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Chris
12-16-2017, 12:31 PM
More evidence the so-called-by-the-left alt-right is socialist.

Remember...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGhXo_a5NAM

Now they recruit the left on socialist grounds: Alt-right goes anti-capitalist? Well, so they say (https://www.salon.com/2017/12/16/alt-right-goes-anti-capitalist-well-so-they-say/):


The alt-right is looking to expand its ranks, and prominent leaders of the notorious white supremacist movement apparently believe that leftists are an ideal target for their recruiting efforts. This is according to a recent article in the Nation by Donna Minkowitz, who last month attended a white supremacist conference in Maryland organized by Richard Spencer’s National Policy Institute. Minkowitz reports that leading members of the alt-right are currently strategizing how to appeal to leftists — white male leftists, that is — and their plan is fairly straightforward.

“We need to be explicitly anti-capitalist. There’s no other way forward for our movement,” declared Eli Mosley, one of the panelists at the event and former head of the white supremacist group Identity Evropa. “Twenty-eighteen is going to be the year of leftists joining the white-nationalist movement!” Echoing this sentiment were Mosley's co-panelists, including white supremacist blogger Mike Enoch, whose real surname is Peinovich. "We have to push a right-wing workers’ movement,” he opined, while blasting the culture of capitalism, where “everything” runs the risk of getting “corporatized and capitalized” and “everything is empty and fake.”

“One of the great struggles that everyone has in this corporate neoliberal world is for meaning in their life,” he continued. “Our struggle provides that for us. Everything else is empty … but our movement.”

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Mister D
12-17-2017, 02:48 PM
Minkowitz is confused. Spencer appeals to an anti-capitalist tradition that predates Marxism. That tradition has been part and parcel of conservative thought for the last 200 hundred years.

Chris
12-17-2017, 03:46 PM
Minkowitz is confused. Spencer appeals to an anti-capitalist tradition that predates Marxism. That tradition has been part and parcel of conservative thought for the last 200 hundred years.

That is true. It was a tradition that Marx joined in on, though he gave it a twist in as much as he believed capitalism had to succeed to fail and usher in socialism (hegelian thesis, anti-thesis, synthesis). This was eventually rejected because industrialization/capitalism hadn't made its way to Russian and China to revolt against. That is when socialism turned authoritarian.

Chris
12-19-2017, 09:53 PM
Of Course the Alt-Right Is Against Capitalism (https://fee.org/articles/of-course-the-alt-right-is-against-capitalism/)


...The revolving door between the left and the right has been going around for two centuries. People like John Ruskin or Thomas Carlyle might have been non-Marxists and conservatives in every respect, but they targeted the market as the most feared enemy of their agenda for social and economic control. The Progressives too, split between their right and left branches, each anxious to use the state to stop the market drive that spreads the benefits of prosperity to all people.

The strange way in which the far left and right are bound up with each other has been noted by consistent liberals for a long time. Their membership is fluid, wrote Max Eastman in 1956, observing that “every judgment and choice, every trait and mode of behavior, that once had given meaning to the word ‘Right’ is now supported and approved by those whom all agree in calling ‘Left’ or ‘Leftist.’”

Equally, there have been periods in history when what used to be called left was suddenly called right, as illustrated in the magically adaptive mind of Werner Sombart, who easily made the journey from Communist to Nazi.

In the much-truncated and cartoonish remake in the presidential election of 2016, many observers noted the odd way in which it was difficult to distinguish the platforms of Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump: anti-trade, pro-"worker", promising universal health coverage, and generally railing against globalism and capitalist financial power. That they hated each other was not a surprise. This fits the narrative of history in which political tribes save their most vituperative attacks for those closest to them in outlook.

...The alt-right’s turn toward overt anti-capitalism is neither surprising nor new nor counterintuitive. It doesn’t just stem from anti-Semitism, even if that is a seemingly inevitable part of it. Collectivism of all sorts and every form stands opposed to economic liberty. Just give it time: all types of collectivism end up sounding more or less like each other.