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Common
02-12-2018, 07:18 PM
U.S. gunmaker Remington reaches deal with creditors to file for bankruptcyI didnt even realize remingtons gun division was in trouble.

Remington Outdoor Company Inc, one of the largest U.S. makers of firearms, said on Monday it had reached a deal with its creditors to file for Chapter 11 bankruptcy to slash its $950 million debtload.

The planned bankruptcy filing follows a decline in sales at the armsmaker, in part because of receding fears that guns will become more heavily regulated by the U.S. government, according to credit ratings agencies.
U.S. President Donald Trump has said he will “never, ever infringe on the right of the people to keep and bear arms.” Since Trump’s election victory in November 2016, American Outdoor Brands Corp has lost almost two thirds of its stock market value, while Sturm Ruger & Company Inc has fallen by a quarter. By comparison, the S&P 500 has increased by a quarter in the same period.
Remington said it will receive $145 million in bankruptcy financing to fund the company through the Chapter 11 process. Remington plans to file bankruptcy in U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Delaware, seeking to write off about $700 million in debt.
Cerberus Capital Management LP, the private equity firm that controls Remington, will lose ownership of the company as a result of the bankruptcy. The company’s creditors, which include Franklin Templeton Investments and JPMorgan Asset Management, will exchange their debt holdings for equity in the company.
Business operations including employee wages and benefits and payments to trade creditors will continue as usual through the bankruptcy, the company said.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-remingtonoutdoor-bankruptcy/u-s-gunmaker-remington-reaches-deal-with-creditors-to-file-for-bankruptcy-idUSKBN1FW23Q

Peter1469
02-12-2018, 07:21 PM
Chapter 11 is reorganization of debt. The company will still be around. Hopefully they can pull through.

Common
02-12-2018, 07:41 PM
Chapter 11 is reorganization of debt. The company will still be around. Hopefully they can pull through.
Remington makes tons of different products and has alot of divisions, it seems its only their gun division that is having a problem

I have noticed recently huge discounts on remington handguns, especially their 380s

Kacper
02-12-2018, 07:53 PM
I came up on Remington shotguns. Cannot say I was as happy with them as I was the others we had but you had to pick your gun by order of birth so I usually got stuck with one of them instead of one of the older, better guns from my dad's arsenal. I am not a big fan of pump action guns anyway.

Crepitus
02-12-2018, 08:00 PM
Without a Democrat in office to be frightened of the gunmakers profits are way down this year.

zelmo1234
02-12-2018, 08:51 PM
Remington has lost there way, They moved reluctantly into the synthetics and really don't have a great AR/Self defense offering

There pistols are OK but done better by others. They still make a wonderful product but it is priced a little out of the popular price offerings

I wish them well be they need some better management.

Safety
02-12-2018, 08:57 PM
The Bushmaster used in the Sandy Hook shooting didn't help matters either.

Max Rockatansky
02-12-2018, 08:58 PM
U.S. gunmaker Remington reaches deal with creditors to file for bankruptcy

I didnt even realize remingtons gun division was in trouble.

Remington Outdoor Company Inc, one of the largest U.S. makers of firearms, said on Monday it had reached a deal with its creditors to file for Chapter 11 bankruptcy to slash its $950 million debtload.

The planned bankruptcy filing follows a decline in sales at the armsmaker, in part because of receding fears that guns will become more heavily regulated by the U.S. government, according to credit ratings agencies.
U.S. President Donald Trump has said he will “never, ever infringe on the right of the people to keep and bear arms.” Since Trump’s election victory in November 2016, American Outdoor Brands Corp has lost almost two thirds of its stock market value, while Sturm Ruger & Company Inc has fallen by a quarter. By comparison, the S&P 500 has increased by a quarter in the same period.
Remington said it will receive $145 million in bankruptcy financing to fund the company through the Chapter 11 process. Remington plans to file bankruptcy in U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Delaware, seeking to write off about $700 million in debt.
Cerberus Capital Management LP, the private equity firm that controls Remington, will lose ownership of the company as a result of the bankruptcy. The company’s creditors, which include Franklin Templeton Investments and JPMorgan Asset Management, will exchange their debt holdings for equity in the company.
Business operations including employee wages and benefits and payments to trade creditors will continue as usual through the bankruptcy, the company said.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-remingtonoutdoor-bankruptcy/u-s-gunmaker-remington-reaches-deal-with-creditors-to-file-for-bankruptcy-idUSKBN1FW23Q
Surprised me too when I saw an article about it online.

" Since Trump’s election victory in November 2016, American Outdoor Brands Corp has lost almost two thirds of its stock market value, while Sturm Ruger & Company Inc has fallen by a quarter. By comparison, the S&P 500 has increased by a quarter in the same period. "

It's no coincidence that they are going bankrupt after losing the best gun salesman ever nor that Hillary's loss in the election has led to this. Sad.

Grokmaster
02-12-2018, 09:45 PM
Many of today's shooters do not use bolt guns, Remington's bread and butter, or choose from the many options now available. It's semi-auto hunting rifles (the 700 family)are being outgunned by Browning, etal. Remington needs to UPDATE...

exotix
02-12-2018, 11:12 PM
Today


'Everything Trump touches Dies'




Remington, Gun Maker Tied To Sandy Hook Massacre, Makes Deal With Lenders


http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-ap-remington-bankruptcy-sandy-hook-20180212-story.html


https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=DGWCWs_hHuiIggefy6awAg&q=Remington&oq=Remington&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i131k1j0l9.1935.4299.0.5632.10.9.0.0.0.0.12 7.816.8j1.9.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..1.9.816.0...0.p9qT5HAmYCc (https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=DGWCWs_hHuiIggefy6awAg&q=Remington&oq=Remington&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i131k1j0l9.1935.4299.0.5632.10.9.0.0.0.0.12 7.816.8j1.9.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..1.9.816.0...0.p9qT5HAmYCc)


MADISON, N.C. — Remington, the gun maker beset by falling sales and lawsuits tied to the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre (http://www.courant.com/topic/crime-law-justice/crime/shootings/sandy-hook-elementary-school-shooting-EVCAL00028-topic.html), has reached a financing deal that would allow it to continue operating as it seeks Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection.


The maker of the Bushmaster AR-15-style rifle used in the Connecticut shooting that left 20 first-graders and six educators dead in 2012, said Monday that the agreement with lenders will reduce its debt by about $700 million and add about $145 million in new capital.


The company was cleared of any wrongdoing in the shooting, but investors repulsed by the massacres distanced themselves from the company's owner, investment firm Cerberus Capital Management. Cerberus acquired the gun maker in 2007, just when gun sales began to skyrocket.



Firearm background checks, a reliable barometer of gun sales, had risen steadily for at least a decade.


That changed last year with the election of President Donald Trump (http://www.courant.com/topic/politics-government/donald-trump-PEBSL000163-topic.html), and it has taken a toll on the gun industry.



Gun sales spike on the election of candidates who are perceived to be more likely to pursue more stringent gun control laws, whether or not there is any truth in that perception.



The opposite has occurred since Trump was elected.

He became the first sitting president to address the National Rifle Association (http://www.courant.com/topic/crime-law-justice/national-rifle-association-of-america-ORCIG000080-topic.html) in three decades, telling members at their annual meeting last spring that “You have a true friend and champion in the White House.”




http://res.cloudinary.com/luvckye9s/image/upload/v1518495049/1_zwpvg7.png




In this Jan. 28, 2013, photo, firearms training unit Detective Barbara J. Mattson, of the Connecticut State Police, holds up a Bushmaster AR-15 rifle, the same make and model of gun used by Adam Lanza in the Sandy Hook School shooting, during a legislative hearing in Hartford.


http://res.cloudinary.com/luvckye9s/image/upload/v1518494723/hc-1518456165-mmqymaehpw-snap-image_xooaqs.jpg

Dr. Who
02-13-2018, 12:26 AM
Their sales are down because no one is currently panicking gun buyers. The gun industry experienced a huge surge under the last government because of fake propaganda that people were coming for their guns. Now, not so much. Kind of ironic.

zelmo1234
02-13-2018, 01:52 AM
Their sales are down because no one is currently panicking gun buyers. The gun industry experienced a huge surge under the last government because of fake propaganda that people were coming for their guns. Now, not so much. Kind of ironic.
Actually if the left had a clue, they would understand that Remington of all companies had the least to gain. Safety stated that the Bushmaster AR-15 was used in a shooting, but what he does not understand is that AR parts are for the most part interchangeable, Remington while it has its military / self defense offerings, was still based on being a company for the sportsman.

Ruger did a much better job in adjusting to the market.

Common
02-13-2018, 04:02 AM
repost

stjames1_53
02-13-2018, 05:51 AM
Today


'Everything Trump touches Dies'




Remington, Gun Maker Tied To Sandy Hook Massacre, Makes Deal With Lenders


http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-ap-remington-bankruptcy-sandy-hook-20180212-story.html


https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=DGWCWs_hHuiIggefy6awAg&q=Remington&oq=Remington&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i131k1j0l9.1935.4299.0.5632.10.9.0.0.0.0.12 7.816.8j1.9.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..1.9.816.0...0.p9qT5HAmYCc (https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=DGWCWs_hHuiIggefy6awAg&q=Remington&oq=Remington&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i131k1j0l9.1935.4299.0.5632.10.9.0.0.0.0.12 7.816.8j1.9.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..1.9.816.0...0.p9qT5HAmYCc)


MADISON, N.C. — Remington, the gun maker beset by falling sales and lawsuits tied to the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre (http://www.courant.com/topic/crime-law-justice/crime/shootings/sandy-hook-elementary-school-shooting-EVCAL00028-topic.html), has reached a financing deal that would allow it to continue operating as it seeks Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection.


The maker of the Bushmaster AR-15-style rifle used in the Connecticut shooting that left 20 first-graders and six educators dead in 2012, said Monday that the agreement with lenders will reduce its debt by about $700 million and add about $145 million in new capital.


The company was cleared of any wrongdoing in the shooting, but investors repulsed by the massacres distanced themselves from the company's owner, investment firm Cerberus Capital Management. Cerberus acquired the gun maker in 2007, just when gun sales began to skyrocket.



Firearm background checks, a reliable barometer of gun sales, had risen steadily for at least a decade.


That changed last year with the election of President Donald Trump (http://www.courant.com/topic/politics-government/donald-trump-PEBSL000163-topic.html), and it has taken a toll on the gun industry.



Gun sales spike on the election of candidates who are perceived to be more likely to pursue more stringent gun control laws, whether or not there is any truth in that perception.



The opposite has occurred since Trump was elected.

He became the first sitting president to address the National Rifle Association (http://www.courant.com/topic/crime-law-justice/national-rifle-association-of-america-ORCIG000080-topic.html) in three decades, telling members at their annual meeting last spring that “You have a true friend and champion in the White House.”




http://res.cloudinary.com/luvckye9s/image/upload/v1518495049/1_zwpvg7.png




In this Jan. 28, 2013, photo, firearms training unit Detective Barbara J. Mattson, of the Connecticut State Police, holds up a Bushmaster AR-15 rifle, the same make and model of gun used by Adam Lanza in the Sandy Hook School shooting, during a legislative hearing in Hartford.


http://res.cloudinary.com/luvckye9s/image/upload/v1518494723/hc-1518456165-mmqymaehpw-snap-image_xooaqs.jpg

chapter 11 is merely a reorganization....what is so important about this, exo? More pandering to your deepest terror? or merely projecting, once again..............

nathanbforrest45
02-13-2018, 08:50 AM
I don't understand. How does President Donald Trump have anything to do with this?

Besides there are dozens of gun manufacturers in this country.

http://www.americanfirearms.org/manufacturers/

Max Rockatansky
02-13-2018, 05:39 PM
Actually if the left had a clue, they would understand that Remington of all companies had the least to gain. Safety stated that the Bushmaster AR-15 was used in a shooting, but what he does not understand is that AR parts are for the most part interchangeable, Remington while it has its military / self defense offerings, was still based on being a company for the sportsman.

Ruger did a much better job in adjusting to the market.
When it comes to guns, the Left does not have a clue. Jus' sayin'.

Ravens Fan
02-14-2018, 01:25 PM
Duplicate posts merged.

Cletus
02-14-2018, 02:49 PM
There are a number of factors coming in to play here.

Obama is gone, so gun owners do feel more secure (rightfully so) these days, but there is more than that to consider.

The market is much more broad than it was in Reminton's heyday. There is really nothing that Remington does that someone else doesn't do better and in may cases, for less money. The Remington 870 is still the premier law enforcement shotgun in the country, but many agencies don't even carry shotguns any more. They carry ARs because they are easier to train in and use. The 700 is still a good rifle, but it has a lot of competition. Even the pimped out heavy barrel versions are being outclassed by guns like Ruger's Precision Rifle. (I have 3 precision rifles... A Remington 700, A Winchester Model 70, and a Ruger Precision Rifle and I would rank them Ruger first, Winchester second, Remington third.)

Remington handguns aren't even really in the game, although they sell a fair number of R1s. They are decent guns, but are overpriced and fall short compared to some other brands.

Bushmaster sales reflect more than just being tied to Sandy Hook. I actually think that is negligible. People don't care about that. AR manufacturers are a dime a dozen now. Ruger, Smith and Wesson, Sig, Colt and a whole bunch of smaller manufacturers are in the AR business now and the market is flooded with them. That fact has more to do with the drop in sales than anything else.

Remington just hasn't kept up.