Special Counsel Mueller indicts 13 Russians

[exotix]

*Breaking*

37 Page indictment appears to show that if and when the Russians are caught and/or extradited to the U.S. ... Mueller expects them to Flip ... on Trump and everyone associated with Trump who colluded and conspired .... and with the Russians and Wiki-Leaks ... to overthrow the Elections.



Mueller charges Russian nationals for meddling in US election (https://nypost.com/2018/02/16/mueller-indicts-russian-nationals-in-election-meddling/)


https://nypost.com/2018/02/16/mueller-indicts-russian-nationals-in-election-meddling/

https://www.google.com/search?ei=hCCHWvbHHoGWzwKy8I7oCA&q=Mueller+indicts+Russians&oq=Mueller+indicts+Russians&gs_l=psy-ab.12...4061.8505.0.11138.17.17.0.0.0.0.107.1143.1 6j1.17.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.12.848...0j0i67k1j0i131k1j33i160k1.0.EHP20n9 L7QI

Special Counsel Robert Mueller on Friday announced the indictment of 13 Russian nationals for meddling in the 2016 presidential election, CNN reported.

The indictments are the most significant development to date in his ongoing probe into Russian meddling and possible collusion with President Trump’s campaign.

The president has repeatedly dismissed charges that Russia interfered in the election, calling it “a hoax” and “fake news” — despite unanimity among the US intelligence community that Russia interfered to help him in his race against Hillary Clinton.



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[Safety]

Damn, this "nothingburger" now has cheese, lettuce, and tomato....

[exotix]

Happening Now

Rosenstein naming Russians, conspirators and co-conspirators, websites, 'bots, trolls on and on and on ...



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[texan]

First of all Exotix lead in is misleading. Secondly I read thru the wire fraud type indictments. Thus-far big yawn. Not to mention Trumps comments are out of context.

Thanks Captain Obvious Mueller.

[Safety]

I hope he lists their screen names also. I have my suspicions on tPF.

[exotix]

I hope he lists their screen names also. I have my suspicions on tPF.That's exactly what Rosenstein is doing ... and what he is saying is almost hard to believe ...

[MMC]

First of all Exotix lead in is misleading. Secondly I read thru the wire fraud type indictments. Thus-far big yawn. Not to mention Trumps comments are out of context.

Thanks Captain Obvious Mueller.


That's why MisterV had already jumped on it first.

http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/94632-Mueller-Indictments-of-Russians-LOL?p=2288947#post2288947

[texan]

Hate to break your hearts since you root against our democracy, but

"Rosenstein said there is no evidence in the indictment that any American was a knowing participant in the scheme, nor is there evidence that the scheme affected the outcome of the election."


Thanks for letting us know there were bots, dah!

[exotix]

FYI

This comes the day after Bannons' 20 hour interview where he refused to answer questions and/or answering from what was obvious what Trump and the Whitehouse told Bannon what to say.

[texan]

CNBC

BREAKING: Stocks rebound after indictments show no allegations of willing support by Americans (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/16/us-stocks-strong-week-volatility-rates.html)

[MMC]

Hate to break your hearts since you root against our democracy, but

"Rosenstein said there is no evidence in the indictment that any American was a knowing participant in the scheme, nor is there evidence that the scheme affected the outcome of the election."


Thanks for letting us know there were bots, dah!


Yeah.....maybe Admin can do something to show how many guests are bots. Some other sites do that. Members, Guests, and then Bots.

Baidus are Chinese bots. They usually have the most bots.

[texan]

FYI

This comes the day after Bannons' 20 hour interview where he refused to answer questions and/or answering from what was obvious what Trump and the Whitehouse told Bannon what to say.

You will need to clarify....

[exotix]

You will need to clarify....https://www.google.com/search?ei=9iCHWq_hOMyjzwLVvaDACA&q=Bannon&oq=Bannon&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0j0i67k1j0i131k1j0i67k1j0l6.1869005.1871356. 0.1872890.7.7.0.0.0.0.99.460.6.7.0....0...1.1.64.p sy-ab..0.6.460.0..46j0i131i67k1j0i46k1.55.O0EtLHmE8YM




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[Grokmaster]

Nothing whatsoever to do with Pres.Trump; when will we be indicting the Obama Swamp/Hillary Campaign for their interference in the election?

[MisterVeritis]

Gosh, this thread was posted after mine. Merge, perhaps?

[exotix]

*update*

Indictments include Americans paid by Russians to Meddle

[Grokmaster]

*update*

Indictments include Americans paid by Russians to Meddle

Americans also paid Russians to meddle: Hillary Clinton, the DNC and the Obama Swamp FBI/DOJ. When will we be indicting those traitors, I wonder?

[exotix]

Americans also paid Russians to meddle: Hillary Clinton, the DNC and the Obama Swamp FBI/DOJ.


When will we be indicting those traitors, I wonder?Lie.

[Grokmaster]

Lie.
A lie?
Only in Leftgoofyworld. Did you really think that is was going to just "go away"?
It is exactly what I said it is:
Americans also paid Russians to meddle: Hillary Clinton, the DNC and the Obama Swamp FBI/DOJ.


Memo: FBI Used Tainted Steele Dossier, Paid For By Hillary Clinton, As Reason To Spy On Trump

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/memo-fbi-used-tainted-steele-dossier-paid-for-by-hillary-clinton-as-reason-to-spy-on-trump/
Clinton campaign, DNC paid for research that led to Russia dossier


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/clinton-campaign-dnc-paid-for-research-that-led-to-russia-dossier/2017/10/24/226fabf0-b8e4-11e7-a908-a3470754bbb9_story.html?utm_term=.212d39f93fcd

[exotix]

FYI

Indictments also come on the heels of Trump Campaign Staffer Rick Gates who was Paul Manaforts' longtime business partner expected Plea Deal



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[Grokmaster]

Also NOTHING TO DO WITH Pres.Trump.

Your desperation is DRIPPING off of you.

Can't wait until the OIG report...about THIS, huh? :

Americans also paid Russians to meddle: Hillary Clinton, the DNC and the Obama Swamp FBI/DOJ.


Memo: FBI Used Tainted Steele Dossier, Paid For By Hillary Clinton, As Reason To Spy On Trump

https://www.investors.com/politics/e...-spy-on-trump/ (https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/memo-fbi-used-tainted-steele-dossier-paid-for-by-hillary-clinton-as-reason-to-spy-on-trump/)
Clinton campaign, DNC paid for research that led to Russia dossier


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.212d39f93fcd (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/clinton-campaign-dnc-paid-for-research-that-led-to-russia-dossier/2017/10/24/226fabf0-b8e4-11e7-a908-a3470754bbb9_story.html?utm_term=.212d39f93fcd)

[Safety]

I predict a lot of caps lock posts and spittle flying.

[MisterVeritis]

What did the Russians do that Crooked Hillary and her wholly-owned DNC didn't do?

[exotix]

A lie?
Only in Leftgoofyworld. Did you really think that is was going to just "go away"?
It is exactly what I said it is:
Americans also paid Russians to meddle: Hillary Clinton, the DNC and the Obama Swamp FBI/DOJ.


Memo: FBI Used Tainted Steele Dossier, Paid For By Hillary Clinton, As Reason To Spy On Trump

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/memo-fbi-used-tainted-steele-dossier-paid-for-by-hillary-clinton-as-reason-to-spy-on-trump/
Clinton campaign, DNC paid for research that led to Russia dossier


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/clinton-campaign-dnc-paid-for-research-that-led-to-russia-dossier/2017/10/24/226fabf0-b8e4-11e7-a908-a3470754bbb9_story.html?utm_term=.212d39f93fcdLet us know when a Grand Jury indicts Hillary, Obama and the DNC ... like a Grand Jury has indicted all these people ... http://res.cloudinary.com/luvckye9s/image/upload/v1478880454/_0_thumbsup_f7svhq.gif

[exotix]

I predict a lot of caps lock posts and spittle flying.http://res.cloudinary.com/luvckye9s/image/upload/v1478265286/_0_drivedevil_gl7fz5.gif ... http://res.cloudinary.com/luvckye9s/image/upload/v1478265312/_0_Greenie_e4jazt.gif

[Grokmaster]

I predict a lot of caps lock posts and spittle flying.

I predict frothy-mouthed Perpetual Victimhood, with the usual complete and utter inability to refute any points made.

[Tahuyaman]

Damn, this "nothingburger" now has cheese, lettuce, and tomato....

But still nothing which incriminates Trump.

[Grokmaster]

Let us know when a Grand Jury indicts Hillary, Obama and the DNC ... like a Grand Jury has indicted all these people ... http://res.cloudinary.com/luvckye9s/image/upload/v1478880454/_0_thumbsup_f7svhq.gif

Rome wasn't built in a day. Hillary, the longtime professional criminal, will have plausible deniability ready to go, but her guilt in the eyes of the American people is already established.

[stjames1_53]

FYI

This comes the day after Bannons' 20 hour interview where he refused to answer questions and/or answering from what was obvious what Trump and the Whitehouse told Bannon what to say.

"Rosenstein said there is no evidence in the indictment that any American was a knowing participant in the scheme, nor is there evidence that the scheme affected the outcome of the election."

what is it you don't get? You're only going to end up with a lot of lumps on your head when you keep hitting that brick wall.................

[stjames1_53]

Let us know when a Grand Jury indicts Hillary, Obama and the DNC ... like a Grand Jury has indicted all these people ... http://res.cloudinary.com/luvckye9s/image/upload/v1478880454/_0_thumbsup_f7svhq.gif

no need now. she's broke and a liar and almost all of America knows this. the angst is that she'll never sit her fat ass in the Oval Office again, like ever

[exotix]

Rome wasn't built in a day. Hillary, the longtime professional criminal, will have plausible deniability ready to go, but her guilt in the eyes of the American people is already established.You've been trying since Whitewater and could only get Billy Boy for lying about a BJ ... with all the Clinton persecutors ending up as scumbags for life ... LOL

[ripmeister]

Americans also paid Russians to meddle: Hillary Clinton, the DNC and the Obama Swamp FBI/DOJ. When will we be indicting those traitors, I wonder?

A swi......ng and a miss!

[stjames1_53]

A swi......ng and a miss!

oooookaaaaaaaaay, show us one message from the Russians that targeted you for a specific vote

[stjames1_53]

You've been trying since Whitewater and could only get Billy Boy for lying about a BJ ... with all the Clinton persecutors ending up as scumbags for life ... LOL

............or dead

[ripmeister]

oooookaaaaaaaaay, show us one message from the Russians that targeted you for a specific vote
Naaaaaa. I don't know if the Salesman is involved in any of this but its quite clear and has been so for some time that the Russkies hands are dirty regardless of what you and your ilk say. Donnie Bone Spurs like you still won't admit it as well. LOL!

[Grokmaster]

You've been trying since Whitewater and could only get Billy Boy for lying about a BJ ... with all the Clinton persecutors ending up as scumbags for life ... LOL
Over a dozen indictments for Whitewater, including the McDougalls, who the Clintons threw under the bus.

You think its "cool" that the slimy Clintons keep getting away with crimes = typical leftist.

[stjames1_53]

Damn, this "nothingburger" now has cheese, lettuce, and tomato....

now it's your turn, show us one post on your Facebook account where you were approached to vote a certain way

[Grokmaster]

A swi......ng and a miss!

Except for these, UNDISPUTED facts...that Hillary and the DNC lied about for a year:

Americans also paid Russians to meddle: Hillary Clinton, the DNC and the Obama Swamp FBI/DOJ.


Memo: FBI Used Tainted Steele Dossier, Paid For By Hillary Clinton, As Reason To Spy On Trump

https://www.investors.com/politics/e...-spy-on-trump/ (https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/memo-fbi-used-tainted-steele-dossier-paid-for-by-hillary-clinton-as-reason-to-spy-on-trump/)
Clinton campaign, DNC paid for research that led to Russia dossier


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.212d39f93fcd (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/clinton-campaign-dnc-paid-for-research-that-led-to-russia-dossier/2017/10/24/226fabf0-b8e4-11e7-a908-a3470754bbb9_story.html?utm_term=.212d39f93fcd)

[ripmeister]

Over a dozen indictments for Whitewater, including the McDougalls, who the Clintons threw under the bus.

You think its "cool" that the slimy Clintons keep getting away with crimes = typical leftist.
Would anybody care for a big cup of diversion or whataboutism with their nothingburger?

[stjames1_53]

Naaaaaa. I don't know if the Salesman is involved in any of this but its quite clear and has been so for some time that the Russkies hands are dirty regardless of what you and your ilk say. Donnie Bone Spurs like you still won't admit it as well. LOL!
so, I can take that as no one approached you to vote a certain way........gotcha
I've raised your bet and called you. Time to fold or show

[Grokmaster]

Naaaaaa. I don't know if the Salesman is involved in any of this but its quite clear and has been so for some time that the Russkies hands are dirty regardless of what you and your ilk say. Donnie Bone Spurs like you still won't admit it as well. LOL!
And were paid by the DNC for help in interfering with the election...and its outcome.


Americans also paid Russians to meddle: Hillary Clinton, the DNC and the Obama Swamp FBI/DOJ.


Memo: FBI Used Tainted Steele Dossier, Paid For By Hillary Clinton, As Reason To Spy On Trump

https://www.investors.com/politics/e...-spy-on-trump/ (https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/memo-fbi-used-tainted-steele-dossier-paid-for-by-hillary-clinton-as-reason-to-spy-on-trump/)
Clinton campaign, DNC paid for research that led to Russia dossier


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.212d39f93fcd (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/clinton-campaign-dnc-paid-for-research-that-led-to-russia-dossier/2017/10/24/226fabf0-b8e4-11e7-a908-a3470754bbb9_story.html?utm_term=.212d39f93fcd)

[exotix]

And were paid by the DNC for help in interfering with the election...and its outcome.


Americans also paid Russians to meddle: Hillary Clinton, the DNC and the Obama Swamp FBI/DOJ.


Memo: FBI Used Tainted Steele Dossier, Paid For By Hillary Clinton, As Reason To Spy On Trump

https://www.investors.com/politics/e...-spy-on-trump/ (https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/memo-fbi-used-tainted-steele-dossier-paid-for-by-hillary-clinton-as-reason-to-spy-on-trump/)
Clinton campaign, DNC paid for research that led to Russia dossier


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.212d39f93fcd (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/clinton-campaign-dnc-paid-for-research-that-led-to-russia-dossier/2017/10/24/226fabf0-b8e4-11e7-a908-a3470754bbb9_story.html?utm_term=.212d39f93fcd)Rea d the indictment ... this has been a Russian Covert operation since 2013 to set up Trump as president ... (meaning Mueller is aware of the failed Trump Taj Mahal that became a Russian money laundering operation which is believed to be the origin of Trumps' blackmailing by the Russians.)

[ripmeister]

And were paid by the DNC for help in interfering with the election...and its outcome.


Americans also paid Russians to meddle: Hillary Clinton, the DNC and the Obama Swamp FBI/DOJ.


Memo: FBI Used Tainted Steele Dossier, Paid For By Hillary Clinton, As Reason To Spy On Trump

https://www.investors.com/politics/e...-spy-on-trump/ (https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/memo-fbi-used-tainted-steele-dossier-paid-for-by-hillary-clinton-as-reason-to-spy-on-trump/)
Clinton campaign, DNC paid for research that led to Russia dossier


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.212d39f93fcd (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/clinton-campaign-dnc-paid-for-research-that-led-to-russia-dossier/2017/10/24/226fabf0-b8e4-11e7-a908-a3470754bbb9_story.html?utm_term=.212d39f93fcd)

Another swi......ng and a miss. Strike two!

[Grokmaster]

Read the indictment ... this is has been a Russian Covert operation since 2013 to set up Trump as president ...
Before he ever announced he was running? Uh-huh.

Please QUOTE THAT from the indictment. I found this: “Specialists were instructed to post content [on social media] that focused on politics in the USA and to use any opportunity to criticize Hillary and the rest except Sanders and Trump — we support them,” a part of the 37-page indictment reads.
I guess they re "Berners", too. Gee, who knew?
Has nothing to do with the Hillary/DNC/Obama Swamp PAYING THE RUSSIANS to help interfere with the election. Nice try.


Maybe you should contact the OIG, and cry to him, huh?

[stjames1_53]

Read the indictment ... this is has been a Russian Covert operation since 2013 to set up Trump as president ... (meaning Mueller is aware of the failed Trump Taj Mahal that became a Russian money laundering operation which belived to be the origin of Trumps' blackmailing)

how in thee hell could anyone have known Trump was going to run for president 3 years prior. What crystal ball told them that? Hell, Trump didn't know.......
Nope, no convictions will come out of this

[ripmeister]

so, I can take that as no one approached you to vote a certain way........gotcha
I've raised your bet and called you. Time to fold or show
I'll go with what all the national security agencies and now Mueller have had to say about this issue. That's good enough for me.

[stjames1_53]

I'll go with what all the national security agencies and now Mueller have had to say about this issue. That's good enough for me.

Of course you are, all Mueller has on his team are Clinton donors and Mueller is one himself........are you one as well?
however, that being said, Nunes and his team says no way

[exotix]

Before he ever announced he was running? Uh-huh.

Please QUOTE THAT from the indictment. I found this: “Specialists were instructed to post content [on social media] that focused on politics in the USA and to use any opportunity to criticize Hillary and the rest exceptSanders and Trump— we support them,” a part of the 37-page indictment reads.

Has nothing to do with the Hillary/DNC/Obama Swamp PAYING THE RUSSIANS to help interfere with the election. Nice try.


Maybe you should contact the OIG, and cry to him, huh?Easy, that was about the time Trump initiated the Obama Birth Certificate conspiracy. (Birther Hoaxes & Conspiracies)

[Tahuyaman]

Read the indictment ... this is has been a Russian Covert operation since 2013 to set up Trump as president ... (meaning Mueller is aware of the failed Trump Taj Mahal that became a Russian money laundering operation which is believed to be the origin of Trumps' blackmailing by the Russians.)

Actually it was an operation which sponsored both pro and anti Trump movements. It's intent was to cause chaos in the American system.

The Democrats are going to try to develop some creative spin on this. The thing they can't spin is the fact that Rosenstein has just informed the public that there was no Trump / Russia collusion.

[ripmeister]

how in thee hell could anyone have known Trump was going to run for president 3 years prior. What crystal ball told them that? Hell, Trump didn't know.......
Nope, no convictions will come out of this
I'd have to agree with this that POTUS Bone Spurs didn't know he would be running 3 years in advance. Hell, he doesn't know what he's doing tomorrow half the time.

[ripmeister]

Of course you are, all Mueller has on his team are Clinton donors and Mueller is one himself........are you one as well?
however, that being said, Nunes and his team says no way

More Little Boy who Cried Wolf. Nunes.....Really? LOL!

[stjames1_53]

Easy, that was about the time Trump initiated the Obama Birth Certificate conspiracy.
HRC was the one that brought it up when she was campaigning against Obama the first time, not Trump.
You cannot rewrite history for those who have lived through it.......

[Grokmaster]

Easy, that was about the time Trump initiated the Obama Birth Certificate conspiracy. (Birther Hoaxes & Conspiracies)
More madeup bullshit. The indictments have nothing to do with Trump...unlike the seditious conspiracy that Hillary is in up to her neck...and let's mot forget this:

opportunity to criticize Hillary and the rest except Sanders and Trump ..

[Tahuyaman]

I enjoy of the things exposed today was that the Russians had several internet troll farms where they used social media to help create chaos. I wonder if any of those trolls were members here at one time?

Rosenstein actually was kind of funny. I laughed at the way he presented the fact that the Russians sponsored both pro and anti Trump demonstrations in the same cities on the same day. You have to admit that is funny.

[stjames1_53]

More Little Boy who Cried Wolf. Nunes.....Really? LOL!
so, show us your cards or fold. show us any advertisement that approached you to vote a certain way on social media...any one will do just fine
You cannot because it never happened

[stjames1_53]

I enjoy of the things exposed today was that the Russians had several internet troll farms where they used social media to help create chaos. I wonder if any of those trolls were members here at one time?

washere was one...and so was Trueblue

[ripmeister]

I enjoy of the things exposed today was that the Russians had several internet troll farms where they used social media to help create chaos. I wonder if any of those trolls were members here at one time?
LOL! I was wondering the same thing.

[stjames1_53]

I'd have to agree with this that POTUS Bone Spurs didn't know he would be running 3 years in advance. Hell, he doesn't know what he's doing tomorrow half the time.

so, he's fluid...sounds like a good guy to me

[ripmeister]

so, show us your cards or fold. show us any advertisement that approached you to vote a certain way on social media...any one will do just fine
You cannot because it never happened

I wouldn't know about that specifically as I don't do social media. Never have, never will.

[Tahuyaman]

washere was one...and so was Trueblue

I could believe true blue was one. I'm not familiar with washere.

[stjames1_53]

I wouldn't know about that specifically as I don't do social media. Never have, never will.

so, you are not a reliable witness........gotcha
That being said, I appreciate your honesty

[Tahuyaman]

I wouldn't know about that specifically as I don't do social media. Never have, never will.

Isnt this a form of social media?

[exotix]

More madeup bull$#@!. The indictments have nothing to do with Trump...unlike the seditious conspiracy that Hillary is in up to her neck...and let's mot forget this:

opportunity to criticize Hillary and the rest except Sanders and Trump ..


This is way better than Hillary becoming president ... you would have tried to impeach her for Benghazi ... what Trumpf did was finally expose Republicans as an on-going criminal organization where you are see'ng indictments for high-treason criminal acts that makes RICO look like baby-fodder ... LOL

[stjames1_53]

I could believe true blue was one. I'm not familiar with washere.

the ex-mighty bethere

[stjames1_53]

This is way better than Hillary becoming president ... you would have tried to impeach her for Benghazi ... what Trumpf did was finally expose Republicans as an on-going criminal organization where you are see'ng indictments for high-treason criminal acts that makes RICO look like baby-fodder ... LOL
what high treason?

[Grokmaster]

This is way better than Hillary becoming president ... you would have tried to impeach her for Benghazi ... what Trumpf did was finally expose Republicans as an on-going criminal organization where you are see'ng indictments for high-treason criminal acts that makes RICO look like baby-fodder ... LOL
Except that the only campaign proven to have PAID THE RUSSIANS TO INTEFERE WITH THE ELECTION...is Hillary's...with help from the Obama Swamp...


DOJ Official Bruce Ohr Hid Wife’s Fusion GPS Payments From Ethics Official


Justice Department official Bruce Ohr did not disclose Fusion GPS was paying his wife
Ohr was demoted from his post after the information emerged
Willfully falsifying government ethics documents can result in jail time

And that's just Ohr...



Der....speaking of "ongoing criminal orgaizations".

[Ravens Fan]

Read the indictment ... this has been a Russian Covert operation since 2013 to set up Trump as president ... (meaning Mueller is aware of the failed Trump Taj Mahal that became a Russian money laundering operation which is believed to be the origin of Trumps' blackmailing by the Russians.)
They didn't start trying to help Trump until 2016, and then after the election were organizing events both for AND against Trump with the intent of sewing discord. (meaning that you are speculating yet again and nothing you suggest is based in fact).

[Tahuyaman]

If the Trump / Russia collusion meme isn't fully flushed yet, it's certainly swirling the bowl.

[Tahuyaman]

They didn't start trying to help Trump until 2016, and then after the election were organizing events both for AND against Trump with the intent of sewing discord. (meaning that you are speculating yet again and nothing you suggest is based in fact).


And with no input from Trump or his campaign.

[Ravens Fan]

More Little Boy who Cried Wolf. Nunes.....Really? LOL!

Can it be called crying wolf when you have evidence and facts on your side?

[ripmeister]

Isnt this a form of social media?
I guess it could be considered that. Don't really know. I guess perhaps a poster here could have been a pro Russian bot or something.

[Grokmaster]

"....Rosenstein told reporters the newest indictment contains no allegations of knowing collusion by members of the Trump team or a determination that the election was influenced as a result of the Russians' activities."

[ripmeister]

Can it be called crying wolf when you have evidence and facts on your side?
I assume you are referring to the Majority memo which was a whole lot of nuthin so any evidence and facts that you may be referring to where inconsequential. To try and make it something different is crying wolf.

[Safety]

But still nothing which incriminates Trump.

When did the investigation conclude? Oh, that's right, it's still ongoing.

[Grokmaster]

I assume you are referring to the Majority memo which was a whole lot of nuthin so any evidence and facts that you may be referring to where inconsequential. To try and make it something different is crying wolf.

Other than proving that the Hillary/DNC paid for dossier was used to illegally obtain FISA warrants, I suppose.

[exotix]

They didn't start trying to help Trump until 2016, and then after the election were organizing events both for AND against Trump with the intent of sewing discord. (meaning that you are speculating yet again and nothing you suggest is based in fact).No sweat ... simply have Trump release his Tax Returns ... and where he's basically hidden since 1995 ... specifically the reason for Trump declaring a $916 Million business loss.

[Safety]

now it's your turn, show us one post on your Facebook account where you were approached to vote a certain way

I don't divulge personal information to unstable people.

[stjames1_53]

No sweat ... simply have Trump release his Tax Returns ... and where he's basically hidden since 1995 ... specifically the reason for Trump declaring a $916 Million business loss.
that request is above your paygrade
Since the IRS has been over him like a cheap coat and they've found nothing, that means you have nothing. He could not have bought off the entire IRS...........in 1995

[ripmeister]

Other than proving that the Hillary/DNC paid for dossier was used to illegally obtain FISA warrants, I suppose.
Another canard. Nothing of the sort was proven from the Nunes memo no matter how often you say it.

[Ethereal]

Damn, this "nothingburger" now has cheese, lettuce, and tomato....
Russians were posting stuff on Facebook and Twitter.

How will the republic survive?

[stjames1_53]

I don't divulge personal information to unstable people.

so, no....you have nothing either
I was actually asking for the advertisements, which, apparently, you don't have either

[Ravens Fan]

I assume you are referring to the Majority memo which was a whole lot of nuthin so any evidence and facts that you may be referring to where inconsequential. To try and make it something different is crying wolf.
Has any of the memo been proven false? Schiff was supposedly going to release something that added to it, but then he went and added a bunch of sources and methods in an attempt to make the right look bad, and now no one is going to believe the liar.

Don't forget that the partially declassified referral from the Senate that was drafted before Nunes' memo not only collaborates what is said in the memo, but goes further.

I am not sure how you can claim it was a whole lot of nuthin, when Nunes has already been working on getting the FISA court records based on the information outlined in the memo.
Your Baghdad Bob impersonation is quite good though :wink:

[Ravens Fan]

No sweat ... simply have Trump release his Tax Returns ... and where he's basically hidden since 1995 ... specifically the reason for Trump declaring a $916 Million business loss.

I am fairly sure that Mueller has already looked at them. Next?

[Ethereal]

When George Washington was the President, the French ambassador came to America and recruited privateers and militia to fight against the British. This was in direct opposition to George Washington's foreign policy of neutrality. Washington directed him to stop and Genet refused. Later on, Washington granted Genet political asylum in America when it became clear that Genet would be executed if he returned to France.

Now the US government indicts foreigners for starting Facebook pages and saying mean things about a political candidate.

Land of the free, home of the brave.

[MMC]

I don't divulge personal information to unstable people.
So who do you get to write out your personal checks then.

[exotix]

When George Washington was the President, the French ambassador came to America and recruited privateers and militia to fight against the British. This was in direct opposition to George Washington's foreign policy of neutrality. Washington directed him to stop and Genet refused. Later on, Washington granted Genet political asylum in America when it became clear that Genet would be executed if he returned to France.

Now the US government indicts foreigners for starting Facebook pages and saying mean things about a political candidate.

Land of the free, home of the brave.Notice how allies change ... say for instance, it was the British who intercepted the Zimmerman Letter, turned it over to America and became the catalyst for the U.S. to enter WWI.

[Tahuyaman]

When did the investigation conclude? Oh, that's right, it's still ongoing.


You are free to keep hope alive. Don't let any facts disturb your dream.

[Tahuyaman]

No sweat ... simply have Trump release his Tax Returns ... and where he's basically hidden since 1995 ... specifically the reason for Trump declaring a $916 Million business loss.


Rachel Maddow already made a fool of herself in that arena.

[exotix]

I am fairly sure that Mueller has already looked at them. Next?Ending your statement with Next ? does not induce a furtherance of conversation ... it does the opposite ... it assumes you won the conversation ... in an almost juvenile way ... such that no further discussion is warranted.

[Ethereal]

Notice how allies change ... say for instance, it was the British who intercepted the Zimmerman Letter, turned it over to America and became the catalyst for the U.S. to enter WWI.

What I'm noticing is how paranoid and tyrannical the US government has become since it was first formed.

Activities that would have elicited no notice are now being treated as dangerous conspiracies against the country.

Just as another example, the whiskey rebels attacked US tax officials and burned down their buildings. George Washington suppressed the rebellion and then pardoned the offenders.

Now, a few ranchers break into a small federal facility in the middle of nowhere and the federal government tries to throw them in jail forever.

[MMC]

Ending your statement with Next ? does not induce a furtherance of conversation ... it does the opposite ... it assumes you won the conversation ... in an almost juvenile way ... such that no further discussion is warranted.
Message to Exo.....He didn't assume. He won. Just sayin.

[Tahuyaman]

Another canard. Nothing of the sort was proven from the Nunes memo no matter how often you say it.


It was proven that the Trump dossier was the foundation of the FISA Warrant. That's a fact you can't deny.

The only sliver of deniability is whether or not that was represented truthfully to the judge who granted the request. And that's a tiny sliver.

[exotix]

Just In


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[Ethereal]

Brennan, the man who was in charge of the CIA while it was spying on the Senate.

A very credible source.

[MMC]

so, no....you have nothing either
I was actually asking for the advertisements, which, apparently, you don't have either



Its a rough day for the leftness. Their whole Russian Collusion Trump card just got turned into a Conspiracy Theory by Mueller.

Should we go soft on the leftness..................nah! :evil:

[Tahuyaman]

The liberals must be getting really tired of getting their hopes up only to be shot down time after time. At some point the are going to be forced to accept the truth no matter how much it disturbs them.

[Ravens Fan]

Ending your statement with Next ? does not induce a furtherance of conversation ... it does the opposite ... it assumes you won the conversation ... in an almost juvenile way ... such that no further discussion is warranted.
How did I loose the conversation? You think Trump's taxes will show something, and I stated that Mueller has already had access to them (IIRC). That's pretty much the end of that conversation, because if there were anything in his taxes Mueller would use that against him. The next indicated that I was ready for whatever direction you wish to defect the topic to next.

[exotix]

Message to Exo.....He didn't assume. He won. Just sayin.He didn't win ... always watch former U.S. Intelligence Officer Malcolm Nance and read his books .... who can easily explain how Trump was shaped into becoming a Russian stooge through Reflexive Control via a well-known Russian covert operation termed as Russian Perception Management operations ...


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[MisterVeritis]

Let us know when a Grand Jury indicts Hillary, Obama and the DNC ... like a Grand Jury has indicted all these people ... http://res.cloudinary.com/luvckye9s/image/upload/v1478880454/_0_thumbsup_f7svhq.gif
That will be a great day.

Given that the Russians are not in the country, what was the point of indicting them?

[exotix]

How did I loose the conversation? You think Trump's taxes will show something, and I stated that Mueller has already had access to them (IIRC). That's pretty much the end of that conversation, because if there were anything in his taxes Mueller would use that against him. The next indicated that I was ready for whatever direction you wish to defect the topic to next.No sweat ... let me know when you can explain an entire swath of information and details that Mueller has investigated ... and on an almost unprecedented level ...

[MMC]

He didn't win ... always watch former U.S. Intelligence Officer Malcolm Nance and read his books .... who can easily explain how Trump was shaped into becoming a Russian stooge through Reflexive Control via a well-known Russian covert operation termed as Russian Perception Management operations ...


Just In


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:rollseyes:


During the election campaign, the group is accused of favoring Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont over Clinton in the Democratic primary and backed Trump while opposing GOP Sens. Marco Rubio of Florida and Ted Cruz of Texas.


By July 2016, about 80 employees were assigned to the project.


In the general election, the group encouraged third-party voting, the indictment says.


The Russian defendants, who may never face trial in the U.S., are accused of illegally engaging in election activities and of using stolen U.S. identity information to open bank accounts......snip~


http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/russian-troll-farm-targeted-us-election-13-months-before-trump-candidacy-indictment-shows/article/2649329

[Peter1469]

No American's involved.
*Breaking*

37 Page indictment appears to show that if and when the Russians are caught and/or extradited to the U.S. ... Mueller expects them to Flip ... on Trump and everyone associated with Trump who colluded and conspired .... and with the Russians and Wiki-Leaks ... to overthrow the Elections.



Mueller charges Russian nationals for meddling in US election (https://nypost.com/2018/02/16/mueller-indicts-russian-nationals-in-election-meddling/)


https://nypost.com/2018/02/16/mueller-indicts-russian-nationals-in-election-meddling/

https://www.google.com/search?ei=hCCHWvbHHoGWzwKy8I7oCA&q=Mueller+indicts+Russians&oq=Mueller+indicts+Russians&gs_l=psy-ab.12...4061.8505.0.11138.17.17.0.0.0.0.107.1143.1 6j1.17.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.12.848...0j0i67k1j0i131k1j33i160k1.0.EHP20n9 L7QI

Special Counsel Robert Mueller on Friday announced the indictment of 13 Russian nationals for meddling in the 2016 presidential election, CNN reported.

The indictments are the most significant development to date in his ongoing probe into Russian meddling and possible collusion with President Trump’s campaign.

The president has repeatedly dismissed charges that Russia interfered in the election, calling it “a hoax” and “fake news” — despite unanimity among the US intelligence community that Russia interfered to help him in his race against Hillary Clinton.



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[MisterVeritis]

Read the indictment ... this has been a Russian Covert operation since 2013 to set up Trump as president ... (meaning Mueller is aware of the failed Trump Taj Mahal that became a Russian money laundering operation which is believed to be the origin of Trumps' blackmailing by the Russians.)
So the Russians were supporting Trump before Candidate Trump announced? We need to find out what form of technology their intelligence experts are using and get us some.

[Safety]

So who do you get to write out your personal checks then.

Who t.f. still uses checks?

[exotix]

What I'm noticing is how paranoid and tyrannical the US government has become since it was first formed.

Activities that would have elicited no notice are now being treated as dangerous conspiracies against the country.

Just as another example, the whiskey rebels attacked US tax officials and burned down their buildings. George Washington suppressed the rebellion and then pardoned the offenders.

Now, a few ranchers break into a small federal facility in the middle of nowhere and the federal government tries to throw them in jail forever.Don't forget the Shay Rebellion ... that ended in a compromise that led to the drafting of the 2nd Amendment ... where every American gets a Gun.

[Ravens Fan]

No sweat ... let me know when you can explain an entire swath of information and details that Mueller has investigated ... and on an almost unprecedented level ...

You don't know anymore than I do about what he has or hasn't investigated... to include your "unprecedented" comment, that I doubt you can back up. Speculation can be quite wrong, as proven with today's indictments.

[exotix]

You don't know anymore than I do about what he has or hasn't investigated... to include your "unprecedented" comment, that I doubt you can back up. Speculation can be quite wrong, as proven with today's indictments.Notice how I didn't end my statement with Next ?

... as if I *won* ...

[Ravens Fan]

Notice how I didn't end my statement with Next ?

... as if I *won* ...
Well, that does prove you have a little more grip on reality than I originally thought...

[Peter1469]

Don't forget the Shay Rebellion ... that ended in a compromise that led to the drafting of the 2nd Amendment ... where every American gets a Gun.
The Militia Acts for the Colonies remained the same when the US formed.

The Second Amendment changed nothing. It was the status quo.

[exotix]

Well, that does prove you have a little more grip on reality than I originally thought...No it means that with the indictment of 13 Russians ... Trump lied to you that its all a hoax ... and fake news ...

[stjames1_53]

So the Russians were supporting Trump before Candidate Trump announced? We need to find out what form of technology their intelligence experts are using and get us some.

Ouija board or crystal ball............

[Ravens Fan]

No it means that with the indictment of 13 Russians ... Trump lied to you that its all a hoax.

And the entire left lied to you that Trump was involved.


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[Captdon]

Having the advantage of actually watching the announcement, the Russians duped Americans on the right and the left. The Russians organized pro and anti Trump rallies. There was no involvement by any American.

The whole thing started in 2014. Trump wasn't a candidate then.

Usual exo post.

[stjames1_53]

No it means that with the indictment of 13 Russians ... Trump lied to you that its all a hoax ... and fake news ...

no, silly....it means Trump had nothing to do with it, as much as you hope and wish...............
as usual, you are rewriting the story to suit your narrative............you should really get out of the forums. You've been taking too much of a beating lately

[Ravens Fan]

No it means that with the indictment of 13 Russians ... Trump lied to you that its all a hoax ... and fake news ...

I also don’t remember Trump saying that Russian interference was a hoax... just that idea that he had been involved.


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[Captdon]

You will need to clarify....

I will. Bannon talked to Mueller's team for 20 hours. He then told the committee he wasn't talking to them. That's all it was.

[exotix]

I also don’t remember Trump saying that Russian interference was a hoax... just that idea that he had been involved.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThat'll be news from Yates to Comey.

[stjames1_53]

That'll be news to Comey.

everything is news to Comey....he's in it up to his neck.

[Captdon]

*update*

Indictments include Americans paid by Russians to Meddle

No, it doesn't. It is 13 Russians. There are unindicted co-conspirators.

[stjames1_53]

No, it doesn't. It is 13 Russians. There are unindicted co-conspirators.

exo tends to rewrite those news articles to suit their agenda...............
it's called plagiarism

[Ravens Fan]

That'll be news from Yates to Comey.

Prove me wrong, I don’t mind.


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[Captdon]

FYI

Indictments also come on the heels of Trump Campaign Staffer Rick Gates who was Paul Manaforts' longtime business partner expected Plea Deal



https://www.google.com/search?ei=SCiHWoGiLIykzwK8tJH4Aw&q=Gates&oq=Gates&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i131k1j0j0i3k1j0i131k1j0l6.1033790.1035516. 0.1036986.6.6.0.0.0.0.88.413.5.6.0....0...1.1.64.p sy-ab..0.5.411.0..0i67k1j0i131i67k1.69.gyowxDvzVWA


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Both of these indictments are for things that happened ten years ago. Nothing to do with Trump.

[MMC]

No it means that with the indictment of 13 Russians ... Trump lied to you that its all a hoax ... and fake news ...

No it means the Trump Russian Collusion is.....Ovaaaa! Nothing more than a Conspiracy theory. And the leftness will need to Help Hillary come up with a way to Blame BO the Peep.

[Captdon]

............or dead

Mostly dead.

[exotix]

No, it doesn't. It is 13 Russians. There are unindicted co-conspirators.

Prove me wrong, I don’t mind.
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Both of these indictments are for things that happened ten years ago. Nothing to do with Trump.
Sure, add the 13 Russians to these guys ...




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[Tahuyaman]

I just watched a liberal hack on CNN say that this is no big deal. He just said this is the equivalent of a third piece in a thousand piece jig saw puzzle.

[Captdon]

Naaaaaa. I don't know if the Salesman is involved in any of this but its quite clear and has been so for some time that the Russkies hands are dirty regardless of what you and your ilk say. Donnie Bone Spurs like you still won't admit it as well. LOL!

Of course the Russians meddled. Who denied that? We do deny that Trump is involved. That's what ruffles your ass feathers.

[Ravens Fan]

Sure, add the 13 Russians to these guys ...




http://res.cloudinary.com/luvckye9s/image/upload/v1513224215/100_0551_latrzp_nzixcd.jpg

What about them? Any of them been indicted or found guilty of anything even close to conspiracy/collusion? Nope. Gotta try harder than that ;)


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[stjames1_53]

Read the indictment ... this has been a Russian Covert operation since 2013 to set up Trump as president ... (meaning Mueller is aware of the failed Trump Taj Mahal that became a Russian money laundering operation which is believed to be the origin of Trumps' blackmailing by the Russians.)

got proof?

[exotix]

I just watched a liberal hack on CNN say that this is no big deal. He just said this is the equivalent of a third piece in a thousand piece jig saw puzzle.According to Trump a thousand pieces is a hoax.

[Ravens Fan]

Sure, add the 13 Russians to these guys ...




http://res.cloudinary.com/luvckye9s/image/upload/v1513224215/100_0551_latrzp_nzixcd.jpg

Not to mention... I asked for proof that Trump called the entire Russian interference a hoax and not just the part about his collusion. You attempted to prove something already show to be false so far by Mueller himself.


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[Captdon]

Read the indictment ... this has been a Russian Covert operation since 2013 to set up Trump as president ... (meaning Mueller is aware of the failed Trump Taj Mahal that became a Russian money laundering operation which is believed to be the origin of Trumps' blackmailing by the Russians.)

That's a lie too. The indictments say clearly it started in 2014. The idea that the Russians could set up Trump to be President is ludicrous at best.

[exotix]

Not to mention... I asked for proof that Trump called the entire Russian interference a hoax and not just the part about his collusion. You attempted to prove something already show to be false so far by Mueller himself.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkHold on ... I'm researching on how many times Trump has stated the words hoax, fake news and collusion ...

[Captdon]

I'll go with what all the national security agencies and now Mueller have had to say about this issue. That's good enough for me.

Well, what was that? Either you were approached or you weren't. The indictments say nothing they did swayed any votes.

[Captdon]

Easy, that was about the time Trump initiated the Obama Birth Certificate conspiracy. (Birther Hoaxes & Conspiracies)

Again, no it wasn't. He started saying that in 2011.

[stjames1_53]

Notice how allies change ... say for instance, it was the British who intercepted the Zimmerman Letter, turned it over to America and became the catalyst for the U.S. to enter WWI.

https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.A9V4uYrdhV2w3NNaSdCMEgHaGJ&pid=Api

[Ravens Fan]

Hold on ... I'm researching on how many times Trump has stated the words hoax, fake news and collusion ...

Which still wouldn’t prove me wrong.... re-read what I said.


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[Captdon]

This is way better than Hillary becoming president ... you would have tried to impeach her for Benghazi ... what Trumpf did was finally expose Republicans as an on-going criminal organization where you are see'ng indictments for high-treason criminal acts that makes RICO look like baby-fodder ... LOL


Such as?

[MMC]

Ranking Dem On Intel Committee: *I* Think We Have Evidence Of Trump Campaign Colluding With Russia


Well, Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA), the ranking member on the House Intelligence Committee, says he thinks there’s evidence of collusion and obstruction of justice. This information isn’t public yet, however. Yes, how convenient, congressman (via The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/feb/14/trump-russia-investigation-evidence-collusion-obstruction-adam-schiff)):


Adam Schiff, the top Democrat on the House intelligence committee, said Wednesday that the panel had seen an “abundance” of evidence of collusion with Russia and obstruction by Donald Trump’s campaign and administration that is not yet public.
Speaking to reporters in Washington, Schiff said a lot of information was already in the public domain that pointed to extensive contacts between the Trump campaign team and the Kremlin, and later efforts by the Trump entourage to cover up those contacts. But Schiff said there was much more to come out.
He said: “There is certainly an abundance of non-public information that we’ve gathered in the investigation. And I think some of that non-public evidence is evidence on the issue of collusion and some … on the issue of obstruction.”


Yeah, let’s just relax for a second here, congressman. You were duped into investigating whether Russia had nude photos (https://townhall.com/tipsheet/chrisreeves/2018/02/07/adam-schiff-fooled-by-russian-pranksters-claiming-putin-had-nude-photos-of-trump-n2445686) of Trump last year. Also, you said that there is no definitive proof (https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2017/04/04/ranking-house-democrat-on-intel-committee-no-definitive-proof-of-collusion-betwe-n2307808) of collusion in April of 2017. In March of 2017, you said that there was circumstantial evidence and, in your opinion, evidence of deception.


Schiff may think there’s collusion, which certainly satisfies his Democratic colleagues, but it remains to be seen. It should be taken with a grain of salt, especially for a man who got tricked into doing a nude photo search of the president. .....snip~


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2018/02/16/ranking-dem-on-intel-committee-i-think-we-have-evidence-of-trump-campaign-coll-n2450142



AHAHAHAHAHAh.....this libtard doesn't even know his Russian Collusion has just been squashed. http://www.debatepolitics.com/images/smilies/lmfao.gif


Oh well.....back to Obstruction eh FullofSchiff. http://www.debatepolitics.com/images/smilies/New_Smilies/think.gif

[Captdon]

I assume you are referring to the Majority memo which was a whole lot of nuthin so any evidence and facts that you may be referring to where inconsequential. To try and make it something different is crying wolf.

Even the Dems didn't deny the facts of that memo.

[Captdon]

How did I loose the conversation? You think Trump's taxes will show something, and I stated that Mueller has already had access to them (IIRC). That's pretty much the end of that conversation, because if there were anything in his taxes Mueller would use that against him. The next indicated that I was ready for whatever direction you wish to defect the topic to next.

If there was anything there the IRS would own him.

[Captdon]

What I'm noticing is how paranoid and tyrannical the US government has become since it was first formed.

Activities that would have elicited no notice are now being treated as dangerous conspiracies against the country.

Just as another example, the whiskey rebels attacked US tax officials and burned down their buildings. George Washington suppressed the rebellion and then pardoned the offenders.

Now, a few ranchers break into a small federal facility in the middle of nowhere and the federal government tries to throw them in jail forever.

That shows Washington was setting an example. He didn't have to do it. He was a great president for setting a precedence, pun intended.

[exotix]

Which still wouldn’t prove me wrong.... re-read what I said.

Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkSure, notice how the indictment was written ... this is barely an indictment ... this is a tip of the iceberg and this was purposely done this way ... basically a furtherance of the *Prisoners Dilemma* ... getting people to flip on each other to save themselves ... only now, made public ... which means something ...



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[Captdon]

He didn't win ... always watch former U.S. Intelligence Officer Malcolm Nance and read his books .... who can easily explain how Trump was shaped into becoming a Russian stooge through Reflexive Control via a well-known Russian covert operation termed as Russian Perception Management operations ...


Just In


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Now you're going off the deep end.

[Captdon]

Don't forget the Shay Rebellion ... that ended in a compromise that led to the drafting of the 2nd Amendment ... where every American gets a Gun.

Wrong again. The first Congress added the amendments because they were not written in the Constitution itself. It was a promise made to get the Constitution passed. Every American doesn't get a gun. It's about the right to keep and bear arms.

[Ravens Fan]

Sure, notice how the indictment was written ... this is barely an indictment ... this is a tip of the iceberg and this was purposely done this way ... basically a furtherance of the *Prisoners Dilemma* ... getting people to flip on each other to save themselves ... only now, made public ... which means something ...



http://res.cloudinary.com/luvckye9s/image/upload/v1518817554/9_lxyj9z.png

Ok, I’ll give you a win here, on Trump lumping the interference and collusion together in this tweet. Although, I think most people know his focus was on the collusion part.

As to the rest of what you said, more speculation based on imagination.



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[Captdon]

No it means that with the indictment of 13 Russians ... Trump lied to you that its all a hoax ... and fake news ...

and you don't have a grip on reality.

[ripmeister]

Has any of the memo been proven false? Schiff was supposedly going to release something that added to it, but then he went and added a bunch of sources and methods in an attempt to make the right look bad, and now no one is going to believe the liar.

Don't forget that the partially declassified referral from the Senate that was drafted before Nunes' memo not only collaborates what is said in the memo, but goes further.

I am not sure how you can claim it was a whole lot of nuthin, when Nunes has already been working on getting the FISA court records based on the information outlined in the memo.
Your Baghdad Bob impersonation is quite good though :wink:
I've always said that we need to see the source documents, ie the FISA application to really know. The Nunes memo did nothing to answer this question.

[MMC]

http://luckypuppy.net/BLOG/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Malcolm-Nance.jpg


Oh my.....are those bars on sliding plexiglass doors behind Malcohm. What did you do now Malcohm and ya better not let the guards see you with those scissors. :laugh:

[ripmeister]

It was proven that the Trump dossier was the foundation of the FISA Warrant. That's a fact you can't deny.

The only sliver of deniability is whether or not that was represented truthfully to the judge who granted the request. And that's a tiny sliver.
That simply is not true. The foundation of the FISA application was the report from the Australian government to the FBI which preceeded the dossier.

[Captdon]

Sure, add the 13 Russians to these guys ...




http://res.cloudinary.com/luvckye9s/image/upload/v1513224215/100_0551_latrzp_nzixcd.jpg

Again. The Manafort and Gates indictments were for money laundering ten years ago. has nothing to do with Trump. You should at least try.

[exotix]

Ok, I’ll give you a win here, on Trump lumping the interference and collusion together in this tweet.


Although, I think most people know his focus was on the collusion part.

As to the rest of what you said, more speculation based on imagination.



Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkNot good enough .. you badgered me as if I was a liar and now you're making up hypotheticals and speculations as if I now have to address those ... furthered by the fact you actually made fun of my mental faculties ...




Well, that does prove you have a little more grip on reality than I originally thought...

[Ravens Fan]

I've always said that we need to see the source documents, ie the FISA application to really know. The Nunes memo did nothing to answer this question.

I totally agree that we need to see the Source documents.

The Grassley/Graham letter to the FBI did though. They said the FISA application relies heavily on the Dossier.


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[Captdon]

Sure, notice how the indictment was written ... this is barely an indictment ... this is a tip of the iceberg and this was purposely done this way ... basically a furtherance of the *Prisoners Dilemma* ... getting people to flip on each other to save themselves ... only now, made public ... which means something ...



http://res.cloudinary.com/luvckye9s/image/upload/v1518817554/9_lxyj9z.png

Oh, so now the indictment is wrong? Mueller wrote it.

[ripmeister]

Of course the Russians meddled. Who denied that? We do deny that Trump is involved. That's what ruffles your ass feathers.
Nothing of mine is ruffled. I've always doubted the collusion thing and have said so. If he gets into any trouble it will be around an obstruction charge. What I want is full transparency and truth. I think Mueller is gathering such. Which way it goes, who knows.

[Bob the Slob]

FYI

This comes the day after Bannons' 20 hour interview where he refused to answer questions and/or answering from what was obvious what Trump and the Whitehouse told Bannon what to say.

The twenty hour interview was with Mueller, where Bannon did NOT refuse to talk. the Nunes intelligence committe was where Bannon refused to talk and said Trump told him not to...setting up Trump for obstruction.

[Grokmaster]

Sure, notice how the indictment was written ... this is barely an indictment ... this is a tip of the iceberg and this was purposely done this way ... basically a furtherance of the *Prisoners Dilemma* ... getting people to flip on each other to save themselves ... only now, made public ... which means something ...



http://res.cloudinary.com/luvckye9s/image/upload/v1518817554/9_lxyj9z.png

More madeup bullshit from the tPF champion...

[Tahuyaman]

That simply is not true. The foundation of the FISA application was the report from the Australian government to the FBI which preceeded the dossier.


There is no amount of evidence which will get a hard partisan liberal to acknowledge the truth. You have your mind made up and to hell with the facts.

[Grokmaster]

That simply is not true. The foundation of the FISA application was the report from the Australian government to the FBI which preceeded the dossier.
Bullshit. There was NO FISA WARRANT ISSUED on Page before October, 2016. Makeup some more nonsense.

[ripmeister]

Even the Dems didn't deny the facts of that memo.
Ok, and the facts were inconsequential. What the dems did object to was the cherry picking and taking things out or context which supposedly was addressed in the minority report which we have yet to see.

[Grokmaster]

Add the 13 Russians to THESE MISCREANTS, is more like it:


22762

[Bob the Slob]

Again. The Manafort and Gates indictments were for money laundering ten years ago. has nothing to do with Trump. You should at least try.
That's just ONE Of the charges. You don't know what the involvement CURRENTLY is or was in 2016 and 2017 with Trumepr and these oligarchs who have been indicted and Gates and Manafort.

[Tahuyaman]

I see how the left is spinning this. They are saying that this proves Trump is wrong when he says the Russian meddling accusation is a hoax. Actually Trump doesn't say that. What he says is the Trump/Russia collusion thing is a hoax. That has been shown to be correct.

For the left to support their partisan stance they need to alter Trump's position.

[Bob the Slob]

Add the 13 Russians to THESE MISCREANTS, is more like it:





Sorry. there's no reason to investigate. and that's from Sessions.

[stjames1_53]

If there was anything there the IRS would own him.


That simply is not true. The foundation of the FISA application was the report from the Australian government to the FBI which preceeded the dossier.

that crap from the Australian was presented AFTER the investigation was started. and what can you take away from a drunken Aussie? Where's his proof? it's hearsay............

[exotix]

I see how the left is spinning this. They are saying that this proves Trump is wrong when he says the Russian meddling accusation is a hoax. Actually Trump doesn't say that. What he says is the Trump/Russia collusion thing is a hoax. That has been shown to be correct.

For the left to support their partisan stance they need to alter Trump's position.I'd wager that Trump will not use the word hoax again after these indictments ...

[ripmeister]

There is no amount of evidence which will get a hard partisan liberal to acknowledge the truth. You have your mind made up and to hell with the facts.
Back at ya Boss. You need to review the timeline of events with regard to the FISA warrant.

[stjames1_53]

If there was anything there the IRS would own him.


Not good enough .. you badgered me as if I was a liar and now you're making up hypotheticals and speculations as if I now have to address those ... furthered by the fact you actually made fun of my mental faculties ...


making up hypotheticals and speculations
this^^^ from the champion of speculation

[zelmo1234]

Naaaaaa. I don't know if the Salesman is involved in any of this but its quite clear and has been so for some time that the Russkies hands are dirty regardless of what you and your ilk say. Donnie Bone Spurs like you still won't admit it as well. LOL!
It is so nice to know that liberals think this way. It makes is so much easier to fire them when you have too, and most of the time you have to because they want to be paid for no work.

[Bob the Slob]

I see how the left is spinning this. They are saying that this proves Trump is wrong when he says the Russian meddling accusation is a hoax. Actually Trump doesn't say that. What he says is the Trump/Russia collusion thing is a hoax. That has been shown to be correct.

For the left to support their partisan stance they need to alter Trump's position.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_lSiY4HD3U

[Bob the Slob]

this^^^ from the champion of speculation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skDLXhtbkSg

[Bob the Slob]

It is so nice to know that liberals think this way. It makes is so much easier to fire them when you have too, and most of the time you have to because they want to be paid for no work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjo87vcGAds

[zelmo1234]

Read the indictment ... this has been a Russian Covert operation since 2013 to set up Trump as president ... (meaning Mueller is aware of the failed Trump Taj Mahal that became a Russian money laundering operation which is believed to be the origin of Trumps' blackmailing by the Russians.)

How did they know that Trump was running in 2013 he did not announce until 2015

And the BIG question? Why would they want a Capitalist Trump over a Socialist Hillary whom they already paid off in the Uranium scandal

[stjames1_53]

If there was anything there the IRS would own him.


I'd wager that Trump will not use the word hoax again after these indictments ...

which indictment are you referring to? The ones that date back ten years? Before Trump was associated with them?
How does that implicate Trump?

[Ravens Fan]

Not good enough .. you badgered me as if I was a liar and now you're making up hypotheticals and speculations as if I now have to address those ... furthered by the fact you actually made fun of my mental faculties ...

You said I was wrong and I asked you to prove it. You responded with something totally different and I pointed it out. Then, you stated that you were researching things unrelated to what we were discussing, and I pointed that out. So, when you did come through and prove me wrong, I admitted it. Not sure what else there is to say about it.

That was snark, in reaponse to your snark.


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[exotix]

You said I was wrong and I asked you to prove it. You responded with something totally different and I pointed it out. Then, you stated that you were researching things unrelated to what we were discussing, and I pointed that out. So, when you did come through and prove me wrong, I admitted it. Not sure what else there is to say about it.

That was snark, in reaponse to your snark.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkOk, got it.

[Grokmaster]

That's just ONE Of the charges. You don't know what the involvement CURRENTLY is or was in 2016 and 2017 with Trumepr and these oligarchs who have been indicted and Gates and Manafort.
Madeup bullshit. They have both been charged with what they are charged with. Has NOTHING to do with Pres.Trump, just like the Russians indicted today.

[stjames1_53]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjo87vcGAds


and just how did Russia interfere with this election? Did your receive any unsolicited information as to who to vote for?

[Tahuyaman]

That's just ONE Of the charges. You don't know what the involvement CURRENTLY is or was in 2016 and 2017 with Trumepr and these oligarchs who have been indicted and Gates and Manafort.

You and the other left wingers here refuse to accept the facts. But that doesn't matter. The facts exist whether or not you have the courage the accept them.

[Bob the Slob]

I totally agree that we need to see the Source documents.

The Grassley/Graham letter to the FBI did though. They said the FISA application relies heavily on the Dossier.


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Which is what they wanted their letter to say. The FISA was administered BEFORE the dossier was around. It was done on Carter Page in 2013 when he admitted being a Russian Agent. it was renewed THREE times, this last time with working with Trump was the third time.

http://time.com/5132126/carter-page-russia-2013-letter/

Makes you wonder why Trump would hire a guy who brags about being a Russian agent, doesn't it?

[Bob the Slob]

You and the other left wingers here refuse to accept the facts. But that doesn't matter. The facts exist whether or not you have the courage the accept them.
I gave you facts. And continue to do so. Your ignoring them is no longer a tactic...it just reveals your willingness to support a traitor to our nation as Trump is.

[Dr. Who]

I could believe true blue was one. I'm not familiar with washere.

I think he means bethere

[Ravens Fan]

Ok, and the facts were inconsequential. What the dems did object to was the cherry picking and taking things out or context which supposedly was addressed in the minority report which we have yet to see.

Because Schiff purposely left classified sources and methods in his report in an attempt to make the other side look bad. Trump wasn’t falling for it and put it back on Schiff. If it really contained anything that would change the info in the Nunes memo, would he have wanted it out and not played stupid games?


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[Bob the Slob]

Madeup bull$#@!. They have both been charged with what they are charged with. Has NOTHING to do with Pres.Trump, just like the Russians indicted today.
Go ahead and live in your dream. But now that the Russians are snagged, think they'll sing like Bannon did to Mueller about Trump's corruption in the elections?

[Bob the Slob]

Because Schiff purposely left classified sources and methods in his report in an attempt to make the other side look bad. Trump wasn’t falling for it and put it back on Schiff. If it really contained anything that would change the info in the Nunes memo, would he have wanted it out and not played stupid games?


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No, he went through the FBI and DOJ before releasing those memos and sources to Trumper..unlike Nunes and Trumper who just released classified information without FBI and DOJ reading it.

[Tahuyaman]

According to Trump a thousand pieces is a hoax.

According to Trump the collision meme is a hoax. That has now been proven to be true.

[Grokmaster]

Sorry. there's no reason to investigate. and that's from Sessions.

More madeup bullshit. They ARE BEING INVESTIGATED....der

Do you EVER post anything that'd not complete, easily debunked BULLSHIT?

Justice Department inspector general to investigate pre-election actions by department and FBI


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/01/12/justice-department-inspector-general-to-investigate-pre-election-actions-by-department-and-fbi/?utm_term=.eb212a8d1d5c

[stjames1_53]

Which is what they wanted their letter to say. The FISA was administered BEFORE the dossier was around. It was done on Carter Page in 2013 when he admitted being a Russian Agent. it was renewed THREE times, this last time with working with Trump was the third time.

http://time.com/5132126/carter-page-russia-2013-letter/

Makes you wonder why Trump would hire a guy who brags about being a Russian agent, doesn't it?

when and where did Page admit this? He got removed because of his domestic issues.

[zelmo1234]

This is way better than Hillary becoming president ... you would have tried to impeach her for Benghazi ... what Trumpf did was finally expose Republicans as an on-going criminal organization where you are see'ng indictments for high-treason criminal acts that makes RICO look like baby-fodder ... LOL

That is Great but how do you explain that they said that this does not go back to any candidate or American, and it did not effect the outcome of the election? They were very clear that this does not have any connection to Trump?

Also you said that they are going to cut deals with the Russians? They are not coming back into the USA, you will never even see them in front of Mueller

[Tahuyaman]

I think he means bethere I got that. Bethere was too vapid to be anything other than what he appeared to be. A common fool.

[stjames1_53]

I gave you facts. And continue to do so. Your ignoring them is no longer a tactic...it just reveals your willingness to support a traitor to our nation as Trump is.

and just what has he done to betray our country?

[Tahuyaman]

I gave you facts. And continue to do so. Your ignoring them is no longer a tactic...it just reveals your willingness to support a traitor to our nation as Trump is.

you have never once presented a fact here.

[Grokmaster]

I gave you facts. And continue to do so. Your ignoring them is no longer a tactic...it just reveals your willingness to support a traitor to our nation as Trump is.
Right. Like this "fact"?

http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Bob the Slob http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://thepoliticalforums.com/showthread.php?p=2289234#post2289234) Sorry. there's no reason to investigate. and that's from Sessions.





When THIS is the FACT:

Justice Department inspector general to investigate pre-election actions by department and FBI


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.eb212a8d1d5c (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/01/12/justice-department-inspector-general-to-investigate-pre-election-actions-by-department-and-fbi/?utm_term=.eb212a8d1d5c)

[Tahuyaman]

Back at ya Boss. You need to review the timeline of events with regard to the FISA warrant.

You are wrong. You are just too prideful to admit it.

[Tahuyaman]

I'd wager that Trump will not use the word hoax again after these indictments ...


I'll bet he will. The collusion meme has been proven to be a hoax. None of these indictment support the collusion thing in any way shape or form. I know it's a sad day for you and the other liberal loons here. You'll get over it.

[Grokmaster]

Which is what they wanted their letter to say. The FISA was administered BEFORE the dossier was around. It was done on Carter Page in 2013 when he admitted being a Russian Agent. it was renewed THREE times, this last time with working with Trump was the third time.

http://time.com/5132126/carter-page-russia-2013-letter/

Makes you wonder why Trump would hire a guy who brags about being a Russian agent, doesn't it?

Complete BULLSHIT. There was no FISA warrant on Page until Oct., 2016.

Read your OWN EFFIN LINK, EINSTEIN.

More madeup nonsense.

[Grokmaster]

Back at ya Boss. You need to review the timeline of events with regard to the FISA warrant.

Please show us the statement that there was a FISA WARRANT issued on Page before Oct. 2016.

[Grokmaster]

Waiting for Mr.Horowitz....



Justice Department inspector general to investigate pre-election actions by department and FBI


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.eb212a8d1d5c (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/01/12/justice-department-inspector-general-to-investigate-pre-election-actions-by-department-and-fbi/?utm_term=.eb212a8d1d5c)

[Bob the Slob]

and just what has he done to betray our country?
Gone along with the Russians in the Middle East, not signed the Russian sanctions into law for interfering with our elections.

[exotix]

I'll bet he will. The collusion meme has been proven to be a hoax. None of these indictment support the collusion thing in any way shape or form. I know it's a sad day for you and the other liberal loons here. You'll get over it.Yes ?

Give us an example how Trumpf will use the terms hoax, fake news and collusion now.

[Bob the Slob]

Waiting for Mr.Horowitz....



Justice Department inspector general to investigate pre-election actions by department and FBI


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.eb212a8d1d5c (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/01/12/justice-department-inspector-general-to-investigate-pre-election-actions-by-department-and-fbi/?utm_term=.eb212a8d1d5c)

Can't access this. You have another source? Something this big should be on Fox, right?

[Tahuyaman]

You need to take it easy on the liberals here. They had such high hopes that Trump and the Russians were in cahoots to alter the election and that they were going to get the impeachment they desperately want. Their hopes have been crushed yet again. It’s going to take them some time to come to terms with this.

[Tahuyaman]

Can't access this. You have another source? Something this big should be on Fox, right?
I had no problem with the link.

[Bob the Slob]

You need to take it easy on the liberals here. They had such high hopes that Trump and the Russians were in cahoots to alter the election and that they were going to get the impeachment they desperately want. Their hopes have been crushed yet again. It’s going to take them some time to come to terms with this.


It's not over yet. When the russians squeal, because they can see Trump is of no use to them, we'll see what is really going on with Trumper not signing the Russian sanctions nor releasing his tax returns for 12 years past.

[Bob the Slob]

I had no problem with the link.

So you paid the money to see it?

[Tahuyaman]

It's not over yet. When the russians squeal, because they can see Trump is of no use to them, we'll see what is really going on with Trumper not signing the Russian sanctions nor releasing his tax returns for 12 years past.

you can tell yourself anything you want if it helps start the healing process.

[Tahuyaman]

So you paid the money to see it?


No.

[Bob the Slob]

you can tell yourself anything you want if it helps start the healing process.

Oh, I just follow the facts. I'm a leftie...I don't hear voices in my head like the right wingers do. ;)

[Tahuyaman]

Waiting for Mr.Horowitz....



Justice Department inspector general to investigate pre-election actions by department and FBI


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.eb212a8d1d5c (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/01/12/justice-department-inspector-general-to-investigate-pre-election-actions-by-department-and-fbi/?utm_term=.eb212a8d1d5c)
Interesting. However the liberals here aren’t going to believe the report is credible unless it confirms their partisan view.

[zelmo1234]

Sure, notice how the indictment was written ... this is barely an indictment ... this is a tip of the iceberg and this was purposely done this way ... basically a furtherance of the *Prisoners Dilemma* ... getting people to flip on each other to save themselves ... only now, made public ... which means something ...

OK that is great, how do we get them back from Russia?

http://res.cloudinary.com/luvckye9s/image/upload/v1518817554/9_lxyj9z.png

[NapRover]

Was Trumpovich indicted?

[Dr. Who]

So you paid the money to see it?

I don't think there is a paywall since I can see it. If you are using an adblocker, you can whitelist Wapo and see the article.

[Tahuyaman]

Oh, I just follow the facts. I'm a leftie...I don't hear voices in my head like the right wingers do. ;)
You haven’t ever shown that you have any kind of relationship with the facts since you’ve been here.

[zelmo1234]

I gave you facts. And continue to do so. Your ignoring them is no longer a tactic...it just reveals your willingness to support a traitor to our nation as Trump is.
But they said that there was NO connection between any American and these Russians?

But we know that Hillary sold out the state department to the Russians?

I don't under stand where you are getting your information.

[zelmo1234]

Gone along with the Russians in the Middle East, not signed the Russian sanctions into law for interfering with our elections.
We just killed a bunch of Russians in the middle east? Are you saying that Putin wanted them dead?

And the sanctions might go though now, we will have to see

[zelmo1234]

Yes ?

Give us an example how Trumpf will use the terms hoax, fake news and collusion now.

It is a Hoax that Exotix is trying to say that the Russians that were FB and tweeting about the elections have any ties back to Trump.

Just the opposite was announced today, and there is not ties to any American, so all this has been Faux News.

[zelmo1234]

It's not over yet. When the russians squeal, because they can see Trump is of no use to them, we'll see what is really going on with Trumper not signing the Russian sanctions nor releasing his tax returns for 12 years past.
How are you going to get them to squeal? Do you think they will come back to face these charges??

[Grokmaster]

And...WHERE WAS OBAMA DURING ALL OF THIS???

You know...the POTUS during ALL OF THIS activity by the Russians?


Oh yeah...being "more flexible" after selling helping Putin gain control of 20% of our uranium reserves.

[Tahuyaman]

But they said that there was NO connection between any American and these Russians?

But we know that Hillary sold out the state department to the Russians?

I don't under stand where you are getting your information.

He makes it up as he goes

[exotix]

It is a Hoax that Exotix is trying to say that the Russians that were FB and tweeting about the elections have any ties back to Trump.

Just the opposite was announced today, and there is not ties to any American, so all this has been Faux News.Intriguing that you cannot or will not acknowledge that Trump is the mastermind of a vast international conspiracy to destroy our Democracy ... our Republic ... and in fact, defend it ...

This is the next chapter .... how an entire American people can live with it.


I guess the German people did too upon the advent of the Nazi's.


Utterly sad.

[Tahuyaman]

How are you going to get them to squeal? Do you think they will come back to face these charges??

It funny that these partisan fools just can’t come to terms with the truth.

[MisterVeritis]

Go ahead and live in your dream. But now that the Russians are snagged, think they'll sing like Bannon did to Mueller about Trump's corruption in the elections?
What makes you think any Russians were snagged? I do not recall hearing that any of the Russians were in the US.

[Tahuyaman]

Intriguing that you cannot or will not acknowledge that Trump is the mastermind of a vast international conspiracy to destroy our Democracy ... our Republic ... and in fact, defend it ...

This is the next chapter .... how an entire American people can live with it.


I guess the German people did too upon the advent of the Nazi's.


Utterly sad.

Lol.

In one breath they call Trump a slobbering idiot and in the next breath he’s a mastermind of a secret international conspiracy.

[Ravens Fan]

Which is what they wanted their letter to say. The FISA was administered BEFORE the dossier was around. It was done on Carter Page in 2013 when he admitted being a Russian Agent. it was renewed THREE times, this last time with working with Trump was the third time.

http://time.com/5132126/carter-page-russia-2013-letter/

Makes you wonder why Trump would hire a guy who brags about being a Russian agent, doesn't it?

A couple things here. First, wouldn't it be illegal for Grassley and Graham to lie to the FBI? Not to mention on a federal document.

Second, do you have a source for your claims on the timeline of the FISA warrants? The link you provided did not address any other Fisa warrants.

Also, why did nothing ever come from the previous warrant(s)?

Regardless, FISA warrants stand on their own, as in the FBI cannot use any prior FISA warrants in arguing for a new one. This one, the one started in 2016 appears to be soley based on the dossier, as well as the 3 extensions to this warrant.

Your own link shows that he did not brag of being a "Russian agent", but rather an unofficial advisor for a G-20 summit.

[zelmo1234]

Y
Intriguing that you cannot or will not acknowledge that Trump is the mastermind of a vast international conspiracy to destroy our Democracy ... our Republic ... and in fact, defend it ...

This is the next chapter .... how an entire American people can live with it.


I guess the German people did too upon the advent of the Nazi's.


Utterly sad.
I thought that he was an idiot? That was not qualified to be President

Now he is a Master Mind? Which one is it?

So now lets say that he is the person

How did he cover this up, because it started before he was running for President, and They make it very clear today that this did not Go Back to Trump or Any American. So that seems to be a little hard to overcome?

[Grokmaster]

Ooops!! Some "collusion". Der...



"After the election, still striving to sow discord, Russians began staging political rallies both for and against President-elect Trump, sometimes on the same day", Mr. Rosenstein said.


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/16/us/politics/russians-indicted-mueller-election-interference.html

[Tahuyaman]

Sounds like the liberals think that idiot Trump is a pretty smart guy.

[zelmo1234]

I don't understand Liberals. We just had a President that over taxed over regulated, was caught on a mic telling the Russians he would be more flexible after the elections, had a secretary of state that made a deal for donations and sold of 20% of our uranium to the Russians, and constantly wrote laws using executive orders.

That is a Patriot.

But the Guy that is freeing people from the burden of taxations, Getting Tuff with our enemies and allies that want us to foot the bill, and it trying to do things as defined in the constitution?

Tyrant that wants to over throw the government?

What Fucking alternate reality are you all living in.

[Ravens Fan]

No, he went through the FBI and DOJ before releasing those memos and sources to Trumper..unlike Nunes and Trumper who just released classified information without FBI and DOJ reading it.
False.

Nunes went through the FBI and DOJ before sending his memo to the White House. They objected because they said it was incomplete, not based on what was in it.

It was Schiff who decided to send it to a committee vote as it was, without running it by the FBI and DOJ. the republicans went along and sent it on over to the White House, where the agencies read it and objected based on the inclusion of classified sources and methods.

[Grokmaster]

I don't understand Liberals. We just had a President that over taxed over regulated, was caught on a mic telling the Russians he would be more flexible after the elections, had a secretary of state that made a deal for donations and sold of 20% of our uranium to the Russians, and constantly wrote laws using executive orders.

That is a Patriot.

But the Guy that is freeing people from the burden of taxations, Getting Tuff with our enemies and allies that want us to foot the bill, and it trying to do things as defined in the constitution?

Tyrant that wants to over throw the government?

What $#@!ing alternate reality are you all living in.

It is the Leftbubble that surrounds Leftgoofyworld, populated by the Leftninny Doofi....

[zelmo1234]

It is the Leftbubble that surrounds Leftgoofyworld, populated by the Leftninny Doofi....
It is sad, If we know the people that we are building the house for are on the left. We add 20% to the price because you have to have lawyers document each and every change.

They are so dishonest, you just can't trust them. It is really sad.

[exotix]

Y
I thought that he was an idiot? That was not qualified to be President

Now he is a Master Mind? Which one is it?

So now lets say that he is the person

How did he cover this up, because it started before he was running for President, and They make it very clear today that this did not Go Back to Trump or Any American. So that seems to be a little hard to overcome?


Lol.

In one breath they call Trump a slobbering idiot and in the next breath he’s a mastermind of a secret international conspiracy.Hitler was a slobbering idiot with the same deranged mind as Trump.

Who began with attacking the Media.

[zelmo1234]

Hitler was a slobbering idiot with the same deranged mind as Trump.

Who began with attacking the Media.

Actually Hitler was a Socialist that Hated Jews,, Kind of like YOU.

I know that you have forgotten that NAZI's were national Socialists since yesterday

They certainly Would not be passing tax plans and giving back to the people.

[zelmo1234]

Now lets address attacking the Media in this country.

I am glad someone had finally decided to attack them. It is high time that Journalism makes a come back and we put and end to these Fantasy stories that are told on the Left and the Right.

These programs should be held accountable to the truth

[exotix]

Hate to break your hearts since you root against our democracy, but
"Rosenstein said there is no evidence in the indictment that any American was a knowing participant in the scheme, nor is there evidence that the scheme affected the outcome of the election."
Thanks for letting us know there were bots, dah!
No American's involved.


No, it doesn't. It is 13 Russians. There are unindicted co-conspirators.Yes ?

https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=cGyHWvC-MMTPzwLx7ZDABg&q=richard+pinedo&oq=Richard&gs_l=psy-ab.1.0.0i3k1j0l6j0i131k1j0l2.1706.3792.0.6817.8.7. 0.0.0.0.96.562.7.7.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..1.7.561.0...0.ST5AOUguDkA




http://res.cloudinary.com/luvckye9s/image/upload/v1518824771/10_gi6fzj.png


http://res.cloudinary.com/luvckye9s/image/upload/v1518824803/11_qeimyv.png

[Tahuyaman]

If the liberals were smart, they would be saying that Rosenstein comment that no Americans were in cahoots with the Russians clears The DNC and Clinton campaign.

[exotix]

Now lets address attacking the Media in this country.

I am glad someone had finally decided to attack them.

It is high time that Journalism makes a come back and we put and end to these Fantasy stories that are told on the Left and the Right.
These programs should be held accountable to the truthDid Trumpf ever attack Faux Noize ?

[Tahuyaman]

Hitler was a slobbering idiot with the same deranged mind as Trump.

Who began with attacking the Media.
If you were smart, you would use your idiotic rambling here to build a resumé. You might be able to get your own show on MSNBC.

[stjames1_53]

If you were smart, you would use your idiotic rambling here to build a resumé. You might be able to get your own show on MSNBC.

well, exo has created new sci-fi................
but they have yet to connect the dots from ten years ago until current events...maybe because there are none....rest assured, exo will post some more sci-fi nonsense and connect the dots from ten years ago with even more humor and wild rantings

[exotix]

If you were smart, you would use your idiotic rambling here to build a resumé. You might be able to get your own show on MSNBC.You should give up with your alternative facts, alternative mindset and alternative existence ... and the only ones who agree with you are the same people who exist the same as such ...


Ever notice that ?

[stjames1_53]

Did Trumpf ever attack Faux Noize ?

we are all aware of your dyslexia issues... your kayboard aslo keeps jubping on you.
You should get someone to preview your post and correct your spelling, please

[Tahuyaman]

If you were smart, you would use your idiotic rambling here to build a resumé. You might be able to get your own show on MSNBC.


You should give up with your alternative facts, alternative mindset and alternative existence ... and the only ones who agree with you are the same people who exist the same as such ...


Ever notice that ?

what alternate facts? I was giving you some career advice.

[Common]

Desperate special council under pressure to come up with something right before the midterms. Nothing in the indictment about Trump, his campaign or any Republicans nor did it change the outcome of the election.


A federal grand jury issued indictments Friday for 13 Russian nationals and three Russian companies suspected of interfering in the 2016 election, the special counsel’s office announced.
According to the indictment, signed by Special Counsel Robert Mueller, the Russian nationals began conspiring as early as 2014 to interfere “with the U.S. political and electoral processes, including the presidential election of 2016.”
Part of the scheme involved defendants posing as Americans and communicating “with unwitting individuals associated with the Trump campaign and with other political activists to seek to coordinate political activities.”
In a press briefing held shortly after the indictment was announced, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein said that there was no allegation in the indictment that “any American” — including members of the Trump campaign — “was a knowing participant in the alleged unlawful activity.”
Rosenstein also said that “there is no allegation in the indictment that the charged conduct altered the outcome of the 2016 election.

http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/16/mueller-indicts-13-russians/

[Tahuyaman]

What makes you think any Russians were snagged? I do not recall hearing that any of the Russians were in the US.they weren’t snagged. They are in Russia.

[Common]

The indictment has nothing to do with Trump, his campaign any republicans nor did it change the results of the last election.

Clearly a special council who had to come up with anything to save face before the midterms. The democrats and the democorat main stream media will Twist and turn this into a wild conspiracy to try and help the democrats in the midterm


A federal grand jury issued indictments Friday for 13 Russian nationals and three Russian companies suspected of interfering in the 2016 election, the special counsel’s office announced.
According to the indictment, signed by Special Counsel Robert Mueller, the Russian nationals began conspiring as early as 2014 to interfere “with the U.S. political and electoral processes, including the presidential election of 2016.”
Part of the scheme involved defendants posing as Americans and communicating “with unwitting individuals associated with the Trump campaign and with other political activists to seek to coordinate political activities.”
In a press briefing held shortly after the indictment was announced, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein said that there was no allegation in the indictment that “any American” — including members of the Trump campaign — “was a knowing participant in the alleged unlawful activity.”
Rosenstein also said that “there is no allegation in the indictment that the charged conduct altered the outcome of the 2016 election.

http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/16/mueller-indicts-13-russians/

[exotix]

what alternate facts? I was giving you some career advice.Are you capable of comprehending that indictments especially Grand Jury indictments are criminal charges that can be proved beyond reasonable doubt ?

[Tahuyaman]

In a press briefing held shortly after the indictment was announced, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein said that there was no allegation in the indictment that “any American” — including members of the Trump campaign — “was a knowing participant in the alleged unlawful activity.”
I just heard a host on MSNBC say that comment by Rosenstein proves that Trump colluded with the Russians to impact the election. That guy might be mentally ill.

[MisterVeritis]

Are you capable of comprehending that indictments especially Grand Jury indictments are criminal charges that can be proved beyond reasonable doubt ?
This is untrue.

And learn how to use punctuation.

[Tahuyaman]

well, exo has created new sci-fi................
but they have yet to connect the dots from ten years ago until current events...maybe because there are none....rest assured, exo will post some more sci-fi nonsense and connect the dots from ten years ago with even more humor and wild rantings
MENBC viewers don’t care about factually connecting the dots. They preach to the asylum choir.

[Tahuyaman]

Are you capable of comprehending that indictments especially Grand Jury indictments are criminal charges that can be proved beyond reasonable doubt ?

OK. What’s your point? Where are you going with that?

Grand jury indictments are not guilty verdicts. Many people are found not guilty at trial.