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Taxcutter
12-13-2012, 10:21 AM
…that getting the benefits of being in a union without paying dues is bad but getting government benefits without paying income taxes is good?

Trinnity
12-13-2012, 10:23 AM
It's liberal hypocrisy on display. Logic and common sense have no place in that fantasy world. There is a breaking point at which the vast middle will rebel against this, but when?

Cigar
12-13-2012, 10:28 AM
…that getting the benefits of being in a union without paying dues is bad but getting government benefits without paying income taxes is good?

You want me to have the Boys Explain the difference it you?

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hanger4
12-13-2012, 10:31 AM
You want me to have the Boys Explain the difference it you?

http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4528721697439750&pid=1.7&w=107&h=154&c=7&rs=1

You probably better Cigar, cause you sure as hell don't know the difference.

Red Green
12-13-2012, 10:33 AM
I think the answer is we must "expand" the tax base so people are contributing rather than taking.

Taxcutter
12-14-2012, 11:26 AM
In both cases the money comes from coerced contributions.

patrickt
12-14-2012, 12:25 PM
I worked in two places with a union. One was a closed shop and when I started I had no problem with the union but after three months of threats, fines, coercion, and ridiculous rules I preferred getting fired over knuckling under to the thugs. The second was at the police department where I worked. I never joined the union and the union brought me, and other honest officers, no benefits. Pay got worse, health care got worse, everything got worse for good officers. The officers who were corrupt, brutal, lazy, cowardly, or simply incompetent benefited greatly from the union and they joined willingly. The others were forced and sadly, some weren't hard to force.

I had other benefits, though. I didn't have to follow stupid union rules, I didn't have to tolerate the corrupt, brutal, incompetent, or lazy, and I didn't have to feel ashamed of myself. The corrupt, brutal, incompetent, and lazy never feel ashamed of themselves because like liberals they have no sense of responsibility.

Peter1469
12-14-2012, 01:30 PM
Today, when the sweat shops are gone, this is what unions tend to do. Prop up the dead weight and hold back the stars.

patrickt
12-14-2012, 03:16 PM
Stars? For unions, being a thug and having seniority is all that counts. Fire the stars and keep the dead wood because the dead wood appreciates the union more knowing in a rational world they'd be unemployed.

KC
12-14-2012, 03:27 PM
Today, when the sweet shops are gone, this is what unions tend to do. Prop up the dead weight and hold back the stars.

There are still some pretty good sweet shops around here. Every once and a while I like to dip in for something baked.