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Ivan88
12-24-2012, 01:45 PM
On 5 March, Lincoln received a report from Major Anderson at Fort Sumpter stating that he could not hold out and the only issue would be getting his men out safely.

"Thus baffled with regard to Fort Sumter (http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/entityvote?doc=Perseus:text:2001.05.0066:chapter=3 4:page=556&auth=tgn,7013582&n=3&type=place), the Administration had resolved to reenforce and provision Fort Pickens, Fla. (http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/entityvote?doc=Perseus:text:2001.05.0066:chapter=3 4:page=556&auth=tgn,7021610&n=1&type=place),
simply as an indication of its purpose to maintain, in the South, the constitutional rights of the Government; and had dispatched the steamship Brooklyn to Pensacola (http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/entityvote?doc=Perseus:text:2001.05.0066:chapter=3 4:page=556&auth=tgn,7013972&n=1&type=place) for that purpose; but had been defeated in its effort, because
the officer commanding the Sabine, to which vessel the troops had been transferred from the Brooklyn, acting upon some quasiarmistice of the late Administration (and of the existence of which the present Administration, up to the time the order was dispatched, had only too vague and uncertain rumors to fix attention), had refused to land the troops.

The news of this failure reached Washington (http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/entityvote?doc=Perseus:text:2001.05.0066:chapter=3 4:page=556&auth=tgn,7013962&n=1&type=place) “just one week before the fall of Sumter (http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/entityvote?doc=Perseus:text:2001.05.0066:chapter=3 4:page=556&auth=tgn,7013582&n=4&type=place);” and thereupon the President proceeded at once to notify Gov.Pickens (http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/entityvote?doc=Perseus:text:2001.05.0066:chapter=3 4:page=556&auth=pickens,francis,w.&n=1&type=person), of South Carolina (http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/entityvote?doc=Perseus:text:2001.05.0066:chapter=3 4:page=556&auth=tgn,7007712&n=1&type=place), that he should provision Fort Sumter (http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/entityvote?doc=Perseus:text:2001.05.0066:chapter=3 4:page=556&auth=tgn,7013582&n=5&type=place). “Whereupon, the fort was attacked and bombarded to its fall, without even awaiting. the arrival of the provisioning expedition.” page 556 American Conflict, Horace Greeley

Guess who ordered the attack on Forth Sumpter?

By the 6th or 7th of April, ... Lieut. Talbot (http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/entityvote?doc=Perseus:text:2001.05.0066:chapter=2 8:page=443&auth=talbot&n=1&type=person), who had arrived at Washington (http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/entityvote?doc=Perseus:text:2001.05.0066:chapter=2 8:page=443&auth=tgn,7013962&n=1&type=place) on the 6th, from Fort Sumter (http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/entityvote?doc=Perseus:text:2001.05.0066:chapter=2 8:page=443&auth=tgn,7013582&n=1&type=place), bearing a message from Major Anderson (http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/entityvote?doc=Perseus:text:2001.05.0066:chapter=2 8:page=443&auth=anderson,robert&n=1&type=person) that his rigidly restricted supplies of fresh food from Charleston market had been cut off by the Confederate authorities, and that he must soon be starved into surrender, if not relieved, returned to Charleston (http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/entityvote?doc=Perseus:text:2001.05.0066:chapter=2 8:page=443&auth=tgn,7013582&n=2&type=place) on the 8th, and gave formal notice toGov. Pickens (http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/entityvote?doc=Perseus:text:2001.05.0066:chapter=2 8:page=443&auth=pickens,francis,w.&n=1&type=person) that the fort would be provisioned at all hazards.

Gen. Beauregard (http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/entityvote?doc=Perseus:text:2001.05.0066:chapter=2 8:page=443&auth=beauregard,g.,t.&n=1&type=person) immediately telegraphed the fact to Montgomery (http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/entityvote?doc=Perseus:text:2001.05.0066:chapter=2 8:page=443&auth=montgomery&n=1&type=person); and, on the 10th, received orders from the Confederate Secretary of War to demand the prompt surrender of the fort, and, in case of refusal, to reduce it.

The demand was accordingly made in due form at 2 P. M., on the 11th, and courteously declined. But, in consequence of additional instructions from Montgomery (http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/entityvote?doc=Perseus:text:2001.05.0066:chapter=2 8:page=443&auth=montgomery&n=2&type=person) — based on a suggestion of Major Anderson (http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/entityvote?doc=Perseus:text:2001.05.0066:chapter=2 8:page=443&auth=anderson,robert&n=2&type=person) to his summoners that he would very soon be starved out, if not relieved
--Gen.Beauregard (http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/entityvote?doc=Perseus:text:2001.05.0066:chapter=2 8:page=443&auth=beauregard,g.,t.&n=2&type=person), at 11 P. M., again addressed Major Anderson (http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/entityvote?doc=Perseus:text:2001.05.0066:chapter=2 8:page=443&auth=anderson,robert&n=3&type=person), asking him to state at what time he would evacuate Fort Sumter (http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/entityvote?doc=Perseus:text:2001.05.0066:chapter=2 8:page=443&auth=tgn,7013582&n=3&type=place), if unmolested;
and was answered that he would do so at noon on the 15th, “should I not receive, prior to that time, controlling instructions from my Government, or additional supplies.” This answer was judged unsatisfactory; and, at 3:20 A. M., of the 12th, Major Anderson (http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/entityvote?doc=Perseus:text:2001.05.0066:chapter=2 8:page=443&auth=anderson,robert&n=4&type=person) was duly notified that fire would be opened on Fort Sumter (http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/entityvote?doc=Perseus:text:2001.05.0066:chapter=2 8:page=443&auth=tgn,7013582&n=4&type=place) in one hour.
Page 443, Chapter 28
American Conflict, Horace Greeley

Who was the Confederate Secretary of War?
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Judah Philip Benjamin,
Following the formation of the Confederate States of America (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederate_States_of_America) in 1861, he was appointed by President Jefferson Davis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Davis) to three different Cabinet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabinet_(government)) posts in his administration. Benjamin was the first Jewish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jew) appointee to a Cabinet position in a North American government, and the first Jewish American to be seriously considered for nomination to the U.S. Supreme Court (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Supreme_Court) (he twice declined offers of nomination). Following his relocation to the United Kingdom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom), he became a distinguished barrister (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrister)and was selected in 1872 as Queen's Counsel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen%27s_Counsel).
Wikipedia

Peter1469
12-24-2012, 03:16 PM
Would the story be any different if he were not Jewish?

Ivan88
12-29-2012, 03:06 PM
Would the story be any different if he were not Jewish?
What are you suggesting?

The Wikipedia article mis-uses the word Jew.
A Jew is one who follows Christ. Romans 2:28-29

So if Judah Philip Benjamin were a follower of Christ, he would not have ordered the bombardment of Fort Sumpter.
The Southern States had peacefully withdrawn from USA, and peacefully resolving the Fort Sumpter issue was the proper way.

But Judah Philip Benjamin was a follower of the Talmud. He was an anti-Christ and was working in harmony with those who wanted a war between the American states. He made sure that Lincoln had a pretext to start his Communist Revolution.

Gen. Beauregard could have refused to start the war. http://www.sonofthesouth.net/leefoundation/Jefferson_Davis/General_P_G_T_Beauregard_small1.jpg
Following the order to attack Fort Sumpter was his worst decision.

Peter1469
12-29-2012, 03:30 PM
What are you suggesting?

The Wikipedia article mis-uses the word Jew.
A Jew is one who follows Christ. Romans 2:28-29

So if Judah Philip Benjamin were a follower of Christ, he would not have ordered the bombardment of Fort Sumpter.
The Southern States had peacefully withdrawn from USA, and peacefully resolving the Fort Sumpter issue was the proper way.

But Judah Philip Benjamin was a follower of the Talmud. He was an anti-Christ and was working in harmony with those who wanted a war between the American states. He made sure that Lincoln had a pretext to start his Communist Revolution.

Gen. Beauregard could have refused to start the war. http://www.sonofthesouth.net/leefoundation/Jefferson_Davis/General_P_G_T_Beauregard_small1.jpg
Following the order to attack Fort Sumpter was his worst decision.

Communist Revolution? :shocked:

Mister D
12-29-2012, 03:31 PM
Wtf?