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Robo
06-27-2018, 09:29 AM
Yesterday Republicans in Utah selected Mitt Romney by a wide margen to be their candidate in November for the U.S. Senate.






I have to wonder what exactly Republicans see in the Never Trumper Romney to like. Romney is the guy that went on a rampage of name calling directed at Trump during the Republican primary for the Presidency. He called Trump just about every name in the derogatory dictionary including a clown, phony and con-man. Now he's promising the folks in Utah to work with the President.






Romney is the same Mitt Romney that was Governor of leftist Massachusetts who introduced the rightwing Heritage Foundation's "Affordable Healthcare" farce, (that they later sh**canned deciding it was a bleeping joke), into the law in Massachusetts. That same law becoming Obama's "Affordable Care Act," i.e. Obamacare.






Mitt Romney is the same guy that when ask what the greatest danger was to the United States, he identified Russia and their smaller economy than the State of Texas. He ignored the national debt, China, Iran and North Korea. or even Islamic terrorism.






I don't know anything about Romney's Democrat opponent in November, but I doubt that he'd be much worse for the U.S. Senate than the RINO, Democrat Lite Romney. He'll take over where War Hawk John McCain leaves off. Just another egotistical mindless maverick with few principles.

Common
06-27-2018, 09:53 AM
Romney will win the senate I believe, hes "said" during the campaign he supports trump and supports his winning in 2020
we'll see he switchs sides as much as bloomberg

Captdon
06-27-2018, 10:12 AM
Any Republican instead of any Democrat.

Common
06-27-2018, 10:50 AM
Any Republican instead of any Democrat.
That is something I never understood , when McCain ran against Obama on every forum conservatives said they werent voting.

When you have 2 choices you have no other choices other than to vote for lesser of the two evils or not vote and hope the lesser of the evils wins.

Captdon
06-27-2018, 11:23 AM
That is something I never understood , when McCain ran against Obama on every forum conservatives said they werent voting.

When you have 2 choices you have no other choices other than to vote for lesser of the two evils or not vote and hope the lesser of the evils wins.


Not voting is useless. Someone is going to win. Yes, i do hold my nose when I vote , at times. In this day and age, I can't vote for a Democrat because I know what they want and how they will vote.

Even McCain sometimes gets it right.

I held my nose in 2016 but I wouldn't change what I did.

Tahuyaman
06-27-2018, 11:53 AM
I am not a fan of Romney, but he’s a better choice than some hard leftist. However, that’s up to the people of Utah to decide.

MisterVeritis
06-27-2018, 12:18 PM
That is something I never understood , when McCain ran against Obama on every forum conservatives said they werent voting.

When you have 2 choices you have no other choices other than to vote for lesser of the two evils or not vote and hope the lesser of the evils wins.
McCain is an evil man. He hates conservatives as much as he loves TV cameras.

Major Lambda
06-27-2018, 12:47 PM
Yesterday Republicans in Utah selected Mitt Romney by a wide margen to be their candidate in November for the U.S. Senate.






I have to wonder what exactly Republicans see in the Never Trumper Romney to like. Romney is the guy that went on a rampage of name calling directed at Trump during the Republican primary for the Presidency. He called Trump just about every name in the derogatory dictionary including a clown, phony and con-man. Now he's promising the folks in Utah to work with the President.






Romney is the same Mitt Romney that was Governor of leftist Massachusetts who introduced the rightwing Heritage Foundation's "Affordable Healthcare" farce, (that they later sh**canned deciding it was a bleeping joke), into the law in Massachusetts. That same law becoming Obama's "Affordable Care Act," i.e. Obamacare.






Mitt Romney is the same guy that when ask what the greatest danger was to the United States, he identified Russia and their smaller economy than the State of Texas. He ignored the national debt, China, Iran and North Korea. or even Islamic terrorism.






I don't know anything about Romney's Democrat opponent in November, but I doubt that he'd be much worse for the U.S. Senate than the RINO, Democrat Lite Romney. He'll take over where War Hawk John McCain leaves off. Just another egotistical mindless maverick with few principles.



He will make a name for himself, publish media stories about his successes, raise money and more than likely run for President again. Probably. He's getting up there in years.




Major Lambda

Major Lambda
06-27-2018, 12:50 PM
Any Republican instead of any Democrat.


Can you say for sure Mitt Romney is a die hard Republican.

Because I cannot.


"Romney had supported many left-wing positions: ......."

https://www.conservapedia.com/Mitt_Romney





Major Lambda

Major Lambda
06-27-2018, 12:51 PM
we'll see he switchs sides as much as bloomberg



Or McCain.




Major Lambda

MMC
06-27-2018, 02:53 PM
Any Republican instead of any Democrat.

That's all Romney has going for him.

MMC
06-27-2018, 02:55 PM
He will make a name for himself, publish media stories about his successes, raise money and more than likely run for President again. Probably. He's getting up there in years.




Major Lambda

He definitely wants to be on a Major Committee.....I wouldn't put him on one. He will end up being like Susan Collins.

Peter1469
06-27-2018, 03:52 PM
I am not a fan of Romney, but he’s a better choice than some hard leftist. However, that’s up to the people of Utah to decide.

That is what I think. Hopefully he does not run for president again.

Captdon
06-27-2018, 05:46 PM
Can you say for sure Mitt Romney is a die hard Republican.

Because I cannot.


"Romney had supported many left-wing positions: ......."

https://www.conservapedia.com/Mitt_Romney





Major Lambda

No, I can't. I do know he has to keep the Mormons happy and they don't like too much liberalism. Still, what Democrat would be any better?

Captdon
06-27-2018, 05:48 PM
That is something I never understood , when McCain ran against Obama on every forum conservatives said they werent voting.

When you have 2 choices you have no other choices other than to vote for lesser of the two evils or not vote and hope the lesser of the evils wins.

They left him high and dry. For what purpose I don't know. It gave us Obama. There was a good choice.

Tahuyaman
06-27-2018, 08:10 PM
That is what I think. Hopefully he does not run for president again.
If he did and won the nomination it would demoralize conservatives and we would get another hard leftist like Obama. Hopefully that leftist would be just as indecisive and incompetent.

Peter1469
06-27-2018, 11:03 PM
I refuse to vote for a liberal republican. I will vote third party or stay home. If moderates thereby allow a Dem into office that is on them.

Tahuyaman
06-27-2018, 11:23 PM
I refuse to vote for a liberal republican. I will vote third party or stay home. If moderates thereby allow a Dem into office that is on them.

The Republican Party shifting to the left is what drove me away. When the tax and spend then grow government mentality took hold in the GOP, I left them.

During my lifetime, the creation of the Department of Homeland Security is the single worst overreach of government I have ever seen. It happened during a Republican administration. It was proposed by a Republcan. One who had the nerve to call himself a conservative.


Identifying as a moderate is just a softer and dishonest way to say, I'm a liberal.

Common
06-28-2018, 03:45 AM
McCain is an evil man. He hates conservatives as much as he loves TV cameras.
Yeah your right Obama just loved conservatives so much more

Common
06-28-2018, 03:49 AM
Can you say for sure Mitt Romney is a die hard Republican.

Because I cannot.


"Romney had supported many left-wing positions: ......."

https://www.conservapedia.com/Mitt_Romney





Major Lambda


No hes not in the sense of a far right teaparty freedom caucus republican.

I am not a far right guy admittedly, I part company with the Abolish Social security and medicare and unions crowd and give tax cuts the rich and corporations instead with subsidies to add to their profit crowd.

If the republican party was more citizen friendly they would rule politically forever.

Robo
06-28-2018, 09:39 AM
That is something I never understood , when McCain ran against Obama on every forum conservatives said they werent voting.

When you have 2 choices you have no other choices other than to vote for lesser of the two evils or not vote and hope the lesser of the evils wins.

You can vote if you want but need to understand that the duopoly owns the system. they own the media, the national debate and every dime of special interest money in a system controlled by money. No others need apply! A third choice is to protest the rigged system, rigged for the duopoly. One solution is to eliminate any and all political party affiliations along side of candidates names on any ballot. Limit any contribution to any candidate to an individual donation only, (no collective donations allowed) and a maximum individual donation limit of $1,000.00 per campaign, per election.

MisterVeritis
06-28-2018, 09:42 AM
You can vote if you want but need to understand that the duopoly owns the system. they own the media, the national debate and every dime of special interest money in a system controlled by money. No others need apply! A third choice is to protest the rigged system, rigged for the duopoly. One solution is to eliminate any and all political party affiliations along side of candidates names on any ballot. Limit any contribution to any candidate to an individual donation only, (no collective donations allowed) and a maximum individual donation limit of $1,000.00 per campaign, per election.
Isn't there a one dumb idea per message limit? You offered two.

Captdon
06-28-2018, 09:53 AM
You can vote if you want but need to understand that the duopoly owns the system. they own the media, the national debate and every dime of special interest money in a system controlled by money. No others need apply! A third choice is to protest the rigged system, rigged for the duopoly. One solution is to eliminate any and all political party affiliations along side of candidates names on any ballot. Limit any contribution to any candidate to an individual donation only, (no collective donations allowed) and a maximum individual donation limit of $1,000.00 per campaign, per election.

That's nice but none of that is going to happen.

My feeling is that a bad Republican is better than any Democrat. I'm personally not going to stay home or vote for someone who can't win. That's just a way for the Dems to get back in power.

If a Ross Perot type popular candidate runs, I'd vote for him/her. It would shake the establishment to it's core to have someone like that come in second.

MisterVeritis
06-28-2018, 09:58 AM
If a Ross Perot type popular candidate runs, I'd vote for him/her. It would shake the establishment to it's core to have someone like that come in second.
It appears you got your wish with Trump.

Robo
06-30-2018, 08:09 PM
Isn't there a one dumb idea per message limit? You offered two.
Dumb because?

Robo
06-30-2018, 08:23 PM
That's nice but none of that is going to happen.

My feeling is that a bad Republican is better than any Democrat. I'm personally not going to stay home or vote for someone who can't win.

OK, but you need to be prepared for more BIG government. More trillions added to the national debt. You need to be OK with supporting our global police force mentality, BIG money controlling our crooked two party system. Our being the UN's police force and the defender of socialist Europe. lobbyist controlling the Congress. Politicians getting elected as people of moderate financial means and retiring independently wealthy. A system of government with two justice standards, one for the people and a different one for the BIG government cesspool dwellers. A government owned by the duopoly, their media hacks who control the national debate and the BIG money special interest who finance the theft and corruption.

Captdon
07-01-2018, 09:32 AM
Dumb because?

I found three.

If a group of us want to support a candidate who is the government to tell us we can't.

Freedom. I should be able to do what I want with my money in support of my right to chose my leaders.

Having the party affiliation beside the name means nothing.

Captdon
07-01-2018, 09:34 AM
OK, but you need to be prepared for more BIG government. More trillions added to the national debt. You need to be OK with supporting our global police force mentality, BIG money controlling our crooked two party system. Our being the UN's police force and the defender of socialist Europe. lobbyist controlling the Congress. Politicians getting elected as people of moderate financial means and retiring independently wealthy. A system of government with two justice standards, one for the people and a different one for the BIG government cesspool dwellers. A government owned by the duopoly, their media hacks who control the national debate and the BIG money special interest who finance the theft and corruption.

And you think electing a Democrat will change that? Who do you think started us down this road?

Robo
07-01-2018, 09:56 AM
I found three.

If a group of us want to support a candidate who is the government to tell us we can't.

You CAN! You're only restriction is you have to do it "individually." The point is to eliminate the massive special interest money from our elections. You can collectively advertise your favorite candidate, spend all you want on that, you just can't BRIBE him/her with massive funding from your special interest in opposition to individuals who have no union or corporate blue-hair club special interest.

Freedom. I should be able to do what I want with my money in support of my right to chose my leaders.

I just explained how you CAN!


Having the party affiliation beside the name means nothing.

You don't believe there are thousands if not millions voting simply on the party affiliation listed next to a candidate's name right? I think those folks are the "majority." Removing the party affiliations forces voters to at least do a little research, get some information and pay attention before they vote.

Robo
07-01-2018, 09:58 AM
And you think electing a Democrat will change that? Who do you think started us down this road?

You can only be held responsible for who's in a political office if you voted for him/her.