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Mini Me
06-15-2018, 07:04 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/11/opinion/trump-quisling-enablers.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

As I said, however, this isn’t a column about Trump. It is, instead, about the people who are enabling his betrayal of America: the inner circle of officials and media personalities who are willing to back him up whatever he says or does, and the wider set of politicians — basically the entire Republican delegation in Congress — who have the power and constitutional obligation to stop what he’s doing, but won’t lift a finger in America’s defense.

It’s important to understand that the fight Trump is picking with our allies isn’t about any real conflict of interest — because they are not, in fact, doing the things he accuses them of doing. No, Canada and Europe aren’t imposing “massive tariffs (https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1004846478253273088?lang=en)” on U.S. goods: A vast majority of U.S. exports enter Canada tariff-free, and the average European tariff is only 3 percent (https://www.export.gov/article?id=European-union-Import-Tariffs). These are simple facts, not disputable issues.

So Trump is justifying his attempt to destroy the Western alliance by accusing our allies of misdeeds that exist only in his imagination....

But that’s Trump, a man whose presidency has been marked by around seven false statements (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/05/01/president-trump-has-made-3001-false-or-misleading-claims-so-far/?utm_term=.b3b67761901c) per day in office. .....

Why are Republican politicians unwilling to discharge their constitutional responsibilities? Relatively few of them, one suspects, actually want a trade war, let alone a breakup of the Western alliance. And many of them, one also suspects, are well aware that a de facto foreign agent sits in the Oval Office. But they are immobilized by a combination of venality and cowardice....

What all this tells us is that the problem facing America runs much deeper than Trump’s personal awfulness. One of our two major parties appears to be hopelessly, irredeemably corrupt.


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MisterVeritis
06-15-2018, 07:07 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/11/opinion/trump-quisling-enablers.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

As I said, however, this isn’t a column about Trump. It is, instead, about the people who are enabling his betrayal of America: the inner circle of officials and media personalities who are willing to back him up whatever he says or does, and the wider set of politicians — basically the entire Republican delegation in Congress — who have the power and constitutional obligation to stop what he’s doing, but won’t lift a finger in America’s defense.

It’s important to understand that the fight Trump is picking with our allies isn’t about any real conflict of interest — because they are not, in fact, doing the things he accuses them of doing. No, Canada and Europe aren’t imposing “massive tariffs (https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1004846478253273088?lang=en)” on U.S. goods: A vast majority of U.S. exports enter Canada tariff-free, and the average European tariff is only 3 percent (https://www.export.gov/article?id=European-union-Import-Tariffs). These are simple facts, not disputable issues.

So Trump is justifying his attempt to destroy the Western alliance by accusing our allies of misdeeds that exist only in his imagination....

But that’s Trump, a man whose presidency has been marked by around seven false statements (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/05/01/president-trump-has-made-3001-false-or-misleading-claims-so-far/?utm_term=.b3b67761901c) per day in office. .....

Why are Republican politicians unwilling to discharge their constitutional responsibilities? Relatively few of them, one suspects, actually want a trade war, let alone a breakup of the Western alliance. And many of them, one also suspects, are well aware that a de facto foreign agent sits in the Oval Office. But they are immobilized by a combination of venality and cowardice....

What all this tells us is that the problem facing America runs much deeper than Trump’s personal awfulness. One of our two major parties appears to be hopelessly, irredeemably corrupt.


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Yawn. What time is it?

Peter1469
06-15-2018, 08:49 PM
Krugman is a hack.

Mini Me
06-15-2018, 09:48 PM
Krugman is a hack.

No, he is a Nobel Prize winning economist!

Lets see your prize?

KathyS
06-16-2018, 12:59 AM
No, he is a Nobel Prize winning economist!

Lets see your prize?



Obama didn't do sh$t for his Nobel, so what's your point?

Common
06-16-2018, 03:45 AM
Geez if you are going to post someone scribing a hate piece of the GOP please dont make it krugman, the guy is never right. Hes a doomsayer whos tales of woe never come true.

Chris
06-16-2018, 05:32 AM
"Krugman speaks the truth about the GOP and Trump!"

"As I said, however, this isn’t a column about Trump....the fight Trump is picking...So Trump...But that’s Trump...Trump’s personal awfulness"


TDS.

Chris
06-16-2018, 05:36 AM
Krugman: "No, Canada and Europe aren’t imposing “massive tariffs” on U.S. goods"

"Under the current system, U.S. imports above quota levels are subject to high tariffs (e.g., 245 percent for cheese, 298 percent for butter)" @ https://www.export.gov/article?id=Canada-Import-Tariffs

Krugman: "...accusing our allies of misdeeds that exist only in his imagination...."

Peter1469
06-16-2018, 06:52 AM
No, he is a Nobel Prize winning economist!

Lets see your prize?



Yes. Read the stuff about his work that got him a noble. It is boring and it has nothing to do with politics.

Krugman has turned himself into a clown-hack.

DGUtley
06-16-2018, 06:52 AM
No, he is a Nobel Prize winning economist! Lets see your prize?

Obama got a Nobel, that means nothing to me.

Chris
06-16-2018, 08:04 AM
Krugman's a decent neo-Keynsian, for what that's worth, not much, who turned political hack.

MisterVeritis
06-16-2018, 08:49 AM
Geez if you are going to post someone scribing a hate piece of the GOP please dont make it krugman, the guy is never right. Hes a doomsayer whos tales of woe never come true.
Fortunately. But then look whose team he is on.

hanger4
06-16-2018, 09:15 AM
No, he is a Nobel Prize winning economist!Lets see your prize? Yasser Arafat collected one for peace, your point ??

Mini Me
06-16-2018, 10:20 AM
Obama didn't do sh$t for his Nobel, so what's your point?

This isn't about Obama, nice try at DIVERSION! Read the Op again! Putting your party over the needs of the country is not just unjust, it is TREASONOUS!

Mini Me
06-16-2018, 10:29 AM
Yes. Read the stuff about his work that got him a noble. It is boring and it has nothing to do with politics.

Perhaps you would prefer Joseph Stiglitz another noted economist who thinks very much like Krugman. I notice no one has yet to provide any counter argument against what Krugman wrote.

This is to be expected amongst Cult 45 Trumproids.
Krugman has turned himself into a clown-hack.

countryboy
06-16-2018, 10:37 AM
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/11/opinion/trump-quisling-enablers.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

As I said, however, this isn’t a column about Trump. It is, instead, about the people who are enabling his betrayal of America: the inner circle of officials and media personalities who are willing to back him up whatever he says or does, and the wider set of politicians — basically the entire Republican delegation in Congress — who have the power and constitutional obligation to stop what he’s doing, but won’t lift a finger in America’s defense.

It’s important to understand that the fight Trump is picking with our allies isn’t about any real conflict of interest — because they are not, in fact, doing the things he accuses them of doing. No, Canada and Europe aren’t imposing “massive tariffs (https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1004846478253273088?lang=en)” on U.S. goods: A vast majority of U.S. exports enter Canada tariff-free, and the average European tariff is only 3 percent (https://www.export.gov/article?id=European-union-Import-Tariffs). These are simple facts, not disputable issues.

So Trump is justifying his attempt to destroy the Western alliance by accusing our allies of misdeeds that exist only in his imagination....

But that’s Trump, a man whose presidency has been marked by around seven false statements (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/05/01/president-trump-has-made-3001-false-or-misleading-claims-so-far/?utm_term=.b3b67761901c) per day in office. .....

Why are Republican politicians unwilling to discharge their constitutional responsibilities? Relatively few of them, one suspects, actually want a trade war, let alone a breakup of the Western alliance. And many of them, one also suspects, are well aware that a de facto foreign agent sits in the Oval Office. But they are immobilized by a combination of venality and cowardice....

What all this tells us is that the problem facing America runs much deeper than Trump’s personal awfulness. One of our two major parties appears to be hopelessly, irredeemably corrupt.


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Leftist loon trashes Trump, news at eleven. http://www.animated-smileys.com/emoticons/animated-smileys-rolleyes-08.gif

DGUtley
06-16-2018, 10:38 AM
Well, let's take one of Krugman's opening statements and pick that apart: "This is not a column about whether Donald Trump is a quisling — a politician who serves the interests of foreign masters at his own country’s expense. Any reasonable doubts about that reality were put to rest by the events of the past few days, when he defended Russia while attacking our closest allies."

Look at what Krugman does here. He states that Trump is serving Russia's interests and that there's no reasonable doubt here b/c Trump said that Russia should be back in the G8 and because Trump has criticized our closest allies. You realize that there's no connection between the two, right? He didn't suggest that Russia should be back in the G8 to the detriment of our closest allies? There's no connection between the two things that Krugman utilizes as erasing all doubt to conclude that Trump is a Quisling. He therefore then goes to indict the rest of us.

Krugman's argument is illogical and full-on TDS. He's just upset that the stock market hasn't cratered like he promised that it would after 11/7/16.

MisterVeritis
06-16-2018, 12:39 PM
This isn't about Obama, nice try at DIVERSION! Read the Op again! Putting your party over the needs of the country is not just unjust, it is TREASONOUS!
President Trump has put this nation ahead of other nations.

He is moving closer to a government under the Constitution rather than looking for ways to subvert it.

MisterVeritis
06-16-2018, 12:41 PM
Strange. Yet another quote box failure.

barb012
06-16-2018, 03:38 PM
That is exactly what Obama did as President.

stjames1_53
06-16-2018, 03:38 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/11/opinion/trump-quisling-enablers.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

As I said, however, this isn’t a column about Trump. It is, instead, about the people who are enabling his betrayal of America: the inner circle of officials and media personalities who are willing to back him up whatever he says or does, and the wider set of politicians — basically the entire Republican delegation in Congress — who have the power and constitutional obligation to stop what he’s doing, but won’t lift a finger in America’s defense.

It’s important to understand that the fight Trump is picking with our allies isn’t about any real conflict of interest — because they are not, in fact, doing the things he accuses them of doing. No, Canada and Europe aren’t imposing “massive tariffs (https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1004846478253273088?lang=en)” on U.S. goods: A vast majority of U.S. exports enter Canada tariff-free, and the average European tariff is only 3 percent (https://www.export.gov/article?id=European-union-Import-Tariffs). These are simple facts, not disputable issues.

So Trump is justifying his attempt to destroy the Western alliance by accusing our allies of misdeeds that exist only in his imagination....

But that’s Trump, a man whose presidency has been marked by around seven false statements (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/05/01/president-trump-has-made-3001-false-or-misleading-claims-so-far/?utm_term=.b3b67761901c) per day in office. .....

Why are Republican politicians unwilling to discharge their constitutional responsibilities? Relatively few of them, one suspects, actually want a trade war, let alone a breakup of the Western alliance. And many of them, one also suspects, are well aware that a de facto foreign agent sits in the Oval Office. But they are immobilized by a combination of venality and cowardice....

What all this tells us is that the problem facing America runs much deeper than Trump’s personal awfulness. One of our two major parties appears to be hopelessly, irredeemably corrupt.


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You people can't take a joke! Have no sense of humor, no empathy, no conscience.

Tahuyaman
06-16-2018, 04:32 PM
Krugman is a hack.


Only another hack could assign any credibility to him.

Tahuyaman
06-16-2018, 04:34 PM
Krugman is a hack.


No, he is a Nobel Prize winning economist!

Lets see your prize?

He's finally mastering the quote function. That's progress.