The audacity of lame Ben Carson

[Scerab]

I suppose it’s not enough for this HUD, or should I say homeless, secretary to use $31,000 of OUR TAX DOLLARS to buy a dining set for A PUBLIC OFFICE. This purchase was $26,000 of TAX DOLLARS over the budget allowed. He said that you can barely get curtains for that measly 5 grand, which shows how out of touch this stupid fundamentalist is. All of that was not enough, appreantly this scumbag is defending the abuse of TAX DOLLARS. In this article he claims that this particular purchase was made for safety reasons... oh I don’t know, the dining set of the average TAX PAYER must be a life hazard to this scumbag. he also added that he consulted his wife before making the purchase. HIS WIFE!! NOT THE TAX PAYER BUT HIS OGRE OF A WIFE... as if it’s a family decision.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2018/03/20/ben-carson-defends-purchase-of-new-31000-set-the-dining-room-table-was-actually-dangerous/?utm_term=.1ba9653f6bd8

how many citizens of the United States of lobbyists became homeless due to this retarded Christian fundamentalist methods of running the HUD... he is a staunch advocate for severing welfare to the poor, which does not make any sense from a Christian perspective... he believes the poor are not entitled to any thing and should die on the streets of cold and starvation. Yet the billionaires are entitled to every perk and luxury the government has to offer.

IS THIS HOW THE BLOODY REPUBLICAN TERRORIST ORGANIZATION RUNS A REPUBLIC OR DEMOCRACY?

ANSWER ME!!!

[Kalkin]

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[Common]

I suppose it’s not enough for this HUD, or should I say homeless, secretary to use $31,000 of OUR TAX DOLLARS to buy a dining set for A PUBLIC OFFICE. This purchase was $26,000 of TAX DOLLARS over the budget allowed. He said that you can barely get curtains for that measly 5 grand, which shows how out of touch this stupid fundamentalist is. All of that was not enough, appreantly this scumbag is defending the abuse of TAX DOLLARS. In this article he claims that this particular purchase was made for safety reasons... oh I don’t know, the dining set of the average TAX PAYER must be a life hazard to this scumbag. he also added that he consulted his wife before making the purchase. HIS WIFE!! NOT THE TAX PAYER BUT HIS OGRE OF A WIFE... as if it’s a family decision.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2018/03/20/ben-carson-defends-purchase-of-new-31000-set-the-dining-room-table-was-actually-dangerous/?utm_term=.1ba9653f6bd8

how many citizens of the United States of lobbyists became homeless due to this retarded Christian fundamentalist methods of running the HUD... he is a staunch advocate for severing welfare to the poor, which does not make any sense from a Christian perspective... he believes the poor are not entitled to any thing and should die on the streets of cold and starvation. Yet the billionaires are entitled to every perk and luxury the government has to offer.

IS THIS HOW THE BLOODY REPUBLICAN TERRORIST ORGANIZATION RUNS A REPUBLIC OR DEMOCRACY?

ANSWER ME!!!

RACIST!!!! you sound like the most vile of white supremists

[Scerab]

RACIST!!!! you sound like the most vile of white supremists
Me a white supremacist? That’s ludicrous...
let me refute that by congratulating the world because the white race is about to go extinct, just like the recently extinct white rhino...

[Common]

Me a white supremacist? That’s ludicrous...
let me refute that by congratulating the world about the white race is going extinct, just like the recently extinct white rhino...
Your a Racist nothing more

[Scerab]

Your a Racist nothing more
How am I a racist?
do I make derogatory remarks about Muslims?
do I make statments aimed at ostracizing women or their rights to control their own bodies?
do I make surface any condescending views towards the less fortunate?
NO...NO...NO
The republican terrorist organization does all of those things... WHO IS THE RACIST?

[hanger4]

Scerab how much do you believe a fair price for the set should be ??

[Scerab]

@Scerab (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=2132) how much do you believe a fair price for the set should be ??
This is a very subjective question... to Oprah, that price could be ten million. To the average tax paying American, it could be $500. However, This is irrelevant, because the law only allowed for $5000.
First he surpassed that allowed amount.
second, he claimed safety reasons. Maybe this dining set shots bombs at ISIS?
third, he is showing no signs of remorse but is in fact defending his purchase.
And finally, he did not consult the American TAX PAYER, but consulted his wife instead....
these behaviors are more akin to what we expect from dictators not public officials in a democracy...

[Crepitus]

RACIST!!!! you sound like the most vile of white supremists

WTF man, race wasn't mentioned there.

[Crepitus]

Scerab how much do you believe a fair price for the set should be ??

The last dining set I bought cost something like $1200. I also don't have one in my office. And my curtains cost far less than $5000.

[hanger4]

This is a very subjective question... to Oprah, that price could be ten million. To the average tax paying American, it could be $500. However, This is irrelevant, because the law only allowed for $5000. First he surpassed that allowed amount.second, he claimed safety reasons. Maybe this dining set shots bombs at ISIS?third, he is showing no signs of remorse but is in fact defending his purchase. And finally, he did not consult the American TAX PAYER, but consulted his wife instead.... these behaviors are more akin to what we expect from dictators not public officials in a democracy...The 5k was for the HUD office not dining room. How much is a fair price for a dining room set ?? For that matter reckon how much the previous set cost in todays dollars ?? It is 50 plus years old, it seems to have been quality piece/s.

[hanger4]

The last dining set I bought cost something like $1200. I also don't have one in my office. And my curtains cost far less than $5000.The one, which is the only store bought one, cost us a bit over $200, 40 plus years ago. Still have it also, not the chairs, they all died. With help (a lot) from an old woodsmith, we built one from old barn timbers.

[Scerab]

The 5k was for the HUD office not dining room. How much is a fair price for a dining room set ?? For that matter reckon how much the previous set cost in todays dollars ?? It is 50 plus years old, it seems to have been quality piece/s.
TAX DOLLARS are a scared trust we bestow upon our elected officials to improve our lives and wellbeing. This Carson fella does not seem to understand anything about democracy. He thinks that consulting his wife is enough, as if it’s a family matter.
From what I understood, the dining set was purchased for the HUD office. And the entire budget to renovate that office is 5000 TAX DOLLARS. So in short, this Carson fella ROBBED the TAX PAYER of $26,000. One thing I cannot grasp, is why did this thief not seek any donations for his office? Surely the kock devils could have donated one of their barely used sets...what transpired shows a complete disregard for the sanctity of the TAX DOLLARS trust. In other words, Carson believes he is “entitled” to that money...
yes “entitled”, and what an ironic thing it is. He cuts housing and heating assistance for low income Americans because he believes they are “entitled”, but when he does it, it’s ok because he is rich...

[hanger4]

TAX DOLLARS are a scared trust we bestow upon our elected officials to improve our lives and wellbeing. This Carson fella does not seem to understand anything about democracy. He thinks that consulting his wife is enough, as if it’s a family matter. From what I understood, the dining set was purchased for the HUD office. And the entire budget to renovate that office is 5000 TAX DOLLARS. So in short, this Carson fella ROBBED the TAX PAYER of $26,000. One thing I cannot grasp, is why did this thief not seek any donations for his office? Surely the kock devils could have donated one of their barely used sets...what transpired shows a complete disregard for the sanctity of the TAX DOLLARS trust. In other words, Carson believes he is “entitled” to that money...yes “entitled”, and what an ironic thing it is. He cuts housing and heating assistance for low income Americans because he believes they are “entitled”, but when he does it, it’s ok because he is rich...*The set of furniture was to have graced HUD's executive dining room, located near the secretary's office. Carson has since canceled the order after a wave of bad publicity about it.* ............... https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/03/15/hud-secretary-ben-carson-appoints-financial-watchdog.html .................. Again, what do you think a fair price for a 10 place dining room set and hutch should be ??

[nathanbforrest45]

WTF man, race wasn't mentioned there.


Ben Carson is black in case you haven't noticed. Being opposed to any of Former President Obama's policies were deemed to be racist and he was only half black. It stands to reason then if you criticize a 100% black man it absolutely must be strictly on racist grounds.

[nathanbforrest45]

The last dining set I bought cost something like $1200. I also don't have one in my office. And my curtains cost far less than $5000.

You are not the head of a multi billion dollar government agency. Even a $1200.00 table is far too much for a double wide by the way.

[Scerab]

Ben Carson is black in case you haven't noticed. Being opposed to any of Former President Obama's policies were deemed to be racist and he was only half black. It stands to reason then if you criticize a 100% black man it absolutely must be strictly on racist grounds.
There are people with perfect visual acuity yet are still blind. The truth is you see what you want to see. Your attempted deduction of Carson’s race being ever so slightly referenced in this thread is pathetic. But that again I don’t expect an indoctrinated zombie to change...

[Safety]

WTF man, race wasn't mentioned there.

It’s tPF....

[Safety]

There are people with perfect visual acuity yet are still blind. The truth is you see what you want to see. Your attempted deduction of Carson’s race being ever so slightly referenced in this thread is pathetic. But that again I don’t expect an indoctrinated zombie to change...

They are just deflecting over their actions the last eight years. There’s a difference in opposing someone based upon what they do, vs opposing someone only because they look different. Like, bitching and whining about Obama costing money to travel and being ok with Trump costing more money to travel.

[roadmaster]

how many citizens of the United States of lobbyists became homeless due to this retarded Christian fundamentalist methods of running the HUD... he is a staunch advocate for severing welfare to the poor, which does not make any sense from a Christian perspective... he believes the poor are not entitled to any thing and should die on the streets of cold and starvation. Yet the billionaires are entitled to every perk and luxury the government has to offer.

IS THIS HOW THE BLOODY REPUBLICAN TERRORIST ORGANIZATION RUNS A REPUBLIC OR DEMOCRACY?

ANSWER ME!!! One the Bible says a man who can work and doesn't shouldn't eat. So don't act like you know the Bible. Two Carson is not a fundamentalist, he is a Calvinist. I think you won't approve anything he does because he is a conservative.

[nathanbforrest45]

There are people with perfect visual acuity yet are still blind. The truth is you see what you want to see. Your attempted deduction of Carson’s race being ever so slightly referenced in this thread is pathetic. But that again I don’t expect an indoctrinated zombie to change...

You are really an anal orifice. I'm sure your fellow ranters think you are the cat meow but the truth is you are an over the top delusional addle brained socialist pig.

Tell me why was any opposition to Former President Obama's policies considered racist>

ANSWER ME

ANSWER ME NOW

ANSWER ME OR BE BANNED.

[Crepitus]

You are really an anal orifice. I'm sure your fellow ranters think you are the cat meow but the truth is you are an over the top delusional addle brained socialist pig.

Tell me why was any opposition to Former President Obama's policies considered racist>

ANSWER ME

ANSWER ME NOW

ANSWER ME OR BE BANNED.

Wow, seems like he might have hit a nerve there.....

[Crepitus]

One the Bible says a man who can work and doesn't shouldn't eat. So don't act like you know the Bible. Two Carson is not a fundamentalist, he is a Calvinist. I think you won't approve anything he does because he is a conservative.

Ben Carson is a seventh day Adventist, a Fundy by anyone's definition.

[MisterVeritis]

TAX DOLLARS are a scared trust we bestow upon our elected officials to improve our lives and wellbeing. This Carson fella does not seem to understand anything about democracy. He thinks that consulting his wife is enough, as if it’s a family matter.
From what I understood, the dining set was purchased for the HUD office. And the entire budget to renovate that office is 5000 TAX DOLLARS. So in short, this Carson fella ROBBED the TAX PAYER of $26,000. One thing I cannot grasp, is why did this thief not seek any donations for his office? Surely the kock devils could have donated one of their barely used sets...what transpired shows a complete disregard for the sanctity of the TAX DOLLARS trust. In other words, Carson believes he is “entitled” to that money...
yes “entitled”, and what an ironic thing it is. He cuts housing and heating assistance for low income Americans because he believes they are “entitled”, but when he does it, it’s ok because he is rich...

The problem I see is that his decision was not wholly above board. Buying a new dining room set, assuming the purchase was appropriate (as I believe it is) should not be part of office renovation. Is 30K too much to pay for a dining room set likely to last for 20 or more years? Was it just a dining room table or did it do double duty as a formal conference table? If so did it have the usual high tech things a formal conference table should have?

It does not seem out of line to me.

[roadmaster]

Ben Carson is a seventh day Adventist, a Fundy by anyone's definition.He is a Calvinist too. In other words he believes we are designated by birth, that it's not a choice. I am against SDA's and Calvinist. I am a fundamental. So I know these other groups well.

[MisterVeritis]

This is a very subjective question... to Oprah, that price could be ten million. To the average tax paying American, it could be $500. However, This is irrelevant, because the law only allowed for $5000.
First he surpassed that allowed amount.
second, he claimed safety reasons. Maybe this dining set shots bombs at ISIS?
third, he is showing no signs of remorse but is in fact defending his purchase.
And finally, he did not consult the American TAX PAYER, but consulted his wife instead....
these behaviors are more akin to what we expect from dictators not public officials in a democracy...
The 5K was for office renovation, you know, changing the carpet, curtains, desk, and chairs. This was for a dining room.

[MisterVeritis]

Wow, seems like he might have hit a nerve there.....
I laughed.

[roadmaster]

I like Carson I just don't like his religion. The guy doesn't believe the Bible as far as hell and many other things. If he overspent then it should be noted like anyone on the left and right. It's never racist to point out errors, bad judgment or treason of another because they claim to be something or a minority, if it be religion or race. I call it like it is and don't care what names they call me.

[Crepitus]

He is a Calvinist too. In other words he believes we are designated by birth, that it's not a choice. I am against SDA's and Calvinist. I am a fundamental. So I know these other groups well.

Ah, unrest in the ranks then.

[roadmaster]

Ah, unrest in the ranks then.It doesn't mean I don't like him as a person.

[Captdon]

Me a white supremacist? That’s ludicrous...
let me refute that by congratulating the world because the white race is about to go extinct, just like the recently extinct white rhino...

Christ, you went ahead and proved it.

[Captdon]

How am I a racist?
do I make derogatory remarks about Muslims?
do I make statments aimed at ostracizing women or their rights to control their own bodies?
do I make surface any condescending views towards the less fortunate?
NO...NO...NO
The republican terrorist organization does all of those things... WHO IS THE RACIST?

You hate the white race. What the fuck do you think racist means?

[Safety]

Wow, seems like he might have hit a nerve there.....

Yep, I wonder why so many get upset over the truth....

[nathanbforrest45]

It doesn't mean I don't like him as a person.

He sent me his photo when I had sent him money for his campaign. I liked his ideas. I certainly could have voted for him.

Our boy Scarab seems a bit over the top and can't conduct a reasonable discussion without name calling and sideways comments.

I have him on ignore. Good place for him.

I wonder what "nerve" our other resident left wing racist was talking about?

[Dr. Who]

If the federal limit for office decor is $5K and the bill for the table came to $26K - it's inappropriate and he did cancel the purchase, albeit after much criticism. It's an HUD office, not the Whitehouse, so either you search out a good deal on a 2nd hand piece that is still really serviceable or appeal for donations among the politically faithful toward something nicer. I'm sure that there are plenty of 2nd hand boardroom/dining tables out there that have been replaced because they are now not the latest look in office decor. My office just replaced an enormous table and chairs that were in really good condition but because it was cherry wood and not equipped with openings for electrical connections, it had to go. The new one is not, IMO, half the quality of the old one, and the chairs not as comfortable, but knowing the brand name of the furniture that was purchased, $26K would be a bargain. If I had to guess, they paid more than twice that. Mind you, it seats at least 20 people.

[Crepitus]

He sent me his photo when I had sent him money for his campaign. I liked his ideas. I certainly could have voted for him.

Our boy Scarab seems a bit over the top and can't conduct a reasonable discussion without name calling and sideways comments.

I have him on ignore. Good place for him.

I wonder what "nerve" our other resident left wing racist was talking about?

I was referring to your little meltdown/freakout. No one responds like that unless something hit pretty close to the mark.

Btw, I don't think you understand what the term "racist" means.

[DGUtley]

You are really an anal orifice. I'm sure your fellow ranters think you are the cat meow but the truth is you are an over the top delusional addle brained socialist pig.

Tell me why was any opposition to Former President Obama's policies considered racist>

ANSWER ME

ANSWER ME NOW

ANSWER ME OR BE BANNED.

WARNING - nathanbforrest45 - discuss the post and not the poster. Refrain from threatening moderation activity.

[Scerab]

You hate the white race. What the $#@! do you think racist means?
I absolutely abhor the KKK, neo-nazis and every other white supremacy group. The United States of lobbyists is certainly a lot less progressive then Europe. Even Pakistan has had a female president and it’s a country that is rampant with honor killings.
I have lived in Alabama Huntsville for one year. There I saw first hand the deep animosity these Dixies harbor towards their fellow man. What was strange is how they coupled this hatred with the famous southern hospitality... it was there that I witnessed how ugly racist can be. Basically if your not white and baptist then your an alien and thusly must be ostracized.

[MisterVeritis]

I absolutely abhor the KKK, neo-nazis and every other white supremacy group. The United States of lobbyists is certainly a lot less progressive then Europe. Even Pakistan has had a female president and it’s a country that is rampant with honor killings.
I have lived in Alabama Huntsville for one year. There I saw first hand the deep animosity these Dixies harbor towards their fellow man. What was strange is how they coupled this hatred with the famous southern hospitality... it was there that I witnessed how ugly racist can be. Basically if your not white and baptist then your an alien and thusly must be ostracized.
There is an old story about a very old, wise man who sat on the outskirts of a large town every day. One day a woman came by. She had her possessions with her. She stopped and asked the man what sorts of people live in his town. What should she expect. He said, " I would love to answer your question. First tell me more about you and the town you are moving from. What sort of people live there?" She said, "They are wonderful people, happy, caring, a real pleasure to know." The old, wise man nodded approvingly and said, "You will find the same sort of people live in this town."

Later that day another woman came by. She too, was moving. "Old man!" she snapped. I had to move away from the town I lived in. Is this a good town to live in? What are the people like?" He said, " I would love to answer your question. First tell me more about you and the town you are moving from. What sort of people live there?" She said, "They were horrible people, always angry, bigots, prejudiced. Ugly, racist and spiteful!"

The old, wise man nodded and said, "You will find the same sort of people live in this town."