President Trump Should Veto the Tyrannical Omnibus Budget Bill

[MisterVeritis]

I call upon President Trump to veto the tyrannical omnibus Budget Bill the idiot Republicans have crafted. It funds every leftist program. It saves Obamacare. It fully funds Planned Parenthood. It may even fully fund the massive boondoggle to create a tunnel between New York and New Jersey. The idiot Republican King will veto the bill if this 20 billion dollar items is not included. Leave it out and shut down the government.

This bill includes everything we hate. It funds every reason why we elected Republicans to prevent.

It does not fully fund Steinle's Wall on the Southern Border.

So close the Federal government down. Do not sign this tyrannical bill into law.

[Tahuyaman]

If he doesn't veto this, he's going to start losing his base of support. This budget deal is not the reason people voted for him. This is uncontrolled spending at a level that would make Obama blush. This is much worse than Obama's stimulus bill.

[Scerab]

This is what the republican terrorist organization wants...
lets veto any thing that increases funding for domestic programs. All you want is to increase spending aimlessly and mindlessly on military programs.
Let the American people starve
let the American people die of the plague
let American children suffer vagrancy
all while YOU enjoy the Murdock network braging about how important it is to increase military spending.
WHY? Why do we need such a HUGE military budget? Are we at war with any one? Aside from the terrible republican terrorizing war in Afghanistan, we are not in a state of war...
Our fleets and soldiers are spread across the planet in south east Asia, the Middle East and Europe, WHILE THE HOMELAND IS DEFENSELESS!
I suppose the indoctrinated zombies tuning in on the Murdock’s are too ignorant to feel alarmed. They believe that every one is out to get us! Psychiatrists have a diagnosis for that and it’s called paranoia...

This bill will only add to our already precarious situation. One trillion dollars deficit, 21 trillion dollar debt and an impending economic down fall in the very near future. The problem is, we don’t know the actual economic impact this omnibus bill has, since it has so many “rider” bills attached to it.

DID NOT THIS BIGOT-in-CHIEF PROMISE TO CLEAR THE SWAMP?

DID HE NOT PROMISE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT MEXICO WILL PAY FOR THE WALL?
Why is he begging for TAX dollars to fund this stupidity?


history will curse trump’s, /SPIT, name.

[Crepitus]

I call upon President Trump to veto the tyrannical omnibus Budget Bill the idiot Republicans have crafted. It funds every leftist program. It saves Obamacare. It fully funds Planned Parenthood. It may even fully fund the massive boondoggle to create a tunnel between New York and New Jersey. The idiot Republican King will veto the bill if this 20 billion dollar items is not included. Leave it out and shut down the government.

This bill includes everything we hate. It funds every reason why we elected Republicans to prevent.

It does not fully fund Steinle's Wall on the Southern Border.

So close the Federal government down. Do not sign this tyrannical bill into law.

WTF is "Stienle's wall"? It's tRump's wall.

[Scerab]

This is uncontrolled spending at a level that would make Obama blush. This is much worse than Obama's stimulus bill.
Obama had the Great Recession, cause by the terrible bush little, to blame.
WHAT IS THE REPUBLICAN TERRORIST ORGANIZATION EXCUSE?

[jimmyz]

If Trump is true to his Trumpism Rep he will not sign it and lead it in his own screwed-up direction. lol

[Tahuyaman]

This is what the republican terrorist organization wants...
lets veto any thing that increases funding for domestic programs. All you want is to increase spending aimlessly and mindlessly on military programs.
Let the American people starve
let the American people die of the plague
let American children suffer vagrancy
all while YOU enjoy the Murdock network braging about how important it is to increase military spending.
WHY? Why do we need such a HUGE military budget? Are we at war with any one? Aside from the terrible republican terrorizing war in Afghanistan, we are not in a state of war...
Our fleets and soldiers are spread across the planet in south east Asia, the Middle East and Europe, WHILE THE HOMELAND IS DEFENSELESS!
I suppose the indoctrinated zombies tuning in on the Murdock’s are too ignorant to feel alarmed. They believe that every one is out to get us! Psychiatrists have a diagnosis for that and it’s called paranoia...

This bill will only add to our already precarious situation. One trillion dollars deficit, 21 trillion dollar debt and an impending economic down fall in the very near future. The problem is, we don’t know the actual economic impact this omnibus bill has, since it has so many “rider” bills attached to it.

DID NOT THIS BIGOT-in-CHIEF PROMISE TO CLEAR THE SWAMP?

DID HE NOT PROMISE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT MEXICO WILL PAY FOR THE WALL?
Why is he begging for TAX dollars to fund this stupidity?


history will curse trump’s, /SPIT, name.

You can not ever again complain of debt and deficits. Your complaint about the debt is a sham.

[Tahuyaman]

If Trump is true to his Trumpism Rep he will not sign it and lead it in his own screwed-up direction. lol


If he does sign it, he is backtracking on several key campaign promises. If he signs it, he will start losing that base of support he once thought was impossible to lose.


Why do you suppose the liberals are so excited about this spending bill? It actually gives them more than what they want.


Every single Republican in the Congress campaigned against this kind of thing. Opposing this is how they hot elected. I hope everyone who votes for this is voted out of office.

[Tahuyaman]

Obama had the Great Recession, cause by the terrible bush little, to blame.
WHAT IS THE REPUBLICAN TERRORIST ORGANIZATION EXCUSE?


No reasonable discussion is possible with you.

[Scerab]

You can not ever again complain of debt and deficits. Your complaint about the debt is a sham.
IS IT NOT THE TERRIBLE BUSH WHO INCURED MANY TRILLIONS Of DOLLARS OF LIABILITIES ON THE US ECONOMY?
he is responsible for the Iraq war, price tag 2.5 trillion dollars.
he is responsible for the Afghanistan war, price tag 1 trillion dollars.
he is responsible for the Great Recession, price tag 12 trillion dollars.

Let’s not forget about the cursed Reagan./spit, and his debt add up of 1.8 trillion dollars.
Head serpent Bush added 1.5 trillion dollars.
Last and least you have the fat ugly bigot-in-chief with a nice estimated 8 trillion dollars of debt IN A SINGLE TERM...

of course you indoctrinated Murdoch zombies will blame the Recession on Obama and all of the spending measures he approved to HELP THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. But I blame that on that dullard bush little.

[Tahuyaman]

No reasonable discussion is possible with you.


IS IT NOT THE TERRIBLE BUSH WHO INCURED MANY TRILLIONS Of DOLLARS OF LIABILITIES ON THE US ECONOMY?
he is responsible for the Iraq war, price tag 2.5 trillion dollars.
he is responsible for the Afghanistan war, price tag 1 trillion dollars.
he is responsible for the Great Recession, price tag 12 trillion dollars.

Let’s not forget about the cursed Reagan./spit, and his debt add up of 1.8 trillion dollars.
Head serpent Bush added 1.5 trillion dollars.
Last and least you have the fat ugly bigot-in-chief with a nice estimated 8 trillion dollars of debt IN A SINGLE TERM...

of course you indoctrinated Murdoch zombies will blame the Recession on Obama and all of the spending measures he approved to HELP THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. But I blame that on that dullard bush little.

[MMC]

Trump will sign it.....but its the Repubs fault. They didn't have to give into the Demos demands. Repubs still haven't learned. Give the Demos nothing. Absolutely nothing.

[Scerab]

Trump will sign it.....but its the Repubs fault. They didn't have to give into the Demos demands. Repubs still haven't learned. Give the Demos nothing. Absolutely nothing.
There is a consensus on capital hill, if you increase spending on defense than you must increase spending on domestic programs as well. The dollar amount of the increases should also be somewhat symmetrical.
But alas, the republican terrorist organization cares not for the blight of the American citizens, only the whims of the billionaires.

[MisterVeritis]

WTF is "Stienle's wall"? It's tRump's wall.Steinle's Wall is my name for the wall we will build on the Southern border between the United States and Mexico.

[MisterVeritis]

Trump will sign it.....but its the Repubs fault. They didn't have to give into the Demos demands. Repubs still haven't learned. Give the Demos nothing. Absolutely nothing.
I do not see a path forward for the Republicans, including President Trump if this bill becomes law as it is today.

[MMC]

I do not see a path forward for the Republicans, including President Trump if this bill becomes law as it is today.


Yes there is a path.....don't give the Demos and their Cult following Power.


Poll: Actually, GOP Voters Are Motivated For 2018 Too....


The Democrats are enthused. They’re scoring local-level wins in Trump territory. They even won a congressional race in a district that won’t exist soon, but there is no denying it—the Left is energized for the 2018 midterms. Yet, a new Morning Consult poll showed that Republicans are just as motivated for this year’s election as the Democrats. The turnout for the local races were minuscule, so the news media should be mindful of that in their drooling coverage of a possible blue wave in November. Also, PA-18, where Democrat Conor Lamb beat Republican Rick Saccone most likely had a depressed GOP turnout. Former Rep. Tim Murphy resigned after his extramarital tryst sparked a pregnancy scare and he reportedly wanted his mistress to get an abortion. Texts of the conversations were made public last year. When that happens, you bet the local GOP will be demoralized. Second, given that the district is going to vanish, why would you turnout? And third, and probably most importantly, I don’t think a lot of people knew there was a special election going on this month. Regardless, the polls showed that close to 90 percent of GOP voters are motivated (via Washington Examiner (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/surprise-gop-voters-more-motivated-enthusiastic-than-democrats)):


The latest Morning Consult/Politico poll found that voters are getting revved up in advance of the midterm elections and that Republicans have the motivation edge. From the survey analysis:
Voter enthusiasm grows ahead of 2018 midterms: In this week's poll, 79% of voters said they are motivated to vote in the upcoming 2018 midterm elections, compared to 11% who said they are not motivated. In late December, 72% said they were motivated, and 13% said they were not motivated.
Motivation high across party lines: 89% of Republicans, 83% of Democrats, and 68% of Independents said they were motivated to vote in the upcoming midterms. In late December 80% of Republicans, 75% of Democrats, and 62% said the same.
Republicans attribute their advantage to the recently passed tax reform package that put more cash in their wallets.


Yet, the publication was apt to note something that both parties should take into account, which is that enthusiasm is good, but hardly a crystal ball on who will win. The GOP enthusiasm was high in 2012, Romney lost. In Georgia’s special election for the sixth congressional district formerly held by Tom Price, the Democratic enthusiasm was high, Republican Karen Handel beat Democrat Jon Ossoff. We have around eight months to go until the 2018 elections. That’s a lot of time. A lot can happen......snip~

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2018/03/22/poll-actually-gop-voters-are-motivated-n2463373

[MisterVeritis]

Yes there is a path.....don't give the Demos and their Cult following Power.

Electing Republicans did not make any difference. The Congress critters know a few of them may be voted out but nearly all will continue. Meanwhile, the debt grows larger, every left-wing program gets fully funded, the Republican-centric ideas, like the border wall (Steinle's Wall) are given lip service.

And you believe that is a recipe for winning the mid-term elections? If this bill becomes law I believe millions of people much like me will not bother to vote this November.

[MMC]

Electing Republicans did not make any difference. The Congress critters know a few of them may be voted out but nearly all will continue. Meanwhile, the debt grows larger, every left-wing program gets fully funded, the Republican-centric ideas, like the border wall (Steinle's Wall) are given lip service.

And you believe that is a recipe for winning the mid-term elections? If this bill becomes law I believe millions of people much like me will not bother to vote this November.

Time to collect those IOU's from those overseas. They will vote.....as they don't want the Demos in power, getting rid of the 2nd. Nor raising taxes and taking more of their money.

[Scerab]

I do not see a path forward for the Republicans, including President Trump if this bill becomes law as it is today.

I hope, for America’s sake, that your predictions are correct. Because this bill will pass. It is afterall an election year, one that will deliver a clout to the smarmy republicans.

[MisterVeritis]

I hope, for America’s sake, that your predictions are correct. Because this bill will pass. It is afterall an election year, one that will deliver a clout to the smarmy republicans.
Yes. Democrats will sweep into power. President Trump will be impeached and removed from office. We will see our taxes raised. We will become a sanctuary nation. Some of us will soon live in Little Somalia. Some of us will live in Islamized states under modified Sharia law. Socialism will prevail resulting in an equality in poverty. The Left will outlaws guns and attempt their confiscation.

It will be utopia.

All of this could stem from a failure to veto the current Progressive-left spending spree. It is as if the drunken Marxists do not care.

[DGUtley]

There is a consensus on capital hill, if you increase spending on defense than you must increase spending on domestic programs as well. The dollar amount of the increases should also be somewhat symmetrical. . . . . .

There is?

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[Tahuyaman]

Trump will sign it.....but its the Repubs fault. They didn't have to give into the Demos demands. Repubs still haven't learned. Give the Demos nothing. Absolutely nothing.

I agree with your point about the Republicans, but if Trump signs this he is taking ownership of it. He will be backtracking on key promises he made during his campaign. This will not sit well with his base of support.


This continual threat of a government shut down is a scam.


The Republicans will never grow a set of balls until someone forces them to. Trump should veto this and put it back in their hands. If he does veto this, that veto won't be overridden.

[Tahuyaman]

There is?

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There is on the left.

[MisterVeritis]

I am listening to Rush Limbaugh. It is far worse than I knew.

I am thoroughly disgusted with the Republicans and President Trump.

[MMC]

I agree with your point about the Republicans, but if Trump signs this he is taking ownership of it. He will be backtracking on key promises he made during his campaign. This will not sit well with his base of support.


This continual threat of a government shut down is a scam.


The Republicans will never grow a set of balls until someone forces them to. Trump should veto this and put it back in their hands. If he does veto this, that veto won't be overridden.

Yet, he will come thru on his Military Promise and the Wall.

[MisterVeritis]

This spending bill is a declaration of war on American citizens.

The Republican party needs to be crushed.

[Scerab]

Yes. Democrats will sweep into power. President Trump will be impeached and removed from office. We will see our taxes raised. We will become a sanctuary nation. Some of us will soon live in Little Somalia. Some of us will live in Islamized states under modified Sharia law. Socialism will prevail resulting in an equality in poverty. The Left will outlaws guns and attempt their confiscation.

It will be utopia.

All of this could stem from a failure to veto the current Progressive-left spending spree. It is as if the drunken Marxists do not care.


If all of that comes to pass, then I will relocate to Canada...

I don’t want the current bigot-in-chief to be impeached. Because that means we will get that weasel Koch slave pence. Personally, I rather have the son of osama bin laden in the White House than that evangelical fundamentalist.

As for raising taxes, what other solution do you propose that will save us from the inexorable austerity staring us in the face? Might I remind you that the peanuts you received from the tax scam were derived from a 1.5 trillion dollar debt...

The democrats recent unbridled support of illegals who CAN NOT VOTE, is nothing short of treachery. They set aside tackling many hurdles the American people are facing to defend those who have no constitutional rights. When I am asked “what do you hate most about California?” My answer is always “giving TAX DOLLARS to illegals, whether medicaid or otherwise”. Oh how I wish there were a viable alternative...

It might not dawn upon most Murdoch zombies that Muslims flee to the west, meaning Europe and the United States of lobbyists, because they are fleeing sharia law... of course there are a few rotten apples in EVERY BARREL, Muslims or otherwise.

Only four countries in the WORLD have laws that support citizens handling of firearms, two of which are Latin. Why than are we part of this minority? Why must we cling to this amendment that is over 2 centuries old? You want to defend yourself from government tyranny? Or defend yourself from your fellow citizens? Or foreign invaders? Because you can’t do any of those things with the toy sticks you have...

Very few Americans want rampant socialism, but we do want a fair share of the economic pie. The tax scam gave so much to the rich and still they are not satisfied. Larry Kudlow is trying to give rich people even more tax breaks without congress voting on it... when will this end? Why are the rich “entitled” while the poor are not? Trickle down economics is a sham. Tesla just gave Musk more money then what the bottom Half of American society will ever see in their ENITRE LIVES, COMBINED. When will this end? The republicans tell their constituents about heaven, you will go to heaven and enjoy eternal bliss... the truth, unfortunately, is far less gleeful. You only have one life and then your nothing. The molecules that make you will never be reassembled to remake you again. Organized religion is the original scam.

[MMC]

This spending bill is a declaration of war on American citizens.

The Republican party needs to be crushed.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdOgotuap60

[MisterVeritis]

I believe President Trump signed it. I think this ends his presidency.

[Tahuyaman]

Yet, he will come thru on his Military Promise and the Wall.
There will be no wall. This spending deal assures that it won't happen.

By signing this bill, Trump just started the process of alienating his base and losing any new support he gained over his first year in office. He has now broken key campaign promises. He just handed power over to the left wing of American politics. He double crossed those who supported him during his campaign and his first year in office.


Today Trump became just another neutered Republican.

[Scerab]

There will be no wall. This spending deal assures that it won't happen.

By signing this bill, Trump just started the process of alienating his base and losing any new support he gained over his first year in office. He has now broken key campaign promises. He just handed power over to the left wing of American politics. He double crossed those who supported him during his campaign and his first year in office.


Today Trump became just another neutered Republican.
It funny how y’all seem Surprised... this bigot-in-chief will be the biggest contributor to our national debt to date, and possibly the future. But you can always find solace in tuning in on the Murdock’s network of indoctrination, maybe they are brewing a new Clinton scandal to “LOCK HER UP!”...

[Tahuyaman]

It funny how y’all seem Surprised... this bigot-in-chief will be the biggest contributor to our national debt to date, and possibly the future. But you can always find solace in tuning in on the Murdock’s network of indoctrination, maybe they are brewing a new Clinton scandal to “LOCK HER UP!”...


I'm going out on a limb here in saying that it's impossible for you to communicate a rational thought.

[MMC]

There will be no wall. This spending deal assures that it won't happen.

By signing this bill, Trump just started the process of alienating his base and losing any new support he gained over his first year in office. He has now broken key campaign promises. He just handed power over to the left wing of American politics. He double crossed those who supported him during his campaign and his first year in office.


Today Trump became just another neutered Republican.

His base wont leave him and neither will Military Repubs. 700 billion just for the military.

[MisterVeritis]

His base wont leave him and neither will Military Repubs. 700 billion just for the military.
I am done. I will not vote or another Republican.

[Scerab]

I'm going out on a limb here in saying that it's impossible for you to communicate a rational thought.
Did trump, /spit, lie to you or not?
was this “lock her up” rhetoric, not what made you vote for him?
trump is impulsive, selfish, misogynistic, bigtoic, greedy, and a million other negative characteristics I don’t care to mention...

you voted for him, now you live with the consequences...

[MMC]

I am done. I will not vote or another Republican.

Then you give the Demos more of a chance of gaining power.

[Kalkin]

There is a consensus on capital hill, if you increase spending on defense than you must increase spending on domestic programs as well.

Actually, you don't. I'd prefer spending cuts across the board, to the tune of at least 10%. The short term pain would be offset by the long term gain.

[Scerab]

I am done. I will not vote or another Republican.
What will it be then mr v...
libertarian or green?
I hope not the American communist party...
here is a though, why not embrace abstinence... isn’t that what the Bible teaches us?

[Tahuyaman]

I believe President Trump signed it. I think this ends his presidency.

This isn't going to end his presidency. It just makes him another tool of the political establishment. Everything he campaigned on is now irrelevant. This is the epitome of pulling the rug out from under those who supported you. He surrendered to the political establishment. They own him now.


He just morphed into being another balless Republican.

[MisterVeritis]

Then you give the Demos more of a chance of gaining power.
Yes. It is over.

[MisterVeritis]

This isn't going to end his presidency. It just makes him another tool of the political establishment. Everything he campaigned on is now irrelevant. This is the epitome of pulling the rug out from under those who supported you. He surrendered to the political establishment. They own him now.

He just morphed into being another balless Republican.
We can disagree. Here is what I believe will happen. Three to four million people like me will stay home in the midterms. The Democrats will be the majority party in both houses next year. The House will immediately take up impeachment. The Senate will remove him.

Meanwhile, he just moved into an interesting footnote in history. And he did it to himself.

[MisterVeritis]

I believe this will significantly increase the desire to break up the nation.

[Common Sense]

I believe this will significantly increase the desire to break up the nation.

Thats a tad dramatic don't you think?

[MMC]

Yes. It is over.

Meh.....more blacks and Latinos will vote for him picking up the slack.

[Tahuyaman]

We can disagree. Here is what I believe will happen. Three to four million people like me will stay home in the midterms. The Democrats will be the majority party in both houses next year. The House will immediately take up impeachment. The Senate will remove him.

Meanwhile, he just moved into an interesting footnote in history. And he did it to himself.


Yes, he did indeed just ensure that the Democrats will become the majority in both houses of the congress. Of course millions of constitutional type conservatives will sit out the mide term elections. They are now saying "what's the use"? The left gets more of what they want when they aren't in control.

Here's where we disagree... They aren't going to impeach him. They now pushed I'm into irrelevance. They own him. He just showed them that he's afraid to stand up to them. Why would they risk losing that by impeaching him?

[MisterVeritis]

Thats a tad dramatic don't you think?
No. I voted for Republicans who designed a budget that gutted the President's agenda and he signed it. Our most important right is the right of self-governance. I have no representation in this nation. So let's break this nation up and I will move to the new nation where I can be represented.

[MisterVeritis]

Yes, he did indeed just ensure that the Democrats will become the majority in both houses of the congress.

Here's where we disagree... They aren't going to impeach him. They now pushed I'm into irrelevance. They own him. He just showed them that he's afraid to stand up to them. Why would they risk losing that by impeaching him?
You raise an interesting point. I will think about it for a few days.

[MisterVeritis]

Meh.....more blacks and Latinos will vote for him picking up the slack.
Is that the plan? Cool.

[Tahuyaman]

Did trump, /spit, lie to you or not?
was this “lock her up” rhetoric, not what made you vote for him?
trump is impulsive, selfish, misogynistic, bigtoic, greedy, and a million other negative characteristics I don’t care to mention...

you voted for him, now you live with the consequences...

First of all, I did not vote for him. You can check my comments during his campaign. I always said that he was a guy who supported more spending and growing government. I was one of his biggest critics.



He did fool me with some of his actions like vacating Obama era EO's and eliminating burdensome regulations. For a while I thought that he would show the Republicans how to restore their balls. I can guarantee that he will never fool me again.



He did just stab his base in the back.

[Tahuyaman]

Trump said that he will never sign another bill like this ever again. WTF? He just signed one. How can anyone believe that he would not sign another? He just proved that his promises mean nothing.




However, he's not going be facing another bill like this. The Democrats are going to regain control of the Congress and they are not going to propose such a bill in the future. They are going to govern through these three week long continuing resolutions with the threat of these idiotic government shut downs. And of course him and the Republicans will cave in because they don't want to be blamed.

[MisterVeritis]

In my opinion, this was a catastrophic defeat.

[Tahuyaman]

His base wont leave him and neither will Military Repubs. 700 billion just for the military.


You keep thinking that. He lost a good chunk of his base today.

[Tahuyaman]

Now the question is, can he regain the support he's losing as a result of this? It is possible, but many people now don't trust that he means what he says. It's going to be difficult for him to now regain that trust.


Once you compromise your principles it becomes easier to do it again.

[Scerab]

Actually, you don't. I'd prefer spending cuts across the board, to the tune of at least 10%. The short term pain would be offset by the long term gain.
I am in favor of a spending cut across the board. But that must be coupled with increased taxation and more efficient spending, otherwise the pain incured will accomplish nothing. this is the only hope we have of avoiding austerity... oh how Americans will love austerity... ever heard of Porto Rico and Greece?

[Scerab]

Now the question is, can he regain the support he's losing as a result of this? It is possible, but many people now don't trust that he means what he says. It's going to be difficult for him to now regain that trust.


Once you compromise your principles it becomes easier to do it again.

Trump ,/spit, was never popular because of his principles, more like the lack of them. He will continue to sway the American public by his outrageous tweets, creating more outrageous headlines. You know the saying “all publicity is good publicity”. The trick is to keep his mention on the media outlets, the popularity will follow.
I wonder what will he tweet next? Maybe about an alleged affair between Melania, who used to be a prostitute, and George Clooney.... that ought to grab the public’s attention...

[Tahuyaman]

I am in favor of a spending cut across the board. But that must be coupled with increased taxation and more efficient spending, otherwise the pain incured will accomplish nothing. this is the only hope we have of avoiding austerity... oh how Americans will love austerity... ever heard of Porto Rico and Greece?
I got it. You are a true believer in the idea of tax and spend.



I dont know how you can connect this spending bill to "austerity". You better get with Chuck Schumer because he just said that this bill officially killed the era of austerity.



I've never heard of a "Porto" anything.

[Peter1469]

Electing Republicans did not make any difference. The Congress critters know a few of them may be voted out but nearly all will continue. Meanwhile, the debt grows larger, every left-wing program gets fully funded, the Republican-centric ideas, like the border wall (Steinle's Wall) are given lip service.

And you believe that is a recipe for winning the mid-term elections? If this bill becomes law I believe millions of people much like me will not bother to vote this November.

Republicans and Democrats largely govern the same. Their rhetoric is different, but they all increase spending. This spending bill is awful.

[Tahuyaman]

Republicans and Democrats largely govern the same. Their rhetoric is different, but they all increase spending. This spending bill is awful.

Republicans can be effective when they are in the minority. For some reason, when they take charge they lose their spine. We only have conservative representation when that representation is in the minority.


But yes, this spending bill is awful.

[Kalkin]

I am in favor of a spending cut across the board.
Excellent. We agree on something.

But that must be coupled with increased taxation
No.

and more efficient spending,
Yes.

otherwise the pain incured will accomplish nothing.Untrue. Spending will be cut. That alone is an accomplishment.

this is the only hope we have of avoiding austerity... oh how Americans will love austerity... ever heard of Porto Rico and Greece?
I've heard of both those places (well Puerto Rico, not porto rico). Destroyed by liberal political policies, they were.

[roadmaster]

He signed something he claimed no one could read in a day. Who puts their signature on anything without reading and knowing what it details? He has no excuse and he will loose his base on this one. I thought it was dumb for him not to listen to his lawyer telling him not to talk to Muller, now this. He is not as smart as he thinks he is or he does know what's in it and now will use excuses.

[Tahuyaman]

The US government is already very efficient when it comes to spending money. We need to spend less. Period.

Saying that we need to spend more efficiently is a meaningless political phrase.

[zelmo1234]

I am in favor of a spending cut across the board. But that must be coupled with increased taxation and more efficient spending, otherwise the pain incured will accomplish nothing. this is the only hope we have of avoiding austerity... oh how Americans will love austerity... ever heard of Porto Rico and Greece?
Why would you want to increase Taxation, that generally suppresses revenue. Just look at the fact.



There have been 4 major tax cuts in the last 60 years. JFK very large Tax Cut Revenue goes through the roof. The Reagan Tax cut Revenue doubles in his term in office. Bill Clinton Capital gains tax cut, which by the way was the only cut that the majority of the benefit went to the Rich, Revenue again skyrockets, and Now we have the Trump Cuts and only time will tell but we did have a month were we actually took in more that we spent.

Raising taxes suppresses Growth every time that it is done and when you suppress growth, you don't achieve increases in revenue.

[zelmo1234]

I did not read every post, but I can tell you how I feel about this.

He sold out the people that put him in office. If he can't correct the spending in the next budget, I will not be able to vote for him in 2020

[Tahuyaman]

Why would you want to increase Taxation, that generally suppresses revenue. Just look at the fact.



There have been 4 major tax cuts in the last 60 years. JFK very large Tax Cut Revenue goes through the roof. The Reagan Tax cut Revenue doubles in his term in office. Bill Clinton Capital gains tax cut, which by the way was the only cut that the majority of the benefit went to the Rich, Revenue again skyrockets, and Now we have the Trump Cuts and only time will tell but we did have a month were we actually took in more that we spent.

Raising taxes suppresses Growth every time that it is done and when you suppress growth, you don't achieve increases in revenue.

Trump just signed an establishment generated spending plan which spends more than the revenue increases realized by the tax cuts.

[Tahuyaman]

I did not read every post, but I can tell you how I feel about this.

He sold out the people that put him in office. If he can't correct the spending in the next budget, I will not be able to vote for him in 2020


There’s not going to be another budget while he is POTUS. The Democrats have made that clear.


They will gladly go from CR to CR every couple of months so they can keep the threat of a government shut down alive.


Trump just signed himself into having to deal with a Democrat controlled congress for the rest of his term.

[roadmaster]

There’s not going to be another budget while he is POTUS. The Democrats have made that clear.


They will gladly go from CR to CR every couple of months so they can keep the threat of a government shut down alive.


Trump just signed himself into having to deal with a Democrat controlled congress for the rest of his term.

It doesn't matter what he does now. He tied the hands of ICE, did not eliminate catch and release and didn't get more judges or agents, put those people that were blacklisted building his prototypes as if they are nothing now, funded PP and sanctuary cities.

[roadmaster]

And there is no telling what they haven't told us that is also in the bill. They can approve money for every other country and their walls but not ours.

[MisterVeritis]

This is an immoral bill. President Trump signed it so President Trump owns it.

[Tahuyaman]

It doesn't matter what he does now. He tied the hands of ICE, did not eliminate catch and release and didn't get more judges or agents, put those people that were blacklisted building his prototypes as if they are nothing now, funded PP and sanctuary cities.

Trump is relying on the fact that he is keeping a promise to rebuild the military. To me, that doesn’t neutralize breaking four or five promises with a single stroke if his pen.

Also Mattis’ glowing approval of this tells me that he is not serious about our overall national security. He’s only concerned with securing more money for the defense department.


Anyone who supports this should not be in a position of authority within our government.

[gamewell45]

Trump will sign it.....but its the Repubs fault. They didn't have to give into the Demos demands. Repubs still haven't learned. Give the Demos nothing. Absolutely nothing.

Well, he (Trump) did sign it thus going back on campaign promises which can only hurt his credibility with his voting base and it gives ammunition to the democrats down the road. My question is: what was the leadership thinking in both houses of Congress when they allowed the bill to be passed? Except for the military, there is not much in it for Trump; if i read into it properly, he didn't get funding for his wall. The MSM is literally howling with laughter over this.


If they wanted Trump to be re-elected in 2020 this does not help his chances.

[MisterVeritis]

Well, he (Trump) did sign it thus going back on campaign promises which can only hurt his credibility with his voting base and it gives ammunition to the democrats down the road. My question is: what was the leadership thinking in both houses of Congress when they allowed the bill to be passed? Except for the military, there is not much in it for Trump; if i read into it properly, he didn't get funding for his wall. The MSM is literally howling with laughter over this.
If they wanted Trump to be re-elected in 2020 this does not help his chances.

In my opinion, this was designed to do exactly what it did. It has separated a large percentage of Trump's base of support from Trump. I don't think the Republicans care that it will cause their defeat in November.

[Tahuyaman]

In my opinion, this was designed to do exactly what it did. It has separated a large percentage of Trump's base of support from Trump. I don't think the Republicans care that it will cause their defeat in November.. You need to get out of the Republican vs Democrat mode as long as Trump is in office.

It’s the establishment vs the outsiders.


Still Trump should have thrown this bill back st them and forced their hand. He folded instead.

[MisterVeritis]

. You need to get out of the Republican vs Democrat mode as long as Trump is in office.
It’s the establishment vs the outsiders.
Still Trump should have thrown this bill back st them and forced their hand. He folded instead.
I do not disagree. But it will be Republicans who lose offices.

[Tahuyaman]

I do not disagree. But it will be Republicans who lose offices.

It’s time to purge career politicians regardless of party.

Republicans are only slightly useful when they are in the minority anyway. As the majority they are completely useless.

[Chris]

Obama had the Great Recession, cause by the terrible bush little, to blame.
WHAT IS THE REPUBLICAN TERRORIST ORGANIZATION EXCUSE?

The roots of the Great Recession go back to the creation of Fannie Mae and later Freddie Mac.

[Peter1469]

The roots of the Great Recession go back to the creation of Fannie Mae and later Freddie Mac.

More than that. The problem in 2008 was that several financial sectors failed at once.

[Dr. Who]

I call upon President Trump to veto the tyrannical omnibus Budget Bill the idiot Republicans have crafted. It funds every leftist program. It saves Obamacare. It fully funds Planned Parenthood. It may even fully fund the massive boondoggle to create a tunnel between New York and New Jersey. The idiot Republican King will veto the bill if this 20 billion dollar items is not included. Leave it out and shut down the government.

This bill includes everything we hate. It funds every reason why we elected Republicans to prevent.

It does not fully fund Steinle's Wall on the Southern Border.

So close the Federal government down. Do not sign this tyrannical bill into law.

Wow. You're surprised that an opportunistic liberal pretending to be a conservative is trying to slip one past the American public? As someone who likes history, you should have paid attention to his history. He's an opportunist who also happens to be a liberal where it suits him and he doesn't read anything anyway, so he probably doesn't really know what's in that bill.

All I can say is, I told you so.

[Dr. Who]

Well, he (Trump) did sign it thus going back on campaign promises which can only hurt his credibility with his voting base and it gives ammunition to the democrats down the road. My question is: what was the leadership thinking in both houses of Congress when they allowed the bill to be passed? Except for the military, there is not much in it for Trump; if i read into it properly, he didn't get funding for his wall. The MSM is literally howling with laughter over this.


If they wanted Trump to be re-elected in 2020 this does not help his chances.

This is an "I told you so" moment.

[Dr. Who]

. You need to get out of the Republican vs Democrat mode as long as Trump is in office.

It’s the establishment vs the outsiders.


Still Trump should have thrown this bill back st them and forced their hand. He folded instead.

You assume that he even read the bill or could have understood it, even if he tried. This is the guy who needs his information predigested so his morning briefings take as little time as possible. He has very few people anymore who can summarize everything for him. He's on his own and he's not what you believed him to be because you never wanted to know.

[Tahuyaman]

You assume that he even read the bill or could have understood it, even if he tried. This is the guy who needs his information predigested so his morning briefings take as little time as possible. He has very few people anymore who can summarize everything for him. He's on his own and he's not what you believed him to be because you never wanted to know.

I don’t know what happened to you. There was a time you were reasonable and capable of a real discussion. Those days are gone .

[Common Sense]

I don’t know what happened to you. There was a time you were reasonable and capable of a real discussion. Those days are gone .

I remember when you said Trump was a buffoon.

Unfortunately you were right then, but have decided to abandon that truth for some strange reason.

Maybe it isn't Dr. Who who has changed...

[Tahuyaman]

I remember when you said Trump was a buffoon.

Unfortunately you were right then, but have decided to abandon that truth for some strange reason.

Maybe it isn't Dr. Who who has changed...
Obviously you haven’t read most of my comments.

[Dr. Who]

I don’t know what happened to you. There was a time you were reasonable and capable of a real discussion. Those days are gone .
I'm not the one surprised at anything that Trump does. That makes me unreasonable.

[MisterVeritis]

Wow. You're surprised that an opportunistic liberal pretending to be a conservative is trying to slip one past the American public? As someone who likes history, you should have paid attention to his history. He's an opportunist who also happens to be a liberal where it suits him and he doesn't read anything anyway, so he probably doesn't really know what's in that bill.

All I can say is, I told you so.
President Trump looked defeated. This was not him trying to slip one past us. This was a capitulation.

You told me so was incorrect. You believed it for all the wrong, illiberal reasons. This was something else.

[MisterVeritis]

I'm not the one surprised at anything that Trump does. That makes me unreasonable.
You believe what you believe out of ignorance and malice. Yes. You are unreasonable.