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elvisroy0000
12-11-2012, 12:15 PM
Clint eastwoods Empty Chair was dead On when someone is doing as Bad a Job as Obamanation you fire them you dont wate 4 more Years so we have less People working 6 dollar a gallon gas foolish move Newt Gingrich should have Been Elected you messed up period and to Continue to let these idiots Blame Capotilism for Carter and Obamas failings of trying to Force Banks to give loans to those who could not afford Them through burdening Regulations which is Socialism is unacceptable and Dangerous
President Newt Gingrich http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBhfeySNYJc&feature=share&list=UUBuIBDSUAc2tn3zLW-VCgaA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBhfeySNYJc&feature=share&list=UUBuIBDSUAc2tn3zLW-VCgaA)

Cigar
12-11-2012, 12:29 PM
Get over it ...

Chris
12-11-2012, 12:32 PM
While the election is over and both sides need to get over it, that's no reason to get over Obama trying to make the US into a socialist democracy.

Cigar
12-11-2012, 12:44 PM
Nice for emotional appeals. :)

Chris
12-11-2012, 12:46 PM
Nice for emotional appeals. :)

Except there's no emotional appeal. Obama has said he wants to push us toward fail European socialist democracy. That's a fact, not a feeling. It's an appeal to reason. Apparently lost on you.

Cigar
12-11-2012, 01:54 PM
Except there's no emotional appeal. Obama has said he wants to push us toward fail European socialist democracy. That's a fact, not a feeling. It's an appeal to reason. Apparently lost on you.

Link please :)

Chris
12-11-2012, 02:34 PM
Link please :)

It's implied in everything he says and cheered in your every gloat.

Cigar
12-11-2012, 02:38 PM
It's implied in everything he says and cheered in your every gloat.



Got it ... no facts.

Chris
12-11-2012, 02:49 PM
Got it ... no facts.

So you never heard him say " I think the trick is figuring out how do we structure government systems that pool resources and hence facilitate some redistribution because I actually believe in redistribution, at least at a certain level to make sure everybody’s got a shot"?

That's social democracy.

Cigar
12-11-2012, 02:53 PM
So you never heard him say " I think the trick is figuring out how do we structure government systems that pool resources and hence facilitate some redistribution because I actually believe in redistribution, at least at a certain level to make sure everybody’s got a shot"?

That's social democracy.

Or as you guys say ... Build it yourself.

BTW ...

the Next War ... you Fight it yourself.
the next local disaster ... clean it up yourself

Chris
12-11-2012, 03:10 PM
Or as you guys say ... Build it yourself.

BTW ...

the Next War ... you Fight it yourself.
the next local disaster ... clean it up yourself

See now you cheer on his social democracy, or as I called it, socialist democracy.

elvisroy0000
12-11-2012, 04:28 PM
The govt does Not build anything everything Created has been By the Grace Of God and By American Entrepenuers and farmers and cowboys despite Recent govt intervention Obamas socialist ass Nevar Created antything and what Poverty did Berry evar suffer you socialists are Morons From the word Go

bladimz
12-12-2012, 01:44 PM
So how do you choose which programs are satisfactory and which aren't? Who doesn't back the Federal Emergency Management Agency? Who doesn't accept Medicare as a reasonably good program. The EPA, the Bureau of Consumer Protection, NASA and the CDC are all much needed social agencies. They serve the greater good. They've been in place for decades and by now are an integral part of our country. Yank these agencies out of the equation and see how soon the public reacts.

The fact is that our country works better for everyone when certain social programs are in place.

Chris
12-12-2012, 02:07 PM
So how do you choose which programs are satisfactory and which aren't? Who doesn't back the Federal Emergency Management Agency? Who doesn't accept Medicare as a reasonably good program. The EPA, the Bureau of Consumer Protection, NASA and the CDC are all much needed social agencies. They serve the greater good. They've been in place for decades and by now are an integral part of our country. Yank these agencies out of the equation and see how soon the public reacts.

The fact is that our country works better for everyone when certain social programs are in place.

That's a good question, blad, how do you decide? The free market has a built in means by which knowledge is shared, the pricing mechanism. It works pretty good. How does government decide these things when the knowledge to decide is dispersed and dynamic?

GrumpyDog
12-13-2012, 12:58 AM
If stranded on an isolated island, survivors from a plane crash, should immediately determine which among them are of the conservative mind, relative to distribution of resources.

For otherwise, if the conservatives find the one banana tree, or the one source of fresh water, or the one cave, he will try to prevent the others from discovering such, and might even resort to violence or try to build a fort, rather than figure out a rational way to share the resources in an equitable way.

Peter1469
12-13-2012, 09:14 AM
If stranded on an isolated island, survivors from a plane crash, should immediately determine which among them are of the conservative mind, relative to distribution of resources.

For otherwise, if the conservatives find the one banana tree, or the one source of fresh water, or the one cave, he will try to prevent the others from discovering such, and might even resort to violence or try to build a fort, rather than figure out a rational way to share the resources in an equitable way.


That is a silly analogy. You don't really understand the concept of free markets and society in general do you?

GrassrootsConservative
12-13-2012, 11:59 AM
If stranded on an isolated island, survivors from a plane crash, should immediately determine which among them are of the conservative mind, relative to distribution of resources.

For otherwise, if the conservatives find the one banana tree, or the one source of fresh water, or the one cave, he will try to prevent the others from discovering such, and might even resort to violence or try to build a fort, rather than figure out a rational way to share the resources in an equitable way.

If he works hard to find that banana tree and everyone else are lazy moochers who sit on their fat asses in the shade of trees that help nobody and benefit from the whole group anyway, and then they think that they are entitled to that tree even though they did nothing to earn it, then your analogy would be correct.

bladimz
12-13-2012, 04:52 PM
If stranded on an isolated island, survivors from a plane crash, should immediately determine which among them are of the conservative mind, relative to distribution of resources.

For otherwise, if the conservatives find the one banana tree, or the one source of fresh water, or the one cave, he will try to prevent the others from discovering such, and might even resort to violence or try to build a fort, rather than figure out a rational way to share the resources in an equitable way.Did you ever hear the fable called "Henny Penny"? It's about a barnyard hen who finds and plants some wheat, harvests it and goes through the whole process of making bread by herself. All the while, she asks other animals in the barnyard if they would help. None would; they just sat around doing nothing, and waiting for the farmer to bring them their food. When it was time to eat the fresh, warm bread, all the animals rushed to her and asked for some. She turned them away, replying that since no one would help her make it, no one would help her eat it.

This is a favorite of the conservatives, because it conveniently ignores the other animals in the yard who had also tried to make bread. Some had bad seed, some suffered insect damage, some saw their wheat washed out by flood waters. Even others battled one another over land to plant on. These scenarios are the shades of gray that conservatives are too hard-headed to consider.

Chris
12-13-2012, 04:59 PM
Did you ever hear the fable called "Henny Penny"? It's about a barnyard hen who finds and plants some wheat, harvests it and goes through the whole process of making bread by herself. All the while, she asks other animals in the barnyard if they would help. None would; they just sat around doing nothing, and waiting for the farmer to bring them their food. When it was time to eat the fresh, warm bread, all the animals rushed to her and asked for some. She turned them away, replying that since no one would help her make it, no one would help her eat it.

This is a favorite of the conservatives, because it conveniently ignores the other animals in the yard who had also tried to make bread. Some had bad seed, some suffered insect damage, some saw their wheat washed out by flood waters. Even others battled one another over land to plant on. These scenarios are the shades of gray that conservatives are too hard-headed to consider.

It's a favorite because while a fairy tale it tells the harsh but natural realities of life which conservatives recognize and try to deal with in the best possible way while liberals try their best to ignore it for fairly tales that end happily ever after.

I think it was Sowell, maybe Hayek, who called these the tragic or constrained view and the utopian or unconstrained view--why not just call it the comic view.

GrassrootsConservative
12-13-2012, 05:00 PM
Did you ever hear the fable called "Henny Penny"? It's about a barnyard hen who finds and plants some wheat, harvests it and goes through the whole process of making bread by herself. All the while, she asks other animals in the barnyard if they would help. None would; they just sat around doing nothing, and waiting for the farmer to bring them their food. When it was time to eat the fresh, warm bread, all the animals rushed to her and asked for some. She turned them away, replying that since no one would help her make it, no one would help her eat it.

This is a favorite of the conservatives, because it conveniently ignores the other animals in the yard who had also tried to make bread. Some had bad seed, some suffered insect damage, some saw their wheat washed out by flood waters. Even others battled one another over land to plant on. These scenarios are the shades of gray that conservatives are too hard-headed to consider.


None would; they just sat around doing nothing, and waiting for the farmer to bring them their food.


This is a favorite of the conservatives, because it conveniently ignores the other animals in the yard who had also tried to make bread.

You're just being incompetent now, if they're sitting around doing nothing, waiting for the farmer to bring them their food, then they're not "also trying to make bread."

Liberals think doing nothing is trying to make bread. That is surely the height of Liberal stupidity. You should be ashamed.

elvisroy0000
12-13-2012, 07:18 PM
o i see you think no one Builds anything but the Govt next time you get fired see if Obama has Built a job for you

elvisroy0000
12-15-2012, 11:29 AM
and if you wish to read the Full Article i wrote http://elvisroy0000city.blogspot.com/

Captain Obvious
12-15-2012, 07:56 PM
elvisroy0000 - you do realize that we have a rule about posting links to personal blogs and other websites, no?

It's generally not a problem as long as you don't get carried away pimping it and continue to be an active participant here.

bladimz
12-16-2012, 01:16 PM
You're just being incompetent now, if they're sitting around doing nothing, waiting for the farmer to bring them their food, then they're not "also trying to make bread."

Liberals think doing nothing is trying to make bread. That is surely the height of Liberal stupidity. You should be ashamed.Roots, you're a hoot! :laugh:
What's your deal? Comprehensive issues?

GrassrootsConservative
12-16-2012, 01:34 PM
Roots, you're a hoot! :laugh:
What's your deal? Comprehensive issues?

Read what you said. You tell me.

bladimz
12-17-2012, 02:52 PM
Did you ever hear the fable called "Henny Penny"? It's about a barnyard hen who finds and plants some wheat, harvests it and goes through the whole process of making bread by herself. All the while, she asks other animals in the barnyard if they would help. None would; they just sat around doing nothing, and waiting for the farmer to bring them their food. When it was time to eat the fresh, warm bread, all the animals rushed to her and asked for some. She turned them away, replying that since no one would help her make it, no one would help her eat it.

This is a favorite of the conservatives, because it conveniently ignores the other animals in the yard who had also tried to make bread. Some had bad seed, some suffered insect damage, some saw their wheat washed out by flood waters. Even others battled one another over land to plant on. These scenarios are the shades of gray that conservatives are too hard-headed to consider.Ok... i reposted it with the key comment in bold type. I hope this helps.

GrassrootsConservative
12-17-2012, 03:27 PM
Ok... i reposted it with the key comment in bold type. I hope this helps.

Do you know what a contradiction is, moron? You said they were doing nothing, waiting for the farmer to bring them their food. Then later you tried to say they did something. That doesn't make any sense. This is your problem.

bladimz
12-17-2012, 03:42 PM
Do you know what a contradiction is, moron? You said they were doing nothing, waiting for the farmer to bring them their food. Then later you tried to say they did something. That doesn't make any sense. This is your problem.
I was afraid that you would misunderstand; the fable as i posted it and the one that conservatives love to tell is a story that ignores the realistic efforts made by others in the barnyard. The conservative version (my first paragraph) says that only Henny Penny is the one working to make bread and all the other animals laid around doing nothing. It's a great story for cons because it's message is that either you are successfully making bread, or you are just plain lazy.

That's a disingenuous message.

GrassrootsConservative
12-17-2012, 03:44 PM
I was afraid that you would misunderstand; the fable as i posted it and the one that conservatives love to tell is a story that ignores the realistic efforts made by others in the barnyard. The conservative version (my first paragraph) says that only Henny Penny is the one working to make bread and all the other animals laid around doing nothing. It's a great story for cons because it's message is that either you are successfully making bread, or you are just plain lazy.

That's a disingenuous message.

To you it probably would be.

GrassrootsConservative
12-17-2012, 04:03 PM
I was afraid that you would misunderstand; the fable as i posted it and the one that conservatives love to tell is a story that ignores the realistic efforts made by others in the barnyard. The conservative version (my first paragraph) says that only Henny Penny is the one working to make bread and all the other animals laid around doing nothing. It's a great story for cons because it's message is that either you are successfully making bread, or you are just plain lazy.

That's a disingenuous message.

What if the other barn animals all did stupid things that don't work like sitting on their asses and building up debt while they educate themselves in the bread liberal arts? Proven things that have been shown to not be successful and that's all they ever want to do with no real work effort?

KC
12-17-2012, 04:11 PM
There are many chickens who work hard and are willing to help their less successful barnyard brethren even without the farmer taking their bread and giving it to the others.

Cigar
12-18-2012, 12:30 PM
http://oneyearbibleimages.com/tantrum.jpg

Pete7469
01-11-2013, 10:35 AM
I thought Herman Cain was the best candidate, and the bed wetters knew it. That's why they paraded aseemingly endless supply of obscure whores to claim escalating levels of improper conduct. If the last one we saw wouldn't have caused his poll numbers to drop, the next one would have alleged rape, the one after that would have claimed he drove her off a bridge in Taxachuessettes and left her for dead.

The left protects their deviants, perverts, thieves, liars and murderers. We have morals though, and hold our representatives to a standard. Not a very high one mind you, but compared to the left's malignancies, our people are angelic.

Cigar
01-11-2013, 10:40 AM
I thought Herman Cain was the best candidate, and the bed wetters knew it. That's why they paraded aseemingly endless supply of obscure whores to claim escalating levels of improper conduct. If the last one we saw wouldn't have caused his poll numbers to drop, the next one would have alleged rape, the one after that would have claimed he drove her off a bridge in Taxachuessettes and left her for dead.

The left protects their deviants, perverts, thieves, liars and murderers. We have morals though, and hold our representatives to a standard. Not a very high one mind you, but compared to the left's malignancies, our people are angelic.



Dude I'm with you ... I would have loved to have seen Cain and Obama run against each other in an All Chocolate Race :)


http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/W/K/4/cain-grope-poster.jpg
http://forthesomedaybook.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/obama-hope.jpg

Peter1469
01-11-2013, 10:56 AM
Dude I'm with you ... I would have loved to have seen Cain and Obama run against each other in an All Chocolate Race :)


http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/W/K/4/cain-grope-poster.jpg
http://forthesomedaybook.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/obama-hope.jpg

That would have been epic. A business man v. a community agitator.

Cigar
01-11-2013, 10:57 AM
That would have been epic. A business man v. a community agitator.



Didn't Obama already beat a Business Man ?

Peter1469
01-11-2013, 11:01 AM
Didn't Obama already beat a Business Man ?

Not a black one!

Pete7469
01-11-2013, 11:05 AM
Not a self made one either, let alone a man who would've pulled no punches. He would have waxed the floor with the moonbat messiah, and rubbed the bed wetting "journalists" noses in it.

Alif Qadr
01-11-2013, 11:33 AM
I thought Herman Cain was the best candidate, and the bed wetters knew it. That's why they paraded aseemingly endless supply of obscure whores to claim escalating levels of improper conduct. If the last one we saw wouldn't have caused his poll numbers to drop, the next one would have alleged rape, the one after that would have claimed he drove her off a bridge in Taxachuessettes and left her for dead.

The left protects their deviants, perverts, thieves, liars and murderers. We have morals though, and hold our representatives to a standard. Not a very high one mind you, but compared to the left's malignancies, our people are angelic.


What can I say but, LOL?

Cigar
01-11-2013, 11:40 AM
Not a self made one either, let alone a man who would've pulled no punches. He would have waxed the floor with the moonbat messiah, and rubbed the bed wetting "journalists" noses in it.

Call for a third partyAfter Barack Obama's reelection in 2012, Herman Cain told Bryan Fischer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryan_Fischer) that the Republican Party no longer represented the interests of conservatives in the United States and that it didn't have "the ability to re-brand itself", so a third party, "not Ron Paul (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Paul) and the Ron Paulites" but "a legitimate third party", would be needed to replace it. [/URL]

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Cain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Cain#cite_note-thirdparty-32)

Alif Qadr
01-11-2013, 11:45 AM
While the election is over and both sides need to get over it, that's no reason to get over Obama trying to make the US into a socialist democracy.

Definitions

soˇcial [ sṓshəl ]

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relating to society: relating to human society and how it is organized
relating to interaction of people: relating to the way in which people in groups behave and interact
living in a community: living or preferring to live as part of a community or colony rather than alone

1-ist noun suffix




Definition of -IST1
a : one that performs a (specified) action <cyclist> : one that makes or produces a (specified) thing <novelist>
b : one that plays a (specified) musical instrument <harpist>
c : one that operates a (specified) mechanical instrument or contrivance <automobilist>

2
: one that specializes in a (specified) art or science or skill<geologist> <ventriloquist>

3
: one that adheres to or advocates a (specified) doctrine or system or code of behavior <socialist> <royalist> <hedonist>or that of a (specified) individual <Calvinist> <Darwinist>


ism
Definition
ism
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isms

Plural




NOUN

1.
system of belief: a movement, doctrine, or system of belief ( informal )

The reason for me posting the definition of "social", "ist" and "ism" to for clarification purposes.

To be a Socialist is nothing more than a person or group of people engaging in social or societal activity(ies)

To be engage in said activity(ies) defines said activities as Socialism.

I refuse to allow a group of people that do not represent everyone to lay the definition of two words that are actually a political and have nothing to do with economics. This is the reason why I use the terms, Progressive, Marxist and Communist. These three terms are decisive and to the point.

nic34
01-11-2013, 11:54 AM
I refuse to allow a group of people that do not represent everyone to lay the definition of two words that are actually a political and have nothing to do with economics.

Welcome to the "end the filibuster" fight....

Chris
01-11-2013, 12:18 PM
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The reason for me posting the definition of "social", "ist" and "ism" to for clarification purposes.

To be a Socialist is nothing more than a person or group of people engaging in social or societal activity(ies)

To be engage in said activity(ies) defines said activities as Socialism.

I refuse to allow a group of people that do not represent everyone to lay the definition of two words that are actually a political and have nothing to do with economics. This is the reason why I use the terms, Progressive, Marxist and Communist. These three terms are decisive and to the point.



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And long as you do you won't make much sense. But I have to say that was an amazing deconstruction of words leaving them utterly meaningless. It would be just as easy to take your three favorites and deconstruct them into meaninglessness too. But what would be the point? Think I'll stick to the political and economic meaning of the words.

Pete7469
01-11-2013, 12:32 PM
And long as you do you won't make much sense. But I have to say that was an amazing deconstruction of words leaving them utterly meaningless. It would be just as easy to take your three favorites and deconstruct them into meaninglessness too. But what would be the point? Think I'll stick to the political and economic meaning of the words.

I don't call bed wetters "progressive" because there's no progress there. Just the same tired old marxist agenda that leads to war, poverty, famine and genocide. Of course some liberals want a massive population decrease, so mass murdering despots appeal to them.

Carygrant
01-11-2013, 12:35 PM
The Topic itself is tremendous -- enough to lighten any bad day . Obviously Mutt the Misfit and his clueless band of advisors lost the GOP any slim chance they might have had . He was probably the only person in the countries that make up the developed world NOT to overthrow the incumbent leader by just blaming the state of the economy on them .
He was the most boring and bland public character who had probably been told by Wall Street that he was home and hosed if he just didn't ruffle any feathers .
Instead he pranced round Europe and Israel making a fool of himself and employed an 82 doddering ex film star to sing his praises , BUT only indirectly .
A total performance of stunning ineptitude . But not spotted by the Reps until he had set the party back 20 years .

Cigar
01-11-2013, 12:35 PM
When you're reduced to childish name calling to articulate your anger and frustration ... your opponent has already won.

Remember, when you see them laughing in your direction ... chances are, you're the Joke.

Chris
01-11-2013, 12:39 PM
Progressive has an interesting history. It started out as an American version of socialism. It had become so despoiled by Progressives as a title that FDR decide to latch onto the up till then unused in politics Liberal label. But now that that label has been sullied by Liberals they're taking the name Progressive back up hoping no one will remember.

Words don't have meaning because dictionaries define them but from the history of how people use them. Same as social democracy, another tale to tell.

Chris
01-11-2013, 12:40 PM
When you're reduced to childish name calling to articulate your anger and frustration ... your opponent has already won.

Remember, when you see them laughing in your direction ... chances are, you're the Joke.

You mean like "Mutt the Misfit"?

Pete7469
01-11-2013, 01:26 PM
You mean like "Mutt the Misfit"?

You forget, bed wetters don't have to maintain standards. They have no character, morality, ethics or integrity, but are right there to put a spotlight on their enemies should we make a mistake.

When people don't respond to your posts it's probably because they consider you too stupid and beneath a response. If they're ignoring you, they don't care if you're laughing, because they're aware that your ignorance is bliss.

Rockefeller Republican
01-15-2013, 08:19 PM
I voted Romney and he was the best of the group besides Paul.

Peter1469
01-15-2013, 08:25 PM
I voted Romney and he was the best of the group besides Paul.

Romney is a lib. Not much better than Obama.

Carygrant
01-15-2013, 09:56 PM
You mean like "Mutt the Misfit"?


Names catch on when they aptly snap the character and nature of the person . And the guy certainly was a Mutt and a total GOP Misfit . Just as Mister Eastwood made himself look a bit of a , Clunt .
Similar in essence to , Chrismess , and Chris the Master Troll , names which I am sure you appreciate when you smile once or twice a year .
So don't worry Chris . It's the names you could be called that should worry you . Not these cartoon name labels for our resident cartoon graph expert .

Chris
01-15-2013, 10:26 PM
Names catch on when they aptly snap the character and nature of the person . And the guy certainly was a Mutt and a total GOP Misfit . Just as Mister Eastwood made himself look a bit of a , Clunt .
Similar in essence to , Chrismess , and Chris the Master Troll , names which I am sure you appreciate when you smile once or twice a year .
So don't worry Chris . It's the names you could be called that should worry you . Not these cartoon name labels for our resident cartoon graph expert .

The question was about your hypocritical name calling when you criticize name calling. And there you go again. http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/567/1sm074hole.gif

Carygrant
01-16-2013, 05:47 AM
The question was about your hypocritical name calling when you criticize name calling. And there you go again. http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/567/1sm074hole.gif

Name tags old chap .
Considerable difference between useful name tags and spiteful name calling and helpful advice to the less fortunate .
You bring joy to our hearts every time I remind others that Chrismess comes early this year .

Chris
01-16-2013, 09:50 AM
Name tags old chap .
Considerable difference between useful name tags and spiteful name calling and helpful advice to the less fortunate .
You bring joy to our hearts every time I remind others that Chrismess comes early this year .

Not sure what you're trying to rationalize, it's simple, you criticize name calling by name calling, that's hypocritical. You just keep digging your own Hole. http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/567/1sm074hole.gif

Carygrant
01-16-2013, 12:36 PM
Not sure what you're trying to rationalize, it's simple, you criticize name calling by name calling, that's hypocritical. You just keep digging your own Hole. http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/567/1sm074hole.gif


Are you pretending that I am going to stick you head -first down it ? My God , it will need to be a big one . rofl

Chris
01-16-2013, 01:01 PM
Are you pretending that I am going to stick you head -first down it ? My God , it will need to be a big one . rofl

http://i.snag.gy/0V1he.jpg

Pete7469
01-17-2013, 03:42 PM
Romney was a shitty candidate, another moderate shmuck who tried to make everyone like him. He never managed to get a significantly higher level of support than all the other primary challengers, whom the media destroyed one by one. They didn't attack Romney until he was the last man standing.

Republicans only have themselves to blame though, we allow the media to choose for us by believeing their "polling data", and not backing our people when they're under attack. Now if they truly do or say something reprehensible then fine.

Since the bed wetters have no problem re-electing crackheads, rapists, disbarred judges, and idiots who think an island can be capsized, we should have standards, but we shouldn't allow lies, out of context statements, false accusations, or even accusations with no evidence behind it to bring down candidates the left hates. If the media are attacking them, that's who we should be backing.

If the media is ignoring them, there's a reason for it.

nic34
01-17-2013, 03:50 PM
Sounds like the conservatives need a better strategy.

Hummm, can't charge for voting anymore..... or give a test...... hummmm......

GrassrootsConservative
01-17-2013, 03:56 PM
Romney was a shitty candidate, another moderate shmuck who tried to make everyone like him. He never managed to get a significantly higher level of support than all the other primary challengers, whom the media destroyed one by one. They didn't attack Romney until he was the last man standing.

Republicans only have themselves to blame though, we allow the media to choose for us by believeing their "polling data", and not backing our people when they're under attack. Now if they truly do or say something reprehensible then fine.

Since the bed wetters have no problem re-electing crackheads, rapists, disbarred judges, and idiots who think an island can be capsized, we should have standards, but we shouldn't allow lies, out of context statements, false accusations, or even accusations with no evidence behind it to bring down candidates the left hates. If the media are attacking them, that's who we should be backing.

If the media is ignoring them, there's a reason for it.

I agree that as far as policy goes (which is almost everything that should be looked at), you're right, he was another shitty "on the fence" candidate chosen by behind-the-curtain schmucks; just like John McCain was.

As a person though, Mitt Romney might be the best Republican candidate ever, Bill Whittle did a speech about it and I agree with it 100%.

GrassrootsConservative
01-17-2013, 03:58 PM
Sounds like the conservatives need a better strategy.

Hummm, can't charge for voting anymore..... or give a test...... hummmm......

How about we nominate the same inept dumbasses that you do? hummmm?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNZczIgVXjg

nic34
01-17-2013, 04:00 PM
Musta missed him in the primaries....

GrassrootsConservative
01-17-2013, 04:03 PM
Musta missed him in the primaries....

"Musta" missed getting your education too, I hope you don't really talk like that.

roadmaster
01-17-2013, 04:05 PM
No, Mitt was the last one I wanted. Too republican for me. I wanted a con and we are getting tired of them putting up people like this. Give us a true con that thinks before going to war, looks out for only Americans when it comes to jobs and believes in the Constitution.

GrassrootsConservative
01-17-2013, 04:07 PM
No, Mitt was the last one I wanted. Too republican for me. I wanted a con and we are getting tired of them putting up people like this. Give us a true con that thinks before going to war, looks out for only Americans when it comes to jobs and believes in the Constitution.

I wanted Ron Paul.

Who did you really want?

roadmaster
01-17-2013, 04:11 PM
Either Ron or Herman Cain. Both would have been better than Mitt.

nic34
01-17-2013, 04:38 PM
"Musta" missed getting your education too, I hope you don't really talk like that.

Sure glad I missed the profane-mouth education you got.

Pete7469
01-17-2013, 11:45 PM
I agree that as far as policy goes (which is almost everything that should be looked at), you're right, he was another shitty "on the fence" candidate chosen by behind-the-curtain schmucks; just like John McCain was.

As a person though, Mitt Romney might be the best Republican candidate ever, Bill Whittle did a speech about it and I agree with it 100%.

I like Bill Whittle, he should run himself. He's one of the few who can articulate our agenda and doesn't care if bed wetters get butthurt. Romney was completely incompetent on advancing our agenda, and his past was the negative that cost him. His gun control signature and Oromneycare sealed his fate, and the left knew it before before the republicrats did.

Carygrant
01-18-2013, 04:46 AM
I wanted Ron Paul.

Who did you really want?


You .
That would guarantee the rest of the world uniting together and a huge increase in Charity donations .


P.S. " Whom do ..... " is so much nicer and correct than , " Who did .... " . Sent with a friendly smile .

nic34
01-18-2013, 09:13 AM
Ron Paul wants a government that does not exist, never has existed and never will.

Chris
01-18-2013, 09:53 AM
Ron Paul wants a government that does not exist, never has existed and never will.

"The moral and constitutional obligations of our representatives in Washington are to protect our liberty, not coddle the world, precipitating no-win wars, while bringing bankruptcy and economic turmoil to our people."
~Ron Paul

"There is nothing wrong with describing Conservatism as protecting the Constitution, protecting all things that limit government. Government is the enemy of liberty. Government should be very restrained."
~Ron Paul

"I am just absolutely convinced that the best formula for giving us peace and preserving the American way of life is freedom, limited government, and minding our own business overseas."
~Ron Paul

nic34
01-18-2013, 11:17 AM
“You don’t have a right to a house, you don’t have a right to a job, you don’t have a right to medical care.”

"Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty and the end of welfare and affirmative action."

While campaigning in Iowa, Paul harshly told a breast-cancer survivor at one of his stops that insurance companies should not have to sell coverage to people with pre-existing illnesses.

“It’s sort of like me living on the Gulf Coast, not buying insurance until I see the hurricane,” he said. “Insurance is supposed to measure risk.”

Paul’s comment left the woman—a registered Democrat looking to support a worthy Republican this time around—in tears.

“I watched three friends die because they didn’t have insurance,” she said.

Chris
01-18-2013, 11:27 AM
“You don’t have a right to a house, you don’t have a right to a job, you don’t have a right to medical care.”

"Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty and the end of welfare and affirmative action."

While campaigning in Iowa, Paul harshly told a breast-cancer survivor at one of his stops that insurance companies should not have to sell coverage to people with pre-existing illnesses.

“It’s sort of like me living on the Gulf Coast, not buying insurance until I see the hurricane,” he said. “Insurance is supposed to measure risk.”

Paul’s comment left the woman—a registered Democrat looking to support a worthy Republican this time around—in tears.

“I watched three friends die because they didn’t have insurance,” she said.





Disagreement with Paul's political opinions does not support your claim that "Ron Paul wants a government that does not exist, never has existed and never will." Stick to topic will ya.

Pete7469
01-18-2013, 01:18 PM
The reasons RP was never a viable candidate and was mostly ignored (because if he had a chance a the media would have Herman Cained him) is because he is an abrasive character and allowed tin foil hat wearing loud mouthed malcontents to be the face of his supporters. Few people want to be associated with such zealots. He also would have been the guy who crushed the infrastucture of corruption in DC, and there is no way the established powers that be would have allowed it to happen.

We need a strong conservative this time around, but one guy alone isn't enough. We need to contine to purge the republican party of RINOs as we had in 2010. For all the BS about the "landslide defeat" of the Tea Party in 2012, it was a hollow victory. Few Tea Party incumbents were unseated although Alan West is one of my favorites who had, but the bed wetters pulled all the stops to go after him. I hope we stay organized and repeat 2010 in 2014.

Hopefully we won't repeat 2012 by allowing the Goebbels media machine to pick a moderate RINO again.

Mainecoons
01-18-2013, 01:27 PM
“You don’t have a right to a house, you don’t have a right to a job, you don’t have a right to medical care.”

Absolutely correct.

Given how blacks vote for Obama, I'd say the 5 percent figure is optimistic. And equally so in the case of your ilk. :grin:

Do you expect auto insurance companies to sell you insurance after you've totaled your car and ended up in the hospital? Yes, you probably do, given your welfare mentality.

I'm also still waiting for you to provide anything of substance regarding your claim about Paul's idea of government. Unfortunately for you, I was growing up in the 50's and early 60's when government of all sorts and levels did quite nicely on about 20 percent of GDP and actually did most of what we paid them to do.

nic34
01-18-2013, 02:30 PM
I was growing up in the 50's and early 60's when government of all sorts and levels did quite nicely on about 20 percent of GDP and actually did most of what we paid them to do.


When the marginal tax rates were 70-90%!

Thanks for playing!

Chris
01-18-2013, 02:35 PM
The reasons RP was never a viable candidate and was mostly ignored (because if he had a chance a the media would have Herman Cained him) is because he is an abrasive character and allowed tin foil hat wearing loud mouthed malcontents to be the face of his supporters. Few people want to be associated with such zealots. He also would have been the guy who crushed the infrastucture of corruption in DC, and there is no way the established powers that be would have allowed it to happen.

We need a strong conservative this time around, but one guy alone isn't enough. We need to contine to purge the republican party of RINOs as we had in 2010. For all the BS about the "landslide defeat" of the Tea Party in 2012, it was a hollow victory. Few Tea Party incumbents were unseated although Alan West is one of my favorites who had, but the bed wetters pulled all the stops to go after him. I hope we stay organized and repeat 2010 in 2014.

Hopefully we won't repeat 2012 by allowing the Goebbels media machine to pick a moderate RINO again.

If the Reps would put up a fiscal conservative, I'd vote for him, or her.

nic34
01-18-2013, 02:43 PM
We need to contine to purge the republican party of RINOs as we had in 2010.

I hope you all do too!:danceshout:

Mainecoons
01-18-2013, 04:13 PM
When the marginal tax rates were 70-90%!

Thanks for playing!

You never give up with your misrepresentations, do you genius? You've been shown here several times now that the actual effective tax rates paid under those marginal rates are nearly identical to what has been paid BEFORE the latest round of increases.

But you just keep repeating the same old BS. Now I realize that repeating the same mistakes over and over again and not learning anything is a prime liberal characteristic but you can't seem to understand that here, among people who are a lot smarter and better educated than you and your fellow fools Cigar and Cary, just doesn't fly.

Thanks for continuing to make a fool of yourself here. It is cheap entertainment for the rest of us.

http://blackburn.house.gov/uploadedfiles/jec_republican_staff_analysis_historical_tax_rates _rhetoric_vs_reality.pdf.pdf

See the graph on page 3 and let us know if you need someone with a brain to explain it to you.

roadmaster
01-18-2013, 05:18 PM
“You don’t have a right to a house, you don’t have a right to a job, you don’t have a right to medical care.”

"Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty and the end of welfare and affirmative action."

While campaigning in Iowa, Paul harshly told a breast-cancer survivor at one of his stops that insurance companies should not have to sell coverage to people with pre-existing illnesses.

“It’s sort of like me living on the Gulf Coast, not buying insurance until I see the hurricane,” he said. “Insurance is supposed to measure risk.”

Paul’s comment left the woman—a registered Democrat looking to support a worthy Republican this time around—in tears.

“I watched three friends die because they didn’t have insurance,” she said.







So he is saying if a person lost their job or laid off and went with another company that person shouldn't be able to get insurance because of pre-existing conditions? That sounds more republican than conservative.