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Scerab
04-14-2018, 07:55 AM
Well there you have it... The blood thirsty republican terrorist organization has lead another coalition into the Middle East to kill, destroy and rape the local population. In other words TERRORIZE them...

Lets not forget the last time we were plunged into a war due to the possibility of chemical weapons in the Middle East. Indeed I am referring to the republican terrorist organization warmongering initiative in Iraq. That was the SECOND iraq war. During the first iraq war, a republican terrorist president used American soldiers as mercenaries for oil money from ruthless middle eastern absolute monarchs.

The second iraq war was responsible for the loss of approximately 3 trillion TAX DOLLARS and thousands of American soldiers killed. Thier deaths were for nothing... there were no chemical weapons, ISIS was created, debt was incurred and a republican terrorist president walked out of the White House Scott free...

now we risk even more responsibilities with the demagogue in chiefs actions. Only congress should have the power to declare military action, especially in a situation like this one, where the United States of lobbyists is not threatened. But a war with Syria could escalate into a conflict with Russia as well. I am not surprised at the republican terrorist organization complete disregard for our constitution...

Lets not forget the powerful Israeli lobbyists who relentlessly attempt to indoctrinate and bribe Us and our politicians. It is in their best interest that the surrounding middle eastern counties be left in disarray. Let’s hope that this impulsive reaction by the republican terrorist organization and its demagogue in chief will not plunge us into another war.

DGUtley
04-14-2018, 08:21 AM
I think it has been the D's that have been the primary cheerleaders for a war in Syria.

You're new here but there were chemical weapons found. That's indisputable.

Scerab
04-14-2018, 08:29 AM
I think it has been the D's that have been the primary cheerleaders for a war in Syria.

You're new here but there were chemical weapons found. That's indisputable.

obama did make it clear that using chemical weapons by The Assad regime would cross the red line threshold, which would trigger a response from our military. but if the Democrats wanted a war in Syria, why didn’t they initiate one? Maybe they are corrupt, but they are not blood thirsty terrorists...

MMC
04-14-2018, 08:35 AM
I think it has been the D's that have been the primary cheerleaders for a war in Syria.

You're new here but there were chemical weapons found. That's indisputable.

:wink:


Newspaper The Hill (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hill_(newspaper)) released a whip list with information on which Senators and Representatives had announced their support or opposition for an American military intervention in Syria.[43] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorization_for_the_Use_of_Military_Force_Agains t_the_Government_of_Syria_to_Respond_to_Use_of_Che mical_Weapons#cite_note-hillwhiplist-43) On September 9, the whip list stood at:


Yes/Leaning Yes: 31 (21 Democrats, 10 Republicans)
Undecided/Not Clear: 92 (71 Democrats, 21 Republicans)
No/Leaning No: 144 (109 Republicans, 35 Democrats)

The Washington Post (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Washington_Post) also created its own whip count of where the votes stand on Syria.[44] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorization_for_the_Use_of_Military_Force_Agains t_the_Government_of_Syria_to_Respond_to_Use_of_Che mical_Weapons#cite_note-washpostVotecount9th-44) Their count on September 13 stood at:


Yes: 25 (17 Democrats, 8 Republicans)
Undecided: 145 (111 Democrats, 34 Republicans)
Leaning No: 101 (38 Democrats, 63 Republicans)
Against: 162 (34 Democrats, 91 Republicans)

A proposed alternative bill favored by Democratic Representatives Chris Van Hollen and Gerald E. Connolly would impose restrictions on President Obama significantly tighter than the Senate bill.[32] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorization_for_the_Use_of_Military_Force_Agains t_the_Government_of_Syria_to_Respond_to_Use_of_Che mical_Weapons#cite_note-nytSplitSenatePanel-32) Under their proposal, the president would only be allowed one round of missile strikes, with possible additional strikes in the event of additional chemical weapons attacks. .....snip~


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Author...emical_Weapons (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorization_for_the_Use_of_Military_Force_Agains t_the_Government_of_Syria_to_Respond_to_Use_of_Che mical_Weapons)

DGUtley
04-14-2018, 08:44 AM
obama did make it clear that using chemical weapons by The Assad regime would cross the red line threshold, which would trigger a response from our military. but if the Democrats wanted a war in Syria, why didn’t they initiate one? Maybe they are corrupt, but they are not blood thirsty terrorists...

WMD's were found in Iraq. Ask Peter and others that were there. Your information is incorrect.

They didn't initiate one b/c the R's wouldn't give them permission to go in. Obama felt Congress needed to authorize a strike. The contention is that these isolated strikes are within the President's powers under the War Powers Act. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Powers_Resolution

Scerab
04-14-2018, 10:34 AM
:wink:


Newspaper The Hill (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hill_(newspaper)) released a whip list with information on which Senators and Representatives had announced their support or opposition for an American military intervention in Syria.[43] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorization_for_the_Use_of_Military_Force_Agains t_the_Government_of_Syria_to_Respond_to_Use_of_Che mical_Weapons#cite_note-hillwhiplist-43) On September 9, the whip list stood at:

Yes/Leaning Yes: 31 (21 Democrats, 10 Republicans)
Undecided/Not Clear: 92 (71 Democrats, 21 Republicans)
No/Leaning No: 144 (109 Republicans, 35 Democrats)
The Washington Post (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Washington_Post) also created its own whip count of where the votes stand on Syria.[44] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorization_for_the_Use_of_Military_Force_Agains t_the_Government_of_Syria_to_Respond_to_Use_of_Che mical_Weapons#cite_note-washpostVotecount9th-44) Their count on September 13 stood at:

Yes: 25 (17 Democrats, 8 Republicans)
Undecided: 145 (111 Democrats, 34 Republicans)
Leaning No: 101 (38 Democrats, 63 Republicans)
Against: 162 (34 Democrats, 91 Republicans)
A proposed alternative bill favored by Democratic Representatives Chris Van Hollen and Gerald E. Connolly would impose restrictions on President Obama significantly tighter than the Senate bill.[32] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorization_for_the_Use_of_Military_Force_Agains t_the_Government_of_Syria_to_Respond_to_Use_of_Che mical_Weapons#cite_note-nytSplitSenatePanel-32) Under their proposal, the president would only be allowed one round of missile strikes, with possible additional strikes in the event of additional chemical weapons attacks. .....snip~


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Author...emical_Weapons (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorization_for_the_Use_of_Military_Force_Agains t_the_Government_of_Syria_to_Respond_to_Use_of_Che mical_Weapons)

Supporting a bill is NOT similar to VOTING on it... put it to a vote and let’s see the results...

Peter1469
04-14-2018, 10:35 AM
Well there you have it... The blood thirsty republican terrorist organization has lead another coalition into the Middle East to kill, destroy and rape the local population. In other words TERRORIZE them...

Lets not forget the last time we were plunged into a war due to the possibility of chemical weapons in the Middle East. Indeed I am referring to the republican terrorist organization warmongering initiative in Iraq. That was the SECOND iraq war. During the first iraq war, a republican terrorist president used American soldiers as mercenaries for oil money from ruthless middle eastern absolute monarchs.

The second iraq war was responsible for the loss of approximately 3 trillion TAX DOLLARS and thousands of American soldiers killed. Thier deaths were for nothing... there were no chemical weapons, ISIS was created, debt was incurred and a republican terrorist president walked out of the White House Scott free...

now we risk even more responsibilities with the demagogue in chiefs actions. Only congress should have the power to declare military action, especially in a situation like this one, where the United States of lobbyists is not threatened. But a war with Syria could escalate into a conflict with Russia as well. I am not surprised at the republican terrorist organization complete disregard for our constitution...

Lets not forget the powerful Israeli lobbyists who relentlessly attempt to indoctrinate and bribe Us and our politicians. It is in their best interest that the surrounding middle eastern counties be left in disarray. Let’s hope that this impulsive reaction by the republican terrorist organization and its demagogue in chief will not plunge us into another war.
Vote 3rd party. Democrats and Republicans are buddies.

The Xl
04-14-2018, 10:37 AM
Fuck Trump and the Republicans, but after Obama and Clinton, they have no room to talk about warmongering.

Scerab
04-14-2018, 10:39 AM
WMD's were found in Iraq. Ask Peter and others that were there. Your information is incorrect.

They didn't initiate one b/c the R's wouldn't give them permission to go in. Obama felt Congress needed to authorize a strike. The contention is that these isolated strikes are within the President's powers under the War Powers Act. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Powers_Resolution

You can defend the second iraq war all you want. Bush little, spit, got us into a war with out a legitimate casus belli. The Iraq’s were not responsible for 9-11, the saudis were... the israelis wanted to get rid of saddam because he attacked them during the first gulf war. there were weapons chemical weapons in Iraq, but that was no reason to invade and topple the country. There is a prevailing consensus that the republican terrorist organizations initiative in Iraq was misguided and wrong. It costs us trillions of dollars and thousands of lives.

Scerab
04-14-2018, 10:40 AM
Vote 3rd party. Democrats and Republicans are buddies.
I said it many times before, I wish there was a viable third alternative... at this point I just vote for the lesser evil...

Peter1469
04-14-2018, 10:42 AM
You can defend the second iraq war all you want. Bush little, spit, got us into a war with out a legitimate casus belli. The Iraq’s were not responsible for 9-11, the saudis were... the israelis wanted to get rid of saddam because he attacked them during the first gulf war. there were weapons chemical weapons in Iraq, but that was no reason to invade and topple the country. There is a prevailing consensus that the republican terrorist organizations initiative in Iraq was misguided and wrong. It costs us trillions of dollars and thousands of lives.

If you could post like a non-loon / spit, you might contribute here.

Scerab
04-14-2018, 10:44 AM
If you could post like a non-loon / spit, you might contribute here.

Lol, thank you
i will take that as a semi-compliment...

Kalkin
04-14-2018, 10:45 AM
The blood thirsty republican terrorist organization has lead another coalition into the Middle East to kill, destroy and rape the local population.
I don't think rape is on the agenda, tbh.

MMC
04-14-2018, 10:45 AM
Supporting a bill is NOT similar to VOTING on it... put it to a vote and let’s see the results...

Newspaper The Hill (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hill_(newspaper)) released a whip list with information on which Senators and Representatives had announced their support or opposition for an American military intervention in Syria.....snip~


They publicly announced regardless of a vote. How does that play out with the Lame Stream media?

Scerab
04-14-2018, 11:00 AM
I don't think rape is on the agenda, tbh.

The republican terrorist organization initiative in Iraq lead to many local women being raped by US soldiers...

Kalkin
04-14-2018, 11:20 AM
The republican terrorist organization initiative in Iraq lead to many local women being rated by US soldiers...

Did they rate them high or low?

DGUtley
04-14-2018, 11:21 AM
The republican terrorist organization initiative in Iraq lead to many local women being rated by US soldiers...

Please provide a credible link that US Soldiers raped "many" local women in Iraq. I am aware of the one. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/feb/23/usa.iraq


Note: 1 is too many, but to suggest that rape was a regular or 'many' occurrence by US Soldiers in Iraq is incorrect. Yes, it happened. It happened, though, less than in the general population and when they were caught, they were convicted and punished.

Scerab
04-14-2018, 11:35 AM
Please provide a credible link that US Soldiers raped "many" local women in Iraq. I am aware of the one. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/feb/23/usa.iraq


Note: 1 is too many, but to suggest that rape was a regular or 'many' occurrence by US Soldiers in Iraq is incorrect. Yes, it happened. It happened, though, less than in the general population and when they were caught, they were convicted and punished.

Need I provide more evidence?

I don’t think so.

Us soldiers killed many innocent people and raped women in Iraq. The republican terrorist organization does not care for human rights, that’s why they don’t investigate these issues and that’s why the sell weapons to ruthless absolute monarchies.

Did you know how the saudis are using American made weapons? They used them to quash the Shi’a minority in their eastern provinces and in the Yemen war, killing thousands of women, children and elderly.
Obama did not sign the weapons deal but guess what was the first act of our demagogue in chief? Yup selling weapons to a ruthless dynasty that will not hesitate for a second in killing half of their population to keep their throne.

Republican terrorists cater only to money and those who have it. Poor Muslims are evil but rich ones are good, mainly good for business. God damn republican terrorist, they are an affront to humanity.

DGUtley
04-14-2018, 11:54 AM
Need I provide more evidence? I don’t think so.

Yes, you most certainly do need to provide more evidence. You made the bold statement that American Soldiers raped 'many' women in Iraq. Humans being what they are, it happened. However, I could find one incident and he and his accomplices are doing severe time. So, yes, you certainly do need to provide more evidence.

Us soldiers killed many innocent people and raped women in Iraq. The republican terrorist organization does not care for human rights, that’s why they don’t investigate these issues and that’s why the sell weapons to ruthless absolute monarchies.

You are mistaken. Read on the rules of engagement and the care that the US took in protecting civilians in Iraq.



Did you know how the saudis are using American made weapons? They used them to quash the Shi’a minority in their eastern provinces and in the Yemen war, killing thousands of women, children and elderly.

Link please.


Obama did not sign the weapons deal but guess what was the first act of our demagogue in chief? Yup selling weapons to a ruthless dynasty that will not hesitate for a second in killing half of their population to keep their throne.

You are mistaken. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-saudi-security/obama-administration-arms-sales-offers-to-saudi-top-115-billion-report-idUSKCN11D2JQ


Republican terrorists cater only to money and those who have it. Poor Muslims are evil but rich ones are good, mainly good for business. God damn republican terrorist, they are an affront to humanity.

You just regurgitate your nonsense?

Scerab
04-14-2018, 12:21 PM
Yes, you most certainly do need to provide more evidence. You made the bold statement that American Soldiers raped 'many' women in Iraq. Humans being what they are, it happened. However, I could find one incident and he and his accomplices are doing severe time. So, yes, you certainly do need to provide more evidence.


You are mistaken. Read on the rules of engagement and the care that the US took in protecting civilians in Iraq.




Link please.



You are mistaken. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-saudi-security/obama-administration-arms-sales-offers-to-saudi-top-115-billion-report-idUSKCN11D2JQ



You just regurgitate your nonsense?
On Iraqis being raped

https://www.cnn.com/2013/10/30/world/meast/iraq-prison-abuse-scandal-fast-facts/index.html

on Iraqis being killed

http://www.sanluisobispo.com/news/article39162510.html

you need proof of what Saudi is doing in Yemen? Lol ok here you go...

http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-yemen-us-arms-2017-story.html

i am not defending obama, but he attempted to hinder the Saudis acquisition of weapons as much as possible. Don’t underestimate the powerful influence of the weapon industry lobbyists...

i dont regurgitate any thing, I am simply not indoctrinated.

DGUtley
04-14-2018, 12:38 PM
On Iraqis being raped https://www.cnn.com/2013/10/30/world/meast/iraq-prison-abuse-scandal-fast-facts/index.html

Nice try. No rape in Abu Ghraib.


on Iraqis being killed

Even your own article says most allegations are proven wrong. When they are investigated and proven founded, we prosecute them.


you need proof of what Saudi is doing in Yemen? Lol ok here you go... http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-yemen-us-arms-2017-story.html

Ok. Point? The Saudis are fighting the Iranians. It's a civil war. Everybody killing everybody.


i am not defending obama, but he attempted to hinder the Saudis acquisition of weapons as much as possible. Don’t underestimate the powerful influence of the weapon industry lobbyists...

That article said he sold the most of all presidents -- that's really attempting to hinder the Saudi's acquisition of weapons. Oh, I don't underestimate the weapons industry.



i dont regurgitate any thing, I am simply not indoctrinated.
Yes, you are.

Scerab
04-14-2018, 12:56 PM
Nice try. No rape in Abu Ghraib.



Even your own article says most allegations are proven wrong. When they are investigated and proven founded, we prosecute them.



Ok. Point? The Saudis are fighting the Iranians. It's a civil war. Everybody killing everybody.



That article said he sold the most of all presidents -- that's really attempting to hinder the Saudi's acquisition of weapons. Oh, I don't underestimate the weapons industry.



Yes, you are.

Well it comes down to your definition of rape than. Sexual abuse can be considered a form of rape. The article did actually refer to some women being raped.

The allgiations on ishaqi village were proven wrong by an American enitity not an Iraqi local one. Maybe it’s symapthy for ones own? Regardless it’s one example of the horror that the American military might unleashed on the Iraqis.

Civil war or not is besides the argument. The United States of lobbyists is selling awesome weapons to a ruthless regime. This regime is using such weapons to kill innocent civilians. I said it before and I will say it again, I rather live with a Shia fundamentalist than a Sunni one any time of the day. Iran is not a terrorist state. Yes they are attempting to expand their influnace in Shia dominated regions, what’s wrong with that? Ask your self, why is America preferring to have the sunnies spread thier influence in the Middle East rather than the Shias? I will tell you why, the oil rich Sunni ruled gulf countries.

Who orchestrated and conducted 9-11? Sunnis...

who attacked Israel time and time again? Sunnies...

which sect of Islam is responsible for %99 of all terror conducted in the name of Islam? The Sunni sect...

If only we would engage in a reasonable non-violent dialogue with Iran, we will find that these people are not extremists. They are afterall a legitimate republic. We are siding with ruthless absolute monarchies in the name of democracy. Isn’t that ludicrous?

The republican terrorist organization cares only for money. They don’t want to spread democracy or improve people’s lives.

Scerab
04-14-2018, 06:16 PM
The demagogue in chief barked “mission accomplished” and “perfectly executed” yet the actual experts say that Syria’s chemical weapon capabilities and infrastructure are still at large. They also say that the Assad regime still has chemical weapons to use on his miserable population.
Bark on you mighty pigginess....

https://www.wsj.com/articles/officials-acknowledge-assad-can-still-carry-out-chemical-attacks-1523730187

donttread
04-14-2018, 07:55 PM
Please provide a credible link that US Soldiers raped "many" local women in Iraq. I am aware of the one. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/feb/23/usa.iraq


Note: 1 is too many, but to suggest that rape was a regular or 'many' occurrence by US Soldiers in Iraq is incorrect. Yes, it happened. It happened, though, less than in the general population and when they were caught, they were convicted and punished.


Nowhere topic. If it was true who was there to keep track of it and report it? Our government?

Peter1469
04-15-2018, 03:07 AM
The republican terrorist organization initiative in Iraq lead to many local women being raped by US soldiers...

Really. And you know this because you were there- a Soldier? I actually don't think you are man enough to enlist.

Scerab
04-15-2018, 06:29 AM
Really. And you know this because you were there- a Soldier? I actually don't think you are man enough to enlist.
My family has paid its dues to this country in BLOOD... we were here ever since the war of independence. Up until my grandfather who was a WW2 veteran. I did not join the army because I will not take part in a warmongering initiative by the republican terrorist organization. The soldiers who died in Iraq and are dying in Afghanistan did so for nothing... if our homeland is threatened or attached, I will be the first to answer its call...

Peter1469
04-15-2018, 08:32 AM
Democrats are also a terrorist organization, clown.

You should only be allowed to post in Rants.
Well there you have it... The blood thirsty republican terrorist organization has lead another coalition into the Middle East to kill, destroy and rape the local population. In other words TERRORIZE them...

Lets not forget the last time we were plunged into a war due to the possibility of chemical weapons in the Middle East. Indeed I am referring to the republican terrorist organization warmongering initiative in Iraq. That was the SECOND iraq war. During the first iraq war, a republican terrorist president used American soldiers as mercenaries for oil money from ruthless middle eastern absolute monarchs.

The second iraq war was responsible for the loss of approximately 3 trillion TAX DOLLARS and thousands of American soldiers killed. Thier deaths were for nothing... there were no chemical weapons, ISIS was created, debt was incurred and a republican terrorist president walked out of the White House Scott free...

now we risk even more responsibilities with the demagogue in chiefs actions. Only congress should have the power to declare military action, especially in a situation like this one, where the United States of lobbyists is not threatened. But a war with Syria could escalate into a conflict with Russia as well. I am not surprised at the republican terrorist organization complete disregard for our constitution...

Lets not forget the powerful Israeli lobbyists who relentlessly attempt to indoctrinate and bribe Us and our politicians. It is in their best interest that the surrounding middle eastern counties be left in disarray. Let’s hope that this impulsive reaction by the republican terrorist organization and its demagogue in chief will not plunge us into another war.

Scerab
04-15-2018, 10:46 AM
Democrats are also a terrorist organization, clown.

You should only be allowed to post in Rants.

Democrats are not fighting tooth and nail to put grandma out on the street. They don’t want to pull the rug from under grandma social security and Medicare... they don’t want to slash food, housing and heating assistance to low income Americans.

The republican terrorist organization and its speaker of the house have made it clear what their priorities are...take entitlements from the poor and give them to the rich. I don’t agree with the Democrats advocating for illegals nor the fact they are corrupt. But at this point in time, they are the lesser evil...

Scerab
04-15-2018, 11:00 AM
https://www.dailysabah.com/syrian-crisis/2017/04/07/heres-how-much-us-missile-attack-in-syria-cost

The republican terrorist organization and its demagogue in chief wasted our TAX dollars with this pointless raid on syria. Ever wonder how much these raids cost? Well the last one in 2017 cost approximately 90 million TAX dollars. Did it achieve any thing? Did that raid cripple the Assad’s regime chemical weapons capability?
It was all hype... the pig in chief just wanted to play with weapons aimlessly and the weapon industry lobbyists were happy to oblige... these recent attacks will costs tens of millions of TAX dollars also. Sadly the experts are already criticizing the raids as pointless and ineffective.

IS THIS HOW YOU RUN A COUNTRY?

All these republican terrorists belong in GITMO...

Kalkin
04-15-2018, 11:23 AM
Scerab is the most entertaining liberal boob to show up in a long time. I'm glad he/she/zhe/etc is here.

Peter1469
04-15-2018, 11:30 AM
https://www.dailysabah.com/syrian-crisis/2017/04/07/heres-how-much-us-missile-attack-in-syria-cost

The republican terrorist organization and its demagogue in chief wasted our TAX dollars with this pointless raid on syria. Ever wonder how much these raids cost? Well the last one in 2017 cost approximately 90 million TAX dollars. Did it achieve any thing? Did that raid cripple the Assad’s regime chemical weapons capability?
It was all hype... the pig in chief just wanted to play with weapons aimlessly and the weapon industry lobbyists were happy to oblige... these recent attacks will costs tens of millions of TAX dollars also. Sadly the experts are already criticizing the raids as pointless and ineffective.

IS THIS HOW YOU RUN A COUNTRY?

All these republican terrorists belong in GITMO...
Your (D) vote gets you the same result.

Scerab
04-15-2018, 12:43 PM
Your (D) vote gets you the same result.

At least my D vote would not have screwed me with a tax scam that favors the rich and gradually morphs into a tax hike.

Kalkin
04-15-2018, 02:13 PM
At least my D vote would have screwed me with a tax scam that favors the rich and gradually morphs into a tax hike.
Don't you like paying taxes? How else would your wealth be redistributed to those who didn't earn it?

Scerab
04-15-2018, 02:27 PM
Don't you like paying taxes? How else would your wealth be redistributed to those who didn't earn it?
Paying taxes is a logical convention, but what the republican terrorist organization did was day light robbery....
Your rhetoric is that of an indoctrinated zombie, crying out what ever your programmed with.

Kalkin
04-15-2018, 03:34 PM
Paying taxes is a logical convention, but what the republican terrorist organization did was day light robbery....
Nope. It was done legally. Try winning some elections if you want to implement your marxist ideas.

Your rhetoric is that of an indoctrinated zombie, crying out what ever your programmed with.
You English is that of an uneducated illiterate, crying out whatever will get you more of other people's money.

Scerab
04-16-2018, 06:39 AM
Nope. It was done legally. Try winning some elections if you want to implement your marxist ideas.

You English is that of an uneducated illiterate, crying out whatever will get you more of other people's money.

Your reply reflects your chasm deep ignorance. But that again you standards are worth noting to me and your ideals, I pity.

DGUtley
04-16-2018, 07:00 AM
Paying taxes is a logical convention, but what the republican terrorist organization did was day light robbery....

Why are revenues up? Exactly how much of my hard-earned income should you be able to take? I get up every day at 4:08, go to the gym, am at the office by 7:00 a.m., and am at the office most days until 6:30 pm.. I work every Saturdays and 1/3 to 1/2 Sundays. Exactly how much of my income should you be able to keep? Why should some people pay 0% and some pay 40%? Where's the equal protection in that?


Note: portions of quote omitted.

Scerab
04-16-2018, 07:45 AM
Why are revenues up? Exactly how much of my hard-earned income should you be able to take? I get up every day at 4:08, go to the gym, am at the office by 7:00 a.m., and am at the office most days until 6:30 pm.. I work every Saturdays and 1/3 to 1/2 Sundays. Exactly how much of my income should you be able to keep? Why should some people pay 0% and some pay 40%? Where's the equal protection in that?


Note: portions of quote omitted.

That’s a question you should ask the republican terrorist organization. If the last tax scam did any thing, it’s shifting the tax burden from the rich and the corporations unto the middle class, shrinking the latter even further. I don’t know which social class you identify with, but if your middle class, than the republican terrorist organization dealt you a heavy financial clout. Let’s not forget that every cent you get from the newly enacted tax cuts comes from debt. Furthermore, come 2025 your tax cut will morph into a tax hike, but the corporations will keep their cuts indefinitely.

Our tax code is often hailed as having a very progressive rate, however the many loopholes often exploited by the rich makes our tax code look more like Swiss cheese. You work very hard and pay your dues and I don’t doubt that. The billionaires, like our demagogue president, did not pay taxes for many years because they hire the best lawyers, CPAs and lobbyists in order to take advantage of our system and even skew it to their advantage.

The Governments fiscal situation is far away from being sound. Here we are amidst an economic recovery with a decent unemployment situation, although the numbers are a wee bit inflated by including the underemployed, yet we are incurring so much debt. Our deficit is ballooning without a recession or a NEW war. Heck the demagogue-in-chief did not even embark on any infrastructure development yet.

People should see this tax scam for what it really is. The bill was RUSHED through congress, lobbyists were the ones adding the lines and it will inflate the already rampant income inequality in our society. Enjoy the extra tuppence on your taxes for the next few years before it morphs into a hike. By than the republican terrorists who rushed it through our governmental branches, like a dying man being rushed through the emergency department, Would have all retired to their estates supplied to them by the Koch brothers and their ilk.

And I want to mention the inheritance tax, because no one is talking about it any more. It’s buried in the intrigue of trump, spit. What the republican terrorist organization did will create a fissure in our society between the haves and the have nots. Indeed history is cyclical, Revolution...

Kalkin
04-16-2018, 10:21 AM
Your reply reflects your chasm deep ignorance. But that again you standards are worth noting to me and your ideals, I pity.

Your every post is a projection of your own political impotence and inability to negotiate life as an independent adult. I imagine you sitting in your grandma's basement surrounded by puddles of spit...

Scerab
04-16-2018, 10:26 AM
Your every post is a projection of your own political impotence and inability to negotiate life as an independent adult. I imagine you sitting in your grandma's basement surrounded by puddles of spit...
My grandparents are deceased and I ask you not to drag them into our debate, if you can a call it that. people can have their differences and still live beside each other. It’s this lack of serenity that often causes misunderstandings and leads to conflict.

DGUtley
04-16-2018, 10:39 AM
. . . .Our tax code is often hailed as having a very progressive rate, however the many loopholes often exploited by the rich makes our tax code look more like Swiss cheese. You work very hard and pay your dues and I don’t doubt that. The billionaires, like our demagogue president, did not pay taxes for many years because they hire the best lawyers, CPAs and lobbyists in order to take advantage of our system and even skew it to their advantage. . . . .

I'm curious the top what % pay what % of the taxes? Help me out here...

The Governments fiscal situation is far away from being sound. Here we are amidst an economic recovery with a decent unemployment situation, although the numbers are a wee bit inflated by including the underemployed, yet we are incurring so much debt. Our deficit is ballooning without a recession or a NEW war. Heck the demagogue-in-chief did not even embark on any infrastructure development yet.

Yes, I agree that the deficit is a national security issue.
Note: portions omitted.

Scerab
04-16-2018, 10:48 AM
I'm curious the top what % pay what % of the taxes? Help me out here...
The top %20 pay approximately %85, and herein lies the problem. If the low and middle class had more money, that percentage would not be so skewed towards the rich. The very number you asked for proves my point. The top %1 own approximately %38 of America’s wealth.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/09/27/news/economy/inequality-record-top-1-percent-wealth/index.html

We need to cut defense spending by %50 and cut every thing else by %10. That will get us back on track in passing fiscally balanced budgets. People will be hurt by such reforms yes, but I rather feel a pinch now than live in austerity for decades...
Think about it this way, the tax cuts you are enjoying are simply you taking money from your grandchildren. They are not going to pay from them selves. Did the Reagan, spit, cuts pay for them selves?

DGUtley
04-16-2018, 11:07 AM
The top %20 pay approximately %85, and herein lies the problem. If the low and middle class had more money, that percentage would not be so skewed towards the rich. The very number you asked for proves my point. The top %1 own approximately %38 of America’s wealth.
http://money.cnn.com/2017/09/27/news/economy/inequality-record-top-1-percent-wealth/index.html
We need to cut defense spending by %50 and cut every thing else by %10. That will get us back on track in passing fiscally balanced budgets. People will be hurt by such reforms yes, but I rather feel a pinch now than live in austerity for decades...
Think about it this way, the tax cuts you are enjoying are simply you taking money from your grandchildren. They are not going to pay from them selves. Did the Reagan, spit, cuts pay for them selves?
Shame on you for using your 'spit' on Reagan, the greatest American President of my lifetime. Shame on you. I 'spit' on you. Without Reagan, PJP2 and Maggie, we'd still have the Iron Curtain. Shame on you.

We don't have a revenue problem, we have a spending problem. Reagan got lied to by congress -- he was promised spending cuts and they lied. Regardless, jobs and income went way up. We can't cut spending on defense by 50% as who would defend the world? Every time we've cut defense spending we've gotten attacked. We should audit the pentagon and eliminate redundancies and waste and cut spending across the board. None of this impacts me. I'm too old and a few percentages either way won't impact my standard of living one way or the other. It's all about my grandchildren.

Kalkin
04-16-2018, 12:11 PM
My grandparents are deceased and I ask you not to drag them into our debate, if you can a call it that. people can have their differences and still live beside each other. It’s this lack of serenity that often causes misunderstandings and leads to conflict.

Saying you post from your grandma's basement isn't "dragging them into our debate". It's an observation on your political immaturity. The only disrespect to your grandparents is your own political views, and I'm not responsible for that.

Kalkin
04-16-2018, 12:13 PM
We don't have a revenue problem, we have a spending problem.

Truer words were never spoken.

Scerab
04-16-2018, 12:22 PM
Shame on you for using your 'spit' on Reagan, the greatest American President of my lifetime. Shame on you. I 'spit' on you. Without Reagan, PJP2 and Maggie, we'd still have the Iron Curtain. Shame on you.

We don't have a revenue problem, we have a spending problem. Reagan got lied to by congress -- he was promised spending cuts and they lied. Regardless, jobs and income went way up. We can't cut spending on defense by 50% as who would defend the world? Every time we've cut defense spending we've gotten attacked. We should audit the pentagon and eliminate redundancies and waste and cut spending across the board. None of this impacts me. I'm too old and a few percentages either way won't impact my standard of living one way or the other. It's all about my grandchildren.
Reagan was a Hollywood clown whom the American people loved and voted for. He increased spending on defense significantly, dragging us even deeper into an arms race with the USSR. He also vigorously attacked unions and enacted tax cuts that caused income inequality. Congress is an independent governmental body that does not answer to the president. They can’t promise him any thing. It’s between each representative and his/her constituents.

The last time America was attacked was in WW2 by Japan, And before that by the Kaiser’s uboats in WW1. Today our defense budget is over 800 billion tax dollars and our aircraft carriers are scattered across the globe defending their nations. If we cut that by half, we would still be the biggest defense spender by far and we get to recall all of those forces to focus on defending the homeland. We can further invest in research and development so we dont lose our weapons superiority. The world today realizes that war is not a matter of manpower or weapon caches, it’s a matter of industrial might and economic stability. Only China can out do us in those two fields. That is why we need to ally with China. Let them have the south China sea if they will agree to end the North Korean regime. It’s the only way to end the Kim dynasty. Israel will need to start pulling its weight. Americans are growing more irreligious and don’t care for the hooey in the Bible anymore. Why should we waste billions of tax dollars on Israel while American kids starve and suffer homelessness... and if Europe wants to revert back to its old practices of warmongering, than let them so as long as they keep this side of the Atlantic out of it.

DGUtley
04-16-2018, 12:34 PM
Reagan was a Hollywood clown whom the American people loved and voted for. He increased spending on defense significantly, dragging us even deeper into an arms race with the USSR. He also vigorously attacked unions and enacted tax cuts that caused income inequality. Congress is an independent governmental body that does not answer to the president. They can’t promise him any thing. It’s between each representative and his/her constituents.

Reagan defeated the Soviet Union without a shot and brought freedom to Eastern Europe. Your knowledge of history is disappointing. Reagan was promised a cut in spending.


The last time America was attacked was in WW2 by Japan, And before that by the Kaiser’s uboats in WW1. Today our defense budget is over 800 billion tax dollars and our aircraft carriers are scattered across the globe defending their nations. If we cut that by half, we would still be the biggest defense spender by far and we get to recall all of those forces to focus on defending the homeland. We can further invest in research and development so we dont lose our weapons superiority. The world today realizes that war is not a matter of manpower or weapon caches, it’s a matter of industrial might and economic stability. Only China can out do us in those two fields. That is why we need to ally with China. Let them have the south China sea if they will agree to end the North Korean regime. It’s the only way to end the Kim dynasty. Israel will need to start pulling its weight. Americans are growing more irreligious and don’t care for the hooey in the Bible anymore. Why should we waste billions of tax dollars on Israel while American kids starve and suffer homelessness... and if Europe wants to revert back to its old practices of warmongering, than let them so as long as they keep this side of the Atlantic out of it.

You ask why?
23353

Scerab
04-16-2018, 02:44 PM
Reagan defeated the Soviet Union without a shot and brought freedom to Eastern Europe. Your knowledge of history is disappointing. Reagan was promised a cut in spending.



You ask why?
23353

Oh, it seems I will have to give you solid reasons why Reagan was a terrible president.

1- he enacted tax cuts that favored the rich and burdened the middle class, inflating income inequality.

2- he tripled the national debt from 900 billion when he came into office to 2.8 trillion when he left it. Good riddance...

3- he supplied the Nicaragua rebels with money and weapons indirectly and tried to hide the scandal but he was exposed like the scum bag he is.

4- this photo of 9/11 you posted is so ironic. Was it not Reagan who funded and supported jihad during the 80s? THIS GOD DAMN DISGUSTING REPUBLICAN TERRORIST FUNDED OSAMA BIN LADEN AND THE TALIBAN. See why I refer to the reds as the republican terrorist organization?

5- Reagan, spit, attacked work unions and led to the relocation of many high paying middle class jobs abroad. He increased the actual unemployment. The jobs created during his tenure were like the ones the republican terrorist organization is celebrating today, low paying gigs. There was also an increase in college tuition fees during his tenure, further screwing middle class Americans... it’s after his horrid tenure that the middle class started to lag behind. He did his best to undo everything the GREAT FDR had accomplished.

6- this red president is typical in his bigotry towards homosexuals. He completely ignored the HIV/AIDS epidemic that was sweeping across the nation. Many died because of this inhuman mutts contempt for human life.

I could go on but I am nauseated and don’t want to vomit.

Kalkin
04-16-2018, 03:06 PM
1- he enacted tax cuts that favored the rich and burdened the middle class, inflating income inequality.
That's a good thing. The wealthy were paying more than their share even after those cuts.

2- he doubled the national debt from 900 billion when he came into office to 2.8 trillion when he left it. Good riddance...
Debt is bad. Almost as bad as your math. 2x9=28?


3- he supplied the Nicaragua rebels with money and weapons indirectly and tried to hide the scandal but he was exposed like the scum bag he is.
He got things done. You may not like it, but you don't seem to like anything that rational people understand.

4- this photo of 9/11 you posted is so ironic. Was it not Reagan who funded and supported jihad during the 80s? THIS GOD DAMN DISGUSTING REPUBLICAN TERRORIST FUNDED OSAMA BIN LADEN AND THE TALIBAN. See why I refer to the reds as the republican terrorist organization?
Sometimes the enemy of your enemy is a temporary ally. Study more history from unbiased sources and you'll know the why, not just the what.


5- Reagan, spit, attacked work unions and led to the relocation of many high paying middle class jobs abroad. He increased the actual unemployment. The jobs created during his tenure were like the ones the republican terrorist organization is celebrating today, low paying gigs. There was also an increase in college tuition fees during his tenure, further screwing middle class Americans... it’s after his horrid tenure that the middle class started to lag behind. He did his best to undo everything the GREAT FDR had accomplished.
He didn't go far enough erasing the damage that communist pig FDR inflicted upon freedom and liberty.



6- this red president is typical in his bigotry towards homosexuals. He completely ignored the HIV/AIDS epidemic that was sweeping across the nation. Many died because of this inhuman mutts contempt for human life.

The federal government has no business getting into the AIDS-prevention racket. You know what works every time? Abstinence.


I could go on but I am nauseated and don’t want to vomit.
Too late, you just did, verbally.

Scerab
04-16-2018, 03:20 PM
That's a good thing. The wealthy were paying more than their share even after those cuts.

Debt is bad. Almost as bad as your math. 2x9=28?


He got things done. You may not like it, but you don't seem to like anything that rational people understand.

Sometimes the enemy of your enemy is a temporary ally. Study more history from unbiased sources and you'll know the why, not just the what.


He didn't go far enough erasing the damage that communist pig FDR inflicted upon freedom and liberty.


The federal government has no business getting into the AIDS-prevention racket. You know what works every time? Abstinence.


Too late, you just did, verbally.

First left me correct the mathematical error, I meant to say “tripled”. Now on to your comments.
spoken like a true terrorist. The smarmy republican terrorist organization, supports Islam when that suits its interests. But now the republican terrorist organization is all out against Islam, despite the fact that we are aiding the actual orchestrators of 9-11, the Saudis.
This Reagan pig, SPIT, helped rebels kill many people and gave osama bin laden and the taliban the ammunition they needed to kill more than 3000 Americans in New York on 9-11. This lead to bush little, spit, plunging us into two pointless wars, that incurred trillions of dollars, spilled American blood and created ISIS.

IS THIS HOW YOU RUN A COUNTRY? GOD DAMN THE REPUBLICAN TERRORIST ORGANIZATION...

DGUtley
04-16-2018, 03:35 PM
First left me correct the mathematical error, I meant to say “tripled”. Now on to your comments.
spoken like a true terrorist. The smarmy republican terrorist organization, supports Islam when that suits its interests. But now the republican terrorist organization is all out against Islam, despite the fact that we are aiding the actual orchestrators of 9-11, the Saudis.
This Reagan pig, SPIT, helped rebels kill many people and gave osama bin laden and the taliban the ammunition they needed to kill more than 3000 Americans in New York on 9-11. This lead to bush little, spit, plunging us into two pointless wars, that incurred trillions of dollars, spilled American blood and created ISIS.

IS THIS HOW YOU RUN A COUNTRY? GOD DAMN THE REPUBLICAN TERRORIST ORGANIZATION...
Reagan was the greatest President of my lifetime. There was no other greater leader in my lifetime, no other leader responsible for bringing peace and prosperity to more people. Perfect? No.

As with so much, you are mistaken about Reagan and Aids. In dealing with AIDS, Reagan did what he so often did well—he appointed people who shared his political convictions but could be relied on to make sound decisions based on apolitical facts and solid science. These appointees framed and announced such decisions in ways that would not result in politically polarizing efforts—in this case, efforts to fight a disease that disproportionately afflicted the gay community. To begin with, Reagan appointed Dr. C. Everett Koop as surgeon general. When Koop addressed the public about AIDS, he declared: “This is a battle against the disease, not our fellow Americans.” And as the Washington Post noted shortly after his death in 2013, Koop was an “unsung hero” and “a pivotal figure” who saved many lives by persuading key members of Congress to set aside their hostility to the gay community and focus on the broader threat that the contagious disease presented. More important, both of the two Food and Drug Administration (FDA) commissioners Reagan appointed during his presidential tenure were doctors who made the right calls in leading the assault on AIDS. As the policies they implemented would demonstrate, both understood that doctors could play an invaluable role in getting the right drugs into patients to beat this dreadful new disease. This marked the beginning of an important learning process that has recently resurfaced. The future of molecular medicine now depends largely on our willingness to give today’s doctors as much flexibility and responsibility as was given to doctors engaged in the early battle against AIDS. https://www.city-journal.org/html/ronald-reagans-quiet-war-aids-14783.html

Reagan opposed the Taliban.

If the D's hadn't lied to Dutch on spending, we wouldn't be in the mess we are in today. Cut spending.

Scerab
04-16-2018, 04:27 PM
Reagan was the greatest President of my lifetime. There was no other greater leader in my lifetime, no other leader responsible for bringing peace and prosperity to more people. Perfect? No.

As with so much, you are mistaken about Reagan and Aids. In dealing with AIDS, Reagan did what he so often did well—he appointed people who shared his political convictions but could be relied on to make sound decisions based on apolitical facts and solid science. These appointees framed and announced such decisions in ways that would not result in politically polarizing efforts—in this case, efforts to fight a disease that disproportionately afflicted the gay community. To begin with, Reagan appointed Dr. C. Everett Koop as surgeon general. When Koop addressed the public about AIDS, he declared: “This is a battle against the disease, not our fellow Americans.” And as the Washington Post noted shortly after his death in 2013, Koop was an “unsung hero” and “a pivotal figure” who saved many lives by persuading key members of Congress to set aside their hostility to the gay community and focus on the broader threat that the contagious disease presented. More important, both of the two Food and Drug Administration (FDA) commissioners Reagan appointed during his presidential tenure were doctors who made the right calls in leading the assault on AIDS. As the policies they implemented would demonstrate, both understood that doctors could play an invaluable role in getting the right drugs into patients to beat this dreadful new disease. This marked the beginning of an important learning process that has recently resurfaced. The future of molecular medicine now depends largely on our willingness to give today’s doctors as much flexibility and responsibility as was given to doctors engaged in the early battle against AIDS. https://www.city-journal.org/html/ronald-reagans-quiet-war-aids-14783.html

Reagan opposed the Taliban.

If the D's hadn't lied to Dutch on spending, we wouldn't be in the mess we are in today. Cut spending.
I apologize for offending your person but not your faith. Christianity caused unmeasurable human suffrage for me to respect it.

Look at the facts, look at the statistics. Reagan ignored the HIV epidemic, which predominantly affteced homosexuals, due to his ideals. He waited until 1985 to declare it a health crisis, after 5000 homosexual Americans were killed from it. This is the true colors of the republican terrorist organization.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/11/reagan-administration-response-to-aids-crisis

as for his rapport with the taliban, it’s fact... how can he not support them yet supply them with weapons. Just admit that your infatuated by his acting, it’s ok. He was a good clown but not a good president. This television box certainly has a power to indoctrinate Americans more than any one else in the world.

http://www.businessinsider.com/reagan-freedom-fighters-taliban-foreign-policy-2013-2

The republican terrorist organization breeds terror where ever it treads. Osama bin laden was one such example and ISIS is a second example.

Kalkin
04-16-2018, 06:03 PM
First left me correct the mathematical error, I meant to say “tripled”. Now on to your comments.
spoken like a true terrorist. The smarmy republican terrorist organization, supports Islam when that suits its interests. But now the republican terrorist organization is all out against Islam, despite the fact that we are aiding the actual orchestrators of 9-11, the Saudis.
This Reagan pig, SPIT, helped rebels kill many people and gave osama bin laden and the taliban the ammunition they needed to kill more than 3000 Americans in New York on 9-11. This lead to bush little, spit, plunging us into two pointless wars, that incurred trillions of dollars, spilled American blood and created ISIS.

IS THIS HOW YOU RUN A COUNTRY? GOD DAMN THE REPUBLICAN TERRORIST ORGANIZATION...
Here are some more facts for you.
As a percentage of GDP, the top two debt presidents were FDR and obama:
http://s3.amazonaws.com/content.washingtonexaminer.biz/web-producers/021615PresidentsDayDebt.jpg
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/how-much-debt-did-each-president-leave-for-the-country


Or perhaps you prefer real numbers instead of percentages:
http://www.lsconservative.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/AnnualDebtIncreaseByPresident.jpg
http://www.lsconservative.com/obamas-economic-grade-f/
https://jobenomicsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/National-Debt-1-768x358.jpg
https://jobenomicsblog.com/trumps-first-budget/
As you can easily see, Reagan increased the debt by 1.7 trillion dollars. That was a bad thing, but it pales in comparison to obama's whopping 9.3 trillion increase. Note the Trump budget that is bending the curve downwards from the obama trajectory. Next.

Scerab
04-16-2018, 06:05 PM
Here are some more facts for you.
As a percentage of GDP, the top two debt presidents were FDR and obama:
http://s3.amazonaws.com/content.washingtonexaminer.biz/web-producers/021615PresidentsDayDebt.jpg
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/how-much-debt-did-each-president-leave-for-the-country


Or perhaps you prefer real numbers instead of percentages:
http://www.lsconservative.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/AnnualDebtIncreaseByPresident.jpg
http://www.lsconservative.com/obamas-economic-grade-f/
https://jobenomicsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/National-Debt-1-768x358.jpg
https://jobenomicsblog.com/trumps-first-budget/
As you can easily see, Reagan increased the debt by 1.7 trillion dollars. That was a bad thing, but it pales in comparison to obama's whopping 9.3 trillion increase. Note the Trump budget that is bending the curve downwards from the obama trajectory. Next.

FDR had the Great Depression...

Obama had the Great Recession...

Refute that, I dare you...

doing something is better than watching american children suffer starvation and die of the cold, like what Hoover, may be rest in pain, was responsible for.

Kalkin
04-16-2018, 06:08 PM
FDR had the Great Depression...

Obama had the Great Recession...

Refute that, I dare you...

Circumstances don't change facts, and the facts are, your shitty party has the record for debt accumulation, percentage-wise and in actual dollars. You can make excuses all day long and nothing will have changed.

Scerab
04-16-2018, 06:12 PM
Circumstances don't change facts, and the facts are, your shitty party has the record for debt accumulation, percentage-wise and in actual dollars. You can make excuses all day long and nothing will have changed.
Lol typical republican terrorist. Hoover did nothing during the Great Depression... many a child suffered and died. You people are terrorists...

FDR also had to contend with WW2... a war that WE did not start. Unlike Eisenhower, Spit, and the Bushs, double spit. Smarmy republican terrorists...

Kalkin
04-16-2018, 06:42 PM
Lol typical republican terrorist.
Lulz. Typical alinsky drone.

Hoover did nothing during the Great Depression... many a child suffered and died.
Your emo diversions don't change any of the facts I posted regarding the debt. Try to stay on track, please.

You people are terrorists...
The broken record impersonation you do with this phrase is more telling of your personal deficiencies than mine.


FDR also had to contend with WW2... a war that WE did not start.
Irrelevant.

Unlike Eisenhower, Spit, and the Bushs, double spit. Smarmy republican terrorists...
Childish blather.

donttread
04-16-2018, 08:17 PM
I apologize for offending your person but not your faith. Christianity caused unmeasurable human suffrage for me to respect it.

Look at the facts, look at the statistics. Reagan ignored the HIV epidemic, which predominantly affteced homosexuals, due to his ideals. He waited until 1985 to declare it a health crisis, after 5000 homosexual Americans were killed from it. This is the true colors of the republican terrorist organization.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/11/reagan-administration-response-to-aids-crisis

as for his rapport with the taliban, it’s fact... how can he not support them yet supply them with weapons. Just admit that your infatuated by his acting, it’s ok. He was a good clown but not a good president. This television box certainly has a power to indoctrinate Americans more than any one else in the world.

http://www.businessinsider.com/reagan-freedom-fighters-taliban-foreign-policy-2013-2

The republican terrorist organization breeds terror where ever it treads. Osama bin laden was one such example and ISIS is a second example.


Organized religion is just closet politics

Scerab
04-17-2018, 08:02 AM
Organized religion is just closet politics
Organized religion could be defined in various ways, but it could not be absolved from the atrocities it orchestrated or executed. Religion was an integral part of the human journey until a certain point. Once it was thought that religion developed after agriculture was established, but recent archaeological discoveries in turkey among other locations is challenging that understanding. Göbekli tepe was constructed before the agricultural revolution started in the Fertile Crescent of the Middle East. This means that a hunter gather civilization had built the awesome temples of göbekli tepe. So the order of things might have changed. It could be that religion was the force that got early humans together in one location and enabled them to discover and develop the art of agriculture. Religion was organized later on to suppress and subdue humans. Than it morphed into a killing and torture machine.

Mini Me
04-19-2018, 08:45 PM
Truer words were never spoken.

Now we have a major DEFICIT problem! Thanks, TRump and GOP "conservatives'!

Kalkin
04-19-2018, 09:09 PM
Now we have a major DEFICIT problem! Thanks, TRump and GOP "conservatives'!

You make it sound as if we didn't previously have a major debt/deficit problem, regardless of who controls the government. Vote Libertarian if you really want a change from fiscal irresponsibility.

Mini Me
04-19-2018, 09:09 PM
Here are some more facts for you.
As a percentage of GDP, the top two debt presidents were FDR and obama:
http://s3.amazonaws.com/content.washingtonexaminer.biz/web-producers/021615PresidentsDayDebt.jpg
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/how-much-debt-did-each-president-leave-for-the-country


Or perhaps you prefer real numbers instead of percentages:
http://www.lsconservative.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/AnnualDebtIncreaseByPresident.jpg
http://www.lsconservative.com/obamas-economic-grade-f/
https://jobenomicsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/National-Debt-1-768x358.jpg
https://jobenomicsblog.com/trumps-first-budget/
As you can easily see, Reagan increased the debt by 1.7 trillion dollars. That was a bad thing, but it pales in comparison to obama's whopping 9.3 trillion increase. Note the Trump budget that is bending the curve downwards from the obama trajectory. Next.

That 1.7 trillion by Reagan is almost equivalent to what Obama's debt was now, when you factor in inflation.
And now Trump is the new debt king!

Son, you were REAGANIZED! The Rethugs came up with the Reagan Myth, because they had no presidents of which they could be proud of. And you bought into it! You were gut hooked by propaganda, as are all Rethugs!

You need to go to a cult reprograming class, and if that fails, try a lobotomy.
We will prey for you!

Kalkin
04-19-2018, 09:11 PM
That 1.7 trillion by Reagan is almost equivalent to what Obama's debt was now, when you factor in inflation.
Are you seriously contending that the dollar is worth about 1/4 of what it was in 1988? Math.

And now Trump is the new debt king!
No, obama still wears that crown. Again, math.

Son, you were REAGANIZED!
No, mom, I wasn't.

The Rethugs came up with the Reagan Myth, because they had no presidents of which they could be proud of. And you bought into it! You were gut hooked by propaganda, as are all Rethugs!
You're really quite clueless, aren't you. lol.

You need to go to a cult reprograming class, and if that fails, try a lobotomy.
You need to go to an assholes anonymous meeting, obviously.

We will prey for you!
The day a bent wrist lib considers me prey is the day hell freezes over and you admit that Reagan was your idol.

donttread
04-20-2018, 06:15 AM
That 1.7 trillion by Reagan is almost equivalent to what Obama's debt was now, when you factor in inflation.
And now Trump is the new debt king!

Son, you were REAGANIZED! The Rethugs came up with the Reagan Myth, because they had no presidents of which they could be proud of. And you bought into it! You were gut hooked by propaganda, as are all Rethugs!

You need to go to a cult reprograming class, and if that fails, try a lobotomy.
We will prey for you!




It's simply not OK to spend more than you take in 17 years in a row.