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donttread
06-12-2018, 05:40 PM
So when my youngest ( nearly 28) is my age ( not 28) , if we had made a serious movement towards an AI work force the human work force work week should be getting shorter but would they still get their time's equivlent of 40 hours pay? More? Less?
Would the upward and downwards transfers of wealth and cash continue? Would the country look like utopia or Idiocracy?
Who's answer on a another thread brought this question to mind.

Peter1469
06-12-2018, 07:20 PM
Other jobs would emerge. People would have to have the foresight and drive to learn the new skills and break into new markets.

MisterVeritis
06-12-2018, 07:26 PM
We already live in an automated world. There will always be plenty of work for people who choose to work. The ones who chose not to should go hungry.

Don
06-12-2018, 08:51 PM
Automation makes workers more productive and in many cases saves their bodies from the abuses of manual labor. Go home less tired and wore out and have a back and knees that still works when you get old. Other than that things would have to balance out if the "rich" want to stay rich. Someone has to buy their products and services and they have to have the means to do so. Unless the "rich" plan to kill all of us non rich off and rely on machines to serve their every need.

Dr. Who
06-12-2018, 10:12 PM
Automation makes workers more productive and in many cases saves their bodies from the abuses of manual labor. Go home less tired and wore out and have a back and knees that still works when you get old. Other than that things would have to balance out if the "rich" want to stay rich. Someone has to buy their products and services and they have to have the means to do so. Unless the "rich" plan to kill all of us non rich off and rely on machines to serve their every need.
People are being displaced on a daily basis and often now are taking poorer paying jobs in the service industry that has not yet been as automated. Employment numbers don't tell the whole story. A lot of the former middle class is no longer part of the middle class. I have a friend who is a receptionist. She's now 57 and her employer is considering automating her position. She has no pension plan and modest investments because she never made all that much money and half of her income goes to paying her rent. She's not a shopaholic nor does she eat out. She has family, so she will never live on the street, but at her age, another job won't come easily.

donttread
06-13-2018, 07:12 AM
Other jobs would emerge. People would have to have the foresight and drive to learn the new skills and break into new markets.

Then what's the point? If we can't have more leisure time why automate at all? Megacorp profits? Also we don't have enough good jobs as it is

donttread
06-13-2018, 07:13 AM
We already live in an automated world. There will always be plenty of work for people who choose to work. The ones who chose not to should go hungry.

Again we don't have enough good jobs or even full time jobs now,

donttread
06-13-2018, 07:14 AM
Automation makes workers more productive and in many cases saves their bodies from the abuses of manual labor. Go home less tired and wore out and have a back and knees that still works when you get old. Other than that things would have to balance out if the "rich" want to stay rich. Someone has to buy their products and services and they have to have the means to do so. Unless the "rich" plan to kill all of us non rich off and rely on machines to serve their every need.



Yes so we can go to the gym to wreck our bodies instead of a medium pace exercise at work for 8 hours?

donttread
06-13-2018, 07:16 AM
People are being displaced on a daily basis and often now are taking poorer paying jobs in the service industry that has not yet been as automated. Employment numbers don't tell the whole story. A lot of the former middle class is no longer part of the middle class. I have a friend who is a receptionist. She's now 57 and her employer is considering automating her position. She has no pension plan and modest investments because she never made all that much money and half of her income goes to paying her rent. She's not a shopaholic nor does she eat out. She has family, so she will never live on the street, but at her age, another job won't come easily.


Unemployment is not so much the problem as under employment is

MisterVeritis
06-13-2018, 09:45 AM
Again we don't have enough good jobs or even full time jobs now,
The unemployment rate is 3.8%.

If you don't like any of the available jobs make one yourself.

Peter1469
06-13-2018, 03:20 PM
Then what's the point? If we can't have more leisure time why automate at all? Megacorp profits? Also we don't have enough good jobs as it is

Do you mean robotics- we have had automation for a long time.

Why bother? Probably because you won't stand in the way of progress. Better figure out how to live with it, or better yet, profit from it.

donttread
06-13-2018, 07:55 PM
The unemployment rate is 3.8%.

If you don't like any of the available jobs make one yourself.


Sure and let them eat "Cake" while they're at it. A masters degreed person flipping burgers is employed but he is underemployed

Peter1469
06-13-2018, 07:58 PM
Sure and let them eat "Cake" while they're at it. A masters degreed person flipping burgers is employed but he is underemployed

What is the master's in? And if that is all the drive that person has, he is destined to be unsuccessful regardless of the circumstances. He will likely be the least productive burger flipper at his McDs.

MisterVeritis
06-13-2018, 07:59 PM
Sure and let them eat "Cake" while they're at it. A masters degreed person flipping burgers is employed but he is underemployed
If you have a worthless masters degree that is on you. Anyone stupid enough to get a worthless masters degree is fully employed making hamburgers.