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RtWngaFraud
12-14-2012, 06:16 PM
To anyone who doubts that the US Government is capable of committing atrocities on innocent American children, look up what their plans were in Operation Northwoods.

I predicted during Obama's 1st term that if he were to get reelected, we would see the real right-wing Obama in his second term. The version of himself that he downplayed the first time around in order to not alienate himself from at least 50.1% of the voting public. I also predicted that he will push for gun restrictions during his second term. Much like the thinking behind Operation Northwoods, once the American public are afraid and horrified by certain events, they are more willing to go along with the Government's plans. It was opposition to Cuba back then, now it's opposition to gun ownership. Americans love their guns, so it would take a series of extremely nasty events in order to get the public on his side. This one today is, perhaps, one of the nastiest ever.

The right-wing attitude is that the ends justify the means. To the Government, 18 dead kindergarten children will be worth banning guns in our society. Is anyone willing to admit to something like that?

Chris
12-14-2012, 06:42 PM
Nice troll.

"right-wing Obama"

:smiley_ROFLMAO:

GrassrootsConservative
12-14-2012, 06:58 PM
The right-wing attitude is that the ends justify the means. To the Government, 18 dead kindergarten children will be worth banning guns in our society. Is anyone willing to admit to something like that?

Murder is banned, fool, and that didn't stop this man.

Please, do try and be logical. Wait you can't.

Shut the fuck up.

countryboy
12-14-2012, 07:03 PM
To anyone who doubts that the US Government is capable of committing atrocities on innocent American children, look up what their plans were in Operation Northwoods.

I predicted during Obama's 1st term that if he were to get reelected, we would see the real right-wing Obama in his second term. The version of himself that he downplayed the first time around in order to not alienate himself from at least 50.1% of the voting public. I also predicted that he will push for gun restrictions during his second term. Much like the thinking behind Operation Northwoods, once the American public are afraid and horrified by certain events, they are more willing to go along with the Government's plans. It was opposition to Cuba back then, now it's opposition to gun ownership. Americans love their guns, so it would take a series of extremely nasty events in order to get the public on his side. This one today is, perhaps, one of the nastiest ever.

The right-wing attitude is that the ends justify the means. To the Government, 18 dead kindergarten children will be worth banning guns in our society. Is anyone willing to admit to something like that?

How far to the left does one have to be to think gun grabbers are "right wing"?

Fucking troll.

KC
12-14-2012, 07:54 PM
To anyone who doubts that the US Government is capable of committing atrocities on innocent American children, look up what their plans were in Operation Northwoods.

I predicted during Obama's 1st term that if he were to get reelected, we would see the real right-wing Obama in his second term. The version of himself that he downplayed the first time around in order to not alienate himself from at least 50.1% of the voting public. I also predicted that he will push for gun restrictions during his second term. Much like the thinking behind Operation Northwoods, once the American public are afraid and horrified by certain events, they are more willing to go along with the Government's plans. It was opposition to Cuba back then, now it's opposition to gun ownership. Americans love their guns, so it would take a series of extremely nasty events in order to get the public on his side. This one today is, perhaps, one of the nastiest ever.

The right-wing attitude is that the ends justify the means. To the Government, 18 dead kindergarten children will be worth banning guns in our society. Is anyone willing to admit to something like that?

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Mister D
12-14-2012, 08:30 PM
No fucking way...is this really here?

GrumpyDog
12-14-2012, 08:31 PM
Hey, Rightwing (not fraud anymore heh?).

If the CIA was the instigator, you can bet it was at the behest of a CONSERVATIVE conspiracy of private interests. Just like JFK , MLK, RFK, and Malcolm X. assassinations.

Now if the "Billy the Kid" slayer here, gets vetted, it will probably be that he is made out to be a leftwing nut, much the same as the last two maniacs, Orange hair boy, and Bald freak, even though Bald freak was on drugs and reading Mein Kampf, and Communist Manifesto, both totaliarian systems rejected by modern progressive Democrats.

Would not surprise me at all, if Billy is another example of serial killer since statistics are 80% probability he comes from a Conservative values family, and Conservatives promote guns and use of guns as like toys, to be used first, rather than last, resort.

KC
12-14-2012, 08:32 PM
Hey, Rightwing (not fraud anymore heh?).

If the CIA was the instigator, you can bet it was at the behest of a CONSERVATIVE conspiracy of private interests. Just like JFK , MLK, RFK, and Malcolm X. assassinations.

Now if the "Billy the Kid" slayer here, gets vetted, it will probably be that he is made out to be a leftwing nut, much the same as the last two maniacs, Orange hair boy, and Bald freak, even though Bald freak was on drugs and reading Mein Kampf, and Communist Manifesto, both totaliarian systems rejected by modern progressive Democrats.

Would not surprise me at all, if Billy is another example of serial killer since statistics are 80% probability he comes from a Conservative values family, and Conservatives promote guns and use of guns as like toys, to be used first, rather than last, resort.

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Mister D
12-14-2012, 08:32 PM
Hey, Rightwing (not fraud anymore heh?).

If the CIA was the instigator, you can bet it was at the behest of a CONSERVATIVE conspiracy of private interests. Just like JFK , MLK, RFK, and Malcolm X. assassinations.

Now if the "Billy the Kid" slayer here, gets vetted, it will probably be that he is made out to be a leftwing nut, much the same as the last two maniacs, Orange hair boy, and Bald freak, even though Bald freak was on drugs and reading Mein Kampf, and Communist Manifesto, both totaliarian systems rejected by modern progressive Democrats.

Would not surprise me at all, if Billy is another example of serial killer since statistics are 80% probability he comes from a Conservative values family, and Conservatives promote guns and use of guns as like toys, to be used first, rather than last, resort.

Can you cite those stats for us?

bladimz
12-14-2012, 08:54 PM
These gunmen must have had created some kind of pact some time ago in which they would begin to decrease the school-age population across the country. Elementary school kids today, College students in a number of higher education facilities, and of course, the teens in Columbine. And these are just the ones that come to mind.

I can just bet that other countries are watching all this and thinking to themselves that they don't have to bother engaging us in battle. They can just sit back while we kill each other in the name of self-defense, by the hand of the psychologically unbalanced, road rage and any other number of stupid reasons. After all, if we are attacked from without, our military will jump into action, kick ass and do what they do. But if we attack each other from within, nothing happens. Nice deal.

Captain Obvious
12-14-2012, 09:22 PM
Normally I consider your threads with a chuckle over the nonsense, but posting this - today, is purely classless.

GrumpyDog
12-14-2012, 09:39 PM
poll finds eighty percent of serial killers vote republican - ScrapeTV (http://thepoliticalforums.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=80%20of%20serial%20killers%20vote%20republican&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CDYQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fscrapetv.com%2FNews%2FNews%2520Pa ges%2FPolitics%2Fpages-3%2FPoll-finds-eighty-percent-of-serial-killers-vote-Republican-Scrape-TV-The-World-on-your-side.html&ei=PuLLULynDNP_qAGWqoCwDQ&usg=AFQjCNF3BNwen0ipBLwJpO52jyU5DEJDow)scrapetv.co m/.../Poll-finds-eighty-percent-of-serial-killers-vote-Repu...Cached (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:zqeL23bf6PwJ:scrapetv.com/News/News%2520Pages/Politics/pages-3/Poll-finds-eighty-percent-of-serial-killers-vote-Republican-Scrape-TV-The-World-on-your-side.html+80+of+serial+killers+vote+republican&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us) - Similar (http://thepoliticalforums.com/search?hl=en&tbo=1&biw=1028&bih=705&q=related:scrapetv.com/News/News%2520Pages/Politics/pages-3/Poll-finds-eighty-percent-of-serial-killers-vote-Republican-Scrape-TV-The-World-on-your-side.html+80+of+serial+killers+vote+republican&sa=X&ei=PuLLULynDNP_qAGWqoCwDQ&ved=0CDgQHzAB)
You +1'd this publicly. Undo (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#)
Mar 14, 2010 – a nation, the serial killer was the monster of our nightmares, the ... A new poll of living and deceased serial killers has shown that upwards of 80 per cent ... majority routinely voted Republican, something becoming more and ...

http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Politics/pages-3/Poll-finds-eighty-percent-of-serial-killers-vote-Republican-Scrape-TV-The-World-on-your-side.html

KC
12-14-2012, 09:42 PM
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GrumpyDog
12-14-2012, 09:56 PM
Serial Killers also are predominantly fanatic religious types

FBI statistics have most of them suffering from "God" complex.%

In USA, most (over 80%) are Caucasian males, and most of the victims are women.

That alone, proves Serial Killers are NOT likely to be Liberal, because Liberal men respect women, their rights, and only wish that they be happy and equal in society. And Liberal men vote for female representatives in Congress, and will be the ones who will support the 1st Female US President, soon to be elected from the Democrats.

Adelaide
12-14-2012, 10:09 PM
Nice troll.

"right-wing Obama"

:smiley_ROFLMAO:

I'm going to have to agree with you.

patrickt
12-15-2012, 07:30 AM
Serial Killers also are predominantly fanatic religious types

FBI statistics have most of them suffering from "God" complex.%

In USA, most (over 80%) are Caucasian males, and most of the victims are women.

That alone, proves Serial Killers are NOT likely to be Liberal, because Liberal men respect women, their rights, and only wish that they be happy and equal in society. And Liberal men vote for female representatives in Congress, and will be the ones who will support the 1st Female US President, soon to be elected from the Democrats.

Hilarious. Cite a source for your silly FBI stats claim. It's really irrelevant though since people with a "god" complex are not particularly religious. They're god. Sounds like someone in politics, doesn't it? You don't seem to know the difference between a serial killer and a mass murderer. That's not surprising. In mass murders the gender of the victims doesn't seem to matter. For serial killers it does seem to matter.

Liberal men certainly respect women, as long as they're liberal women. Well, no, that's not true. They don't respect them then, either. But, they are willing to use them. Say hello to Bill Maher.

bladimz
12-15-2012, 09:55 AM
<Yes. What comes to mind instantly is the respect and courtesy that our friend Rush Limpballs showed to Sarah Fluke. And not only was he gracious, but was willing to share his feelings with all of his listeners, and by extension, the entire population.>

Please don't suggest that respect for one another is representative of one party over the other. That's just stupid.

bladimz
12-15-2012, 10:01 AM
You want a different take on what's behind all of these random terroristic attacks and insane mass killings? Watch this. I have little doubt that this plays a big part, across the board:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&amp;hl=en&amp;client=mv-google&amp;v=UhO0Pul_FcE&amp;feature=youtu.be&amp;nomobile=1

You'll never hear this discussed on the MSM and it's obvious why.

Peter1469
12-15-2012, 11:08 AM
I posted this earlier:

The last few mass murderers were found to be either on psychiatric drugs just off those meds. Let's see if that is the case here. The over medication of America may be the problem here, not the gun.


Doctors have the ability to call the local DMV and get a license suspended for medical reasons. Perhaps psychologists should report those on these drugs so police can ensure they don't have access to guns at home. And it should certainly be part of a background check to buy a legal gun.

Ivan88
12-15-2012, 11:18 AM
Federal Security Services (FSB) security memorandum circulating in the Kremlin today is reporting that the man, Adam Lanza [photo 2nd left], believed responsible for the horrific massacre of 20 children and 6 adults yesterday was the son of one of the Central Intelligence Agencies (CIA) top psychological analysts who was assigned to a Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) project which developed the sub-hunting simulator video game Dangerous Waters.


According to FSB analysts in this memorandum, Adam Lanza attacked the Sandy Hook primary education school in the Connecticut County of Fairfield, known as the “hedge fund ghetto” due to its being one of the wealthiest counties in the United States, where he killed school officials and an entire class of children Russian intelligence experts believe were a part of a DARPA “experiment” being oversaw by his mother Nancy Champion Lanza.
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1638.htm


victim Nancy Lanza, the mother of alleged shooter Adam Lanza, was a teacher at the Sandy Hook Elementary School — specifically that it was her class that Adam Lanza massacred.


But this story just out in the Journal suggests that’s not true.


Oddly, it’s buried down at the bottom of the story, almost as an afterthought …


A former school board official in Newtown called into question earlier reports that Nancy Lanza had been connected to Sandy Hook Elementary School, possibly as part of the teaching staff.
“No one has heard of her,” said Lillian Bittman, who served on the local school board until 2011. “Teachers don’t know her.”


A law enforcement official speaking on condition of anonymity said investigators believe Lanza attended the school several years ago but appeared to have no recent connection to the place.
At least one parent said Lanza’s mother was a substitute teacher there. But her name did not appear on a staff list. And the law enforcement official said investigators were unable to establish any connection so far between her and the school.


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2012/12/nancy_lanza_not_a_teacher.php?ref=fpblg


Federal Security Services (FSB) report circulating in the Kremlin today states that a massacre was averted this past week at a shopping mall located in the Portland, Oregon suburb of Happy Valley after a US military sniper team “neutralized” a heavily armed masked gunman prior to his being able to launch what was intended to be one of the United States worst mass shootings in recent years.


According to this report, this past Tuesday (11 December), the gunman intending to perpetrate this massacre, since indentified as Jacob Tyler Roberts, entered the Clackamas Town Center shopping mall, where an estimated 10,000 holiday shoppers were located, announced “I am the shooter,” then opened fire upon his shocked victims killing Cindy Ann Yuille and Steve M. Forsyth, and critically wounding a teenage girl named Kristina Shevchenko.


Within minutes of this attack occurring, this report says, one of the at least four sniper teams belonging to the US Army’s 1st Special Forces Group, headquartered at the Joint Base Lewis-McChord in Washington State, who had been pre-positioned for this attack, located the gunman and killed him with a single shot to the head thus ending, what in all likelihood Russian analysts say, could have been the worst American mass shooting in decades.


Interesting to note, this report continues, are that the US military sniper teams who ended this seemingly senseless rampage were able to have been pre-positioned due to their receiving a warning of this attack the day before via the English-language image board website named 4chan, where on 10 December, the day prior to this attempted massacre, a message was posted saying “Tomorrow. Watch the news, Clackamas Town Center Mall.” [See screen shot image below]


Unbeknownst to the American people about these mass shootings, and as the Sorcha Faal has fully documented in her seminal work titled “Iron Mountain Apocalypse: The True Story Of 2013”, the US policy of instituting a continued atmosphere of terror, panic and fear have long been a part of their plan to institute changes to their society which has seen them become the most spied upon people in all of world history.

To when the next massacre will occur, this report grimly ends, is not a matter of “if,” but rather “when,” as the “master plan” to disarm the American people is now accelerating as these unsuspecting people continue sleepwalking towards the abyss.
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1637.htm



The American people, so contented with the millions of people killed by various US regimes, and the current US sponsored terrorist war on Syria, are experiencing a smaller war to disarm them in preparation for the New American Caliphate.

GrumpyDog
12-15-2012, 11:23 PM
Hilarious. Cite a source for your silly FBI stats claim. It's really irrelevant though since people with a "god" complex are not particularly religious. They're god. Sounds like someone in politics, doesn't it? You don't seem to know the difference between a serial killer and a mass murderer. That's not surprising. In mass murders the gender of the victims doesn't seem to matter. For serial killers it does seem to matter.

Liberal men certainly respect women, as long as they're liberal women. Well, no, that's not true. They don't respect them then, either. But, they are willing to use them. Say hello to Bill Maher.

Murder has been illustrated as "the unlawful killing of a human being by another" (Oxford dictionary, 1997, p.742). The definition of Serial killings on the other hand, is not so simple to define, for it takes on many different forms, and is brought on by many different states of mind. Holmesand De Burger (1988) have attempted to define serial murder as consisting of repetitive killings which are one-on-one with rare exceptions, where the relationship between the victim and the offender is that of a stranger or slight acquaintance, and the motivation to kill and apparent motives are lacking (p.138). As we will see, this is not an extremely accurate description, because the motivation and motives are not lacking at all, but are just shrouded. Rarely do any of these killers act for money, instead they do it for the thrill, sexual satisfaction and/or dominance they achieve in their own world


As Jack Apsche (1993) makes clear, serial murderers see themselves as dominant, controlling and powerful figures. They hold the power of life and death, and in their own eyes, they perceive themselves as God. In their fantasies and their enactment of the murder, they become God. This is actually probably the only power they have ever had, and for this reason they savor and continue to persist. As B.F Skinner proved in ‘Science and Human Behavior’, once a killer has tasted the success of a kill, and is not apprehended, it will ultimately mean he will strike again. He put it simply, that once something good has happened, something that made the killer feel good, and powerful, then they will not hesitate to try it again. The first attempt may leave them with a feeling of fear, revulsion and remorse, as stated by Ted Bundy to psychologists on the eve of his execution in 1989; but at the same time, it is like an addictive drug. Some killers revisit the crime scene or take trophies, such as jewelry or body parts, or video tape the scenario so as to be able to re-live the actual feeling of power at a latter date. Many have been reported as saying that they had fallen into the power of the devil after several kills, which is contradictory to their initial beliefs that they were God. It is almost as though initially they believed that they would be powerful in that they had the choice in taking or sparing life, but as time progresses, and the kills mount up, they find they are driven to kill as though they have no choice. Apsche (1993) has noted that many killers have attempted to get help when they discovered they had little control. They appear to want to stop theiactions, but regain control to avoid their discovery. This is possibly an example of a bipolar personality cl
http://www.uplink.com.au/lawlibrary/Documents/Docs/Doc5.html

References

Apsche, J. (1993). Probing the mind of a serial killer. International information Associates.
Douglas, J., (1996). MindHunter. Mandarine Publishing
Fox, J.A., & Levin, J., (1994). OverKill - Mass Murder and Serial Killing Exposed. Plenum Press
Hughes, J.M. (Ed.).(1997). Oxford Concise Australian Dictionary (2nd ed.). Melbourne: Oxford University Press
Ressler, R.K., Burgess, A.W. & Douglas, J.E., (1990). Sexual Homicide patterns and Motives. Lexington Books
Wilson, C., & Seamen, D., (1992). The Serial Killer. Carol Publishing’s
Yochelsen, S. & Samenow, S. (1988). The criminal personality. New York Press

GrumpyDog
12-16-2012, 12:12 AM
Hypothesis: The Mass murderer in USA is more likely to be a caucasian male, suffering from the severe conservative definition of the role of males in USA society. Conservative male representives, like Todd Akin, recently as the 2012 election, have demonstrated by their condescending remarks towards the female half of the society, that they are suffering from the "Hegemonic Masculinity" syndrome.

Proof no.1

Definition of "Hegemonic Masculinity":

In gender studies (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Gender_studies), hegemonic masculinity refers to a culturally normative ideal of male (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Male) behavior. The concept of hegemonic masculinity emerges from the empirically verified hypothesis[1] (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-1) that there is a hierarchy of masculine behavior, positing that most societies encourage men to embody a dominant version of masculinity. Hegemonic masculinity is competitive and reflects a tendency for males to seek to dominate other males and subordinate females (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Female).[2] (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-2) The "oppression (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Oppression), exploitation (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Exploitation), power and social control offer a more powerful account of the constraints that operate in personality and in social organization, and of the way in which the two levels are linked in the process of being reproduced."[3] (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-3) According to the theory's proponents, it is not necessarily the most prevalent form of male expression, but rather the most socially endorsed masculinity that contributes to the subordinate position of women. Sociological approaches inventory valued characteristics such as drive, ambition (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Ambition), claims to self-reliance, and heterosexuality (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Heterosexuality), for example, which they observe to be broadly encouraged in and associated with males but more often discouraged in females in contemporary Western society.[4] (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-4)[5] (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-5)[6] (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-6) McCormack defines other hegemonic traits: "homophobic (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Homophobic), misogynistic (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Misogynistic), and aggressive".[7] (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-7) Research has also shown that to be more masculine is to become less feminine.[8] (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-8)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hegemonic_masculinity

Conservative males (mostly Caucasian), thus, are much more likely to follow this hiearchial social structure.

Liberal/Progressive males, on the other hand, are much less likely, by nature of the definition of Liberalism itself, to subordinate themselves to rigid definitions of male and female social status.

Proof no.2

Corollation between Hegemonic Masculinity and Mass Murderers in the United States:

http://www.academia.edu/1199492/Hegemonic_Masculinity_and_Mass_Murderers_in_the_Un ited_States

Peter1469
12-16-2012, 01:48 AM
That doesn't seem to define our latest mass murderers. But keep up the research Grump.

It certainly is the pigeon hole that the MSM tries to cram them all. I wonder why that is?

Mister D
12-16-2012, 12:16 PM
Gender studies...:laugh:

Anyway, what social structures are not "hiearchial"?

GrumpyDog
12-17-2012, 01:02 AM
Gender studies...:laugh:

Anyway, what social structures are not "hiearchial"?


Reading comprehension difficulities again?

Lets look at the sentence again.

Conservatives, (mostly Caucasian), are much more likely, to follow THIS hiearchial social structure.


THE WORD: "THIS" pertains to a PARTICULAR and SPECIFIC heiarchial social structure, a structure which Conservatives practice, as evidenced by recent 2012 comments by Todd Akin, among others.

UNDERSTAND NOW??

Mister D
12-17-2012, 09:25 AM
Reading comprehension difficulities again?

Lets look at the sentence again.

Conservatives, (mostly Caucasian), are much more likely, to follow THIS hiearchial social structure.


THE WORD: "THIS" pertains to a PARTICULAR and SPECIFIC heiarchial social structure, a structure which Conservatives practice, as evidenced by recent 2012 comments by Todd Akin, among others.

UNDERSTAND NOW??




U mad bro?

Gender studies...:laugh:

What separates this "hiearchial"structure from other "hiearchial" structures? What is the point of designating something as "hiearchial" if not to defame said structure? How does this structure manifest itself? In Todd Akins comments? :laugh: If this social structure is indeed a social structure it will be "followed" by virtually everyone regardless of political persuasion. If not, it could not described as a social structure. For example, if liberal and progressive Americans (a large swathe of the population) do not adhere to what you call a social structure it could not then be described as a social structure. :smiley: Get it now?

Ivan88
12-23-2012, 11:43 AM
To anyone who doubts that the US Government is capable of committing atrocities on innocent American children, look up what their plans were in Operation Northwoods.

I predicted during Obama's 1st term that if he were to get reelected, we would see the real right-wing Obama in his second term. The version of himself that he downplayed the first time around in order to not alienate himself from at least 50.1% of the voting public. I also predicted that he will push for gun restrictions during his second term. Much like the thinking behind Operation Northwoods, once the American public are afraid and horrified by certain events, they are more willing to go along with the Government's plans. It was opposition to Cuba back then, now it's opposition to gun ownership. Americans love their guns, so it would take a series of extremely nasty events in order to get the public on his side. This one today is, perhaps, one of the nastiest ever.

The ... attitude is that the ends justify the means. To the Government, 18 dead kindergarten children will be worth banning guns in our society. Is anyone willing to admit to something like that?

Hi wnga, thanks for posting your valid observation & suspicions. Secretary of State, Madeleine Albright confirms your suspicion with her declaration that starving 500,000 kids plus others to death was "worth the price"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTkFr_xcRNk&amp;list=PLD6ADC9211E99B3AA
Would have used a different one, but YouTube is blocking a lot of videos from playing.

shaarona
12-23-2012, 12:51 PM
To anyone who doubts that the US Government is capable of committing atrocities on innocent American children, look up what their plans were in Operation Northwoods.

I predicted during Obama's 1st term that if he were to get reelected, we would see the real right-wing Obama in his second term. The version of himself that he downplayed the first time around in order to not alienate himself from at least 50.1% of the voting public. I also predicted that he will push for gun restrictions during his second term. Much like the thinking behind Operation Northwoods, once the American public are afraid and horrified by certain events, they are more willing to go along with the Government's plans. It was opposition to Cuba back then, now it's opposition to gun ownership. Americans love their guns, so it would take a series of extremely nasty events in order to get the public on his side. This one today is, perhaps, one of the nastiest ever.

The right-wing attitude is that the ends justify the means. To the Government, 18 dead kindergarten children will be worth banning guns in our society. Is anyone willing to admit to something like that?

Are you nuts?

Ivan88
12-23-2012, 08:34 PM
Are you nuts?
Is shaarona blind?