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gamewell45
02-24-2018, 11:44 PM
First off before we go any further, this is an opinion piece.

Now, that being said:

"The war of the memos has reached its Waterloo. The Nunes memo was released two weeks ago. The Democratic memo has now been released as well. The second memo shows no mercy to the first, destroying it with the heavy artillery of arguments loaded with logic and fired by facts.
When the Republican memo was released, the Justice Department — a department run, of course, by Trump appointees — issued an extraordinary statement, calling it a “reckless” act. The FBI, also run by a Trump-appointed director, warned that it had “grave concerns.” At issue was not only “sources and methods,” typically the most sensitive of intelligence matters, but the integrity of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) process as well.
FISA was enacted in 1979, following the surveillance and other abuses at the CIA and the FBI that came to light in the mid-1970s. The law created a system whereby surveillance itself could be surveilled by federal courts. To protect the rights of Americans, in order to surveil a target for counterintelligence purposes, the Justice Department had to follow rigorous procedures that were subject to judicial review. The law’s provisions are complex but one of its most important is the necessity of an application to court showing “probable cause” that the target of surveillance is a ”foreign power” or the “agent of a foreign power.”

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/democrats-blast-holes-nunes-memo-volley-facts-logic-article-1.3840471

The democrats are royally upset according to the article because it shows "distortions and misrepresentations" by the republicans themselves. As the midterm elections grow closer it'll be interesting to see how nasty things really get.

Tahuyaman
02-24-2018, 11:57 PM
The Democrats memo contradicts itself.

Crepitus
02-25-2018, 12:55 AM
The Democrats memo contradicts itself.

The republican memo outright lies.

Tahuyaman
02-25-2018, 01:01 AM
The republican memo outright lies.

It did not. It exposed lies by omission.

Ethereal
02-25-2018, 03:02 AM
It makes no difference.

The onus falls entirely on the crackpots asserting the "Russian collusion" narrative. Thus far, they have proven NOTHING that even comes close to such collusion. And they never will, because it is an obvious lie made up by the Clinton machine and their allies in government and media.

MMC
02-25-2018, 07:50 AM
To bad the Demos Memo can't refute the Grassley Memo which supports the Nunes memo.


The one argument that the Demos kept pushing was that they......repeat that, THEY (The Demos) thought Carter Page was a Russian agent. The reality is.....the FBI and the Some in the IC knew that to be not true. The real fact that debunks that crap from the Demos was the fact that Page was working with the FBI. To bad the lames in the Demo party couldn't figure that shit out. But once again, the Dimwits did not want to listen to anyone about their allegation being wrong. Showing once again the Demos cannot handle the truth.


Still the FBI should have came out and shown the Democrats were living in an alternate reality. Of course that would have destroyed any Credibility for the Democrats going forward and with any other issues. Which truthfully the FBI should have been alright with that. It would make their jobs easy going forward when dealing with Democrats. As then they could start with the Premise that Democrats are deviates and will lie.

MMC
02-25-2018, 08:02 AM
First off before we go any further, this is an opinion piece.

Now, that being said:

"The war of the memos has reached its Waterloo. The Nunes memo was released two weeks ago. The Democratic memo has now been released as well. The second memo shows no mercy to the first, destroying it with the heavy artillery of arguments loaded with logic and fired by facts.
When the Republican memo was released, the Justice Department — a department run, of course, by Trump appointees — issued an extraordinary statement, calling it a “reckless” act. The FBI, also run by a Trump-appointed director, warned that it had “grave concerns.” At issue was not only “sources and methods,” typically the most sensitive of intelligence matters, but the integrity of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) process as well.
FISA was enacted in 1979, following the surveillance and other abuses at the CIA and the FBI that came to light in the mid-1970s. The law created a system whereby surveillance itself could be surveilled by federal courts. To protect the rights of Americans, in order to surveil a target for counterintelligence purposes, the Justice Department had to follow rigorous procedures that were subject to judicial review. The law’s provisions are complex but one of its most important is the necessity of an application to court showing “probable cause” that the target of surveillance is a ”foreign power” or the “agent of a foreign power.”

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/democrats-blast-holes-nunes-memo-volley-facts-logic-article-1.3840471

The democrats are royally upset according to the article because it shows "distortions and misrepresentations" by the republicans themselves. As the midterm elections grow closer it'll be interesting to see how nasty things really get.








Correct an opinion piece put out by a Never Trumper.

BY Gabriel Schoenfeld (http://www.nydailynews.com/authors?author=Gabriel-Schoenfeld) Senior advisor to the Romney campaign. Op-ed contributor to a wide variety of leftist rags.


I wonder why he wont run to those Right leaning rags nor take on the Leftist Glenn Greenwald of the Intercept. Or the left's Constitutional attorney and Professor Jonathon Turley. Oh that's Right......as his ass would be humiliated.


Don't go away Mad Gabriel.....just go away. Far away. As you won't be advising people on the Right much anymore.

MMC
02-25-2018, 08:20 AM
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So much for Gabriel Schoenfeld and his uhm,erm credibility. :smiley_ROFLMAO: