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Grokmaster
03-05-2018, 08:46 PM
This, despite the fact that GUN OWNERSHIP, and CONCEALED CARRY have both grown EXPONENTIALLY since then.


More Leftmyth DESTROYED....



Rate Of U.S. Gun Violence Has Fallen Since 1993, Study Says


Since 1993, the United States has seen a drop in the rate of homicides and other violence involving guns, according to two new studies released Tuesday. Using government data, analysts saw a steep drop for violence in the 1990s, they saw more modest drops in crime rates since 2000.
"Firearm-related homicides dropped from 18,253 homicides in 1993 to 11,101 in 2011," according to a report by the federal Bureau of Justice Statistics (http://bjs.gov/content/pub/press/fv9311pr.cfm), "and nonfatal firearm crimes dropped from 1.5 million victimizations in 1993 to 467,300 in 2011.
There were seven gun homicides per 100,000 people in 1993, the Pew Research Center study (http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/05/07/gun-homicide-rate-down-49-since-1993-peak-public-unaware/) says, which dropped to 3.6 gun deaths in 2010. The study relied in part on data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm).
"Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49 percent lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation's population grew," according to the Pew study. "The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75 percent lower in 2011 than in 1993."


All of that is good news — but many Americans don't seem to be aware of it. In a survey, the Pew Research Center found that only 12 percent of Americans believe the gun crime rate is lower today than it was in 1993; 56 percent believe it's higher.


In an effort to explain that finding, the Pew researchers noted that while mass shootings are rare, they capture public interest and are often viewed as touchstone events that help define they year in which the crimes occur. As examples, they cite three shootings in the past two years, in Tucson, Ariz.; Aurora, Colo.; and in Newtown, Conn.
The U.S. gun crime rate peaked in the late 1980s and early 1990s, the Pew study says, ending years of growth in gun violence that began in the 1960s. But the rate of suicides committed using a firearm hasn't fallen as fast, they add, noting that 6 out of every 10 gun deaths in America stems from suicide.
"Looking at the larger topic of firearm deaths, there were 31,672 deaths from guns in the U.S. in 2010," according to the Pew Center study. "Most (19,392) were suicides; the gun suicide rate has been higher than the gun homicide rate since at least 1981, and the gap is wider than it was in 1981."
The study also analyzed the people who've lost their lives to gun violence.
In 2010, 84 percent of those killed were male; 69 percent were between the ages of 18 and 40. And 55 percent of gun homicides that year were black, the researchers found — far higher than their share of the population (13 percent).
The study also notes that while the number of gun homicides has dropped, the number of guns in America hasn't.
Noting that it isn't clear how many Americans have guns in their households, the Pew researchers found (http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/05/07/gun-homicide-rate-down-49-since-1993-peak-public-unaware/5/#chapter-5-context) that the "2009 per capita rate of one person per gun in the U.S. had roughly doubled since 1968."






https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2013/05/07/181998015/rate-of-u-s-gun-violence-has-fallen-since-1993-study-says

MisterVeritis
03-05-2018, 09:08 PM
I do not believe either gun ownership or concealed carry have grown exponentially since 1993.

Grokmaster
03-05-2018, 09:27 PM
I do not believe either gun ownership or concealed carry have grown exponentially since 1993.

22906


Annual IncreaseThe following figures show the average number of concealed carry permits issued per year.

240000
1999 - 2007
The statistics on concealed carry permits show slow growth from 2.7 million to 4.6 million between 1999 and 2007.

850000
2008 - 2011
Starting in 2008 growth began to accelerate. By 2011 the Government estimated that there was 8 million concealed carry permits.

1550000
2012 - 2013
In June 2014 the number of concealed carry permits had increased to 11.1 million.

1690000
2014 - new record
2016 saw the figure climb to over 14.5 million permits.

1730000
2016 - new record

MisterVeritis
03-05-2018, 09:29 PM
22906


Annual Increase

The following figures show the average number of concealed carry permits issued per year.

240000
1999 - 2007
The statistics on concealed carry permits show slow growth from 2.7 million to 4.6 million between 1999 and 2007.

850000
2008 - 2011
Starting in 2008 growth began to accelerate. By 2011 the Government estimated that there was 8 million concealed carry permits.

1550000
2012 - 2013
In June 2014 the number of concealed carry permits had increased to 11.1 million.

1690000
2014 - new record
2016 saw the figure climb to over 14.5 million permits.

1730000
2016 - new record

Your graph agrees with me. Thanks for posting it.

Grokmaster
03-05-2018, 09:31 PM
Your graph agrees with me. Thanks for posting it.
A 256% increase inn CCW permits since 2007 proves that they have not grown exponentially?


An increase of over 100 million guns from 1996 t0 2017 also disproves the massive increase in guns since then?


Mmmm...k....

MisterVeritis
03-05-2018, 09:33 PM
A 256% increase inn CCW permits since 2007 proves that they have not grown exponentially?

Ok....

Correct. Exponential growth has an actual meaning.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exponential_growth

Grokmaster
03-05-2018, 09:42 PM
Correct. Exponential growth has an actual meaning.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exponential_growth


More than one, apparently :


ex·po·nen·tial
ˌekspəˈnen(t)SH(ə)l/
adjective
adjective: exponential


1.
(of an increase) becoming more and more rapid.

Which is the case of BOTH the number of guns since the 1990's, AND concealed carry permits, both of which increased at greater rates annually, than the years before...increasing RAPIDLY from 2008 onward....in both cases.

MisterVeritis
03-05-2018, 10:06 PM
More than one, apparently :


ex·po·nen·tial
ˌekspəˈnen(t)SH(ə)l/
adjective
adjective: exponential

1.
(of an increase) becoming more and more rapid.

Which is the case of BOTH the number of guns since the 1990's, AND concealed carry permits, both of which increased at greater rates annually, than the years before...increasing RAPIDLY from 2008 onward....in both cases.

I suuppose of you want to use a definition arising from people using the term incorrectly that is your business.

Grokmaster
03-05-2018, 10:19 PM
I suuppose of you want to use a definition arising from people using the term incorrectly that is your business.
Choosing Wiki over Miriam Webster, is your business.


Guns and CCW have INCREASED, A LOT, as gun crime has fallen = The Point.

MisterVeritis
03-05-2018, 10:23 PM
Choosing Wiki over Miriam Webster, is your business.


Guns and CCW have INCREASED, A LOT, as gun crime has fallen = The Point.
Right. Exponential growth is another useful term rendered meaningless by people who meant something else. Gay used to mean something useful once, too.

Cannons Front
03-05-2018, 10:24 PM
Not taking sides her but according to webster:
very fast : increasingly rapid

and an example sentence "
The growth and development that he's made over the course of his career with us has been exponential
and has made a huge impact on our team."
Does not seem to have to match the mathematical equation.

MisterVeritis
03-05-2018, 10:25 PM
Not taking sides her but according to webster:
very fast : increasingly rapid

and an example sentence "
The growth and development that he's made over the course of his career with us has been
exponential
and has made a huge impact on our team."
Does not seem to have to match the mathematical equation.



Right. It is another once useful term reduced to meaninlessness.

Grokmaster
03-05-2018, 10:28 PM
Right. It is another once useful term reduced to meaninlessness.

I'll change it to the number of guns in the US , as well as CCW permits have risen "A LOT", even as gun crimes have CRATERED, in the interest of linguistic and mathematical purity.


There...we good now?

MisterVeritis
03-05-2018, 10:34 PM
I'll change it to the number of guns in the US , as well as CCW permits have risen "A LOT", even as gun crimes have CRATERED, in the interest of linguistic and mathematical purity.


There...we good now?
lol.