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Ethereal
02-19-2018, 05:18 PM
It's no secret that the vast majority of gun crime in America happens within cities governed by Democrats: Chicago, Detroit, Los Angeles, Houston, New Orleans, Atlanta, Washington DC, etc.

Suburban and rural America, by comparison, have extremely low rates of gun crime despite having relatively relaxed gun laws.

Naturally, when gun control discussions come up, Democrats do everything they can to avoid this inconvenient truth. But they cannot avoid it, because it is such a glaring hole in their argument.

How do they explain this away?

Thoughts?

Common Sense
02-19-2018, 05:27 PM
About 2/3 of US cities are run by Dems. Built up urban areas are more prone to crime.

The idea that crime is due to Dem policies is debatable. Many cities run by Dems aren't crime ridden.

Cities have seen drastic drops in crime rates since the 70's. The very same cities run by Dems.

Crime is still an issue of course. Drugs, the war on them, gangs, poverty and cycles of violence all play a role. Some would argue that Dem policies create dependency and contribute to crime rates. There may be some truth to it, but it's not the primary cause.

zelmo1234
02-19-2018, 05:30 PM
Well I think that one only needs to look at the way that the govern.

First look at the K - 12 educational system in these areas. Schools are not even safe to attend and the quality of education is not only way below acceptable, add social promotion and children are promoted until time of graduation for doing nothing, and then cast into a world with no skills.

Next there are all high taxations cities, and this means that there is very little economic growth, and even if there is, the people that live in these areas are not qualified to fill them

Then you have the relationship with the police. Mayors in these areas are looking to take a stand against the local police and they know it. This means that they are not going to put themselves at risk of a political vendetta that they had nothing to do with. Because of this stance the people don't trust the police and the police don't trust the people.

Drug abuse and Gangs. Lets face it, weather you believe or not, the statement an idle mind is the devils workshop rings true. What else is there in many of these areas, so they get high or drunk have sex, and now we have parents with no means to take care of a new family. Poverty.

Once you have these families on the Welfare system, The way that it has been set up by democrats, it is designed to keep them on that system with no hope and no money.

Revolutions around the world have been started with oppressed people, it is not surprising that they turn to violence.

They have no hope.

Common Sense
02-19-2018, 05:30 PM
As to access to guns...local laws don't prevent people from getting in cars and driving an hour.

Ethereal
02-19-2018, 05:31 PM
About 2/3 of US cities are run by Dems.

The idea that crime is due to Dem policies is debatable. Many cities run by Dems aren't crime ridden.

Cities have seen drastic drops in crime rates since the 70's. The very same cities run by Dems.

Crime is still an issue of course. Drugs, the war on them, gangs, poverty and cycles of violence all play a role. Some would argue that Dem policies create dependency and contribute to crime rates. There may be some truth to it, but it's not the primary cause.

The entire country has seen drastic drops in crime rates. Yet the cities with the worst crime rates are all cities governed by Democrats. Clearly there is a relationship between the political policies of Democrats and the crime rates in their cities.

What is the primary cause, in your opinion?

Ethereal
02-19-2018, 05:32 PM
As to access to guns...local laws don't prevent people from getting in cars and driving an hour.

Except the places they drive to don't have nearly the same rate of gun crime as the places they came from.

Why?

Common Sense
02-19-2018, 05:35 PM
Well I think that one only needs to look at the way that the govern.

First look at the K - 12 educational system in these areas. Schools are not even safe to attend and the quality of education is not only way below acceptable, add social promotion and children are promoted until time of graduation for doing nothing, and then cast into a world with no skills.

Next there are all high taxations cities, and this means that there is very little economic growth, and even if there is, the people that live in these areas are not qualified to fill them

Then you have the relationship with the police. Mayors in these areas are looking to take a stand against the local police and they know it. This means that they are not going to put themselves at risk of a political vendetta that they had nothing to do with. Because of this stance the people don't trust the police and the police don't trust the people.

Drug abuse and Gangs. Lets face it, weather you believe or not, the statement an idle mind is the devils workshop rings true. What else is there in many of these areas, so they get high or drunk have sex, and now we have parents with no means to take care of a new family. Poverty.

Once you have these families on the Welfare system, The way that it has been set up by democrats, it is designed to keep them on that system with no hope and no money.

Revolutions around the world have been started with oppressed people, it is not surprising that they turn to violence.

They have no hope.
Yet American cities are responsible for the majority of the economic output.

The vast majority of those who live in cities are not criminals and those who attend public schools do go on to higher education and employment.

The majority of Americans live in urban areas. The way some describe cities, you'd think they'd never been to one.

They may may not be for everyone, but they are far from the hellholes some describe. I guess hyperbole sells.

Common Sense
02-19-2018, 05:35 PM
Except the places they drive to don't have nearly the same rate of gun crime as the places they came from.

Why?

They aren't built up urban areas.

Ethereal
02-19-2018, 05:39 PM
They aren't built up urban areas.

So people shoot each other because they lived in "built up urban areas"?

zelmo1234
02-19-2018, 05:40 PM
Yet American cities are responsible for the majority of the economic output.

The vast majority of those who live in cities are not criminals and those who attend public schools do go on to higher education and employment.

The majority of Americans live in urban areas. The way some describe cities, you'd think they'd never been to one.

They may may not be for everyone, but they are far from the hellholes some describe. I guess hyperbole sells.
So actually there are a lot of things that are wrong with your statements but it may be very different in Canada.

First most of the inner city schools have a graduation rate near or below 50%

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/big-cities-battle-dismal-graduation-rates/

Yes Urban areas, but not the city themselves have these jobs, but they are not filled by the people that live there. Have you ever been in a traffic jam at 8 in the morning or 5 in the afternoon? Why is that ?

In the USA we have the birth of bedroom communities where people can have better schools and safety and still work in the unban areas

Common Sense
02-19-2018, 05:41 PM
The entire country has seen drastic drops in crime rates. Yet the cities with the worst crime rates are all cities governed by Democrats. Clearly there is a relationship between the political policies of Democrats and the crime rates in their cities.

What is the primary cause, in your opinion?

That so called relationship is just an assumption. Correlation does not equal causation.

It could also be that urban areas, with or without crime, don't elect republicans because they don't share their values.

Ethereal
02-19-2018, 05:41 PM
Yet American cities are responsible for the majority of the economic output.

The vast majority of those who live in cities are not criminals and those who attend public schools do go on to higher education and employment.

The majority of Americans live in urban areas. The way some describe cities, you'd think they'd never been to one.

They may may not be for everyone, but they are far from the hellholes some describe. I guess hyperbole sells.
To be fair, most of the economic output of cities is fairly prurient.

NYC, for example, is home to Wall Street, which produces a gigantic amount of nominal or paper wealth. Can't exactly eat stocks and bonds, and you cannot heat your home with them.

The vast majority of tangible wealth comes from outside cities: Food, energy, logging, etc.

Cities are giant centers of consumption.

Ethereal
02-19-2018, 05:44 PM
That so called relationship is just an assumption. Correlation does not equal causation.

It could also be that urban areas, with or without crime, don't elect republicans because they don't share their values.

True, it could be a big coincidence that all the most crime-ridden areas of America are governed by Democrats and have been for decades. It could be that Democrat governance has nothing to do with the poor social outcomes in the cities they govern, even though the entire point of governance is to mold and shape social outcomes.

Common Sense
02-19-2018, 05:45 PM
So people shoot each other because they lived in "built up urban areas"?

There are certainly more opportunities for crime and more competition in the drug trade. Gangs are an element in urban areas and not really prevalent in rural areas.

Historically crime has always been more prevalent in cities.

Ethereal
02-19-2018, 05:49 PM
There are certainly more opportunities for crime and more competition in the drug trade. Gangs are an element in urban areas and not really prevalent in rural areas.

Historically crime has always been more prevalent in cities.
People who live in the suburbs have plenty of opportunities to commit crimes. So why don't they?

Why are violent gangs so prevalent in urban areas? It's not like there aren't drug dealers out in the suburbs.

Common Sense
02-19-2018, 05:50 PM
True, it could be a big coincidence that all the most crime-ridden areas of America are governed by Democrats and have been for decades. It could be that Democrat governance has nothing to do with the poor social outcomes in the cities they govern, even though the entire point of governance is to mold and shape social outcomes.

That's a bit of a fallacy. Chicago is a large city with high murder numbers, but there are many other cities with higher murder rates. Some are even led by Republicans.

Littlerock has a higher homicide rate than Chicago, but it's rarely mentioned.

Tahuyaman
02-19-2018, 05:50 PM
That so called relationship is just an assumption. Correlation does not equal causation.

It could also be that urban areas, with or without crime, don't elect republicans because they don't share their values.
Those urban areas are heavily populated by members of the dependent class. Generations have grown up dependent upon government. They are conditioned to vote for people who support maintaining that dependence. Then throw in the total breakdown of the two parent family unit and you have a huge problem.

MMC
02-19-2018, 05:56 PM
Well some think its due to all the corruption that the Demos are into. Take Chicago the City that has the most gangbangers in it. Over 100k not counting the 50-60k in the suburbs. Out numbering the police force 5-1. That's a lot of crime to cover.

Then take a look at how the Demos use those bangers to get out the vote for them.


Which none of that counts the Mob, the Syndicate, Cosa Nostra, or the Mexican Mafia. Even more crime going on.


Then there is the matter of the Demos being deviates. Counts for much of the reason why.


Not a lot of dens of iniquity out in the rural areas.

MMC
02-19-2018, 05:58 PM
That's a bit of a fallacy. Chicago is a large city with high murder numbers, but there are many other cities with higher murder rates. Some are even led by Republicans.

Littlerock has a higher homicide rate than Chicago, but it's rarely mentioned.

Yet Lil Rock doesn't have as many shootings as Chicago does. Nobody said the bangers know how to shoot to kill.

Common Sense
02-19-2018, 06:00 PM
Those urban areas are heavily populated by members of the dependent class. Generations have grown up dependent upon government. They are conditioned to vote for people who support maintaining that dependence. Then throw in the total breakdown of the two parent family unit and you have a huge problem.

Like I said, dependency does play a role, but much of that meme is a myth.

Poverty is cyclical and welfare does play a role. However, in the past, before social assistance, crime rates were much higher.

The family unit has not seen a total breakdown, but it has been eroded. That certainly plays a large role.

The breakdown of the family unit is complicated. One factor is the fact that the US has the worlds largest prison populations. The effect has been fatherless children who in turn makes their fathers mistakes.

There is no one cause or one solution. I just find it a bit simplistic to blame the Dem boogeyman.

Like I said, Republican cities like Little Rock, have higher homicide rates than Chicago...but you don't see me claiming Republicans are responsible.

MrMike
02-19-2018, 06:00 PM
About 2/3 of US cities are run by Dems. Built up urban areas are more prone to crime.

The idea that crime is due to Dem policies is debatable. Many cities run by Dems aren't crime ridden.

Cities have seen drastic drops in crime rates since the 70's. The very same cities run by Dems.

Crime is still an issue of course. Drugs, the war on them, gangs, poverty and cycles of violence all play a role. Some would argue that Dem policies create dependency and contribute to crime rates. There may be some truth to it, but it's not the primary cause.

Curious: Which major cities managed by Dem's make that list?

Common Sense
02-19-2018, 06:01 PM
Yet Lil Rock doesn't have as many shootings as Chicago does. Nobody said the bangers know how to shoot to kill.

Doesn't have as many? Of course, it's far smaller.

It does however have a higher homicide rate.

Should we blame Republican policies for Little Rock's high murder rate?

Common Sense
02-19-2018, 06:04 PM
Well some think its due to all the corruption that the Demos are into. Take Chicago the City that has the most gangbangers in it. Over 100k not counting the 50-60k in the suburbs. Out numbering the police force 5-1. That's a lot of crime to cover.

Then take a look at how the Demos use those bangers to get out the vote for them.


Which none of that counts the Mob, the Syndicate, Cosa Nostra, or the Mexican Mafia. Even more crime going on.


Then there is the matter of the Demos being deviates. Counts for much of the reason why.


Not a lot of dens of iniquity out in the rural areas.
Sorry, but it's hard to take hyperbole like that seriously.

MMC
02-19-2018, 06:08 PM
Like I said, dependency does play a role, but much of that meme is a myth.

Poverty is cyclical and welfare does play a role. However, in the past, before social assistance, crime rates were much higher.

The family unit has not seen a total breakdown, but it has been eroded. That certainly plays a large role.

The breakdown of the family unit is complicated. One factor is the fact that the US has the worlds largest prison populations. The effect has been fatherless children who in turn makes their fathers mistakes.

There is no one cause or one solution. I just find it a bit simplistic to blame the Dem boogeyman.

Like I said, Republican cities like Little Rock, have higher homicide rates than Chicago...but you don't see me claiming Republicans are responsible.

How is Little rock ran by Republicans.....their Mayor is a Democrat and the City legislature is mostly Democrats.

zelmo1234
02-19-2018, 06:08 PM
UOTE=Common Sense;2292250]Doesn't have as many? Of course, it's far smaller.It does however have a higher homicide rate.

Should we blame Republican policies for Little Rock's high murder rate?[/QUOTE]

I went in to see how long the GOP has been in control of Little Rock They do not list the political party by the mayors names I found that interesting

MMC
02-19-2018, 06:10 PM
Sorry, but it's hard to take hyperbole like that seriously.

I know truth hurts leftists. But if you did some homework you would know the Demos in Chicago use the bangers to get their vote out.

Of course one party rule for 60-70 years kind of puts that into perspective.

Tahuyaman
02-19-2018, 06:10 PM
The family unit has not seen a total breakdown... It has in many of our inner cities. In one particular demographic 70% of the households do not have a father in the home. Within that demographic it is a total breakdown and that’s where the problem exists.

MMC
02-19-2018, 06:14 PM
UOTE=Common Sense;2292250]Doesn't have as many? Of course, it's far smaller.It does however have a higher homicide rate.

Should we blame Republican policies for Little Rock's high murder rate?

I went in to see how long the GOP has been in control of Little Rock They do not list the political party by the mayors names I found that interesting[/QUOTE]



Mayor of Little Rock, Arkansas (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mayors_of_Little_Rock,_Arkansas)


Incumbent (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incumbent)






Political party
Democratic (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_(United_States))



Mark Stodola is an American (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) politician (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politician) and lawyer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawyer). First elected in 2006, he has served as the Mayor of Little Rock, Arkansas (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Rock,_Arkansas), since January 2007. Stodola won re-election to a second, four-year term in November 2010 by a landslide 84.73 percent of the vote.[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Stodola#cite_note-uscm-1) His re-election in 2014 was unopposed



Hmmm just how does a Demo Mayor get to stay in Office unopposed?

Common
02-19-2018, 06:14 PM
Yet American cities are responsible for the majority of the economic output.

The vast majority of those who live in cities are not criminals and those who attend public schools do go on to higher education and employment.

The majority of Americans live in urban areas. The way some describe cities, you'd think they'd never been to one.

They may may not be for everyone, but they are far from the hellholes some describe. I guess hyperbole sells.

You cant make off the cuff claims without some verification, show us that american cities are responsible for the economic output.

The major cities are most certainly hellholes compared to suburban and rural america.
You cannot be a female and walk anywhere in NYC, Detroit, Philly, La, Chi and Cinnci and Memphis and ever feel totally confident and unafraid, if you do you will be prey. You dont know what you are talking about, I have to ask have you ever lived in one of the Major american cities for over 3 yrs ?

Remember this, most american cities are not ALL CITY, within the city limits its call the city but there are suburban areas with in Philly and LA and other Major cities. NYC has 5 boroughs.
The core of crime is centered. right within the inner city lines and it spreads like cancer from there out.

There are many different crimes and different types, when you talk about crime theres major crime, special victims crimes and vice etc.

Theres robbery, theres assault, theres felony assault, theres gambling, theres organized crime, there drug crime, dealer and user, there are so many categories of crime its boggling.
When they say crime went down thats an over all statement, when you break it down to categories it demonstrates a tottally different picture.

Heres where you should pay attention, CRIME RATES ARE BULLSHIT!!! why? because they are only as good as the police dept reporting them. There is a myriad of reasons why they lie when reporting.

THe commissioner via the Mayor wants crime downplayed hes running for re election. Fed Grants are based on crime rate so to get the money they adjust the crime rate accordingly. Most notably they have to show results <downward trend> to keep getting the grant year after year, like safe streets etc.

Anyone that takes the FBI crime statistics as gospel is a fool, Politically there is great pressure on police depts to downplay certain categories of crime, like illegal immigrant crime. White on black crime etc.

Coming from me this will be considered purely political.
Democrats totally suck at controlling crime because their voter base do not want strict policing and they want to see the police dicked instead and thats what democrats do for VOTES they couldnt give a fuck less like Rahm Emmanuel if half the city kills itself as long as he gets re elected

Tahuyaman
02-19-2018, 06:16 PM
Doesn't have as many? Of course, it's far smaller.

It does however have a higher homicide rate.

Should we blame Republican policies for Little Rock's high murder rate?

And I would be willing to bet that there's a common denominator in who is committing those murders and the types of neighborhoods in Little Rock as compared to Chicago.

MMC
02-19-2018, 06:19 PM
And I would be willing to bet that there's a common denominator in the who is committing those murders in Little Rock as compared to Chicago.

Well we found out the common denominator as to who runs the city of Little Rock Arkansas. Seems its not Republican. Imagine that!

Tahuyaman
02-19-2018, 06:19 PM
How is Little rock ran by Republicans.....their Mayor is a Democrat and the City legislature is mostly Democrats.

Is that a fact?

Common Sense
02-19-2018, 06:19 PM
You cant make off the cuff claims without some verification, show us that american cities are responsible for the economic output.

The major cities are most certainly hellholes compared to suburban and rural america.
You cannot be a female and walk anywhere in NYC, Detroit, Philly, La, Chi and Cinnci and Memphis and ever feel totally confident and unafraid, if you do you will be prey. You dont know what you are talking about, I have to ask have you ever lived in one of the Major american cities for over 3 yrs ?

Remember this, most american cities are not ALL CITY, within the city limits its call the city but there are suburban areas with in Philly and LA and other Major cities. NYC has 5 boroughs.
The core of crime is centered. right within the inner city lines and it spreads like cancer from there out.

There are many different crimes and different types, when you talk about crime theres major crime, special victims crimes and vice etc.

Theres robbery, theres assault, theres felony assault, theres gambling, theres organized crime, there drug crime, dealer and user, there are so many categories of crime its boggling.
When they say crime went down thats an over all statement, when you break it down to categories it demonstrates a tottally different picture.

Heres where you should pay attention, CRIME RATES ARE BULLSHIT!!! why? because they are only as good as the police dept reporting them. There is a myriad of reasons why they lie when reporting.

THe commissioner via the Mayor wants crime downplayed hes running for re election. Fed Grants are based on crime rate so to get the money they adjust the crime rate accordingly. Most notably they have to show results <downward trend> to keep getting the grant year after year, like safe streets etc.

Anyone that takes the FBI crime statistics as gospel is a fool, Politically there is great pressure on police depts to downplay certain categories of crime, like illegal immigrant crime. White on black crime etc.

Coming from me this will be considered purely political.
Democrats totally suck at controlling crime because their voter base do not want strict policing and they want to see the police dicked instead and thats what democrats do for VOTES they couldnt give a fuck less like Rahm Emmanuel if half the city kills itself as long as he gets re elected

I apologize for not replying point by point. I'll try to later...

but have you you ever been to New York? I've spent a lot of time there and my wife has gone for work a lot. I always feel safe.

Tahuyaman
02-19-2018, 06:21 PM
Well we found out the common denominator as to who runs the city of Little Rock Arkansas. Seems its not Republican. Imagine that!

The common denominators are fatherless homes and generation after generation stuck in the dependent class. That is by design.

MMC
02-19-2018, 06:22 PM
Is that a fact?

Yep, the Demos Mayor's term isn't up until 2018.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Stodola

Common Sense
02-19-2018, 06:25 PM
Is that a fact?
They are represented by republicans in congress.

I admit that's not the same. My mistake. I misread a link.

MMC
02-19-2018, 06:29 PM
The common denominators are fatherless homes and generation after generation stuck in the dependent class. That is by design.

Lil Rock has a gang problem. Hence their uptick in violent crime, property damage oh and murders. Oh and yes fatherless homes, breakdown of communities etc etc.

But they aren't even close to the amount of shootings Chicago has. Also the Chicago Police force is corrupt. A lot of uhm serious crimes aren't even reported by police.

MMC
02-19-2018, 06:47 PM
Do you think that Demos and their mentality that rules, protocols, and laws don't apply to them has something to do with why their cities are so crime laden?

Tahuyaman
02-19-2018, 06:49 PM
Lil Rock has a gang problem. Hence their uptick in violent crime, property damage oh and murders. Oh and yes fatherless homes, breakdown of communities etc etc.

But they aren't even close to the amount of shootings Chicago has. Also the Chicago Police force is corrupt. A lot of uhm serious crimes aren't even reported by police.


And again, I would say that the gang problem in our inner cities is mostly due to boys growing up in fatherless homes. Growing up, boys need guidance and role models. If they don't get that in the home, they are vulnerable to finding it in bad places.

Tahuyaman
02-19-2018, 06:56 PM
They are represented by republicans in congress.

I admit that's not the same. My mistake. I misread a link.


So then are you backing off on your position that Little Rock's problem is the fault of Republicans?

Mister D
02-19-2018, 06:58 PM
As to access to guns...local laws don't prevent people from getting in cars and driving an hour.
Actually, they do. Please educate yourselves.

Mister D
02-19-2018, 07:00 PM
Except the places they drive to don't have nearly the same rate of gun crime as the places they came from.

Why?
He doesn't understand that you are subject to the laws of your state pf residence.

Mister D
02-19-2018, 08:03 PM
It's no secret that the vast majority of gun crime in America happens within cities governed by Democrats: Chicago, Detroit, Los Angeles, Houston, New Orleans, Atlanta, Washington DC, etc.

Suburban and rural America, by comparison, have extremely low rates of gun crime despite having relatively relaxed gun laws.

Naturally, when gun control discussions come up, Democrats do everything they can to avoid this inconvenient truth. But they cannot avoid it, because it is such a glaring hole in their argument.

How do they explain this away?

Thoughts?
They don't and that's one of several reasons why I don't take progressives seriously on this issue. You cannot combat gun violence by ignoring where and especially among whom most of it occurs but they do exactly that and we all know why.

hanger4
02-19-2018, 08:05 PM
Doesn't have as many? Of course, it's far smaller.It does however have a higher homicide rate. Should we blame Republican policies for Little Rock's high murder rate?*It does however have a higher homicide rate.* ................ The numbers I found don't substantiate that claim, close but not so. Little Rock Arkansas 21.1 per 100K and Chicago Illinois 28.1 per 100K ............ https://www.google.com/amp/s/247wallst.com/special-report/2017/11/13/americas-25-murder-capitals-2/amp/

Ethereal
02-19-2018, 10:38 PM
That's a bit of a fallacy. Chicago is a large city with high murder numbers, but there are many other cities with higher murder rates. Some are even led by Republicans.

Littlerock has a higher homicide rate than Chicago, but it's rarely mentioned.
Little Rock is a Democrat bastion inside a Republican state.

Ethereal
02-19-2018, 10:43 PM
I apologize for not replying point by point. I'll try to later...

but have you you ever been to New York? I've spent a lot of time there and my wife has gone for work a lot. I always feel safe.

That's because you never go to the ghetto.

Ethereal
02-20-2018, 01:20 AM
At least Common Sense tried.

The rest of the liberals are in hiding.

MMC
02-20-2018, 07:22 AM
At least Common Sense tried.

The rest of the liberals are in hiding.


Kind of hard for them to talk about trailer parks in the city, huh?

Tahuyaman
02-20-2018, 11:51 AM
Little Rock is a Democrat bastion inside a Republican state.


Isn't that the way is in several Republican states? Even many of the states which are solidly blue have one or two big cities and Democrats overwhelming dominate those.


Their state legislatures are often more evenly split.

gamewell45
02-20-2018, 11:54 AM
That's because you never go to the ghetto.

Every state has a city that has a ghetto. Some rural areas have ghettos especially in the south and Appalachian mountain areas of the country.

Ethereal
02-20-2018, 12:12 PM
Every state has a city that has a ghetto. Some rural areas have ghettos especially in the south and Appalachian mountain areas of the country.
My point was that he only felt safe in NYC because he stayed away from the bad parts of town.

gamewell45
02-20-2018, 12:21 PM
My point was that he only felt safe in NYC because he stayed away from the bad parts of town.

You are correct; there are few places I'd never go to since I'm savvy enough to know they are not the safest neighborhoods to be in.

Tahuyaman
02-20-2018, 12:23 PM
I've felt safe in several big cities in the US and overseas. I would not have felt safe in those cities had I ventured a few blocks in the wrong direction.

MMC
02-20-2018, 01:38 PM
You are correct; there are few places I'd never go to since I'm savvy enough to know they are not the safest neighborhoods to be in.

Cmon GW.....throw on a hoodie and I'll give ya a tour of the South Side. :wink:

Captdon
02-20-2018, 01:45 PM
They aren't built up urban areas.

This is hilarious.

Captdon
02-20-2018, 01:46 PM
That so called relationship is just an assumption. Correlation does not equal causation.

It could also be that urban areas, with or without crime, don't elect republicans because they don't share their values.

You mean like obeying the law?
What values do the Dems have that make crime so popular in the cities.

Captdon
02-20-2018, 01:49 PM
Doesn't have as many? Of course, it's far smaller.

It does however have a higher homicide rate.

Should we blame Republican policies for Little Rock's high murder rate?https://www.gannett-cdn.com/media/2018/02/05/USATODAY/USATODAY/636534390142903417-020318-homicides.png

Captdon
02-20-2018, 01:54 PM
Every state has a city that has a ghetto. Some rural areas have ghettos especially in the south and Appalachian mountain areas of the country.

No one shoot you there either. The crime rate in the Appalachians is lower than any Dem run city.

gamewell45
02-20-2018, 05:05 PM
Cmon GW.....throw on a hoodie and I'll give ya a tour of the South Side. :wink:


Can i wear my Chicago Bulls jersey, my oversized Ben Davis pants and nikes?

Mister D
02-20-2018, 06:31 PM
My point was that he only felt safe in NYC because he stayed away from the bad parts of town.
He confuses NYC with Times Square.

MMC
02-21-2018, 07:41 AM
Can i wear my Chicago Bulls jersey, my oversized Ben Davis pants and nikes?

Only if you let the pants hang down past your butt. :laugh:

gamewell45
02-21-2018, 08:36 AM
Can i wear my Chicago Bulls jersey, my oversized Ben Davis pants and nikes?
Jesus, what a sight that would be. :)

exotix
02-21-2018, 10:08 AM
It's no secret that the vast majority of gun crime in America happens within cities governed by Democrats: Chicago, Detroit, Los Angeles, Houston, New Orleans, Atlanta, Washington DC, etc.

Suburban and rural America, by comparison, have extremely low rates of gun crime despite having relatively relaxed gun laws.

Naturally, when gun control discussions come up, Democrats do everything they can to avoid this inconvenient truth. But they cannot avoid it, because it is such a glaring hole in their argument.

How do they explain this away?

Thoughts?Yes ... did the Texas Church Massacre happen in a Dem / Lib district ? ... how'bout all the the other gun-massacres ?

nathanbforrest45
02-21-2018, 10:11 AM
Yes ... did the Texas Church Massacre happen in a Dem / Lib district ? ... how'bout all the the other gun-massacres ?More people are shot on any given week end in Chicago then were shot in the Texas Church Massacre and the Florida School shooting combined.

hanger4
02-21-2018, 10:15 AM
Yes ... did the Texas Church Massacre happen in a Dem / Lib district ? ... how'bout all the the other gun-massacres ?You might be wise to invest in some reading comprehension continuing education courses. Just sayin

exotix
02-21-2018, 10:18 AM
More people are shot on any given week end in Chicago then were shot in the Texas Church Massacre and the Florida School shooting combined.

You might be wise to invest in some reading comprehension continuing education courses. Just sayinI was just wondering why Ethereal posts up 'Look over there at Crime-Ridden Cities are run by Dems/Libs' after every gun-massacre that's all.

hanger4
02-21-2018, 10:23 AM
I was just wondering why Ethereal posts up 'Look over there at Crime-Ridden Cities are run by Dems/Libs' after every gun-massacre that's all.No you weren't, you thought you had a gotcha point, but your lack of some basic reading skills gotcha you instead.

exotix
02-21-2018, 10:29 AM
No you weren't, you thought you had a gotcha point, but your lack of some basic reading skills gotcha you instead.Thanks for telling exotix what exotix thinks.

MMC
02-21-2018, 10:33 AM
I was just wondering why Ethereal posts up 'Look over there at Crime-Ridden Cities are run by Dems/Libs' after every gun-massacre that's all.

Well you shouldn't wander to long. He is only telling the truth and facts about your kind.

exotix
02-21-2018, 10:36 AM
Well you shouldn't wander to long. He is only telling the truth and facts about your kind.Well, actually @Common (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=659) is the resident purveyor of 'Dem/Lib Crime Ridden Cities' more than Ethereal as noted on post 29 ...

MMC
02-21-2018, 10:40 AM
Well, actually @Common (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=659) is the resident purveyor of 'Dem/Lib Crime Ridden Cities' more than Ethereal as noted on post 29 ...

Yet both tell the truth and facts about your kind. Is that what bothers you so? Truth hurts, huh?

hanger4
02-21-2018, 10:47 AM
Thanks for telling exotix what exotix thinks.Not a prob :thumbsup: :rofl:

nathanbforrest45
02-21-2018, 10:57 AM
Thanks for telling exotix what exotix thinks.

Well someone has to since he sure as hell doesn't know.

Captdon
02-21-2018, 11:02 AM
Well, actually @Common (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=659) is the resident purveyor of 'Dem/Lib Crime Ridden Cities' more than Ethereal as noted on post 29 ...

Talking to you is exactly like talking to a wall.

Common
02-21-2018, 11:11 AM
Well, actually @Common (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=659) is the resident purveyor of 'Dem/Lib Crime Ridden Cities' more than Ethereal as noted on post 29 ...
Prove me wrong, prove ethereal wrong, we both know more than you and are more honest