Why is Trump not disclosing civillian casualties? He out murdured Obama already!

[Just AnotherPerson]

When Obama was president he was loathed by most of us we called him the drone strike king. He was a ruthless killer through and through. During his 8 years he was responsible for roughly 2,200 civilian deaths. Not including enemy combatants. Also during his presidency the news was non stop filled with news and images of war. We were a nation at war and we knew we were at war. Every day you would see the atrocities on the news of bombed out buildings and schools and scores of the dead innocent children. https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/07/17/civilian-deaths-under-trump-already-higher-than-during-obamas-entire-presidency/23034059/

I was wondering why do we not see this on the news anymore. It almost feels like we are not at war anymore and that the innocent are not dying anymore. I decided to look it up online to see how many civilian were dying in the war compared to when Obama was in the house.

What I found astounded me. In his first year alone he had more civilian deaths than Obamas entire presidency! That is staggering! http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/07/u-s-air-strikes-are-killing-far-more-civilians-under-trump.html

The only information I could find is from a year ago. I wondered why then I found this https://www.denverpost.com/2018/06/01/we-should-know-how-many-civilians-die-in-u-s-strikes/
In a move that should set off alarm bells for all Americans, in early May the White House failed to comply with an Obama administration-era executive order requiring it to publicly report on the number of civilians harmed in U.S. counterterrorism strikes.

We don't get to see it on the news like when Obama was president. We don't get to see what is happening with the war or how many civilians are dying. I am not a fan of Obama in any way many including myself loathed him I spoke out against his tyranny loudly! I am no fan of killing the innocent, Especially when they do it in my name with my money! I didn't agree to this! http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/07/u-s-air-strikes-are-killing-far-more-civilians-under-trump.html

https://thinkprogress.org/trump-is-bombing-the-shit-out-of-civilians-af8ed672bd70/

We should know what our county is doing because they are doing it in our name, with our tax dollars we have the right to know. They do not have the right to withhold this kind of information from us.

It is being made to look like we are in peace times when the killing is worse than ever.

Is anyone else Angry to find this out?

[Lummy]

No.

[Just AnotherPerson]

No.

You might be ok with it if it was not your children or loved ones who died. You might be ok with it if you didn't see the dead and dying in person and see that they were real living beings who feel pain just like you and me. You might be ok with it if you don't have a heart in your body!

[stjames1_53]

we left that up to you to discern and pass back to us. How many civilians did Obama bomb/kill?

[Just AnotherPerson]

I am starting to wonder if all the Trump bashing on the news isnt all part of the plan. We are being distacted beyond belief. There are real actual crimes taking place and no one is saying a thing about anything real. FAKE news only! I am sure Trump is fine with it. Better for them to make fun of his hair all day or worry about his physique or what porn star he slept with than to report on the real stuff that is really happening. It is all one big distraction and circus show. So to you Trump supporters perhaps Trump is actually being protected. It would be a very clever tactic for sure!

[jimmyz]

The dumber American wants salacious myths to believe in. Real dead brown kids are a bummer and make your latte not as tasty.

[MisterVeritis]

The only information I could find is from a year ago. I wondered why then I found this https://www.denverpost.com/2018/06/01/we-should-know-how-many-civilians-die-in-u-s-strikes/
In a move that should set off alarm bells for all Americans, in early May the White House failed to comply with an Obama administration-era executive order requiring it to publicly report on the number of civilians harmed in U.S. counterterrorism strikes.


This administration is under no obligation to follow any Obama Executive orders.

[Just AnotherPerson]

The dumber American wants salacious myths to believe in. Real dead brown kids are a bummer and make your latte not as tasty.
You are sick!

[Just AnotherPerson]

[/LEFT]
This administration is under no obligation to follow any Obama Executive orders.
We are also under no orders and you plan to take over the government if your peaceful plan fails. You are going to get many killed because you decided to. You didn't ask anyone. You would force death on others.

Trump is working under the orders of the citizens of the United States Of America. He cannot just do as he pleases. If he is going to use our soil and our money to do a deed he must tell us what it is.

Just because you are ok with the murder of the innocent does not mean the rest of us are.

You are brain washed psychopaths enemies of the United States of America and of the whole world.

[MisterVeritis]

We are also under no orders and you plan to take over the government if your peaceful plan fails. You are going to get many killed because you decided to. You didn't ask anyone. You would force death on others.
A fuuture rebellion is not relevant to this discussion.

Trump is working under the orders of the citizens of the United States Of America. He cannot just do as he pleases. If he is going to use our soil and our money to do a deed he must tell us what it is.
Perhaps. Perhaps not. President Trump takes no orders from the "citizens of the United States". Yes, he can do everything the Constitution allows him to do. If the President is prosecuting a war the Congress has allowed then he can do just about anything needed to win it.

Just because you are ok with the murder of the innocent does not mean the rest of us are.
You are brain washed psychopaths enemies of the United States of America and of the whole world.
You do great damage to the language. Those killed lawfully in war are not murdered. They are killed.

[Agent Zero]

You might be ok with it if it was not your children or loved ones who died. You might be ok with it if you didn't see the dead and dying in person and see that they were real living beings who feel pain just like you and me. You might be ok with it if you don't have a heart in your body!
They don't care.

[Crepitus]

When Obama was president he was loathed by most of us we called him the drone strike king. He was a ruthless killer through and through. During his 8 years he was responsible for roughly 2,200 civilian deaths. Not including enemy combatants. Also during his presidency the news was non stop filled with news and images of war. We were a nation at war and we knew we were at war. Every day you would see the atrocities on the news of bombed out buildings and schools and scores of the dead innocent children. https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/07/17/civilian-deaths-under-trump-already-higher-than-during-obamas-entire-presidency/23034059/

I was wondering why do we not see this on the news anymore. It almost feels like we are not at war anymore and that the innocent are not dying anymore. I decided to look it up online to see how many civilian were dying in the war compared to when Obama was in the house.

What I found astounded me. In his first year alone he had more civilian deaths than Obamas entire presidency! That is staggering! http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/07/u-s-air-strikes-are-killing-far-more-civilians-under-trump.html

The only information I could find is from a year ago. I wondered why then I found this https://www.denverpost.com/2018/06/01/we-should-know-how-many-civilians-die-in-u-s-strikes/
In a move that should set off alarm bells for all Americans, in early May the White House failed to comply with an Obama administration-era executive order requiring it to publicly report on the number of civilians harmed in U.S. counterterrorism strikes.

We don't get to see it on the news like when Obama was president. We don't get to see what is happening with the war or how many civilians are dying. I am not a fan of Obama in any way many including myself loathed him I spoke out against his tyranny loudly! I am no fan of killing the innocent, Especially when they do it in my name with my money! I didn't agree to this! http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/07/u-s-air-strikes-are-killing-far-more-civilians-under-trump.html

https://thinkprogress.org/trump-is-bombing-the-shit-out-of-civilians-af8ed672bd70/

We should know what our county is doing because they are doing it in our name, with our tax dollars we have the right to know. They do not have the right to withhold this kind of information from us.

It is being made to look like we are in peace times when the killing is worse than ever.

Is anyone else Angry to find this out?

Yes.

[Just AnotherPerson]

A fuuture rebellion is not relevant to this discussion.

Perhaps. Perhaps not. President Trump takes no orders from the "citizens of the United States". Yes, he can do everything the Constitution allows him to do. If the President is prosecuting a war the Congress has allowed then he can do just about anything needed to win it.

You do great damage to the language. Those killed lawfully in war are not murdered. They are killed.
You are told that it is not murder so that you can live with doing it. You believed it, that is your own loss of humanity, a sad day for the world. Because of one mans beliefs the innocent of the world must die. Like you are a F-ing God who gets to choose if a child lives or dies!

When the citizens learn that what you say is true it will not be your rebellion that wins! I am not for rebellion but if you do force a rebellion on the people and you try to force a tyranny you will not make it.

I also don't buy your rebellion. I know 100% for sure if it were true you would be in prison. With the repeal of Net neutrality nothing is private. Your every conversation is now "lawfully" accessible. Your plan is Treason. If it is true. If it is true you and no one has knocked on your door already. You are certainly on a watch list. Your every conversation is being funneled through a fusion center and being dissected! Even your thoughts are being recorded.

If you are exempt from this then you are working for the United States Government an agent to lure in dissidents and they will go to prison one by one while you play on the forums.

The rebellion was a comparison and so yes it is relevant, and comparison can be given to help a certain person understand what you are saying.

[MisterVeritis]

You are told that it is not murder so that you can live with doing it. You believed it, that is your own loss of humanity, a sad day for the world. Because of one mans beliefs the innocent of the world must die. Like you are a F-ing God who gets to choose if a child lives or dies!
Whine and cry all you want. The reason the legislative branch has the sole authority to take the nation to war concerns wars consequences.

When the citizens learn that what you say is true it will not be your rebellion that wins! I am not for rebellion but if you do force a rebellion on the people and you try to force a tyranny you will not make it.
No one can say ahead of time if a rebellion will succeed. The way to bet is a rebellion will fail.

I also don't buy your rebellion. I know 100% for sure if it were true you would be in prison.
It will not be my rebellion. It will, if successful come to be known as the Second American Revolution.


With the repeal of Net neutrality nothing is private.
Keeping the Internet away from government regulators has nothing to do with privacy/ You do know you are a kook, don't you? Thee good news is you are not uninformed. The bad news is you are misinformed.


Your every conversation is now "lawfully" accessible.
Untrue. Are you familiar with the 4th Amendment? My public utterings, such as this one are readily available.


Your plan is Treason.
I can see what is coming. Is tht treason? Fascinating.


If it is true. If it is true you and no one has knocked on your door already. You are certainly on a watch list. Your every conversation is being funneled through a fusion center and being dissected! Even your thoughts are being recorded.
LOL. I have racy thoughts. Those ought to keep the analysts aroused.

If you are exempt from this then you are working for the United States Government an agent to lure in dissidents and they will go to prison one by one while you play on the forums.
It is too bad your imagination is of such low quality. With some effort, okay, with a great deal of effort you could try writing fiction.

The rebellion was a comparison and so yes it is relevant, and comparison can be given to help a certain person understand what you are saying.
Uh, no.

[Agent Zero]

Whine and cry all you want. The reason the legislative branch has the sole authority to take the nation to war concerns wars consequences.

No one can say ahead of time if a rebellion will succeed. The way to bet is a rebellion will fail.

It will not be my rebellion. It will, if successful come to be known as the Second American Revolution.


Keeping the Internet away from government regulators has nothing to do with privacy/ You do know you are a kook, don't you? Thee good news is you are not uninformed. The bad news is you are misinformed.


Untrue. Are you familiar with the 4th Amendment? My public utterings, such as this one are readily available.


I can see what is coming. Is tht treason? Fascinating.


LOL. I have racy thoughts. Those ought to keep the analysts aroused.

It is too bad your imagination is of such low quality. With some effort, okay, with a great deal of effort you could try writing fiction.
[quotee]The rebellion was a comparison and so yes it is relevant, and comparison can be given to help a certain person understand what you are saying.


Just wondering.. MisterVeritis

How many forums have you been permabanned from for your seditious language? Other than, of course, Stormfront...

(I know of at least three)

[MisterVeritis]

Just wondering.. @MisterVeritis (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1287)
How many forums have you been permabanned from for your seditious language? Other than, of course, Stormfront...
(I know of at least three)

I am regularly banned. Most liberal sites cannot stand me. I run rings around their best liberals. People like stand no chance facing me. So you group together behind the scenes and rid yourselves of your competition.

Total? I have been doing this for a very long time. It has to be a large number. But none for sedition as nothing I say is seditious. If you were a smarter person you would know that.

[Just AnotherPerson]

Whine and cry all you want. The reason the legislative branch has the sole authority to take the nation to war concerns wars consequences.

No one can say ahead of time if a rebellion will succeed. The way to bet is a rebellion will fail.

It will not be my rebellion. It will, if successful come to be known as the Second American Revolution.


Keeping the Internet away from government regulators has nothing to do with privacy/ You do know you are a kook, don't you? Thee good news is you are not uninformed. The bad news is you are misinformed.


Untrue. Are you familiar with the 4th Amendment? My public utterings, such as this one are readily available.


I can see what is coming. Is tht treason? Fascinating.


LOL. I have racy thoughts. Those ought to keep the analysts aroused.

It is too bad your imagination is of such low quality. With some effort, okay, with a great deal of effort you could try writing fiction.

The rebellion was a comparison and so yes it is relevant, and comparison can be given to help a certain person understand what you are saying.
Uh, no.


It is also known as greed and just funneling money to the military industrial complex. Kids have to die so we can grow our economy selling bombs and bullets. It is also known as killing for resources. Call it what you want war is war! The reasons are always the same.

As for you being watched if everything you are saying is true then yes you will be on a list not just any list but THE list of lists!

A plan for an attack on US Soil, is what they call terrorism. You are already on that list if you are not an informant. I find it hard to believe you would be conducting business publicly in a forum about an attack on your own soil. Or stating out loud on a forum that you plan to revolt and overthrow your own government. There is no way in Hell. You are a fiction writer for sure! No regular person in their right mind would say the death of kids was ok in the rebellion.

[Agent Zero]

I am regularly banned. Most liberal sites cannot stand me. I run rings around their best liberals. People like stand no chance facing me. So you group together behind the scenes and rid yourselves of your competition.
Total? I have been doing this for a very long time. It has to be a large number. But none for sedition as nothing I say is seditious. If you were a smarter person you would know that.

JPP is far from a liberal site. And you don't run rings around anyone, you're just a troll. Go back to Trinnity's forum.

[MisterVeritis]

Uh, no.


It is also known as greed and just funneling money to the military industrial complex. Kids have to die so we can grow our economy selling bombs and bullets. It is also known as killing for resources. Call it what you want war is war! The reasons are always the same.
As for you being watched if everything you are saying is true then yes you will be on a list not just any list but THE list of lists!

A plan for an attack on US Soil, is what they call terrorism. You are already on that list if you are not an informant. I find it hard to believe you would be conducting business publicly in a forum about an attack on your own soil. Or stating out loud on a forum that you plan to revolt and overthrow your own government. There is no way in Hell. You are a fiction writer for sure! No regular person in their right mind would say the death of kids was ok in the rebellion.
I urge you to see your primary care physician for a psychiatric referral.

[MisterVeritis]

JPP is far from a liberal site. And you don't run rings around anyone, you're just a troll. Go back to Trinnity's forum.
What is JPP? Link?

[MisterVeritis]

JPP is far from a liberal site. And you don't run rings around anyone, you're just a troll. Go back to Trinnity's forum.
I visit there and post there daily. It is a shame it does not work correctly with the Chrome browser.

[MisterVeritis]

JPP is far from a liberal site. And you don't run rings around anyone, you're just a troll. Go back to Trinnity's forum.
I am a troll and you are a janitor. Got it.

I had hoped you would be a better opponent.

[countryboy]

Just wondering.. MisterVeritis

How many forums have you been permabanned from for your seditious language? Other than, of course, Stormfront...

(I know of at least three)

Recognizing that you and your ilk are driving this country towards civil war is not "seditious". Don't be ridiculous

[Just AnotherPerson]

I wouldnt want MR V to leave the forum, I will leave soon enough. But there are the few here who cant bare to see my posts. They attack me so viciously to get me to leave, at my slightest comment about anything. Honestly I was just stopping in to get the word out when my grandfather died so that if something like this happened to others they would recognize it and perhaps be able to save their loved one even if for a day.

If I share something it is always in the hopes of saving a life. Unless I go down into the hell realm and decide to fight it out and stick up for others here and there. But normally it is not me trying to defend myself. I get in arguments when I am defending others, and others rights to life. When it comes to me say what you will, who really cares. But say it about someone else and I will stand up for what is right if and when I can!

You will try to down talk me, and call me a complainer, and a crybaby, but even you know it is not true. Its the opposite. I am not whining at all. I am just a little girl who is not being knocked around!

But since I was attacked so viciously. I decided to stay. I am not going to stay for long. But I just stayed because of how I was trying to be forced to leave. You try to attack people to get rid of them and troll them in rediculous ways. But I am not going to go along with that.

I will just stay till I am done. It wont be long. So chillax haters! Put your white sheets away and the kerosene back in the cupboard. No need to keep burning crosses on the lawns.

[Ransom]

I wouldnt want MR V to leave the forum, I will leave soon enough. But there are the few here who cant bare to see my posts. They attack me so viciously to get me to leave, at my slightest comment about anything. Honestly I was just stopping in to get the word out when my grandfather died so that if something like this happened to others they would recognize it and perhaps be able to save their loved one even if for a day.

If I share something it is always in the hopes of saving a life. Unless I go down into the hell realm and decide to fight it out and stick up for others here and there. But normally it is not me trying to defend myself. I get in arguments when I am defending others, and others rights to life. When it comes to me say what you will, who really cares. But say it about someone else and I will stand up for what is right if and when I can!

You will try to down talk me, and call me a complainer, and a crybaby, but even you know it is not true. Its the opposite. I am not whining at all. I am just a little girl who is not being knocked around!

But since I was attacked so viciously. I decided to stay. I am not going to stay for long. But I just stayed because of how I was trying to be forced to leave. You try to attack people to get rid of them and troll them in rediculous ways. But I am not going to go along with that.

I will just stay till I am done. It wont be long. So chillax haters! Put your white sheets away and the kerosene back in the cupboard. No need to keep burning crosses on the lawns.
https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.pJrY6c6WOyI3QslWg_ezVAHaHa&w=206&h=206&c=8&rs=1&qlt=90&dpr=2&pid=3.1&rm=2 (https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=pic+of+box+of+kleenex&id=C8A4B0C3B8951682880CF440B18DF6ABC45C7B07&FORM=IQFRBA)

You sure whine a lot about people picking on you and shiit, Just. This happens to be an anonymous talk forum. No one changes anyone's minds. We're all throwing banter out at the screen, some cross words get thrown on occasion but we're all adults are we not?

Snap one of them hankies out.....and wipe them tears aways….and for God's sake....go get your big boy pants on. And no one here wears a white sheet either so, put the race card down, you probably got it from Safety anyways. That dog don't hunt here. Quit sniveling.

[Just AnotherPerson]

https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.pJrY6c6WOyI3QslWg_ezVAHaHa&w=206&h=206&c=8&rs=1&qlt=90&dpr=2&pid=3.1&rm=2 (https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=pic+of+box+of+kleenex&id=C8A4B0C3B8951682880CF440B18DF6ABC45C7B07&FORM=IQFRBA)

You sure whine a lot about people picking on you and shiit, Just. This happens to be an anonymous talk forum. No one changes anyone's minds. We're all throwing banter out at the screen, some cross words get thrown on occasion but we're all adults are we not?

Snap one of them hankies out.....and wipe them tears aways….and for God's sake....go get your big boy pants on. And no one here wears a white sheet either so, put the race card down, you probably got it from Safety anyways. That dog don't hunt here. Quit sniveling.

It's not me who is crying good tactic though!

When I did my immigration thread I sure did hear a lot of white sheet lingo.

[MisterVeritis]

I wouldnt want MR V to leave the forum,
This forum is secondary. Trinn's is primary.


I will leave soon enough.
Why? Do we counter you with too much intensity?


But there are the few here who can't bare to see my posts.
I enjoy them all. Some are goofy. Some indicate some level of insanity. All are entertaining.


They attack me so viciously to get me to leave, at my slightest comment about anything. Honestly I was just stopping in to get the word out when my grandfather died so that if something like this happened to others they would recognize it and perhaps be able to save their loved one even if for a day.
You have my sympathy.

If I share something it is always in the hopes of saving a life. Unless I go down into the hell realm and decide to fight it out and stick up for others here and there. But normally it is not me trying to defend myself. I get in arguments when I am defending others, and others rights to life. When it comes to me say what you will, who really cares. But say it about someone else and I will stand up for what is right if and when I can!

You will try to down talk me, and call me a complainer, and a crybaby, but even you know it is not true. Its the opposite. I am not whining at all. I am just a little girl who is not being knocked around!

But since I was attacked so viciously. I decided to stay. I am not going to stay for long. But I just stayed because of how I was trying to be forced to leave. You try to attack people to get rid of them and troll them in rediculous ways. But I am not going to go along with that.

I will just stay till I am done. It wont be long. So chillax haters! Put your white sheets away and the kerosene back in the cupboard. No need to keep burning crosses on the lawns.
You were good up to your final paragraph. It is a pity you will go out weak.

[Agent Zero]

I wouldnt want MR V to leave the forum, I will leave soon enough. But there are the few here who cant bare to see my posts. They attack me so viciously to get me to leave, at my slightest comment about anything. Honestly I was just stopping in to get the word out when my grandfather died so that if something like this happened to others they would recognize it and perhaps be able to save their loved one even if for a day.

If I share something it is always in the hopes of saving a life. Unless I go down into the hell realm and decide to fight it out and stick up for others here and there. But normally it is not me trying to defend myself. I get in arguments when I am defending others, and others rights to life. When it comes to me say what you will, who really cares. But say it about someone else and I will stand up for what is right if and when I can!

You will try to down talk me, and call me a complainer, and a crybaby, but even you know it is not true. Its the opposite. I am not whining at all. I am just a little girl who is not being knocked around!

But since I was attacked so viciously. I decided to stay. I am not going to stay for long. But I just stayed because of how I was trying to be forced to leave. You try to attack people to get rid of them and troll them in rediculous ways. But I am not going to go along with that.

I will just stay till I am done. It wont be long. So chillax haters! Put your white sheets away and the kerosene back in the cupboard. No need to keep burning crosses on the lawns.

lol...have you seen their replies to me or any other liberal? The problem is that you and I and others fight the good fight and discuss matters with intelligence and reason.

They can't handle it, they know Trump's days are numbered, they're scared and reacting like little kids, so all they can do is attack and insult. Even the mods.

[MisterVeritis]

lol...have you seen their replies to me or any other liberal? The problem is that you and I and others fight the good fight and discuss matters with intelligence and reason.

They can't handle it, they know Trump's days are numbered, they're scared and reacting like little kids, so all they can do is attack and insult. Even the mods.
This makes me smile. A wise person will plan for two completed Trump terms. You are right. President Trump's days in office are numbered (8 x 365).

I attack your goofy positions because it gives me pleasure.

[Just AnotherPerson]

This forum is secondary. Trinn's is primary.


Why? Do we counter you with too much intensity?


I enjoy them all. Some are goofy. Some indicate some level of insanity. All are entertaining.


You have my sympathy.

You were good up to your final paragraph. It is a pity you will go out weak.

I am not leaving because of you freaks. I am Only staying because of you. You got it all wrong! I never intended to stay in the first place I just came to get the word out about something really important maybe even to save you haters families lives. I came here to help you just in case. That way if something similar happens in your life you will recognize it and perhaps save a life.

I will not leave because I am weak. I was never going to stay. But since I wasn't wanted I just decided to stay and say some of the rest of the things that I think are important too.

Life is important to me, even yours. Even if you want me to die, who cares. I still care about your life, and for some reason that makes you dislike me even more. Strange mentality you boys have.

[jimmyz]

Just wondering.. @MisterVeritis (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1287)

How many forums have you been permabanned from for your seditious language? Other than, of course, Stormfront...

(I know of at least three)
You waste even more taxpayer money wasting time at your State Dept. job on many more forums. Government waste on display.

[jimmyz]

lol...have you seen their replies to me or any other liberal? The problem is that you and I and others fight the good fight and discuss matters with intelligence and reason.

They can't handle it, they know Trump's days are numbered, they're scared and reacting like little kids, so all they can do is attack and insult. Even the mods.
.... kumbyah! kumbyah (https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS751US751&q=kumbyah&nfpr=1&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj_tufqocXbAhW8IjQIHXHfAfEQvgUIJygB)!

[Just AnotherPerson]

lol...have you seen their replies to me or any other liberal? The problem is that you and I and others fight the good fight and discuss matters with intelligence and reason.

They can't handle it, they know Trump's days are numbered, they're scared and reacting like little kids, so all they can do is attack and insult. Even the mods.

It's really silly since I am not even a democrat or a liberal. I am just a person on the side of humanity. I hope that is not what it means to be a republican, a person against humanity. Because it seems that any talk of anything that has anything to do with goodness makes them more mad than anything else. I think it is only about 6 peoples idea of what it means to be a republican.

[Orion Rules]

When Obama was president he was loathed by most of us we called him the drone strike king. He was a ruthless killer through and through. During his 8 years he was responsible for roughly 2,200 civilian deaths. Not including enemy combatants. Also during his presidency the news was non stop filled with news and images of war. We were a nation at war and we knew we were at war. Every day you would see the atrocities on the news of bombed out buildings and schools and scores of the dead innocent children. https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/07/17/civilian-deaths-under-trump-already-higher-than-during-obamas-entire-presidency/23034059/

I was wondering why do we not see this on the news anymore. It almost feels like we are not at war anymore and that the innocent are not dying anymore. I decided to look it up online to see how many civilian were dying in the war compared to when Obama was in the house.

What I found astounded me. In his first year alone he had more civilian deaths than Obamas entire presidency! That is staggering! http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/07/u-s-air-strikes-are-killing-far-more-civilians-under-trump.html

The only information I could find is from a year ago. I wondered why then I found this https://www.denverpost.com/2018/06/01/we-should-know-how-many-civilians-die-in-u-s-strikes/
In a move that should set off alarm bells for all Americans, in early May the White House failed to comply with an Obama administration-era executive order requiring it to publicly report on the number of civilians harmed in U.S. counterterrorism strikes.

We don't get to see it on the news like when Obama was president. We don't get to see what is happening with the war or how many civilians are dying. I am not a fan of Obama in any way many including myself loathed him I spoke out against his tyranny loudly! I am no fan of killing the innocent, Especially when they do it in my name with my money! I didn't agree to this! http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/07/u-s-air-strikes-are-killing-far-more-civilians-under-trump.html

https://thinkprogress.org/trump-is-bombing-the-$#@!-out-of-civilians-af8ed672bd70/

We should know what our county is doing because they are doing it in our name, with our tax dollars we have the right to know. They do not have the right to withhold this kind of information from us.

It is being made to look like we are in peace times when the killing is worse than ever.

Is anyone else Angry to find this out?Thank you, an excerpt below from this article you provided for reading: https://thinkprogress.org/trump-is-bombing-the-shit-out-of-civilians-af8ed672bd70/#@!-out-of-civilians-af8ed672bd70/:


“I understand that ISIS is putting bases in civilian houses. But it’s the coalition that made the mistake and killed my family,” Salem said. “It doesn’t matter what we get — moral or financial compensation. It’s not going to be equal to one finger from my son. But at least someone needs to take responsibility.”

Other residents said much the same thing. “Nobody knocked on our door. Nobody asked us about what happened. Nobody investigated. We haven’t seen a single person,” Nawal Fathi Khala told the publication. “We are peaceful people. We never hurt anyone. Why should this happen to us?”

But outcry from besieged residents is unlikely to have much of an impact on U.S. military strategy. Towards the end of Obama’s presidency, the United States relaxed rules surrounding civilian casualties, moving away from the “near certainty standard” which allowed for lethal force only if civilians were highly unlikely to be harmed. That relaxation has continued under Trump, with no sign of letting up.

The relaxation goes beyond just Syria and Iraq. U.S. officials have said also that Trump has relaxed the rules of engagement in U.S. counter-terrorism activities in Somalia and Yemen. According to officials who spoke with the New York Times, Trump has declared parts of the two countries areas “of active hostilities” — meaning that different war-zone rules apply and that interagency vetting of proposed airstrikes isn’t necessary."


How out of touch is he, if the article is true, i.e., Mr. Trump, when the advocacy for more war was to become as in the least? If it is the truth of what is stated in the articles provided, this is not the first time such stories went out that were of a similar nature. So, what does it mean when The Book of Revelation makes mention of the mark of the beast? Of course, this is a theoretical question, as the deep state wishes to remain in power playing both sides of the President. Left, right, right left. Right in this forum it happens, but whatever. Who cares? The collateral damage is that nations that wage continuous war against the innocent will cease (to exist). Revelation 13:16, 14:9, Akhenaten is Obama and the last trumpet can't plead.

[Just AnotherPerson]

Thank you, an excerpt below from this article you provided for reading: https://thinkprogress.org/trump-is-bombing-the-$#@!-out-of-civilians-af8ed672bd70/#@!-out-of-civilians-af8ed672bd70/:


“I understand that ISIS is putting bases in civilian houses. But it’s the coalition that made the mistake and killed my family,” Salem said. “It doesn’t matter what we get — moral or financial compensation. It’s not going to be equal to one finger from my son. But at least someone needs to take responsibility.”

Other residents said much the same thing. “Nobody knocked on our door. Nobody asked us about what happened. Nobody investigated. We haven’t seen a single person,” Nawal Fathi Khala told the publication. “We are peaceful people. We never hurt anyone. Why should this happen to us?”

But outcry from besieged residents is unlikely to have much of an impact on U.S. military strategy. Towards the end of Obama’s presidency, the United States relaxed rules surrounding civilian casualties, moving away from the “near certainty standard” which allowed for lethal force only if civilians were highly unlikely to be harmed. That relaxation has continued under Trump, with no sign of letting up.

The relaxation goes beyond just Syria and Iraq. U.S. officials have said also that Trump has relaxed the rules of engagement in U.S. counter-terrorism activities in Somalia and Yemen. According to officials who spoke with the New York Times, Trump has declared parts of the two countries areas “of active hostilities” — meaning that different war-zone rules apply and that interagency vetting of proposed airstrikes isn’t necessary."


How out of touch is he, if the article is true, i.e., Mr. Trump, when the advocacy for more war was to become as in the least? If it is the truth of what is stated in the articles provided, this is not the first time such stories went out that were of a similar nature. So, what does it mean when The Book of Revelation makes mention of the mark of the beast? Of course, this is a theoretical question, as the deep state wishes to remain in power playing both sides of the President. Left, right, right left. Right in this forum it happens, but whatever. Who cares? The collateral damage is that nations that wage continuous war against the innocent will cease (to exist). Revelation 13:16, 14:9, Akhenaten is Obama and the last trumpet can't plead.

And on top of that he even took it to the next level when he shifted the powers to the pentagon. It's like he gave the green light and decided not to manage it at all. You are so right all that you said! Who is the Commander in Chief?

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/19/us/trump-shifting-authority-over-military-operations-back-to-pentagon.html

http://thehill.com/policy/defense/322259-trump-granted-commanders-expanded-authority-to-order-military-action-report

https://yournewswire.com/ww3-trump-military-authority/


Something else, we create terrorists when we kill their kids. How can a person not want revenge if you kill their family?

[MisterVeritis]

I am not leaving because of you freaks. I am Only staying because of you.
Alrighty then.

[Orion Rules]

And on top of that he even took it to the next level when he shifted the powers to the pentagon. [...]It's odd that there is the pentagon but then there is the pentagram. They took an ancient symbol and made it denote Satan. Satan Sanskrit, Jesus said in Matthew 24 a time of trouble would be on the Earth as there would seem to be no options. 'They' have waged a war against themselves that they will wish never began.

[donttread]

When Obama was president he was loathed by most of us we called him the drone strike king. He was a ruthless killer through and through. During his 8 years he was responsible for roughly 2,200 civilian deaths. Not including enemy combatants. Also during his presidency the news was non stop filled with news and images of war. We were a nation at war and we knew we were at war. Every day you would see the atrocities on the news of bombed out buildings and schools and scores of the dead innocent children. https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/07/17/civilian-deaths-under-trump-already-higher-than-during-obamas-entire-presidency/23034059/

I was wondering why do we not see this on the news anymore. It almost feels like we are not at war anymore and that the innocent are not dying anymore. I decided to look it up online to see how many civilian were dying in the war compared to when Obama was in the house.

What I found astounded me. In his first year alone he had more civilian deaths than Obamas entire presidency! That is staggering! http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/07/u-s-air-strikes-are-killing-far-more-civilians-under-trump.html

The only information I could find is from a year ago. I wondered why then I found this https://www.denverpost.com/2018/06/01/we-should-know-how-many-civilians-die-in-u-s-strikes/
In a move that should set off alarm bells for all Americans, in early May the White House failed to comply with an Obama administration-era executive order requiring it to publicly report on the number of civilians harmed in U.S. counterterrorism strikes.

We don't get to see it on the news like when Obama was president. We don't get to see what is happening with the war or how many civilians are dying. I am not a fan of Obama in any way many including myself loathed him I spoke out against his tyranny loudly! I am no fan of killing the innocent, Especially when they do it in my name with my money! I didn't agree to this! http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/07/u-s-air-strikes-are-killing-far-more-civilians-under-trump.html

https://thinkprogress.org/trump-is-bombing-the-shit-out-of-civilians-af8ed672bd70/

We should know what our county is doing because they are doing it in our name, with our tax dollars we have the right to know. They do not have the right to withhold this kind of information from us.

It is being made to look like we are in peace times when the killing is worse than ever.

Is anyone else Angry to find this out?


I guess the exact circumstances say urban warfare vs. drone strike villages for the endless parade of "terrorist number two men" while creating terrorist among those in those villages who watched their children or parents die would be a factor .
Having said that we are in way to many places waging way too many war like actions, doing way too much controlling and killing way to many people. Don't forget we are establishing the next generation of terrorist , rinse and repeat.
Here's what needs to be done: Most of it gradually of course, but on a designed schedule.

1) Stop buying ME oil while replacing it with other energy sources

2) Where there is danger withdraw and diplomats and before that withdraw their families
3) Issue Americans a 6 month warning. We will help you get out but after the 6 months you will be on your own . Period!
4) Stop doing businesses with any hostile region to include SA
5) Co-op with the Russians to produce Poppies at home.

6) Bring the troops home
7) Defend our homeland , which is you know .....at home.
8) Let the ME inflated economies return to something more realistic and help defund remaining terrorist
9) In 20 years America will not be a common target and they'll be busy killing the shit out of each other and we will not be dependent upon ME oil which has been the REAL national security threat of our time.

Or consent to perpetual war and stop pretending as a nation that it will be anything but that. The west has destabilized an entire region for oil that we have some of right here at home and need to use less of anyway. We are fighting self perpetuating dinosaur wars. But profits and political careers are being made

[stjames1_53]

I am not leaving because of you freaks. I am Only staying because of you. You got it all wrong! I never intended to stay in the first place I just came to get the word out about something really important maybe even to save you haters families lives. I came here to help you just in case. That way if something similar happens in your life you will recognize it and perhaps save a life.

I will not leave because I am weak. I was never going to stay. But since I wasn't wanted I just decided to stay and say some of the rest of the things that I think are important too.

Life is important to me, even yours. Even if you want me to die, who cares. I still care about your life, and for some reason that makes you dislike me even more. Strange mentality you boys have.
you are broken. You claim we call you names, but look who is actually engaging in name calling..................
No one is advocating you die, in any way. boys?
hell we're men...you're just a pissy little girl, by your own admission trying like hell to pick a fight.
Men........... I think we have a real live sock here. Any suggestions who it is?

[Just AnotherPerson]

I guess the exact circumstances say urban warfare vs. drone strike villages for the endless parade of "terrorist number two men" while creating terrorist among those in those villages who watched their children or parents die would be a factor .
Having said that we are in way to many places waging way too many war like actions, doing way too much controlling and killing way to many people. Don't forget we are establishing the next generation of terrorist , rinse and repeat.
Here's what needs to be done: Most of it gradually of course, but on a designed schedule.

1) Stop buying ME oil while replacing it with other energy sources

2) Where there is danger withdraw and diplomats and before that withdraw their families
3) Issue Americans a 6 month warning. We will help you get out but after the 6 months you will be on your own . Period!
4) Stop doing businesses with any hostile region to include SA
5) Co-op with the Russians to produce Poppies at home.

6) Bring the troops home
7) Defend our homeland , which is you know .....at home.
8) Let the ME inflated economies return to something more realistic and help defund remaining terrorist
9) In 20 years America will not be a common target and they'll be busy killing the $#@! out of each other and we will not be dependent upon ME oil which has been the REAL national security threat of our time.

Or consent to perpetual war and stop pretending as a nation that it will be anything but that. The west has destabilized an entire region for oil that we have some of right here at home and need to use less of anyway. We are fighting self perpetuating dinosaur wars. But profits and political careers are being made
100% Agreed!

[Just AnotherPerson]

you are broken. You claim we call you names, but look who is actually engaging in name calling..................
No one is advocating you die, in any way. boys?
hell we're men...you're just a pissy little girl, by your own admission trying like hell to pick a fight.
Men........... I think we have a real live sock here. Any suggestions who it is?
You are calling me a baby and here you are trying to get me kicked out of the forum. You are the baby. You are the pissy little girl! You were the one who attacked me! I posted a thread you didn't like it. You attacked I defended! Grow up. you are detracting from the seriousness of a really important topic. But that is what you always do. Knock it off BRAT!

[stjames1_53]

You are calling me a baby and here you are trying to get me kicked out of the forum. You are the baby. You are the pissy little girl! You were the one who attacked me! I posted a thread you didn't like it. You attacked I defended! Grow up. you are detracting from the seriousness of a really important topic. But that is what you always do. Knock it off BRAT!

http://cdn.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/MjAxNC0wZTA1NTU3MzczN2IzNjg3.png

is this BeThere by some chance?
Do you really expect us to stand still while you vainly try to kick our asses with your utopian dreams of unicorns and self-righteous attitude? then whine about it?
...try reporting some of us. See what it gets you, but I suspect you've already tried that and failed, again.

[Just AnotherPerson]

http://cdn.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/MjAxNC0wZTA1NTU3MzczN2IzNjg3.png

is this BeThere by some chance?
Do you really expect us to stand still while you vainly try to kick our asses with your utopian dreams of unicorns and self-righteous attitude? then whine about it?
...try reporting some of us. See what it gets you, but I suspect you've already tried that and failed, again.

If I wanted this drama I would have started a thread in purgatory mr intelligent. I started a serious thread here. It is you who wanted the drama and brought the drama to my thread. You are the causer of the drama. I made a serious post you brought nonsense to it. You should put me on your ignore list if you had two brain cells. You are the one following me around the forum attacking me any chance you get. Your words wont work here. Then you say it is me who did it. Freak!

You are talking about me reporting you are doing the callout to the mods to get me banned you punk Bi#ch! Not once have I tattled in this forum. You are the biggest punk here! Stop provoking me.

[Orion Rules]

As you were communicating to Just AnotherPerson per the killing of innocents in wars, and the mocking of utopian dreams:


stjames1_53:

is this BeThere by some chance?
Do you really expect us to stand still while you vainly try to kick our asses with your utopian dreams of unicorns and self-righteous attitude? then whine about it?
...try reporting some of us. See what it gets you, but I suspect you've already tried that and failed, again.


you are broken. You claim we call you names, but look who is actually engaging in name calling..................
No one is advocating you die, in any way. boys?
hell we're men...you're just a pissy little girl, by your own admission trying like hell to pick a fight.
Men........... I think we have a real live sock here. Any suggestions who it is?
It's me again, it is. It is because you are a single sock puppet called by other names. The man of fame who makes his way in order to dominate in the forums. Ya, the slick waltzes. You should go buy some extra boxes of tissue just for you because it is all yours. Posing as being for White rights, it would be better to just basically quit trying to disconnect people from who they are just as themselves. You're supposed to be the example(s) of the KKK and white sheets? What vanities.

The real Klan would not be for foreign wars which have nothing to do with White interests! Would you happen to be Bethere by chances? Your lackluster mentality basically sucks. You should have your mental state checked out for your next perceived crisis. You just seem to love causing those and then it's no worries. You're the one who picks fights, but you just never have any issues. It's been the 'most amazing' time taking away others' lives. Ptah can smash an atom's rules.

[Just AnotherPerson]

As you were communicating to Just AnotherPerson per the killing of innocents in wars, and the mocking of utopian dreams:




It's me again, it is. It is because you are a single sock puppet called by other names. The man of fame who makes his way in order to dominate in the forums. Ya, the slick waltzes. You should go buy some extra boxes of tissue just for you because it is all yours. Posing as being for White rights, it would be better to just basically quit trying to disconnect people from who they are just as themselves. You're supposed to be the example(s) of the KKK and white sheets? What vanities.

The real Klan would not be for foreign wars which have nothing to do with White interests! Would you happen to be Bethere by chances? Your lackluster mentality basically sucks. You should have your mental state checked out for your next perceived crisis. You just seem to love causing those and then it's no worries. You're the one who picks fights, but you just never have any issues. It's been the 'most amazing' time taking away others' lives. Ptah can smash an atom's rules.

Maat

[Tahuyaman]

A frightening number of Americans are idiots. We are heading toward third world status.

[Peter1469]

When Obama was president he was loathed by most of us we called him the drone strike king. He was a ruthless killer through and through. During his 8 years he was responsible for roughly 2,200 civilian deaths. Not including enemy combatants. Also during his presidency the news was non stop filled with news and images of war. We were a nation at war and we knew we were at war. Every day you would see the atrocities on the news of bombed out buildings and schools and scores of the dead innocent children. https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/07/17/civilian-deaths-under-trump-already-higher-than-during-obamas-entire-presidency/23034059/

I was wondering why do we not see this on the news anymore. It almost feels like we are not at war anymore and that the innocent are not dying anymore. I decided to look it up online to see how many civilian were dying in the war compared to when Obama was in the house.

What I found astounded me. In his first year alone he had more civilian deaths than Obamas entire presidency! That is staggering! http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/07/u-s-air-strikes-are-killing-far-more-civilians-under-trump.html

The only information I could find is from a year ago. I wondered why then I found this https://www.denverpost.com/2018/06/01/we-should-know-how-many-civilians-die-in-u-s-strikes/
In a move that should set off alarm bells for all Americans, in early May the White House failed to comply with an Obama administration-era executive order requiring it to publicly report on the number of civilians harmed in U.S. counterterrorism strikes.

We don't get to see it on the news like when Obama was president. We don't get to see what is happening with the war or how many civilians are dying. I am not a fan of Obama in any way many including myself loathed him I spoke out against his tyranny loudly! I am no fan of killing the innocent, Especially when they do it in my name with my money! I didn't agree to this! http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/07/u-s-air-strikes-are-killing-far-more-civilians-under-trump.html

https://thinkprogress.org/trump-is-bombing-the-shit-out-of-civilians-af8ed672bd70/

We should know what our county is doing because they are doing it in our name, with our tax dollars we have the right to know. They do not have the right to withhold this kind of information from us.

It is being made to look like we are in peace times when the killing is worse than ever.

Is anyone else Angry to find this out?

What about Obama's Disposition Matrix (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disposition_Matrix) that included American citizens?


he Disposition Matrix, informally known as a kill list, is a database of information for tracking, capturing, rendering (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraordinary_rendition), or killing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Targeted_killing) suspected enemies of the United States (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_government_of_the_United_States).[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disposition_Matrix#cite_note-wp1023-1) Developed by the Obama administration (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidency_of_Barack_Obama)beginning in 2010, the "Disposition Matrix" goes beyond existing kill lists and is intended to become a permanent fixture of U.S. policy.[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disposition_Matrix#cite_note-wp1023-1) The process determining criteria for killing is not public and was heavily shaped by National Counterterrorism Director and former Central Intelligence Agency (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Intelligence_Agency) (CIA) Director John O. Brennan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_O._Brennan).[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disposition_Matrix#cite_note-wp1024-2)

Though White House (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House), National Counterterrorism Center (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Counterterrorism_Center) (NCTC), and CIA spokespeople have declined to comment on the database, officials have stated privately that kill lists will expand "for at least another decade", if not indefinitely. One official stated "it’s a necessary part of what we do".[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disposition_Matrix#cite_note-wp1023-1) Paul R. Pillar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_R._Pillar), the former deputy director of the CIA’s counterterrorism center, has stated, "We are looking at something that is potentially indefinite".[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disposition_Matrix#cite_note-wp1023-1)


The database's existence was revealed in a three-part series published by The Washington Post (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Washington_Post) newspaper. It noted that as of their publication, the number of civilian and militant casualties resulting from U.S. drone strikes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drone_strike) would soon exceed the number of people killed in the September 11 attacks (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks).[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disposition_Matrix#cite_note-wp1023-1)

[Peter1469]

It's really silly since I am not even a democrat or a liberal. I am just a person on the side of humanity. I hope that is not what it means to be a republican, a person against humanity. Because it seems that any talk of anything that has anything to do with goodness makes them more mad than anything else. I think it is only about 6 peoples idea of what it means to be a republican.
You ought to be advocating for third parties. Both (D) and (R) are utterly corrupt.

[Peter1469]

Thank you, an excerpt below from this article you provided for reading: https://thinkprogress.org/trump-is-bombing-the-shit-out-of-civilians-af8ed672bd70/#@!-out-of-civilians-af8ed672bd70/:


“I understand that ISIS is putting bases in civilian houses. But it’s the coalition that made the mistake and killed my family,” Salem said. “It doesn’t matter what we get — moral or financial compensation. It’s not going to be equal to one finger from my son. But at least someone needs to take responsibility.”

Other residents said much the same thing. “Nobody knocked on our door. Nobody asked us about what happened. Nobody investigated. We haven’t seen a single person,” Nawal Fathi Khala told the publication. “We are peaceful people. We never hurt anyone. Why should this happen to us?”

But outcry from besieged residents is unlikely to have much of an impact on U.S. military strategy. Towards the end of Obama’s presidency, the United States relaxed rules surrounding civilian casualties, moving away from the “near certainty standard” which allowed for lethal force only if civilians were highly unlikely to be harmed. That relaxation has continued under Trump, with no sign of letting up.

The relaxation goes beyond just Syria and Iraq. U.S. officials have said also that Trump has relaxed the rules of engagement in U.S. counter-terrorism activities in Somalia and Yemen. According to officials who spoke with the New York Times, Trump has declared parts of the two countries areas “of active hostilities” — meaning that different war-zone rules apply and that interagency vetting of proposed airstrikes isn’t necessary."


How out of touch is he, if the article is true, i.e., Mr. Trump, when the advocacy for more war was to become as in the least? If it is the truth of what is stated in the articles provided, this is not the first time such stories went out that were of a similar nature. So, what does it mean when The Book of Revelation makes mention of the mark of the beast? Of course, this is a theoretical question, as the deep state wishes to remain in power playing both sides of the President. Left, right, right left. Right in this forum it happens, but whatever. Who cares? The collateral damage is that nations that wage continuous war against the innocent will cease (to exist). Revelation 13:16, 14:9, Akhenaten is Obama and the last trumpet can't plead.
Expect this trend to continue in the future. Wars will be fought in mega-cities.

[Peter1469]

A frightening number of Americans are idiots. We are heading toward third world status.

I don't think so. Our economy is too strong.

[silvereyes]

I visit there and post there daily. It is a shame it does not work correctly with the Chrome browser.

Yes it does. That's what I use.

[silvereyes]

Recognizing that you and your ilk are driving this country towards civil war is not "seditious". Don't be ridiculous

Yah, right.
It's people with this attitude of yours that's doing that.

[stjames1_53]

A frightening number of Americans are idiots. We are heading toward third world status.

They do seem determined to make us into a banana republic. They do the work of the globalists...........

[stjames1_53]

BTW, I'll be concerned when the casualty count reaches Lincoln's number.

[MisterVeritis]

Yes it does. That's what I use.
I cannot search for new posts successfully.

[DGUtley]

WARNING -- Quit bickering, talking about each other and discuss the thread instead. Continued bickering will result in infractions.

[donttread]

You ought to be advocating for third parties. Both (D) and (R) are utterly corrupt.


If they can even be considered truly separate parties. What a combined gig their two mobs have. 95% of the political power and votes no matter how badly they fail or how much they fuck us over. Imagine a business that hired outside management teams going back and forth between two of them when one of them failed. How long would such a business remain viable?

[donttread]

They do seem determined to make us into a banana republic. They do the work of the globalists...........


Support localism within states with real rights and a limited federal government

[stjames1_53]

Support localism within states with real rights and a limited federal government

I do. I make sure I vote for the most responsible individual I can find. As of today, there are two repub sheriffs and one dem running for office. The two repubs have zip experience on the road, but tout their administrative work, one from California, as their list of accomplishments. I'll vote for the one that has"road" experience. a dem, no less

[donttread]

I do. I make sure I vote for the most responsible individual I can find. As of today, there are two repub sheriffs and one dem running for office. The two repubs have zip experience on the road, but tout their administrative work, one from California, as their list of accomplishments. I'll vote for the one that has"road" experience. a dem, no less

The Sheriffs may someday be "the people's " only police force. The thieving asshole down south not with standing.

[The Xl]

They're all psychopaths, Trump is no different.

[stjames1_53]

ok, what do you guys propose? Are we to sacrifice thirty guys to get one? Because it'll damned sure end up that way.
I think some would have us just lay down and let Islam take over.
They care little for consequences as long as it fits their narrative.
If we go for singular elimination, it won't be long before they start in with the assassination narrative................

[The Xl]

ok, what do you guys propose? Are we to sacrifice thirty guys to get one? Because it'll damned sure end up that way.
I think some would have us just lay down and let Islam take over.
They care little for consequences as long as it fits their narrative.
If we go for singular elimination, it won't be long before they start in with the assassination narrative................

We don't need to be over there.

[Tahuyaman]

I don't think so. Our economy is too strong.
More and more p pole are being trained to oppose those things which keep our economy strong.

[stjames1_53]

We don't need to be over there.

ok, so we abandon those we have treaties with. I'm good with that, I suppose....... but how long before we are fighting them here?

[Tahuyaman]

lol...have you seen their replies to me or any other liberal? The problem is that you and I and others fight the good fight and discuss matters with intelligence and reason.


please show any time you have discussed any issue by employing intelligence and reason.

[The Xl]

ok, so we abandon those we have treaties with. I'm good with that, I suppose....... but how long before we are fighting them here?

Ww aren't fighting them over here unless we go full retard and bring them over here at a mass quantity unvetted.

[Peter1469]

ok, so we abandon those we have treaties with. I'm good with that, I suppose....... but how long before we are fighting them here?

We have no treaty with with Iraq or Afghanistan.

[Mini Me]

You are told that it is not murder so that you can live with doing it. You believed it, that is your own loss of humanity, a sad day for the world. Because of one mans beliefs the innocent of the world must die. Like you are a F-ing God who gets to choose if a child lives or dies!

When the citizens learn that what you say is true it will not be your rebellion that wins! I am not for rebellion but if you do force a rebellion on the people and you try to force a tyranny you will not make it.

I also don't buy your rebellion. I know 100% for sure if it were true you would be in prison. With the repeal of Net neutrality nothing is private. Your every conversation is now "lawfully" accessible. Your plan is Treason. If it is true. If it is true you and no one has knocked on your door already. You are certainly on a watch list. Your every conversation is being funneled through a fusion center and being dissected! Even your thoughts are being recorded.

If you are exempt from this then you are working for the United States Government an agent to lure in dissidents and they will go to prison one by one while you play on the forums.

The rebellion was a comparison and so yes it is relevant, and comparison can be given to help a certain person understand what you are saying.

The FEMA fusion Centers(death camps) can hold millions! The plastic coffins can seat 3 people.

Dick Tator Trump thinks he can do anything he wants!And his crowd of fanatics will go along with it!

[Agent Zero]

ok, what do you guys propose? Are we to sacrifice thirty guys to get one? Because it'll damned sure end up that way.
I think some would have us just lay down and let Islam take over.
They care little for consequences as long as it fits their narrative.
If we go for singular elimination, it won't be long before they start in with the assassination narrative................
See every Mister V post.

[Peter1469]

The FEMA fusion Centers(death camps) can hold millions! The plastic coffins can seat 3 people.

Dick Tator Trump thinks he can do anything he wants!And his crowd of fanatics will go along with it!



Ah no. I have been in meetings with FEMA. They refuse to allow their facilities for the nut stuff you describe above.

[Agent Zero]

We have no treaty with with Iraq or Afghanistan.

You have credibility. Go back to the nursing home. Or asylum.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.–Afghanistan_Strategic_Partnership_Agreement

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Treaties_of_Iraq

[stjames1_53]

We have no treaty with with Iraq or Afghanistan.

do we have any other treaties with other countries from any areas that are currently under attack?
Here's my take. These people travel to other countries where we are "friendly" with. For the large part they are usually detected, but not always. Say, Canada allows what seems to be a perfectly legit immigrant in. How do we control that border so that they don't get in here? It's a damned tough call, but we cannot stop all of them. Eventually, one or two will slip in and do some serious damage. Also, we cannot vet those who are already here.
IMO, we should err on the side of caution. If Israel is attack by radical Islamist, are we not obligated to render aid and assistance?
They are looking for a way to nuke someone. I just hope it isn't us.
Can it be that it is inevitable?

[Peter1469]

You have credibility. Go back to the nursing home. Or asylum.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.–Afghanistan_Strategic_Partnership_Agreement

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Treaties_of_Iraq


Those are not treaties you fool.

[MisterVeritis]

See every Mister V post.
I am not surprised by your lack of the simplest of abilities. Is reading or comprehension your greatest problem? Is English a second language for you?

[MisterVeritis]

You have credibility. Go back to the nursing home. Or asylum.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.–Afghanistan_Strategic_Partnership_Agreement
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Treaties_of_Iraq
Please point out the name of the treaty you believe is in force.

[Tahuyaman]

Those are not treaties you fool.

It’s incredible.

[Tahuyaman]

You have credibility. Go back to the nursing home. Or asylum.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.–Afghanistan_Strategic_Partnership_Agreement

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Treaties_of_Iraq

You should stop.

[DGUtley]

http://cdn.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/MjAxNC0wZTA1NTU3MzczN2IzNjg3.png

is this BeThere by some chance?
Do you really expect us to stand still while you vainly try to kick our asses with your utopian dreams of unicorns and self-righteous attitude? then whine about it?
...try reporting some of us. See what it gets you, but I suspect you've already tried that and failed, again.


If I wanted this drama I would have started a thread in purgatory mr intelligent. I started a serious thread here. It is you who wanted the drama and brought the drama to my thread. You are the causer of the drama. I made a serious post you brought nonsense to it. You should put me on your ignore list if you had two brain cells. You are the one following me around the forum attacking me any chance you get. Your words wont work here. Then you say it is me who did it. Freak!

You are talking about me reporting you are doing the callout to the mods to get me banned you punk Bi#ch! Not once have I tattled in this forum. You are the biggest punk here! Stop provoking me.
NOTICE — @stjames1_53 (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1928) and Just AnotherPerson TB’d for bickering.

[Peter1469]

When Obama was president he was loathed by most of us we called him the drone strike king. He was a ruthless killer through and through. During his 8 years he was responsible for roughly 2,200 civilian deaths. Not including enemy combatants. Also during his presidency the news was non stop filled with news and images of war. We were a nation at war and we knew we were at war. Every day you would see the atrocities on the news of bombed out buildings and schools and scores of the dead innocent children. https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/07/17/civilian-deaths-under-trump-already-higher-than-during-obamas-entire-presidency/23034059/

I was wondering why do we not see this on the news anymore. It almost feels like we are not at war anymore and that the innocent are not dying anymore. I decided to look it up online to see how many civilian were dying in the war compared to when Obama was in the house.

What I found astounded me. In his first year alone he had more civilian deaths than Obamas entire presidency! That is staggering! http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/07/u-s-air-strikes-are-killing-far-more-civilians-under-trump.html

The only information I could find is from a year ago. I wondered why then I found this https://www.denverpost.com/2018/06/01/we-should-know-how-many-civilians-die-in-u-s-strikes/
In a move that should set off alarm bells for all Americans, in early May the White House failed to comply with an Obama administration-era executive order requiring it to publicly report on the number of civilians harmed in U.S. counterterrorism strikes.

We don't get to see it on the news like when Obama was president. We don't get to see what is happening with the war or how many civilians are dying. I am not a fan of Obama in any way many including myself loathed him I spoke out against his tyranny loudly! I am no fan of killing the innocent, Especially when they do it in my name with my money! I didn't agree to this! http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/07/u-s-air-strikes-are-killing-far-more-civilians-under-trump.html

https://thinkprogress.org/trump-is-bombing-the-shit-out-of-civilians-af8ed672bd70/

We should know what our county is doing because they are doing it in our name, with our tax dollars we have the right to know. They do not have the right to withhold this kind of information from us.

It is being made to look like we are in peace times when the killing is worse than ever.

Is anyone else Angry to find this out?
I don't recall any lib calling Obama out on his drone kills. Even the American citizens.