This Is What Deranged Conservative Christians Want To Teach Your Children

[Agent Zero]

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[Mister D]

You sound a lot like that homo howie and leekohler2. :grin:

[Agent Zero]

who??

[Mister D]

who??
Some fag from Chicago. Never mind. He might have died from AIDS by now.

[Peter1469]

Please place threads in the proper forum. This should be in rants or perhaps the pub.

[Captdon]

We need a common sense course as part of training for federal jobs. We really, really do. Here's a topic about nothing.

[donttread]

Some fag from Chicago. Never mind. He might have died from AIDS by now.


Nice.

[Chris]

who??

Howie was a troll.

[HawkTheSlayer]

Howie was a troll.
Howie still is a troll everywhere he shows up :smiley_ROFLMAO:

[Tahuyaman]

This Is What Deranged Conservative Christians Want To Teach Your Children


Conservative christians want their kids to be educated about all theories concerning the the origin of the earth, mankind and the animal kingdom.

[Tahuyaman]

Howie was a troll.

No worse than a few people who are still here.

[Grokmaster]

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Please explain how humans share NO MITOCHONDRIAL DNA with any other primate, but ALL HUMANS DO share mitochondrial DNA from a SINGLE , FEMALE SOURCE?

Then explain how humans share NO Y-CHROMOSOMAL DNA with any other primates, but ALL human males share y-chromosomal DNA from a SINGLE MALE SOURCE...which PREDATES the female universal mitochondrial DNA source.

Wow....some amazing coincidences there, huh? :cool2:

[spunkloaf]

The significant different between religion and science:

Take them both away from humans. Completely eradicate them from our experience.

In a few hundred years, science will return in its exact form, because it is derived directly from experience and observation of nature. In other words, science is written in nature itself.

Religion will never return in its current form, because it comes from old texts written by humans.

[jimmyz]

Question for the OP... If you are an anti-religious secular parent how in the heck would the "Deranged Conservative Christians" ever be able to teach your children anything without your participation?

[RadioGod]

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LOL! Here's another problem. The same nuts think the earth is only 4,000 to 6,000 years old. Here is a link to 13,000 year old footprints cited by Fox News, which is as credible to the same christians as an additional book in the new testament.
http://www.foxnews.com/science/2018/03/29/oldest-human-footprints-in-north-america-suggests-early-entrance-into-americas.html

[RadioGod]

Please explain how humans share NO MITOCHONDRIAL DNA with any other primate, but ALL HUMANS DO share mitochondrial DNA from a SINGLE , FEMALE SOURCE?

Then explain how humans share NO Y-CHROMOSOMAL DNA with any other primates, but ALL human males share y-chromosomal DNA from a SINGLE MALE SOURCE...which PREDATES the female universal mitochondrial DNA source.

Wow....some amazing coincidences there, huh? :cool2:

I will have a go at this one. They say we share 97% of our genome with chimpanzees. After unserious consideration for a few brief seconds, it dawned on me that some ancient Trump supporter mistook the voluptuous backside of a chimpanzee for that of a has-been porn star, and in one fell swoop, ruined the gene pool for all of us. The resulting offspring was a mentally challenged orange humanoid hybrid woman, and unfortunately that is who we are all descended from. We are still trying to regain our intelligent position in this world to this day, albeit unsucessfully.

[Abby08]

I will have a go at this one. They say we share 97% of our genome with chimpanzees. After unserious consideration for a few brief seconds, it dawned on me that some ancient Trump supporter mistook the voluptuous backside of a chimpanzee for that of a has-been porn star, and in one fell swoop, ruined the gene pool for all of us. The resulting offspring was a mentally challenged orange humanoid hybrid woman, and unfortunately that is who we are all descended from. We are still trying to regain our intelligent position in this world to this day, albeit unsucessfully.

That voluptuous backside, was Michelle Obama's great grandmother.

[RadioGod]

That voluptuous backside, was Michelle Obama's great grandmother.

I'll let you take the heat for that one:)

[Abby08]

I'll let you take the heat for that one:)

Lol.....sure thing!

[donttread]

Conservative christians want their kids to be educated about all theories concerning the the origin of the earth, mankind and the animal kingdom.


There is no evidence to support creationism in it's literal form. Christians are free to teach such theory in their own schools.

[RadioGod]

It is true that scientists have never found the real "missing link" that shows how early man evolved into modern man. There are definitely signs of evolutions, though, in the early man. Unless those were just different species that coexisted all along. I'm no genetisist. I have read that modern man and neaderthals interbred a bit, and that white people from europe actually carry more leftover neaderthal dna than other races.
I also tend to somewhat disagree with Darwin's evolution, but only in the sense that I don't think there was a single origin for life, and all life evolved and branched out from that. For example, if we descended from apes over millions of years, why are there still apes? I think that instead of a single orign somewhere in the past, new origins happen almost every day, and living things follow similar evolutionary paths because of similar conditions. This would make it possible for apes and humans to be here together at the same time.
I don't believe in God, or fairies, or leprechauns, or angels. And the story of Noah is a watered down Sumerian story, which is far more detailed. But the premise of the Sumerian version was that "gods", that were more like advanced people, kick started the human race from more primitive humanoids on earth mixed with their own dna. I can find this more plausible, I'm far more likely to believe in aliens than in a God. And it would tend towards filling in gaps in the fossil record. Depending on who's counting, the creation of people could be anywhere from 20,000 to 250,000 years ago.
The other thing about Noah's story I don't like is he put 2 of each animal of the earth on the ark. If I am confined to even a relatively large part of the earth, there is no way possible for me to collect 2 of each animal from the entire planet. And I see way too much diversity for it all to have developed in the last 4,000 years since Noah's supposed time. Unless you throw in some crazy evolution. But even then, some of the animals around today are in the fossil record and they have a lineage almost unchanged for millions of years. I truly don't know what to believe, but I know 100% God doesn't factor into it.

[Grokmaster]

LOL! Here's another problem. The same nuts think the earth is only 4,000 to 6,000 years old. Here is a link to 13,000 year old footprints cited by Fox News, which is as credible to the same christians as an additional book in the new testament.
http://www.foxnews.com/science/2018/03/29/oldest-human-footprints-in-north-america-suggests-early-entrance-into-americas.html

I'm sure no one noticed your COMPLETE FAILURE to address the questions I raised with your lameass Straw Man.

I never said a thing about the geological age of the planet.

I DID say this:


Please explain how humans share NO MITOCHONDRIAL DNA with any other primate, but ALL HUMANS DO share mitochondrial DNA from a SINGLE , FEMALE SOURCE?

Then explain how humans share NO Y-CHROMOSOMAL DNA with any other primates, but ALL human males share y-chromosomal DNA from a SINGLE MALE SOURCE...which PREDATES the female universal mitochondrial DNA source.

[Grokmaster]

It is true that scientists have never found the real "missing link" that shows how early man evolved into modern man. There are definitely signs of evolutions, though, in the early man. Unless those were just different species that coexisted all along. I'm no genetisist. I have read that modern man and neaderthals interbred a bit, and that white people from europe actually carry more leftover neaderthal dna than other races.
I also tend to somewhat disagree with Darwin's evolution, but only in the sense that I don't think there was a single origin for life, and all life evolved and branched out from that. For example, if we descended from apes over millions of years, why are there still apes? I think that instead of a single orign somewhere in the past, new origins happen almost every day, and living things follow similar evolutionary paths because of similar conditions. This would make it possible for apes and humans to be here together at the same time.
I don't believe in God, or fairies, or leprechauns, or angels. And the story of Noah is a watered down Sumerian story, which is far more detailed. But the premise of the Sumerian version was that "gods", that were more like advanced people, kick started the human race from more primitive humanoids on earth mixed with their own dna. I can find this more plausible, I'm far more likely to believe in aliens than in a God. And it would tend towards filling in gaps in the fossil record. Depending on who's counting, the creation of people could be anywhere from 20,000 to 250,000 years ago.
The other thing about Noah's story I don't like is he put 2 of each animal of the earth on the ark. If I am confined to even a relatively large part of the earth, there is no way possible for me to collect 2 of each animal from the entire planet. And I see way too much diversity for it all to have developed in the last 4,000 years since Noah's supposed time. Unless you throw in some crazy evolution. But even then, some of the animals around today are in the fossil record and they have a lineage almost unchanged for millions of years. I truly don't know what to believe, but I know 100% God doesn't factor into it.


Still cannot explain the genetic issues I brought up, huh?

Please explain how humans share NO MITOCHONDRIAL DNA with any other primate, but ALL HUMANS DO share mitochondrial DNA from a SINGLE , FEMALE SOURCE?

Then explain how humans share NO Y-CHROMOSOMAL DNA with any other primates, but ALL human males share y-chromosomal DNA from a SINGLE MALE SOURCE...which PREDATES the female universal mitochondrial DNA source.






Let's see the ancient Sumerian texts that the humanists are always pretending exists.





The stones that the Epic of Gilgameth were found one are from around 650 BC...MUCH LATER than Biblical accounts of the Great Flood.

The Epic of Gilgamesh is contained on twelve large tablets, and since the original discovery, it has been found on others, as well as having been translated into other early languages.7 The actual tablets date back to around 650 B.C. and are obviously not originals since fragments of the flood story have been found on tablets dated around 2,000 B.C.8 Linguistic experts believe that the story was composed well before 2,000 B.C. compiled from material that was much older than that date.9 The Sumerian cuneiform writing has been estimated to go as far back as 3,300 B.C.


There is not one shred of evidence that this was not taken from the Hebrews.

[Just AnotherPerson]

I'm sure no one noticed your COMPLETE FAILURE to address the questions I raised with your lameass Straw Man.

I never said a thing about the geological age of the planet.

I DID say this:


Please explain how humans share NO MITOCHONDRIAL DNA with any other primate, but ALL HUMANS DO share mitochondrial DNA from a SINGLE , FEMALE SOURCE?

Then explain how humans share NO Y-CHROMOSOMAL DNA with any other primates, but ALL human males share y-chromosomal DNA from a SINGLE MALE SOURCE...which PREDATES the female universal mitochondrial DNA source.

Wow kind of serious. You have taken the argument to the next level. Sheeeit!

[NapRover]

Conservative Christians are no more deranged than any other category of people.

[Tahuyaman]

Conservative christians want their kids to be educated about all theories concerning the the origin of the earth, mankind and the animal kingdom.


There is no evidence to support creationism in it's literal form. Christians are free to teach such theory in their own schools.

There's as much evidence to support creationism as there Darwin's theory of evolution. Children should be educated on all ideas surrounding the origin of man.

[donttread]

It is true that scientists have never found the real "missing link" that shows how early man evolved into modern man. There are definitely signs of evolutions, though, in the early man. Unless those were just different species that coexisted all along. I'm no genetisist. I have read that modern man and neaderthals interbred a bit, and that white people from europe actually carry more leftover neaderthal dna than other races.
I also tend to somewhat disagree with Darwin's evolution, but only in the sense that I don't think there was a single origin for life, and all life evolved and branched out from that. For example, if we descended from apes over millions of years, why are there still apes? I think that instead of a single orign somewhere in the past, new origins happen almost every day, and living things follow similar evolutionary paths because of similar conditions. This would make it possible for apes and humans to be here together at the same time.
I don't believe in God, or fairies, or leprechauns, or angels. And the story of Noah is a watered down Sumerian story, which is far more detailed. But the premise of the Sumerian version was that "gods", that were more like advanced people, kick started the human race from more primitive humanoids on earth mixed with their own dna. I can find this more plausible, I'm far more likely to believe in aliens than in a God. And it would tend towards filling in gaps in the fossil record. Depending on who's counting, the creation of people could be anywhere from 20,000 to 250,000 years ago.
The other thing about Noah's story I don't like is he put 2 of each animal of the earth on the ark. If I am confined to even a relatively large part of the earth, there is no way possible for me to collect 2 of each animal from the entire planet. And I see way too much diversity for it all to have developed in the last 4,000 years since Noah's supposed time. Unless you throw in some crazy evolution. But even then, some of the animals around today are in the fossil record and they have a lineage almost unchanged for millions of years. I truly don't know what to believe, but I know 100% God doesn't factor into it.



Apes still have a nique . Our ancestors are could have been deforested and forced into the dangerous plains where cooperation, communication opposable thumbs and even more brain power became necessary for us to survive while those not forced out remained apes. I agree there are holes in evolution theory but there is far more evidence to support it than there is creationism in it's literal interpretation

[Abby08]

Apes still have a nique . Our ancestors are could have been deforested and forced into the dangerous plains where cooperation, communication opposable thumbs and even more brain power became necessary for us to survive while those not forced out remained apes. I agree there are holes in evolution theory but there is far more evidence to support it than there is creationism in it's literal interpretation

The problem I have with creationism, even though it's what I was taught, is, that we all come from two people.

That simply cannot be, if it all started in the garden of Eden, where did all of the other people come from, in all of the other cities?

Two people, could not have been the start of the entire population...where did Cane and Able' s wives come from, all the other people who were the same age as Adam and Eve, or older?

As a child, I believed that, was force fed, a more accurate description, as an adult, I questioned it and, never got satisfactory answers.

It makes more sense to me, that our early ancestors climbed from the primordial ooze and, spent the next several thousand years, evolving as times changed, developing more features, as needed for the changing times.

[Grokmaster]

The problem I have with creationism, even though it's what I taught, is, that we all come from two people.

That simply cannot be, if it all started in the garden of Eden, where did all of the other people come from, in all of the other cities?

Two people, could not have been the start of the entire population...where did Cane and Able' s wives come from, all the other people who were the same age as Adam and Eve, or older?

As a child, I believed that, was force fed, a more accurate description, as an adult, I questioned it and, never got satisfactory answers.

It makes more sense to me, that our early ancestors climbed from the primordial ooze and, spent the next several thousand years, evolving as times changed, developing more features, as needed for the changing times.

More people are present by the time Cain murders Abel, as humans multiplied, and Adam and Eve had more children, too.

It doesn't really give a play by play as to when/how...but Adam and Eve lived very long lives.



Please explain how humans share NO MITOCHONDRIAL DNA with any other primate, but ALL HUMANS DO share mitochondrial DNA from a SINGLE , FEMALE SOURCE?

Then explain how humans share NO Y-CHROMOSOMAL DNA with any other primates, but ALL human males share y-chromosomal DNA from a SINGLE MALE SOURCE...which PREDATES the female universal mitochondrial DNA source.

[donttread]

The problem I have with creationism, even though it's what I taught, is, that we all come from two people.

That simply cannot be, if it all started in the garden of Eden, where did all of the other people come from, in all of the other cities?

Two people, could not have been the start of the entire population...where did Cane and Able' s wives come from, all the other people who were the same age as Adam and Eve, or older?

As a child, I believed that, was force fed, a more accurate description, as an adult, I questioned it and, never got satisfactory answers.

It makes more sense to me, that our early ancestors climbed from the primordial ooze and, spent the next several thousand years, evolving as times changed, developing more features, as needed for the changing times.


That's a good point . Biologist use a term something to the effect of "breeding population" when they talk about an animals status as endagered or not.
I wonder what the "breeding population would be for humans? It would very much depend on dispersement but it well be in the millions.

[spunkloaf]

It is true that scientists have never found the real "missing link" that shows how early man evolved into modern man. There are definitely signs of evolutions, though, in the early man. Unless those were just different species that coexisted all along. I'm no genetisist. I have read that modern man and neaderthals interbred a bit, and that white people from europe actually carry more leftover neaderthal dna than other races.
I also tend to somewhat disagree with Darwin's evolution, but only in the sense that I don't think there was a single origin for life, and all life evolved and branched out from that. For example, if we descended from apes over millions of years, why are there still apes? I think that instead of a single orign somewhere in the past, new origins happen almost every day, and living things follow similar evolutionary paths because of similar conditions. This would make it possible for apes and humans to be here together at the same time.
I don't believe in God, or fairies, or leprechauns, or angels. And the story of Noah is a watered down Sumerian story, which is far more detailed. But the premise of the Sumerian version was that "gods", that were more like advanced people, kick started the human race from more primitive humanoids on earth mixed with their own dna. I can find this more plausible, I'm far more likely to believe in aliens than in a God. And it would tend towards filling in gaps in the fossil record. Depending on who's counting, the creation of people could be anywhere from 20,000 to 250,000 years ago.
The other thing about Noah's story I don't like is he put 2 of each animal of the earth on the ark. If I am confined to even a relatively large part of the earth, there is no way possible for me to collect 2 of each animal from the entire planet. And I see way too much diversity for it all to have developed in the last 4,000 years since Noah's supposed time. Unless you throw in some crazy evolution. But even then, some of the animals around today are in the fossil record and they have a lineage almost unchanged for millions of years. I truly don't know what to believe, but I know 100% God doesn't factor into it.

I did the 23AndMe DNA test, and I have 238 Neanderthal Variants (less than 88% of other people.) :shocked:

Science does not claim to have all the answers, but it promises to keep searching for them.

A good scientist is also ready to be proven wrong, and to have their entire understanding flipped on its head. This is what happened with the Copernican Revolution, when our understanding of the universe switched from a geocentric theory to a heliocentric theory. Suddenly, the Sun didn't revolve around the stationary Earth anymore. (The Earth had been proven to be round long before that as well, but that's for a different thread...)

I'm waiting for the next Copernican Revolution. Maybe we'll discover that we're all aliens plugged into a virtual reality simulator at an alien arcade. :wink: Why an alien would choose this simulation, I'll never know. :sad:

Anyways, evolution is not a final and complete theory. That's why it is a theory. But it does a much better job of explaining the mechanics of life than any religious book does.

Also, if people would just try not to take the Bible so fucking LITERALLY, they would find that there is no need for science and religion to compete. They can actually coexist wonderfully. All the religious right needs to do is stop attacking science as if it is trying to kill their god, and they will find out that science doesn't really care about religion at all.

[spunkloaf]

The problem I have with creationism, even though it's what I taught, is, that we all come from two people.

That simply cannot be, if it all started in the garden of Eden, where did all of the other people come from, in all of the other cities?

Two people, could not have been the start of the entire population...where did Cane and Able' s wives come from, all the other people who were the same age as Adam and Eve, or older?

As a child, I believed that, was force fed, a more accurate description, as an adult, I questioned it and, never got satisfactory answers.

It makes more sense to me, that our early ancestors climbed from the primordial ooze and, spent the next several thousand years, evolving as times changed, developing more features, as needed for the changing times.

It is possible to be religious AND scientific. You just don't need to take the Bible so literally.

The creationist story in the Bible is an allegory, it is not the literal truth of how the world was created. There's too much that we have discovered in nature that proves the creationist stories to be less than literally true.

[Abby08]

More people are present by the time Cain murders Abel, as humans multiplied, and Adam and Eve had more children, too.

It doesn't really give a play by play as to when/how...but Adam and Eve lived very long lives.



Please explain how humans share NO MITOCHONDRIAL DNA with any other primate, but ALL HUMANS DO share mitochondrial DNA from a SINGLE , FEMALE SOURCE?

Then explain how humans share NO Y-CHROMOSOMAL DNA with any other primates, but ALL human males share y-chromosomal DNA from a SINGLE MALE SOURCE...which PREDATES the female universal mitochondrial DNA source.

That's another thing I had a problem with... Cain and Abel's wives, if there were no other people, and their parents went on to have more children, Cain and Abel must have married their sisters.....incest.

[Abby08]

Still, there's no explanation for all the other people, in other cities....it's impossible for Adam and Eve to have borne so many people, people older than them....that, cannot be explained away.

[spunkloaf]

Still, there's no explanation for all the other people, in other cities....it's impossible for Adam and Eve to have borne so many people, people older than them....that, cannot be explained away.

I'm sure if you talk to Ken Ham, he would come up with a huge non-biblical explanation for you.

[RadioGod]

I'm sure no one noticed your COMPLETE FAILURE to address the questions I raised with your lameass Straw Man.

I never said a thing about the geological age of the planet.

I DID say this:


Please explain how humans share NO MITOCHONDRIAL DNA with any other primate, but ALL HUMANS DO share mitochondrial DNA from a SINGLE , FEMALE SOURCE?

Then explain how humans share NO Y-CHROMOSOMAL DNA with any other primates, but ALL human males share y-chromosomal DNA from a SINGLE MALE SOURCE...which PREDATES the female universal mitochondrial DNA source.

I don't know.

[RadioGod]

Still cannot explain the genetic issues I brought up, huh?

Please explain how humans share NO MITOCHONDRIAL DNA with any other primate, but ALL HUMANS DO share mitochondrial DNA from a SINGLE , FEMALE SOURCE?

Then explain how humans share NO Y-CHROMOSOMAL DNA with any other primates, but ALL human males share y-chromosomal DNA from a SINGLE MALE SOURCE...which PREDATES the female universal mitochondrial DNA source.






Let's see the ancient Sumerian texts that the humanists are always pretending exists.





The stones that the Epic of Gilgameth were found one are from around 650 BC...MUCH LATER than Biblical accounts of the Great Flood.

The Epic of Gilgamesh is contained on twelve large tablets, and since the original discovery, it has been found on others, as well as having been translated into other early languages.7 The actual tablets date back to around 650 B.C. and are obviously not originals since fragments of the flood story have been found on tablets dated around 2,000 B.C.8 Linguistic experts believe that the story was composed well before 2,000 B.C. compiled from material that was much older than that date.9 The Sumerian cuneiform writing has been estimated to go as far back as 3,300 B.C.


There is not one shred of evidence that this was not taken from the Hebrews.
I would seriously look for better information on dating of Sumerian cuneiform. Try the British Museum or something. Babylonian alone goes back easily to 3300BCE, and that is a derivitive of older Sumerian.

[RadioGod]

Apes still have a nique . Our ancestors are could have been deforested and forced into the dangerous plains where cooperation, communication opposable thumbs and even more brain power became necessary for us to survive while those not forced out remained apes. I agree there are holes in evolution theory but there is far more evidence to support it than there is creationism in it's literal interpretation
I agree, I was just throwing in a couple ideas. I believe in evolution. I also think life is everywhere in the universe, and it was probably chugging along out there long before our planet could even sustain it.

[DGUtley]

Some fag from Chicago. Never mind. He might have died from AIDS by now.

NOTICE - Mister D TB'd for bad faith posting.

[MisterVeritis]

Mitochondrial DNA:

Mitochondria do a lot for the world. They’re present in many different kinds of organisms,
https://www.helix.com/blog/mitochondria-dna-ancestry/

Human mitochondrial DNA is found in, humans. Mitochondria are not unique to humans.

[MisterVeritis]

Please explain how humans share NO MITOCHONDRIAL DNA with any other primate, but ALL HUMANS DO share mitochondrial DNA from a SINGLE , FEMALE SOURCE?

Then explain how humans share NO Y-CHROMOSOMAL DNA with any other primates, but ALL human males share y-chromosomal DNA from a SINGLE MALE SOURCE...which PREDATES the female universal mitochondrial DNA source.

Wow....some amazing coincidences there, huh? :cool2:
It may be a definition problem. Mitochondria are found in many organisms. Human mitochondria are found only in uh, oh, erm, humans. Given the name it is not surprising.

The single source implies that other competing humanoids died out somewhere along the way. Your all caps are unnecessary and distracting.

[MisterVeritis]

The significant different between religion and science:

Take them both away from humans. Completely eradicate them from our experience.

In a few hundred years, science will return in its exact form, because it is derived directly from experience and observation of nature. In other words, science is written in nature itself.

Religion will never return in its current form, because it comes from old texts written by humans.
Science, as we know it developed in just one place. Greece. Eradicate it and we might never get it back.

[spunkloaf]

Science, as we know it developed in just one place. Greece. Eradicate it and we might never get it back.

Science, as we know it, is a simple observance and measurement of nature. Since nature is always there, science will always be there.

[MisterVeritis]

Science, as we know it, is a simple observance and measurement of nature. Since nature is always there, science will always be there.
You err. In the history of ideas, science arose in one place. Greece. Given that it is unclear that science would be recreated.

[donttread]

That's another thing I had a problem with... Cain and Abel's wives, if there were no other people, and their parents went on to have more children, Cain and Abel must have married their sisters.....incest.


Of course incest , what other explanation could there be? They were like "hey sis". LOL

[donttread]

You err. In the history of ideas, science arose in one place. Greece. Given that it is unclear that science would be recreated.


Greece? C'mon. People have been expert observers since they were people . Isn't that along with curiosity the basis of science? The tribes had extensive knowledge of plants likely based upon obsevation and experimentation then information being passed down.

[MisterVeritis]

Greece? C'mon. People have been expert observers since they were people . Isn't that along with curiosity the basis of science? The tribes had extensive knowledge of plants likely based upon obsevation and experimentation then information being passed down.
I believe you are confusing "know-how" with science.

[donttread]

I believe you are confusing "know-how" with science.

Nope. Just becuase they didn't have exact terms to describe what they were doing doesn't mean it wasn't the same thing