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Peter1469
02-09-2018, 07:02 PM
Scientists warn of unusually cold Sun: Will we face another ice age? (http://www.ibtimes.co.in/scientists-warn-unusually-cold-sun-will-we-face-another-ice-age-759865)

This happened before during the US revolution against the UK. A mini-ice age.


A study by the University of California San Diego has claimed that by 2050, the Sun is expected to become cool. You might think "what's the big deal," but remember that this means the solar activities that create the heat of the Sun to sustain life on Earth may diminish. And the last time it happened was in the 17th Century, when the Thames River froze. Scientists call this the "Maunder Minimum".

Physicist Dan Lubin at the university and his team studied the past event and concluded that were are in for a worse case. The Sun is expected to get much dimmer than last time and, in scientific terms, it is a "grand minimum" -- a time period in the 11-year solar cycle when the solar activities are at the lowest point.

According to the study, titled Ultraviolet Flux Decrease Under a Grand Minimum from IUE Short-wavelength Observation of Solar Analogs and published in the journal Astrophysical Journal Letters, this grand minimum will be 7 percent cooler than such periods from the past.


Scientists also said that the Sun might have another cooling period in a decade.


However, predicting a solar minimum or maximum is a challenge to scientists because of the non-linear characteristic of solar activities that happens every day. During a minimum cycle, though solar cycles still occur, the intensity is very low, while during a maximum cycle, solar flares go up and sun spews out billion-ton clouds of electrified gas into space. These two extremes can bring about some major global and regional climate changes.

texan
02-09-2018, 07:17 PM
LOL. Stop posting real news. Everyone knows the religion of settled science is where it’s at.

Hey GWers Galveston Island still hasn’t sunk or shrank. The big news of the science community in the early 1970’s. Fished on the same beach a couple years back.

Peter1469
02-09-2018, 07:19 PM
LOL. Stop posting real news. Everyone knows the religion of settled science is where it’s at.

Hey GWers Galveston Island still hasn’t sunk or shrank. The big news of the science community in the early 1970’s. Fished on the same beach a couple years back.
Yea, a physicist who uses the scientific method, rather than computer models came up with this crap. :shocked:

Peter1469
02-09-2018, 07:20 PM
LOL. Stop posting real news. Everyone knows the religion of settled science is where it’s at.

Hey GWers Galveston Island still hasn’t sunk or shrank. The big news of the science community in the early 1970’s. Fished on the same beach a couple years back.
Yea, a physicist who uses the scientific method, rather than computer models came up with this crap. :shocked:

texan
02-09-2018, 07:28 PM
This planet warms and cools over time and always has. These guru’s have taken a moment in time and made it what they want. Some people are making a fortune off this topic. BTW I am for doing things for the planet that makes sense. Unlike the moronic plan Obama tried to put in place through stupid executive orders.

One of his his motivations for undermining or removing Trump is he knows his things will be undone. Guys a snake. Anyone that allows the IRS to be an attacked dog against political opponents is a snake. Following it up with what we are seeing now. Kind of makes sense. Very Chicago like.

Kacper
02-09-2018, 07:36 PM
At least now we have more plastic for indoor growhouses and stuff compared to last time.

MisterVeritis
02-09-2018, 07:41 PM
I do not care. I plan to die at age 94. That will be just before the Sun's new coolness has its impact.

Common Sense
02-09-2018, 07:43 PM
So some believe this prediction but not the vast consensus by the very same scientists about AGW?

"Researchers at the Northumbria University have claimed that a mini ice age will start by 2021 (http://www.ibtimes.co.in/scientists-warn-mini-ice-age-that-could-hit-earth-freeze-major-rivers-by-2030-754819) and is expected to reduce the effect of global warming, but not stop it."

It all sounds like a scam started by Chi-na.

Peter1469
02-09-2018, 07:44 PM
So some believe this prediction but not the vast consensus by the very same scientists about AGW?

"Researchers at the Northumbria University have claimed that a mini ice age will start by 2021 (http://www.ibtimes.co.in/scientists-warn-mini-ice-age-that-could-hit-earth-freeze-major-rivers-by-2030-754819) and is expected to reduce the effect of global warming, but not stop it."

It all sounds like a scam started by Chi-na.
I posted that link a few months ago.

Common Sense
02-09-2018, 07:49 PM
I posted that link a few months ago.
That was a snippet at the end of the article in the OP.

So do you agree with those scientists that man is causing AGW?

The study from Northumbria is based on mathematical models, much like AGW models.

jimmyz
02-09-2018, 07:52 PM
Northumbria should not be trusted for anything. They have been totally discredited and should convert to being a culinary arts college.

stjames1_53
02-09-2018, 09:10 PM
This has always been the crux of my examination. This ball o' dirt has been around for approx. 4.5 billion years. It has not stopped changing since it's creation. It has undergone several ice ages and several global environmental disasters. But it's not really all there is to it, there are celestial mechanics at work here. Not just the sun, but our galactic orbit as well. Gravity is some damned serious business. Radiation is just as serious. All come into play and must be attended to in studies. @Peter1469 (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=10) this is the one piece of evidence that will never be discussed at the table. Yet it is the most important piece there is.
Our orbit is not a perfect circle within the galaxy and our galaxy is not a perfect orbit around other galaxies. We have to pass within range, close enough to slightly alter our climate. We are less than a grain of sand in the big, very big, picture. To assume this stuff does not affect us is utterly foolish.

Peter1469
02-09-2018, 09:12 PM
I agree.

stjames1_53
02-09-2018, 09:13 PM
Northumbria should not be trusted for anything. They have been totally discredited and should convert to being a culinary arts college.

you'd trust their cooking and teach cooking skills after this? Man, you are so forgiving lol

Captdon
02-10-2018, 12:44 PM
So some believe this prediction but not the vast consensus by the very same scientists about AGW?

"Researchers at the Northumbria University have claimed that a mini ice age will start by 2021 (http://www.ibtimes.co.in/scientists-warn-mini-ice-age-that-could-hit-earth-freeze-major-rivers-by-2030-754819) and is expected to reduce the effect of global warming, but not stop it."

It all sounds like a scam started by Chi-na.

In the late 60's and early 70's A Little Ice Age was determined by a consensus of scientists. They were wrong then and yet they are right now? That's using your brain.

Common Sense
02-10-2018, 02:30 PM
In the late 60's and early 70's A Little Ice Age was determined bu a consensus of scientists. They were wrong then and yet they are right now? That's using your brain.
There was not a consensus back then. It was a theory supported by a few.

Thats a myth. In other words, fake news.

https://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/abs/10.1175/2008BAMS2370.1
https://arstechnica.com/science/2016/06/that-70s-myth-did-climate-science-really-call-for-a-coming-ice-age/

Captdon
02-10-2018, 03:40 PM
There was not a consensus back then. It was a theory supported by a few.

Thats a myth. In other words, fake news.

https://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/abs/10.1175/2008BAMS2370.1
https://arstechnica.com/science/2016/06/that-70s-myth-did-climate-science-really-call-for-a-coming-ice-age/


Bullshit. How old are you? I was an adult then; a thinking person. It was so solid it was the top story for magazines for years. It was a myth by the scientific community. It didn't happen so they latched on to global warming. Fake news then and fake news now. Whatever the climate is going to do it is going to do. Science has to run a scam to keep their publishing quota and keep their jobs.

All the dates for the end of life come and go with the climate scammers. We're still here.