still waiting on you to prove your claim, you ask for evidence I post it, you say Nuh huhh and say your opinion proves it wrong. Lets see some proof or don't bother asking me to prove anything for you again

[resister]

Crepitus ^ Care to provide proof ?

[Crepitus]

Crepitus ^ Care to provide proof ?

So because O'Keefe says so?

I don't think so.

[Crepitus]

I got your number, metaphorically speaking. You need to think faster, better, and more logically if you want to impress anyone here.

Lol, needing to impress you would be a sad state of affairs indeed. It would be easily done mind you but hopefully I never sink that low.

[resister]

So because O'Keefe says so?

I don't think so.You still have yet to prove it wrong. Is the Washington times credible, care to prove them wrong?

Or you could do the logical thing and admit they got busted, red handed on tape. Not that I expect it to happen.

[The Xl]

Oh boy, more unsubstantiated conjecture. This changes everything.

[Kalkin]

It would be easily done mind you but hopefully I never sink that low.
Hopefully you learn to use commas so you don't appear so uneducated.

[Crepitus]

Hopefully you learn to use commas so you don't appear so uneducated.

That sentence doesn't require a comma.

[nathanbforrest45]

It could easily be done, mind you.
Hopefully, I'll never sink below that.

Better

[Kalkin]

That sentence doesn't require a comma.

Not to the poorly educated.

[resister]

Link to the DNC paying for anything like this?


So in other words you don't have one, you made it up.


Here ya go, go ahead, deny video evidence.
https://youtu.be/5IuJGHuIkzY


Yea, that's already been debunked.


Oh yeah? Prove it. You asked for evidence, now back your claim, if you can. @Crepitus (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1345)


You still have yet to prove it wrong. Is the Washington times credible, care to prove them wrong?

Or you could do the logical thing and admit they got busted, red handed on tape. Not that I expect it to happen.

[Crepitus]

Not to the poorly educated.

Not to anyone.

[Kalkin]

Not to anyone.
This is correct:

It could easily be done, mind you.
Hopefully, I'll never sink below that.
This is incorrect:

It would be easily done mind you but hopefully I never sink that low.


The more you deny it, the less educated you appear.

[Crepitus]

This is correct:

This is incorrect:



The more you deny it, the less educated you appear.

Sure, if, you're Captain, Kirk. Why, do you, conservatives, talk that, way?

[Kalkin]

Sure, if, you're Captain, Kirk. Why, do you, conservatives, talk that, way?

You just keep making it worse. Pride is so embarrassing when it's self destructive.

[Crepitus]

You just keep making it worse. Pride is so embarrassing when it's self destructive.

What? There are a couple of.posters here who actually do that.

[donttread]

We need to have an award for most ridiculous sex harrassment claim. My two nominees are:
1) This gal whom an evil man attempted to kiss after what could be construed as a date over ten years ago.
2) The shameless actress who supposedly let a 90 year old man in a wheelchair group her so she could get a photo with him and then tried to jump on the band wagon 4 years later. ( He's was in a wheel chair, walk away, LOL)

[donttread]

We need to have an award for most ridiculous sex harrassment claim. My two nominees are:
1) This gal whom an evil man attempted to kiss after what could be construed as a date over ten years ago.
2) The shameless actress who supposedly let a 90 year old man in a wheelchair group her so she could get a photo with him and then tried to jump on the band wagon 4 years later. ( He's was in a wheel chair, walk away, LOL)

Any other nominees?

[resister]

What? There are a couple of.posters here who actually do that.

Ya think? Guess who one is? Got shovel, will dig!

[Crepitus]

Ya think? Guess who one is? Got shovel, will dig!

Lol, the period is too damn close to the space bar on this damn phone!