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jet57
07-16-2018, 08:03 PM
So I've noticed how quiet it is around here concerning Trump's Press conference today; former CIA chief John Brennan had a interesting comment:
https://www.vox.com/world/2018/7/16/17576804/trump-putin-meeting-john-brennan-tweet-treasonous
Donald Trump’s press conference performance in Helsinki rises to & exceeds the threshold of “high crimes & misdemeanors.” It was nothing short of treasonous. Not only were Trump’s comments imbecilic, he is wholly in the pocket of Putin. Republican Patriots: Where are you???
Our country underwent a cyber attack to our national elections of 2016: it has been confirmed by every intelligence agency in the country and our sitting president, on global television this morning said that he Believed Putin's denial over the findings of his country.
So let's look closely at what our US Constitution has to say on the subject of Treason: Article III, sec 3:
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War, or adhering to their Enemies, giving them aid and comfort.
At the very least Donald Trump "adhered" to Vladimir Putin. He sucked up to Putin. He's covering his own[/i]financial[/i] ass in front of and around the leader of a country who electronically attacked our country.
And where ARE the Republicans with condemnation and announced actions?
After this, any Republicans who support Trump better never wave the US flag again.
MisterVeritis
07-16-2018, 08:08 PM
Kooks are going to "kook".
Brennan. You. Your team.
ripmeister
07-16-2018, 08:08 PM
I have to laugh at our conservative friends and Trumpians. The alt right is known for its use of Cuck. Who is The Salesmans Cucks now?
The administration he was part of tried to "hit the reset button" with Russia. So Brennan is a hypocrite.
ripmeister
07-16-2018, 08:15 PM
No mention by Trump of Crimea, Syria, the poisonings in England in addition to the election meddling pass that he gave Vlad. Just like Mr. V The Salesman has sided with Putin and Russia. He's awesome!
DGUtley
07-16-2018, 08:15 PM
I’m not justifying what Trump said. I want to read about it and review it carefully before I say anything further beyond Rip’s thread. I do want to point out that this interference took place when Brennan, Clapper, Lynch, Comey (and before him, Mueller) and Obama were in charge. They admitted that knew about it — and did nothing to stop it. NADA.
Who should charged with treason here? Who is leading the charge against Trump here? Why aren’t we talking about that? Aren’t you even 1% curious?
ripmeister
07-16-2018, 08:18 PM
I’m not justifying what Trump said. I want to read about it and review it carefully before I say anything further beyond Rip’s thread. I do want to point out that this interference took place when Brennan, Clapper, Lynch, Comey (and before him, Mueller) and Obama were in charge. They admitted that knew about it — and did nothing to stop it. NADA.
Who should charged with treason here? Who is leading the charge against Trump here? Why aren’t we talking about that? Aren’t you even 1% curious?
Your charges against the Obama team are true. Obama claimed he didn't want to be accused of trying to alter the election. IMO that was a big mistake.
Mister D
07-16-2018, 08:20 PM
I have to laugh at our conservative friends and Trumpians. The alt right is known for its use of Cuck. Who is The Salesmans Cucks now?
The word you're searching for is "kook". You remain one.
ripmeister
07-16-2018, 08:24 PM
The word you're searching for is "kook". You remain one.
I'm fine. Your Dear Leader is the kook. The bar was pretty low on this trip and he couldn't even clear it.
DGUtley
07-16-2018, 08:28 PM
Your charges against the Obama team are true. Obama claimed he didn't want to be accused of trying to alter the election. IMO that was a big mistake.
i know from our old forum that you have great integrity so this admission is not surprising. Why is nobody talking about the fact that the people that did nothing (treasonous conduct, perhaps) are leading the charge. As you know, I trust no one. Why the silence on that issue? Why the sudden hellbent push? The press & Brennan wanted Trump to defend the same intell agencies that (some think — Trump) have been trying to implement a palace coup on him since elected WHEN THEY THEMSELVES DID NOTHING. Why?
Personally, I am disappointed but I want to read more.
Common
07-16-2018, 08:29 PM
Brennan is a true scumbag
Dr. Who
07-16-2018, 08:34 PM
Trump came across like a Putin acolyte when he was asked if he believes his own intelligence agencies regarding Russian meddling in the 2016 election:
“They think it’s Russia,” “I have President Putin — he just said it’s not Russia. I don’t see any reason why it would be.”
Really? Like Putin didn't lie for a living for many years or that Russia and the U.S. haven't been meddling in each other's business since the 1950's.
Perhaps in an effort to save Trump's face, Putin said:
“As to who is to be believed, as to who is not to be believed, you can trust no one. Where did you get this idea that President Trump trusts me or that I trust him? He defends the interests of the United States of America and I defend the interests of the Russian Federation. We do have interests in common and we are looking for points of contact.”
Trump just added fuel to all the rumors regarding his relationship with Russia. Had he left off saying: “I don’t see any reason why it would be” and just smiled at the press, it would have sent a different message - more like the one made by Putin.
HawkTheSlayer
07-16-2018, 08:37 PM
Brennan is a true scumbag
just saw a bunch of desperate ramblings all over twitterville. The resistance is now planning 'TO OCCUPY' a park by the White House, and to stay there until Trump 'resigns.'http://thepoliticsforums.com/images/smilies/newsmilies/smiley_ROFLMAO.gif
ripmeister
07-16-2018, 08:39 PM
I never thought I'd see the day that Republicans would be Russia apologists and enablers.
Tahuyaman
07-16-2018, 08:39 PM
John Brennan Says Trump is Treasonous
Thats crazy.
nathanbforrest45
07-16-2018, 08:44 PM
So I've noticed how quiet it is around here concerning Trump's Press conference today; former CIA chief John Brennan had a interesting comment:
https://www.vox.com/world/2018/7/16/17576804/trump-putin-meeting-john-brennan-tweet-treasonous
Our country underwent a cyber attack to our national elections of 2016: it has been confirmed by every intelligence agency in the country and our sitting president, on global television this morning said that he Believed Putin's denial over the findings of his country.
So let's look closely at what our US Constitution has to say on the subject of Treason: Article III, sec 3:
At the very least Donald Trump "adhered" to Vladimir Putin. He sucked up to Putin. He's covering his own[/i]financial[/i] ass in front of and around the leader of a country who electronically attacked our country.
And where ARE the Republicans with condemnation and announced actions?
After this, any Republicans who support Trump better never wave the US flag again.[/FONT][/COLOR]
We will take your comments under active consideration.
No mention by Trump of Crimea
Did Russia enter Crimea during the Trump presidency? Seems your boy (not using the phrase as a derogatory slur against a hyphenated American) dropped the ball on that one.
Russian meddling in the election? As far as I know the D.N.C. never made their servers available to the F.B.I. for forensic analysis. Where exactly are those servers?
How much did Trump's wife get paid to make a speech in Russia, what about Hillary's husband?
stjames1_53
07-16-2018, 08:54 PM
So I've noticed how quiet it is around here concerning Trump's Press conference today; former CIA chief John Brennan had a interesting comment:
https://www.vox.com/world/2018/7/16/17576804/trump-putin-meeting-john-brennan-tweet-treasonous
Our country underwent a cyber attack to our national elections of 2016: it has been confirmed by every intelligence agency in the country and our sitting president, on global television this morning said that he Believed Putin's denial over the findings of his country.
So let's look closely at what our US Constitution has to say on the subject of Treason: Article III, sec 3:
At the very least Donald Trump "adhered" to Vladimir Putin. He sucked up to Putin. He's covering his own[/i]financial[/i] ass in front of and around the leader of a country who electronically attacked our country.
And where ARE the Republicans with condemnation and announced actions?
After this, any Republicans who support Trump better never wave the US flag again.[/FONT][/COLOR]
treason.............are we at war with Russia?
stjames1_53
07-16-2018, 08:56 PM
Trump came across like a Putin acolyte when he was asked if he believes his own intelligence agencies regarding Russian meddling in the 2016 election:
“They think it’s Russia,” “I have President Putin — he just said it’s not Russia. I don’t see any reason why it would be.”
Really? Like Putin didn't lie for a living for many years or that Russia and the U.S. haven't been meddling in each other's business since the 1950's.
Perhaps in an effort to save Trump's face, Putin said:
“As to who is to be believed, as to who is not to be believed, you can trust no one. Where did you get this idea that President Trump trusts me or that I trust him? He defends the interests of the United States of America and I defend the interests of the Russian Federation. We do have interests in common and we are looking for points of contact.”
Trump just added fuel to all the rumors regarding his relationship with Russia. Had he left off saying: “I don’t see any reason why it would be” and just smiled at the press, it would have sent a different message - more like the one made by Putin.
you should move to Russia and conduct your own investigation.
Our country underwent a cyber attack to our national elections of 2016: it has been confirmed by every intelligence agency in the country
Actually only three. If you read page 13 of that report where they define high confidence they state that high confidence means they could be wrong.
So you are saying three intelligence agencies stating they could be wrong confirms a cyber attack? Interesting application of logic.
As to the three involved agencies let us look at who was in charge:
James Clapper who lied to Congress under oath.
John Brennan who apparently does not even know the definition of treason or high crimes and misdemeanors and who was an Obama/Clinton stooge.
James Comey oh there is a real prize. Remember how all you democrats hated him when he cost Hillary the election and now all of a sudden you think he is as honest as the day is long.
As to Mueller's charges he will never be able to prove them in court. He couldn't prove them last time when one of the Russians he indicted actually showed up. He whined to the judge that he needed a continuance to prepare. Apparently he is still preparing because the case has never came up for trial, even though the Russian is more than willing to answer the charges.
I haven't laughed this hard since I first heard the late George Carlin discussing the seven words you cannot say on television.
stjames1_53
07-16-2018, 09:04 PM
So I've noticed how quiet it is around here concerning Trump's Press conference today; former CIA chief John Brennan had a interesting comment:
https://www.vox.com/world/2018/7/16/17576804/trump-putin-meeting-john-brennan-tweet-treasonous
Our country underwent a cyber attack to our national elections of 2016: it has been confirmed by every intelligence agency in the country and our sitting president, on global television this morning said that he Believed Putin's denial over the findings of his country.
So let's look closely at what our US Constitution has to say on the subject of Treason: Article III, sec 3:
At the very least Donald Trump "adhered" to Vladimir Putin. He sucked up to Putin. He's covering his own[/i]financial[/i] ass in front of and around the leader of a country who electronically attacked our country.
And where ARE the Republicans with condemnation and announced actions?
After this, any Republicans who support Trump better never wave the US flag again.[/FONT][/COLOR]
Our country underwent a cyber attack to our national elections of 2016: it has been confirmed by every intelligence agency in the country and our sitting president, on global television this morning said that he Believed Putin's denial over the findings of his country.
How many was that again? 25, 30, 101?
Orion Rules
07-16-2018, 09:06 PM
No mention by Trump of Crimea, Syria, the poisonings in England in addition to the election meddling pass that he gave Vlad. Just like Mr. V The Salesman has sided with Putin and Russia. He's awesome!
What's the President supposed to say that won't be further torn apart? The "meddling pass" he gave Vladimir Putin, for them taking apart how the Obama Administration caused worldwide conflicts, so smart. The taking of the Crimea, while Mr. Obama wanted it. He helped, by the fostering of I.S.I.S., his belonging to the Muslim Brotherhood, to help destroy ancient archaeological sites. You don't remember the smashing of statues, the burning of enlightened studies, the fake revolutions that brought in worse tyrants, the threats to destroy the Giza pyramids, is life long or short? The raging against acres by maniacs, the numbers of death squads killing soldiers on the right side in the battlefields. Die-versity sucks. Some of you just love things as they were, as long as they were never your losses! What cares?! "*"****-****"*"
Our country underwent a cyber attack to our national elections of 2016: it has been confirmed by every intelligence agency in the country
Actually only three. If you read page 13 of that report where they define high confidence they state that high confidence means they could be wrong.
So you are saying three intelligence agencies stating they could be wrong confirms a cyber attack? Interesting application of logic.
As to the three involved agencies let us look at who was in charge:
James Clapper who lied to Congress under oath.
John Brennan who apparently does not even know the definition of treason or high crimes and misdemeanors and who was an Obama/Clinton stooge.
James Comey oh there is a real prize. Remember how all you democrats hated him when he cost Hillary the election and now all of a sudden you think he is as honest as the day is long.
As to Mueller's charges he will never be able to prove them in court. He couldn't prove them last time when one of the Russians he indicted actually showed up. He whined to the judge that he needed a continuance to prepare. Apparently he is still preparing because the case has never came up for trial, even though the Russian is more than willing to answer the charges.
I haven't laughed this hard since I first heard the late George Carlin discussing the seven words you cannot say on television.
gamewell45
07-16-2018, 09:27 PM
So I've noticed how quiet it is around here concerning Trump's Press conference today; former CIA chief John Brennan had a interesting comment:
https://www.vox.com/world/2018/7/16/17576804/trump-putin-meeting-john-brennan-tweet-treasonous
Our country underwent a cyber attack to our national elections of 2016: it has been confirmed by every intelligence agency in the country and our sitting president, on global television this morning said that he Believed Putin's denial over the findings of his country.
So let's look closely at what our US Constitution has to say on the subject of Treason: Article III, sec 3:
At the very least Donald Trump "adhered" to Vladimir Putin. He sucked up to Putin. He's covering his own[/i]financial[/i] ass in front of and around the leader of a country who electronically attacked our country.
And where ARE the Republicans with condemnation and announced actions?
After this, any Republicans who support Trump better never wave the US flag again.[/FONT][/COLOR]
Apparently Fox Business reporter Trish Regan did not have a single thing flattering to say about the President's meeting with Putin.
http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/5809924713001/?#sp=show-clips
Tahuyaman
07-16-2018, 09:30 PM
No mention by Trump of Crimea, Syria, the poisonings in England in addition to the election meddling pass that he gave Vlad. Just like Mr. V The Salesman has sided with Putin and Russia. He's awesome!
How do you know what was or was not discussed in their private meeting?
Tahuyaman
07-16-2018, 09:37 PM
In spite of the hysterical bloviating by the left, it might be wise to see how Russia acts in the future.
I don't see Trump re-opening Russian Consulates he closed. I don't see him easing sanctions. I don't see him re-admitting Russian diplomats he booted out of the country. I don't see him backing off on supporting the Ukraine with weaponry.
So, you might want to take a breath and see how things go from now on.
Dr. Who
07-16-2018, 09:38 PM
you should move to Russia and conduct your own investigation.
Why would I want to do that? I am really only commenting on Trump's foot in mouth problem. No head of state should be even intimating publicly that they believe another head of state over their own intelligence agencies. That goes double for the US. That's just telegraphing to the entire world that US intelligence is not to be believed. Has any other US president ever thrown any American intelligence agency under the bus before the international press in the entire history of America?
Trump hates the intelligence agencies because he fears that they might prove that the Russians somehow engineered his election. His ego can't handle that possibility, no matter how remote, so rather than accept that the Russians were meddling to no great import, he as much as states that US intelligence agencies are manufacturing evidence and that they are completely untrustworthy, but that the "unimpeachable" word of Putin should be accepted without question. Even Putin thought that was going too far - the reaction to Trump's statements are not unreasonable. A President would have to be a traitor or mentally unstable to undermine their own country's integrity in the eyes of the world.
stjames1_53
07-16-2018, 09:40 PM
Why would I want to do that? I am really only commenting on Trump's foot in mouth problem. No head of state should be even intimating publicly that they believe another head of state over their own intelligence agencies. That goes double for the US. That's just telegraphing to the entire world that US intelligence is not to be believed. Has any other US president ever thrown any American intelligence agency under the bus before the international press in the entire history of America?
Trump hates the intelligence agencies because he fears that they might prove that the Russians somehow engineered his election. His ego can't handle that possibility, no matter how remote, so rather than accept that the Russians were meddling to no great import, he as much as states that US intelligence agencies are manufacturing evidence and that they are completely untrustworthy, but that the "unimpeachable" word of Putin should be accepted without question. Even Putin thought that was going too far - the reaction to Trump's statements are not unreasonable. A President would have to be a traitor or mentally unstable to undermine their own country's integrity in the eyes of the world.
Trump hates the intelligence agencies because he fears that they might prove that the Russians somehow engineered his election
And you know this how?
stjames1_53
07-16-2018, 09:40 PM
Why would I want to do that? I am really only commenting on Trump's foot in mouth problem. No head of state should be even intimating publicly that they believe another head of state over their own intelligence agencies. That goes double for the US. That's just telegraphing to the entire world that US intelligence is not to be believed. Has any other US president ever thrown any American intelligence agency under the bus before the international press in the entire history of America?
Trump hates the intelligence agencies because he fears that they might prove that the Russians somehow engineered his election. His ego can't handle that possibility, no matter how remote, so rather than accept that the Russians were meddling to no great import, he as much as states that US intelligence agencies are manufacturing evidence and that they are completely untrustworthy, but that the "unimpeachable" word of Putin should be accepted without question. Even Putin thought that was going too far - the reaction to Trump's statements are not unreasonable. A President would have to be a traitor or mentally unstable to undermine their own country's integrity in the eyes of the world.
also see #26
Tahuyaman
07-16-2018, 09:42 PM
I'm with Rand Paul on this one. Everyone should be very skeptical of our intelligence agencies. They've missed a lot and gotten a lot wrong over the last decade or so.
stjames1_53
07-16-2018, 09:42 PM
So I've noticed how quiet it is around here concerning Trump's Press conference today; former CIA chief John Brennan had a interesting comment:
https://www.vox.com/world/2018/7/16/17576804/trump-putin-meeting-john-brennan-tweet-treasonous
Our country underwent a cyber attack to our national elections of 2016: it has been confirmed by every intelligence agency in the country and our sitting president, on global television this morning said that he Believed Putin's denial over the findings of his country.
So let's look closely at what our US Constitution has to say on the subject of Treason: Article III, sec 3:
At the very least Donald Trump "adhered" to Vladimir Putin. He sucked up to Putin. He's covering his own[/i]financial[/i] ass in front of and around the leader of a country who electronically attacked our country.
And where ARE the Republicans with condemnation and announced actions?
After this, any Republicans who support Trump better never wave the US flag again.[/FONT][/COLOR]
oh, buggar off..................Brennan is not to be trusted after lying to Congress..God how you guys like licking Obama soles
Dr. Who
07-16-2018, 09:44 PM
Actually only three. If you read page 13 of that report where they define high confidence they state that high confidence means they could be wrong.
So you are saying three intelligence agencies stating they could be wrong confirms a cyber attack? Interesting application of logic.
As to the three involved agencies let us look at who was in charge:
James Clapper who lied to Congress under oath.
John Brennan who apparently does not even know the definition of treason or high crimes and misdemeanors and who was an Obama/Clinton stooge.
James Comey oh there is a real prize. Remember how all you democrats hated him when he cost Hillary the election and now all of a sudden you think he is as honest as the day is long.
As to Mueller's charges he will never be able to prove them in court. He couldn't prove them last time when one of the Russians he indicted actually showed up. He whined to the judge that he needed a continuance to prepare. Apparently he is still preparing because the case has never came up for trial, even though the Russian is more than willing to answer the charges.
I haven't laughed this hard since I first heard the late George Carlin discussing the seven words you cannot say on television.
Well, unfortunately, Trump is actually afraid they might prove that he didn't really win and as such is trashing the reputation of US intelligence on the world stage. Airing your dirty laundry in public is always a bad idea.
Tahuyaman
07-16-2018, 09:46 PM
Trump hates the intelligence agencies because he fears that they might prove that the Russians somehow engineered his election.
Then president Obama said in 2016 just before the election that "no serious person" could believe that. Of course that was in response to Trump's claims that there was an effort to meddle in the election in Clinton's favor.
Tahuyaman
07-16-2018, 09:46 PM
Well, unfortunately, Trump is actually afraid they might prove that he didn't really win and as such is trashing the reputation of US intelligence on the world stage. Airing your dirty laundry in public is always a bad idea.
No.
jet57
07-16-2018, 10:08 PM
I’m not justifying what Trump said. I want to read about it and review it carefully before I say anything further beyond Rip’s thread. I do want to point out that this interference took place when Brennan, Clapper, Lynch, Comey (and before him, Mueller) and Obama were in charge. They admitted that knew about it — and did nothing to stop it. NADA.
Who should charged with treason here? Who is leading the charge against Trump here? Why aren’t we talking about that? Aren’t you even 1% curious?
While you're investigating, read this:
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/23/mitch-mcconnell-russia-obama-joe-biden-359531
jet57
07-16-2018, 10:10 PM
Brennan is a true scumbag
Yeah the former director of the CIA, who knows an idiot when he sees one - is a scumbag.
Sure, whatever you say. Don't ever say that you're a patriot.
Tahuyaman
07-16-2018, 10:19 PM
Yeah the former director of the CIA, who knows an idiot when he sees one - is a scumbag.
Sure, whatever you say. Don't ever say that you're a patriot.
Brennan has his own problems to deal with. This Russian stuff happened during his watch. He would probably be wise to keep a low profile.
Dr. Who
07-16-2018, 10:26 PM
And you know this how?
By his hundreds of tweets and statements to the press. He screams his insecurity issues repeatedly. He even had to double down on the electoral college vote numbers (entirely out of place by the way) in his statements to the international press (who didn't ask about the election). You'd have to be deaf, dumb and blind not to see his constant state of paranoia about the election. It's why he continues to "campaign" to this day, as if he stops, he won't hold on to the Presidency. It's why he's throwing US intelligence and the FBI under the bus.
I also think he's also afraid that all of these investigations into Russian meddling will uncover some actual evidence that he knew that he was receiving illicit Russian money from Deutsche Bank's real estate business starting 1998 when Trump was essentially blacklisted by the major Wall Street real estate lending firms. He borrowed close to a billion dollars from Deutsche Bank. That would be money laundering. He could probably pardon himself, but he would be impeached immediately and unanimously. (Deutsche Bank was eventually sued by the US government for money laundering and paid a $7.2 billion fine.)
Dr. Who
07-16-2018, 10:31 PM
I'm with Rand Paul on this one. Everyone should be very skeptical of our intelligence agencies. They've missed a lot and gotten a lot wrong over the last decade or so.
Being skeptical is one thing. Basically saying that they are unreliable in front of the whole world is another.
Dr. Who
07-16-2018, 10:32 PM
No.
Yes.
Tahuyaman
07-16-2018, 10:35 PM
Yes.
The "no" was indeed the correct answer.
Tahuyaman
07-16-2018, 10:37 PM
By his hundreds of tweets and statements to the press. He screams his insecurity issues repeatedly. He even had to double down on the electoral college vote numbers (entirely out of place by the way) in his statements to the international press (who didn't ask about the election). You'd have to be deaf, dumb and blind not to see his constant state of paranoia about the election. It's why he continues to "campaign" to this day, as if he stops, he won't hold on to the Presidency. It's why he's throwing US intelligence and the FBI under the bus.
I also think he's also afraid that all of these investigations into Russian meddling will uncover some actual evidence that he knew that he was receiving illicit Russian money from Deutsche Bank's real estate business starting 1998 when Trump was essentially blacklisted by the major Wall Street real estate lending firms. He borrowed close to a billion dollars from Deutsche Bank. That would be money laundering. He could probably pardon himself, but he would be impeached immediately and unanimously. (Deutsche Bank was eventually sued by the US government for money laundering and paid a $7.2 billion fine.)
if that was true it would have been exposed a long time ago
Dr. Who
07-16-2018, 10:38 PM
Then president Obama said in 2016 just before the election that "no serious person" could believe that. Of course that was in response to Trump's claims that there was an effort to meddle in the election in Clinton's favor.
What it does show is how easily Trump believes that someone or some entity could change the course of an election, whether for Clinton's benefit or his own.
Tahuyaman
07-16-2018, 10:42 PM
What it does show is how easily Trump believes that someone or some entity could change the course of an election, whether for Clinton's benefit or his own.
If Trump was in cahoots with the Russians, why would he be concerned that the election was being rigged for Clinton?
Safety
07-16-2018, 10:45 PM
So I've noticed how quiet it is around here concerning Trump's Press conference today; former CIA chief John Brennan had a interesting comment:
https://www.vox.com/world/2018/7/16/17576804/trump-putin-meeting-john-brennan-tweet-treasonous
Our country underwent a cyber attack to our national elections of 2016: it has been confirmed by every intelligence agency in the country and our sitting president, on global television this morning said that he Believed Putin's denial over the findings of his country.
So let's look closely at what our US Constitution has to say on the subject of Treason: Article III, sec 3:
At the very least Donald Trump "adhered" to Vladimir Putin. He sucked up to Putin. He's covering his own[/i]financial[/i] ass in front of and around the leader of a country who electronically attacked our country.
And where ARE the Republicans with condemnation and announced actions?
After this, any Republicans who support Trump better never wave the US flag again.[/FONT][/COLOR]
After witnessing the amount of vitriol the right here had for every nitpicking thing Obama did or said, it’s fucking hilarious how silent they are to have their messiah commit treason by suggesting Russia is more credible than our intelligence agencies. I mean, can there be a more appropriate term to use to describe those members other than deplorable partisan hacks?
Tahuyaman
07-16-2018, 10:55 PM
How did Trump commit treason?
Dr. Who
07-16-2018, 11:01 PM
if that was true it would have been exposed a long time ago
No, you have to have evidence that he knew that it was illicit money. That evidence may exist in Cohen's (his personal attorney) records that Cohen has indicated are covered by attorney-client privilege. Cohen has essentially stated that he will give up whatever he has to, in order to protect his own freedom and his family's security. Under federal law attorney-client privilege does not apply where the communication was made for the purpose of committing a crime or tort. If any of those privileged documents contain evidence of a crime, they can be legally offered in evidence.
Dr. Who
07-16-2018, 11:03 PM
The "no" was indeed the correct answer.
I disagree.
Dr. Who
07-16-2018, 11:08 PM
If Trump was in cahoots with the Russians, why would he be concerned that the election was being rigged for Clinton?
Did I say he was in cahoots with the Russians? I'm sure that he wasn't. However, I'm sure he wouldn't find it hard to believe that the Russians would prefer anyone other than Hillary in office. She's pretty rabidly anti-Russian.
MisterVeritis
07-16-2018, 11:14 PM
No mention by Trump of Crimea, Syria, the poisonings in England in addition to the election meddling pass that he gave Vlad. Just like Mr. V The Salesman has sided with Putin and Russia. He's awesome!
The same people leading the charge against President Trump led the coup attempt. And you continue to be a coup cheerleader.
It is more of the same. Nothing else. You disgust me.
AZ Jim
07-16-2018, 11:15 PM
How did Trump commit treason?
treason noun [ U ] (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/help/codes.html)
uk /ˈtriː.zən/ us /ˈtriː.zən/
(the crime (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/crime) of) showing (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/showing) no loyalty (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/loyalty) to your (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/your) country (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/country), especially (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/especially) by helping (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/helping) its (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/its) enemies (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/enemy) or trying (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/trying) to defeat (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/defeat) its (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/its) government (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/government):
In 1606 Guy Fawkes was executed (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/execute) for treason.
MisterVeritis
07-16-2018, 11:15 PM
The administration he was part of tried to "hit the reset button" with Russia. So Brennan is a hypocrite.
Brennan is a coup plotter.
MisterVeritis
07-16-2018, 11:17 PM
Trump came across like a Putin acolyte when he was asked if he believes his own intelligence agencies regarding Russian meddling in the 2016 election:
“They think it’s Russia,” “I have President Putin — he just said it’s not Russia. I don’t see any reason why it would be.”
Really? Like Putin didn't lie for a living for many years or that Russia and the U.S. haven't been meddling in each other's business since the 1950's.
Perhaps in an effort to save Trump's face, Putin said:
“As to who is to be believed, as to who is not to be believed, you can trust no one. Where did you get this idea that President Trump trusts me or that I trust him? He defends the interests of the United States of America and I defend the interests of the Russian Federation. We do have interests in common and we are looking for points of contact.”
Trump just added fuel to all the rumors regarding his relationship with Russia. Had he left off saying: “I don’t see any reason why it would be” and just smiled at the press, it would have sent a different message - more like the one made by Putin.
What would be fun is for President Trump to declassify everything the DNI, CIA, NSA, and FBI have to support their claim.
It looks like a lie to me.
roadmaster
07-16-2018, 11:18 PM
I think Trump did great. Would love to see Russia and the US become friends.
MisterVeritis
07-16-2018, 11:19 PM
I never thought I'd see the day that Republicans would be Russia apologists and enablers.
You are not a very bright guy. It feels better once you admit it. You are a coup cheerleader.
Boris The Animal
07-16-2018, 11:23 PM
Brennan is a true scumbagThat's why he's a hero to the Left.
MisterVeritis
07-16-2018, 11:24 PM
After witnessing the amount of vitriol the right here had for every nitpicking thing Obama did or said, it’s fucking hilarious how silent they are to have their messiah commit treason by suggesting Russia is more credible than our intelligence agencies. I mean, can there be a more appropriate term to use to describe those members other than deplorable partisan hacks?
You are in deep, aren't you?
Dr. Who
07-16-2018, 11:25 PM
After witnessing the amount of vitriol the right here had for every nitpicking thing Obama did or said, it’s fucking hilarious how silent they are to have their messiah commit treason by suggesting Russia is more credible than our intelligence agencies. I mean, can there be a more appropriate term to use to describe those members other than deplorable partisan hacks?
I do find it interesting that such statements, which at any other time in history would have produced calls for impeachment in huge headlines in the press, is being allowed to slide. Times have certainly changed. A president can now trash his own most politically sensitive agencies in the international press and his supporters don't see a problem. Even his non-supporters don't get particularly excited about it. I think it has become a kind of schadenfreude thing for some and a cognitive dissonance thing for others. I am suddenly reminded of the sinking of the Titanic.
MisterVeritis
07-16-2018, 11:31 PM
I do find it interesting that such statements, which at any other time in history would have produced calls for impeachment in huge headlines in the press, is being allowed to slide. Times have certainly changed. A president can now trash his own most politically sensitive agencies in the international press and his supporters don't see a problem. Even his non-supporters don't get particularly excited about it. I think it has become a kind of schadenfreude thing for some and a cognitive dissonance thing for others. I am suddenly reminded of the sinking of the Titanic.
You know you are full of crap, don't you?
Dr. Who
07-16-2018, 11:32 PM
I think Trump did great. Would love to see Russia and the US become friends.
You don't become great friends by throwing your own under the bus. In that case, the US becomes a lackey to the Russians while Trump is in power and then likely becomes its worst enemy when the government changes and has to reassert itself. I think most people would like to see the end of US-Russian antipathy, but with dignity.
MisterVeritis
07-16-2018, 11:35 PM
You don't become great friends by throwing your own under the bus. In that case, the US becomes a lackey to the Russians while Trump is in power and then likely becomes its worst enemy when the government changes and has to reassert itself. I think most people would like to see the end of US-Russian antipathy, but with dignity.
Why not just admit it? You are a coup cheerleader.
barb012
07-16-2018, 11:35 PM
Many people now do not trust the justice department on their investigations because political motivation has clouded their judgement. Many of us see that a good relationship with Russia means no nuclear attack from them in our future which is more important then election interference.
roadmaster
07-16-2018, 11:43 PM
You don't become great friends by throwing your own under the bus. In that case, the US becomes a lackey to the Russians while Trump is in power and then likely becomes its worst enemy when the government changes and has to reassert itself. I think most people would like to see the end of US-Russian antipathy, but with dignity.
He has a lot to be weary about. False information, bias, and I still don't believe Assad poisoned his people. I have said the same for years now they have planted people in positions that shouldn't be there. Too much suspicious activity, you never see a low person all of a sudden the next year is number 5 in charge and that is not the only one. This should have been red flagged, too many plants including other fields. Also many times not sending our own people but relying on other countries.
Tahuyaman
07-16-2018, 11:47 PM
treason noun [ U ] (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/help/codes.html)
uk /ˈtriː.zən/ us /ˈtriː.zən/
(the crime (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/crime) of) showing (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/showing) no loyalty (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/loyalty) to your (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/your) country (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/country), especially (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/especially) by helping (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/helping) its (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/its) enemies (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/enemy) or trying (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/trying) to defeat (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/defeat) its (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/its) government (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/government):
In 1606 Guy Fawkes was executed (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/execute) for treason.
So Again I ask, how did Trump commit treason?
Tahuyaman
07-16-2018, 11:50 PM
I think Trump did great. Would love to see Russia and the US become friends.
Trump made some comments he should not have made. I don't believe Russia can ever be considered a friend, but we don't need to be bitter enemies either.
Tahuyaman
07-16-2018, 11:52 PM
I disagree.That's fine.
roadmaster
07-16-2018, 11:52 PM
He didn't he is trying to have peace with Russia. If he had been rude to Putin the left would have said he is trying to start WWIII, get the insane person out the white house, he should never have the codes, so he does something different and now they say it's treason. What are they scared of, that Putin may have some intelligence they don't want him to see.
roadmaster
07-16-2018, 11:54 PM
Trump made some comments he should not have made. I don't believe Russia can ever be considered a friend, but we don't need to be bitter enemies either.
We are friends with China a communist country and you are worried about Russia.
pragmatic
07-16-2018, 11:57 PM
Am a lifelong conservative/moderate. Never been a fan of Trump. He comes across as a petty, juvenile, pompous, airbag.
His words/performance today in the press conference with Putin were puzzling, disappointing, embarrassing and frankly bizarre.
With that said. The rants by some on the Left claiming "treason" are hyperbolic and more than a little ridiculous.
Dr. Who
07-16-2018, 11:57 PM
You know you are full of crap, don't you?
The fact that you don't see Trump publicly kissing Putin's behind as problematic, indicates that you may have a problem with intellectual constipation, not me. IIRC you had huge (yuge) issues with Obama et al's deal with the Iranians, who may or may not even have one nuclear weapon, but have no problems with Trump obviously licking the boots of the only other nation that rivals America in nuclear power. Now I am not anti-Russian, but it certainly sends a rather poor message when the President throws his own government under the bus and praises "the competitor". Even a business would not stand for its CEO publicly just taking its competitor's word that they are not committing industrial espionage and suggesting that their own experts are idiots.
Just an FYI, I fully expected that Trump would be all kissy face with Putin. He basically said as much before going to Helsinki. He has a thing for strong autocratic leaders. That's his business style and what he relates to. The fact that he can't keep any staff in the Whitehouse is part of that. He would love to have the same deal as Putin, Kim Jon Un and Xi Jinping. Then he could just make all of these unpleasant investigations go away, including those leading the investigations. He could also silence the press.
MisterVeritis
07-16-2018, 11:58 PM
Am a lifelong conservative/moderate. Never been a fan of Trump. He comes across as a petty, juvenile, pompous, airbag.
His words/performance today in the press conference with Putin were puzzling, disappointing, embarrassing and frankly bizarre.
With that said. The rants by some on the Left claiming "treason" are hyperbolic and more than a little ridiculous.
What, specifically, did you object to?
MisterVeritis
07-17-2018, 12:00 AM
The fact that you don't see Trump publicly kissing Putin's behind as problematic, indicates that you may have a problem with intellectual constipation, not me. IIRC you had huge (yuge) issues with Obama et al's deal with the Iranians, who may or may not even have one nuclear weapon, but have no problems with Trump obviously licking the boots of the only other nation that rivals America in nuclear power. Now I am not anti-Russian, but it certainly sends a rather poor message when the President throws his own government under the bus and praises "the competitor". Even a business would not stand for its CEO publicly just taking its competitor's word that they are not committing industrial espionage and suggesting that their own experts are idiots.
Just an FYI, I fully expected that Trump would be all kissy face with Putin. He basically said as much before going to Helsinki. He has a thing for strong autocratic leaders. That's his business style and what he relates to. The fact that he can't keep any staff in the Whitehouse is part of that. He would love to have the same deal as Putin, Kim Jon Un and Xi Jinping. Then he could just make all of these unpleasant investigations go away, including those leading the investigations. He could also silence the press.
Your statements are all handwaves. What specifically, did you object to?
Dr. Who
07-17-2018, 12:11 AM
Am a lifelong conservative/moderate. Never been a fan of Trump. He comes across as a petty, juvenile, pompous, airbag.
His words/performance today in the press conference with Putin were puzzling, disappointing, embarrassing and frankly bizarre.
With that said. The rants by some on the Left claiming "treason" are hyperbolic and more than a little ridiculous.
Certainly, the rhetoric is hyperbolic, but Trump is setting himself up for political disaster. It will take very little now for his own party to see him as a liability that can no longer be tolerated.
gamewell45
07-17-2018, 12:14 AM
He didn't he is trying to have peace with Russia. If he had been rude to Putin the left would have said he is trying to start WWIII, get the insane person out the white house, he should never have the codes, so he does something different and now they say it's treason. What are they scared of, that Putin may have some intelligence they don't want him to see.
Read up on Russian history.
roadmaster
07-17-2018, 12:14 AM
The US has a lot in common with Russia. They have a large Christian population, fought their way out of communism and many died doing it. No they are not a republic like us but has more rights than most countries we are friends with. But like our forefathers said, trade with all, ally with none. If they had stuck with that we wouldn't have been in so many wars.
Dr. Who
07-17-2018, 12:17 AM
Your statements are all handwaves. What specifically, did you object to?
Specifically - suggesting that Putin had no motive to mess with US elections. That's just the most ridiculous thing that I've ever heard. Putin had every reason to try to keep Hillary out of office. She has never had any warm and fuzzy feelings for Russia. Trump on the other hand...
DGUtley
07-17-2018, 01:04 AM
While you're investigating, read this:https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/23/mitch-mcconnell-russia-obama-joe-biden-359531
Joe is campaigning but thanks. They did nothing. Zilch.
Hoosier8
07-17-2018, 05:46 AM
The left whined about not using enough diplomacy and now whine when diplomacy is used. Can’t please the whiners.
Cannons Front
07-17-2018, 06:37 AM
Ok lets just review some facts;
Did Russia hack the election? NO, even if it can be proven that Russians, (any of them with or without Putin's knowledge) are the ones that hacked the DNC, or Hillary's computers (as none of the mentioned servers have ever been checked by LEO or even independent sources even that is unproven) they did not Hack the election. NO VOTES WERE CHANGED, NO VOTE TOTALS WERE CHANGED, NO ELECTORAL VOTES WERE CHANGED. Sorry but until you can provided PROOF that votes were changed the election was not hacked.
Did Russia attempt to influence our election? More than likely YES. While no Proof has been shown, the Russian/USSR Gov't has tried to influence all of our elections going back to at least 1945. Social media and the press have made it much easier for them. This is not an act of war, and we do it all the time too.
Did the Obama administration know about Russian attempts? YES, it was publicly stated that the POTUS knew and he told Putin to cut it out, NOTHING punitive was done until after the election. Isn't that like knowing someone is going to blow up a bridge, watching them plant the bomb, watching the bridge blow, then arresting them?
The bottom line to all of this again is "Homeland Security officials did conclude that cyber attacks didn’t tamper with vote tallies in 2016."
Trump won, and HRC had a meltdown and took half the country with her.
countryboy
07-17-2018, 07:00 AM
I’m not justifying what Trump said. I want to read about it and review it carefully before I say anything further beyond Rip’s thread. I do want to point out that this interference took place when Brennan, Clapper, Lynch, Comey (and before him, Mueller) and Obama were in charge. They admitted that knew about it — and did nothing to stop it. NADA.
Who should charged with treason here? Who is leading the charge against Trump here? Why aren’t we talking about that? Aren’t you even 1% curious?
Not only did the Obama admin do nothing about Russian interference, they actively prevented anything from being done about it.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/obamas-cybersecurity-coordinator-confirms-susan-rice-ordered-stand-down-russian-meddling-2016-election
Michael Daniel confirmed Wednesday that former national security adviser Susan Rice ordered him and his staff to "stand down" in 2016 in regard to Russian attempts to meddle in the 2016 election.
And in case libs want to argue that WE is a right wing rag, here's something for you from Huffpo.
‘Stand Down’: How The Obama Team Blew The Response To Russian Meddling (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/stand-down-how-the-obama-team-blew-the-response-to-russian-meddling_us_5aa29a97e4b086698a9d1112)
It was a debate that would culminate that summer with a dramatic directive from Obama’s national security adviser to the NSC staffers developing aggressive proposals to strike back against the Russians: “Stand down.”
Hoosier8
07-17-2018, 07:17 AM
Brennan was one that signed off on a letter demanding Obama fire Mike Rogers after Rogers uncovered the abuse of using the NSA database to spy on Americans which in the report uncovered 85% of the requests were improper. Rogers discovered that many of these requests were being used to spy on the Trump campaign. Unauthorized contractors like Fusion GPS and Crowdstrike evidently had access and it is surmised that it was used for some of the dossier information and the reason the wrong Cohen trip to Russia was included.
You will notice that all of the accusers from the intelligence community are coordinating an attack on Trump, Brennan, Yates, Clapper, and Comey.
Metinks they protest too much.
exotix
07-17-2018, 08:14 AM
Kooks are going to "kook".
Brennan. You. Your team.Here's a new avatar for you and your ilk ... LOL
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9_vjxjhbQR4/maxresdefault.jpg
Tahuyaman
07-17-2018, 08:18 AM
We are friends with China a communist country and you are worried about Russia.
Russia is not China.
Our "friendship" with China is not as friendly as you seem to think it is.
Tahuyaman
07-17-2018, 08:19 AM
Here's a new avatar for you and your ilk ... LOL
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9_vjxjhbQR4/maxresdefault.jpg
Sounds like the DNC slogan
MisterVeritis
07-17-2018, 08:39 AM
Certainly, the rhetoric is hyperbolic, but Trump is setting himself up for political disaster. It will take very little now for his own party to see him as a liability that can no longer be tolerated.
This makes me smile. Have you ever had a day when you didn't believe President Trump was setting himself up for a political disaster?
What do you propose to do? Arrest President Trump? Impeach him?
MisterVeritis
07-17-2018, 08:41 AM
Here's a new avatar for you and your ilk ... LOL
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9_vjxjhbQR4/maxresdefault.jpg
Why would I want to use an avatar from a member of your team?
ripmeister
07-17-2018, 08:49 AM
How do you know what was or was not discussed in their private meeting?
We don't. Add another problem to the pile.
ripmeister
07-17-2018, 08:53 AM
The same people leading the charge against President Trump led the coup attempt. And you continue to be a coup cheerleader.
It is more of the same. Nothing else. You disgust me.
I take pride in disgusting a Vlad admirer such as yourself.
stjames1_53
07-17-2018, 08:55 AM
Sounds like the DNC slogan
democrat = socialist
Even Perez says so
stjames1_53
07-17-2018, 08:56 AM
We don't. Add another problem to the pile.
why is it no problem when Obama met Putin in private? What was discussed there?
MisterVeritis
07-17-2018, 09:03 AM
I take pride in disgusting a Vlad admirer such as yourself.
You do know you are a kook, don't you?
stjames1_53
07-17-2018, 09:05 AM
Here's my point which the Left overlooked........It is only treason when you are war with another nation/state.
When did we go to war with Russia?
Tahuyaman
07-17-2018, 09:19 AM
We don't. Add another problem to the pile.
That's not a problem. As they should, president's frequently have private meetings with foreign leaders. We don't need to know everything said between them.
Tahuyaman
07-17-2018, 09:26 AM
John Brennan Says Trump is Treasonous
This is how Democrats ruin an issue which they could use to their benefit. If they would stay rational and reasonable in their criticisms, more people would listen to them.
When they go off on these hyperbolic rants about treason and impeachment, normal people tune them out.
stjames1_53
07-17-2018, 09:42 AM
John Brennan Says Trump is Treasonous
This is how Democrats ruin an issue which they could use to their benefit. If they would stay rational and reasonable in their criticisms, more people would listen to them.
When they go off on these hyperbolic rants about treason and impeachment, normal people tune them out.
The Moon is round:
Obama says it they worship and adore him......
Trump says it, it's treason......
TDD at it's peak.
Tahuyaman
07-17-2018, 09:49 AM
Clearly, Trump let himself get baited into making some comments he should not have made. However, they don't rise to the level of treason or an impeachable offense. Making claims that it does is absolutely crazy.
Besides, I don't see Trump's actions as president taking a softer line on Russia. Just the opposite.
With me, actions are more important than words.
So I've noticed how quiet it is around here concerning Trump's Press conference today; former CIA chief John Brennan had a interesting comment:
https://www.vox.com/world/2018/7/16/17576804/trump-putin-meeting-john-brennan-tweet-treasonous
Our country underwent a cyber attack to our national elections of 2016: it has been confirmed by every intelligence agency in the country and our sitting president, on global television this morning said that he Believed Putin's denial over the findings of his country.
So let's look closely at what our US Constitution has to say on the subject of Treason: Article III, sec 3:
At the very least Donald Trump "adhered" to Vladimir Putin. He sucked up to Putin. He's covering his own[/i]financial[/i] ass in front of and around the leader of a country who electronically attacked our country.
And where ARE the Republicans with condemnation and announced actions?
After this, any Republicans who support Trump better never wave the US flag again.[/FONT][/COLOR]
:rollseyes:
Trump's Press Conference With Putin Isn't Going Over Well...With Republicans ……
President Trump's press conference with Russian President Vladimir Putin isn't going over well with Republicans on Capitol Hill.
Congressman Trey Gowdy
House Speaker Paul Ryan
Congresswoman Liz Cheney
House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Ed Royce
Congressman Adam Kinzinger
Senator Lindsey Graham
Senator Ben Sasse
There were many more. You get the idea......snip~
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2018/07/16/trumps-press-conference-with-putin-isnt-going-over-wellwith-republicans-n2500858
You weren't taking that Mope Brennan to seriously were you.
If so, then you should be asking Brennan what the CIA was doing operating on US Soil, and why he isn't in jail.
No mention by Trump of Crimea, Syria, the poisonings in England in addition to the election meddling pass that he gave Vlad. Just like Mr. V The Salesman has sided with Putin and Russia. He's awesome!
Nor did Trump mention that he got rid of the Russian Software that BO the peep and his Team were using that allowed the Russians to hack in all over the place. Nor did Trump mention Killing over 200 Russians in Syria. Nor did Trump mention that he closed down the Russian Consulate in Seattle. Or that he kick out 60 some Russians from the country. Or that he gave weapons to the Ukrainians either.
But hey the leftness would remember those facts, Right? But they are the Elites, huh?
Captdon
07-17-2018, 09:56 AM
So I've noticed how quiet it is around here concerning Trump's Press conference today; former CIA chief John Brennan had a interesting comment:
https://www.vox.com/world/2018/7/16/17576804/trump-putin-meeting-john-brennan-tweet-treasonous
Our country underwent a cyber attack to our national elections of 2016: it has been confirmed by every intelligence agency in the country and our sitting president, on global television this morning said that he Believed Putin's denial over the findings of his country.
So let's look closely at what our US Constitution has to say on the subject of Treason: Article III, sec 3:
At the very least Donald Trump "adhered" to Vladimir Putin. He sucked up to Putin. He's covering his own[/i]financial[/i] ass in front of and around the leader of a country who electronically attacked our country.
And where ARE the Republicans with condemnation and announced actions?
After this, any Republicans who support Trump better never wave the US flag again.[/FONT][/COLOR]
The site was down if you were trying to get on.
I don't think Trump can see the difference between Russian interference and the fake investigation into him. I doubt you do either. He should have made the difference and told Putin we will take action. He was wrong.
Please, don't bring Brennan up. He is a hack who has barely kept his head above water. If trump was wrong in Helsinki, then what was Brennan? He has been a liar about the CIA from Day One.
Republicans have rightly disagreed with the President. What action? You want to finish the attempted coup? From election day on you goofs have tried to get him out as if it was our fault you ran Clinton.
Where was your outrage when your bou gave Iran 150 billin dollars knowing they are:
1. Our enemy.
2. Support terrorism.
There is an active case of treason but not to you. You're really credible.
I'll wave my flag proudly and not ignore it like your side does.
Captdon
07-17-2018, 09:58 AM
Your charges against the Obama team are true. Obama claimed he didn't want to be accused of trying to alter the election. IMO that was a big mistake.
Yet, you didn't call for anything to be done about it. Hypocrite.
Captdon
07-17-2018, 10:00 AM
I never thought I'd see the day that Republicans would be Russia apologists and enablers.
Well, if it helps, I always saw the days when the Dems were, still are.
Captdon
07-17-2018, 10:02 AM
Apparently Fox Business reporter Trish Regan did not have a single thing flattering to say about the President's meeting with Putin.
http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/5809924713001/?#sp=show-clips
So? She has her thoughts and they mean she has her thoughts.
I’m not justifying what Trump said. I want to read about it and review it carefully before I say anything further beyond Rip’s thread. I do want to point out that this interference took place when Brennan, Clapper, Lynch, Comey (and before him, Mueller) and Obama were in charge. They admitted that knew about it — and did nothing to stop it. NADA.
Who should charged with treason here? Who is leading the charge against Trump here? Why aren’t we talking about that? Aren’t you even 1% curious?
Here is how all the Leftist and Lame Stream media began their feeding frenzy.
My second question is would you now, with the whole world watching, tell President Putin, would you denounce what happened in 2016 and would you warn him to never do it again?
TRUMP: So let me just say that we have two thoughts. You have groups that are wondering why the FBI never took the server -- haven't they taken the server. Why was the FBI told to leave the office of the Democratic National Committee?
I've been wondering that, I've been asking that for months and months and I've been tweeting it out and calling it out on social media. Where is the server? I want to know where is the server and what is the server saying?
With that being said, all I can do is ask the question. My people came to me, Dan Coats came to me and some others, they said they think it's Russia. I have President Putin; he just said it's not Russia.
I will say this: I don't see any reason why it would be. But I really do want to see the server......snip~
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ce-with-russias-putin/?utm_term=.1da7b6a4c84f (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/07/16/full-text-president-trumps-news-conference-with-russias-putin/?utm_term=.1da7b6a4c84f)
And.....now lets look at why Trump said what he did.
"My second question is would you now, with the whole world watching, tell President Putin, would you denounce what happened in 2016 and would you warn him to never do it again?"
Oh lookie there.....here is a Reuters Lame Stream Leftist trying to get Trump to callout Putin as a Liar. Denounce what happened. Then Warn Putin Next to him and Live Before the cameras. Never do that again Puti Poot.
After Putin already denied that Russia interfered.
Can you show us where in US History that a US President called an Adversary a Liar denounced him and then warned him.....while standing next to that adversary.
Now back here in the states is one thing. But standing Next to the Putin. I don't think so.
Oh and Trump knows Coates told him, Pompeo told him, Tom Cotton told him and Lindsey Graham told him that the Russians meddled.
Also Trump said he didn't think it was just the Russians either. That there were others.
Mister D
07-17-2018, 10:05 AM
I never thought I'd see the day that Republicans would be Russia apologists and enablers.
You're a little late. Several of us here have long been marveling at how people like you (you're about as independent as the crone you voted for) have suddenly become ultra nationalist Cold Warriors. How times change!
MisterVeritis
07-17-2018, 10:06 AM
Specifically - suggesting that Putin had no motive to mess with US elections.
I did not hear President Trump say that.
That's just the most ridiculous thing that I've ever heard. Putin had every reason to try to keep Hillary out of office. She has never had any warm and fuzzy feelings for Russia. Trump on the other hand...
Even if true it is irrelevant.
Captdon
07-17-2018, 10:07 AM
Why would I want to do that? I am really only commenting on Trump's foot in mouth problem. No head of state should be even intimating publicly that they believe another head of state over their own intelligence agencies. That goes double for the US. That's just telegraphing to the entire world that US intelligence is not to be believed. Has any other US president ever thrown any American intelligence agency under the bus before the international press in the entire history of America?
Trump hates the intelligence agencies because he fears that they might prove that the Russians somehow engineered his election. His ego can't handle that possibility, no matter how remote, so rather than accept that the Russians were meddling to no great import, he as much as states that US intelligence agencies are manufacturing evidence and that they are completely untrustworthy, but that the "unimpeachable" word of Putin should be accepted without question. Even Putin thought that was going too far - the reaction to Trump's statements are not unreasonable. A President would have to be a traitor or mentally unstable to undermine their own country's integrity in the eyes of the world.
John Kennedy threw the CIA under the bus for lying to him about the Bay of Pigs operation.
jet57
07-17-2018, 10:08 AM
:rollseyes:
Trump's Press Conference With Putin Isn't Going Over Well...With Republicans ……
President Trump's press conference with Russian President Vladimir Putin isn't going over well with Republicans on Capitol Hill.
Congressman Trey Gowdy
House Speaker Paul Ryan
Congresswoman Liz Cheney
House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Ed Royce
Congressman Adam Kinzinger
Senator Lindsey Graham
Senator Ben Sasse
There were many more. You get the idea......snip~
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2018/07/16/trumps-press-conference-with-putin-isnt-going-over-wellwith-republicans-n2500858
You weren't taking that Mope Brennan to seriously were you.
If so, then you should be asking Brennan what the CIA was doing operating on US Soil, and why he isn't in jail.
Your support for a traitorous president and support for a US enemy is noted.
stjames1_53
07-17-2018, 10:08 AM
treason noun [ U ] (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/help/codes.html)
uk /ˈtriː.zən/ us /ˈtriː.zən/
(the crime (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/crime) of) showing (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/showing) no loyalty (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/loyalty) to your (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/your) country (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/country), especially (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/especially) by helping (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/helping) its (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/its) enemies (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/enemy) or trying (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/trying) to defeat (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/defeat) its (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/its) government (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/government):
In 1606 Guy Fawkes was executed (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/execute) for treason.
so, when was war declared between our two countries? One can only commit treason during war, as Fawkes did
exotix
07-17-2018, 10:09 AM
Why would I want to use an avatar from a member of your team?Oh, you want an avatar that better represents you and your ilk .... here you go ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Putin
Putin was a KGB (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KGB) foreign intelligence officer for 16 years, rising to the rank of Lieutenant Colonel (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podpolkovnik) before resigning in 1991 to enter politics in Saint Petersburg.
Vladimir Putin ~ KGB in 1975
http://sosyalistgundem.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/screenshot_312-296x300.jpg
https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/oaoa.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/9/71/971ee5f2-4a13-11e5-98f4-57749dcd77dd/55da953092156.image.jpg?resize=465%2C625
Captdon
07-17-2018, 10:09 AM
Well, unfortunately, Trump is actually afraid they might prove that he didn't really win and as such is trashing the reputation of US intelligence on the world stage. Airing your dirty laundry in public is always a bad idea.
Goofy. The intelligence agencies have not once said that a single vote was changed. No one. Your remark is below you.
MisterVeritis
07-17-2018, 10:09 AM
How do you know what was or was not discussed in their private meeting?
We don't. Add another problem to the pile.
Perhaps you should stop what you are doing and run for office. Why is it you and my barber are the two people who have a solution for every problem?
Your charges against the Obama team are true. Obama claimed he didn't want to be accused of trying to alter the election. IMO that was a big mistake.
So BO the Peep decided he would not do what is in the best interest of the Country. When he swore he would protect it.
The claims are True.....the Russians Hacked into State Dept via Hillary and her aides. Then the State Dept, then using State Dept Computers hacked into the WH. Then the Pentagon. Then the DNC and their Donors. Then Hillary's campaign.
stjames1_53
07-17-2018, 10:10 AM
Your support for a traitorous president and support for a US enemy is noted.
How is Russia our enemy? Was there a declared war? If there is a war, you need to enlist and go to the front
jet57
07-17-2018, 10:11 AM
The site was down if you were trying to get on.
I don't think Trump can see the difference between Russian interference and the fake investigation into him. I doubt you do either. He should have made the difference and told Putin we will take action. He was wrong.
Please, don't bring Brennan up. He is a hack who has barely kept his head above water. If trump was wrong in Helsinki, then what was Brennan? He has been a liar about the CIA from Day One.
Republicans have rightly disagreed with the President. What action? You want to finish the attempted coup? From election day on you goofs have tried to get him out as if it was our fault you ran Clinton.
Where was your outrage when your bou gave Iran 150 billin dollars knowing they are:
1. Our enemy.
2. Support terrorism.
There is an active case of treason but not to you. You're really credible.
I'll wave my flag proudly and not ignore it like your side does.
Deny and deflect; always the right-wing answer to everything.
"It's all Obama's fault". Can't you righties ever face reality and your own failed logic?
"Trump was wrong"; oh boy, that's tellin 'em.
Captdon
07-17-2018, 10:11 AM
Yeah the former director of the CIA, who knows an idiot when he sees one - is a scumbag.
Sure, whatever you say. Don't ever say that you're a patriot.
I'm a patriot. There, see how I did that? Brennan is a proven scumbag. He lied to you in public.
jet57
07-17-2018, 10:12 AM
I'm a patriot. There, see how I did that? Brennan is a proven scumbag. He lied to you in public.
You support a traitorous president; don't ever tell me you're a patriot again.
MisterVeritis
07-17-2018, 10:15 AM
Read up on Russian history.
This is utterly worthless advice. What specifically do you want us to learn? Which books do you recommend? Have you read any books yourself?
Captdon
07-17-2018, 10:16 AM
We are friends with China a communist country and you are worried about Russia.
Russia has more nukes. Think about that.
Captdon
07-17-2018, 10:18 AM
We are friends with China a communist country and you are worried about Russia.
Countries don't have friends. They have enemies. allies and others.
MisterVeritis
07-17-2018, 10:18 AM
Oh, you want an avatar that better represents you and your ilk .... here you go ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Putin
Putin was a KGB (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KGB) foreign intelligence officer for 16 years, rising to the rank of Lieutenant Colonel (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podpolkovnik) before resigning in 1991 to enter politics in Saint Petersburg.
Vladimir Putin ~ KGB in 1975
http://sosyalistgundem.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/screenshot_312-296x300.jpg
If Putin is a leftist he is on your team. Why would I want an avatar that represents your team?
I never thought I'd see the day that Republicans would be Russia apologists and enablers.
And we never thought we would see the day wherein the Demos and their Cult following along with their Lame Stream media try and start a conflict with Russia in front of the cameras.....Live with no Memorex.
Captdon
07-17-2018, 10:21 AM
Certainly, the rhetoric is hyperbolic, but Trump is setting himself up for political disaster. It will take very little now for his own party to see him as a liability that can no longer be tolerated.
The Republican Establishment didn't like him before so who cares?Not be tolerated? What are they going to do? Next time around Trump supporters will vote him in at every primary.
Bear in mind, Republicans don't fix their primaries to suit one woman.
MisterVeritis
07-17-2018, 10:22 AM
You support a traitorous president; don't ever tell me you're a patriot again.
Why would you care if someone else is a patriot and claims he is? That would put him on the team that opposes your team. I prefer to think of it differently. Your team consists mostly of abnormals. My team consists mainly of Normals.
Captdon
07-17-2018, 10:25 AM
Specifically - suggesting that Putin had no motive to mess with US elections. That's just the most ridiculous thing that I've ever heard. Putin had every reason to try to keep Hillary out of office. She has never had any warm and fuzzy feelings for Russia. Trump on the other hand...
She interfered with his election. That's why he didn't want her in office. Forget that, did you? Forget that stupid reset button ceremony, did you?
exotix
07-17-2018, 10:29 AM
If Putin is a leftist he is on your team. Why would I want an avatar that represents your team?LOL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKdqlMm5nf4
Captdon
07-17-2018, 10:29 AM
why is it no problem when Obama met Putin in private? What was discussed there?
We won't allow Georgia into NATO. We will send the Ukraine a bunch of blankets but no weapons. We will not accept Assad using chemical weapons until he does. We won't object to you going into Syria.
MisterVeritis
07-17-2018, 10:32 AM
LOL
It is humorous. Did you have a point you wanted to make?
Captdon
07-17-2018, 10:37 AM
Deny and deflect; always the right-wing answer to everything.
"It's all Obama's fault". Can't you righties ever face reality and your own failed logic?
"Trump was wrong"; oh boy, that's tellin 'em.
I said Trump was wrong. You don't read well do you? Now, try being a big kid and read what I said about Trump. No, I won't use monosyllable words.
I laid out what your boy did that you ignored. Typical loony thinking.
exotix
07-17-2018, 10:38 AM
It is humorous. Did you have a point you wanted to make?Sure ... you are now a bona-fide communist and/or your new allegiance is to Russia ... simply because Trump is .... so I'm waiting on the resident conservatives to address this .... should at least be entertaining ... LOL
MisterVeritis
07-17-2018, 10:41 AM
Did you have a point you wanted to make?
Sure ... you are now a bona-fide communist and/or your new allegiance is to Russia ... simply because Trump is .... so I'm waiting on the resident conservatives to address this .... should at least be entertaining ... LOL
Let's see if I understand this.
1) You believe Russia is a Communist nation.
2) You believe I owe allegiance to Russia.
3) You believe President Trump is a Communist.
4) You believe President Trump owes allegiance to Russia.
LOL. I love your goofy sense of humor.
gamewell45
07-17-2018, 10:43 AM
So? She has her thoughts and they mean she has her thoughts.
Thank you for reinforcing what I posted.
Common
07-17-2018, 10:52 AM
Certainly, the rhetoric is hyperbolic, but Trump is setting himself up for political disaster. It will take very little now for his own party to see him as a liability that can no longer be tolerated.
Like anything else Political Doc it will all depend on his poll numbers. I hope you dont think that the democrat party is doing itself alot of good with independents with its Open Borders, Abolish Ice and Socialist candidates.
I think democrats would do well to focus on what they are doing to destroy themselves instead of being fixated on destroying trump.
Even if trump is a one term president he gave us many judges and Scotus and who knows he may even get another after kavenaugh this term. He also brought us into the light on Illegal Immigration which the media hid from americans.
Even if trump is a one term president his presence will be felt for many many years with Scotus
The Xl
07-17-2018, 11:46 AM
I'm with Rand Paul on this one. Everyone should be very skeptical of our intelligence agencies. They've missed a lot and gotten a lot wrong over the last decade or so.
That's by design. They're highly politically motivated.
exotix
07-17-2018, 12:20 PM
Did you have a point you wanted to make?
Let's see if I understand this.
1) You believe Russia is a Communist nation.
2) You believe I owe allegiance to Russia.
3) You believe President Trump is a Communist.
4) You believe President Trump owes allegiance to Russia.
LOL. I love your goofy sense of humor.Sure ... Russia has the economy of smaller than the GDP of Texas and ranks 30th as America's Trading Partner ... so why are you and your ilk kissing Putin ass in Trumpf worship again ?
Common
07-17-2018, 12:26 PM
Sure ... Russia has the economy of smaller than the GDP of Texas and ranks 30th as America's Trading Partner ... so why are you and your ilk kissing Putin ass in Trumpf worship again ?
Your knowledge of recent history is remarkably nonexistence. The democrats have always luvved them some Russians
Youre just angry your RUSSIANS are COMING crap got flushed
Oh and russia has more nukes than we do, that makes the GDP quite unimportant and Lets not forget your Obama kissing muslim ass and testicles all over the world LOL
exotix
07-17-2018, 12:31 PM
Your knowledge of recent history is remarkably nonexistence. The democrats have always luvved them some Russians
Youre just angry your RUSSIANS are COMING crap got flushed
Oh and russia has more nukes than we do, that makes the GDP quite unimportant and Lets not forget your Obama kissing muslim ass and testicles all over the world LOLWow, I would've never figured you to be such a Trumpf-sheeple let alone to have completely lost your mind ... sad.
Tahuyaman
07-17-2018, 12:34 PM
That's by design. They're highly politically motivated.
But it's getting more blatant now. Can you ever find another time that they actively colluded with the campaign of a presidential nominee to tear down that nominee's opponent? I'm not saying it hasn't happened, but it hasn't ever happened to this degree.
And now it is treason to be skeptical of their conclusions?
Tahuyaman
07-17-2018, 12:36 PM
Your knowledge of recent history is remarkably nonexistence. The democrats have always luvved them some Russians
Youre just angry your RUSSIANS are COMING crap got flushed
Oh and russia has more nukes than we do, that makes the GDP quite unimportant and Lets not forget your Obama kissing muslim ass and testicles all over the world LOL
They loved the Russians when Gorby was the leader of the Soviet Union. That's mostly because they hated Reagan almost as much as they hate Trump.
So basically, according to the left and RINOs, Trump is supposed to kiss up to the same agencies that have been persecuting him.
Trump is supposed to get up there on camera and say how great the F.B.I. is? Perhaps those on the left can tell us how great these members and former members of the F.B.I are:
Andrew McCabe
Bruce Ohr
Lisa Page
Peter Strozk
James Comey
I have not listed all the names but this should give you a good start. I recall, before President Trump fired him, that the left thought James Comey cost Hillary the election and should be drawn and quartered in the public square. Funny how opinions change.
exotix
07-17-2018, 12:42 PM
So basically, according to the left and RINOs, Trump is supposed to kiss up to the same agencies that have been persecuting him.
Trump is supposed to get up there on camera and say how great the F.B.I. is? Perhaps those on the left can tell us how great these members and former members of the F.B.I are:
Andrew McCabe
Bruce Ohr
Lisa Page
Peter Strozk
James Comey
I have not listed all the names but this should give you a good start. I recall, before President Trump fired him, that the left thought James Comey cost Hillary the election and should be drawn and quartered in the public square. Funny how opinions change.LOL
http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/politics/trump-russia-connections/
The many paths from Trump to Russia
https://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2017/images/05/08/trump-russia-interactive.jpg
Tahuyaman
07-17-2018, 12:44 PM
If you think the Democrats and establishment Republicans are hysterical now, just wait until you see their actions when this doesn't fulfill their desire to drive Trump from office.
You actually linked to the Clinton News Network. How quaint.
exotix
07-17-2018, 12:50 PM
You actually linked to the Clinton News Network. How quaint.Really ? ... which network is this ? ... LOL
http://res.cloudinary.com/luvckye9s/image/upload/v1531849791/mueller_indictments_udtpda.png
El Guapo
07-17-2018, 12:51 PM
John Brennan Says Trump is Treasonous (http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/99284-John-Brennan-Says-Trump-is-Treasonous)
You know the country is in trouble when the former CIA head doesn't even know what the word 'treason' means.
Tahuyaman
07-17-2018, 12:52 PM
It's amazing how the blatant partisan can't let go of the collusion meme. It's funny to watch the reaction of the media stooges when they ask someone if there's any evidence of collusion and they are told "no".
They quickly tell us how this means that the investigation needs to continue because it is still in its early stages.
Tahuyaman
07-17-2018, 12:54 PM
Really ? ... which network is this ? ... LOL
http://res.cloudinary.com/luvckye9s/image/upload/v1531849791/mueller_indictments_udtpda.png
And none of it relevant to the Trump / Russia collusion meme.
El Guapo
07-17-2018, 12:57 PM
If you think the Democrats and establishment Republicans are hysterical now, just wait until you see their actions when this doesn't fulfill their desire to drive Trump from office.
Trump really is the fabled 'right man at the right time'. I had serious doubts about him, but he has proven a remarkable man indeed.
He can take the retarded slings and arrows all day long and then some- and fire them back in spades. That resilience and resolve make him uniquely qualified to get things done; he's immune to them.
...and I. Love. It.
El Guapo
07-17-2018, 12:58 PM
And none of it relevant to the Trump / Russia collusion meme.
That doesn't matter to fawkwits.
:riot: CO loooo shun!!1111 reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!11 :riot:
Tahuyaman
07-17-2018, 01:07 PM
Trump really is the fabled 'right man at the right time'. I had serious doubts about him, but he has proven a remarkable man indeed.
He can take the retarded slings and arrows all day long and then some- and fire them back in spades. That resilience and resolve make him uniquely qualified to get things done; he's immune to them.
...and I. Love. It.
He's actually doing exactly what I expected. He's not a product of the political class. He doesn't observe the same rules which are observed by people raised to be politicians. I knew that he would say many things which outrage those people. I knew that he would say things which would be considered a huge gaff.
I'm more concerned about the things he does. His actions have disappointed me a couple of times, but I'm very supportive of his elimination of ill conceived regulations, tax policy and his judicial selections.
stjames1_53
07-17-2018, 01:13 PM
Really ? ... which network is this ? ... LOL
http://res.cloudinary.com/luvckye9s/image/upload/v1531849791/mueller_indictments_udtpda.png
.......and yet none of this is linked to Trump.
I wonder how man of Obama's admin we can cull
Really ? ... which network is this ? ... LOL
http://res.cloudinary.com/luvckye9s/image/upload/v1531849791/mueller_indictments_udtpda.png
How many of the charges actually relate to the Trump campaign? How many relate to activities that had nothing to do with the Trump campaign? How many relate to activities that occurred prior to Trump announcing he was running for president?
What was the verdict regarding the Russian that did show up demanding his day in court? The answer Mueller requested a continuance so he could prepare. He is still preparing, the case never went to court. The exact same thing would happen if all the Russians that have been indicted showed up and demanded their day in court. Mueller would run and hide because he knows he cannot get convictions.
exotix
07-17-2018, 01:20 PM
How many of the charges actually relate to the Trump campaign? How many relate to activities that had nothing to do with the Trump campaign? How many relate to activities that occurred prior to Trump announcing he was running for president?
What was the verdict regarding the Russian that did show up demanding his day in court? The answer Mueller requested a continuance so he could prepare. He is still preparing, the case never went to court. The exact same thing would happen if all the Russians that have been indicted showed up and demanded their day in court. Mueller would run and hide because he knows he cannot get convictions.Easy, criminals plead guilty to serious federal crimes and crimes against America everyday despite their innocence ... LOL
Hoosier8
07-17-2018, 01:22 PM
Easy, criminals plead guilty to serious federal crimes and crimes against America everyday despite their innocence ... LOL
A bunch of worthless indictments against Russians and a bunch of perjury traps and a couple of trials. Still nothing about collusion, what this witch hunt was supposed to be about.
Yes, people do plead guilty to avoid financial ruin.
Easy, criminals plead guilty to serious federal crimes and crimes against America everyday despite their innocence ... LOL
Cute, now would you mind answering the question?
exotix
07-17-2018, 01:29 PM
A bunch of worthless indictments against Russians and a bunch of perjury traps and a couple of trials. Still nothing about collusion, what this witch hunt was supposed to be about.
Yes, people do plead guilty to avoid financial ruin.
Cute, now would you mind answering the question?
I think its time to dissolve all Law Enforcement ... LOL
http://res.cloudinary.com/luvckye9s/image/upload/v1531852105/100_2240_ocirgm.jpg
stjames1_53
07-17-2018, 01:30 PM
Easy, criminals plead guilty to serious federal crimes and crimes against America everyday despite their innocence ... LOL
easy now lib..........just how does any of this relate to Trump?
I think its time to dissolve all Law Enforcement ... LOL
Oh the Antifa crowd would love that, then they could dress up in their little black costumes and destroy property at will.
stjames1_53
07-17-2018, 01:34 PM
I think its time to dissolve all Law Enforcement ... LOL
http://res.cloudinary.com/luvckye9s/image/upload/v1531852105/100_2240_ocirgm.jpg
so you can start killing the rest of us? That's why we are so well armed. To protect ourselves against people just like you.........you will, of course, be on the front lines, right?
Your support for a traitorous president and support for a US enemy is noted.
LMAO.....the only enemy the US needs to worry about is the one that lives in this country for the time being. That would be the Demos and their cult following. The ones that are so concerned about being a global citizen, that want open borders and that would fuck up cheating in an election and still lose that election. Aka the Sore losers.
stjames1_53
07-17-2018, 01:35 PM
Oh the Antifa crowd would love that, then they could dress up in their little black costumes and destroy property at will.
now quit making fun of her favorite gang...............she worships the bloody ground they make
I think its time to dissolve all Law Enforcement ... LOL
Ever read the definition of "high confidence" on page 13 of that intelligence report prepared by Clapper, Brennan and Comey (three agencies not seventeen).
It defines "high confidence" as meaning they could be wrong. I am not sh*tting you, that is how they define "high confidence". Don't believe me, read it for yourself.
stjames1_53
07-17-2018, 01:35 PM
LMAO.....the only enemy the US needs to worry about is the one that lives in this country for the time being. That would be the Demos and their cult following. The ones that are so concerned about being a global citizen, that want open borders and that would $#@! up cheating in an election and still lose that election. Aka the Sore losers.
You've misspelled Soros
Why would I want to do that? I am really only commenting on Trump's foot in mouth problem. No head of state should be even intimating publicly that they believe another head of state over their own intelligence agencies. That goes double for the US. That's just telegraphing to the entire world that US intelligence is not to be believed. Has any other US president ever thrown any American intelligence agency under the bus before the international press in the entire history of America?
Trump hates the intelligence agencies because he fears that they might prove that the Russians somehow engineered his election. His ego can't handle that possibility, no matter how remote, so rather than accept that the Russians were meddling to no great import, he as much as states that US intelligence agencies are manufacturing evidence and that they are completely untrustworthy, but that the "unimpeachable" word of Putin should be accepted without question. Even Putin thought that was going too far - the reaction to Trump's statements are not unreasonable. A President would have to be a traitor or mentally unstable to undermine their own country's integrity in the eyes of the world.
Did you forget BO the Peep and the Intelligence about WMD in Iraq? In front of the Cameras and in his sit downs?
Trump certainly doesn't trust them. But then he isn't about letting them give the Demos an excuse as to why they lost the election. Which is what they are trying to do. We lost while cheating all because of the Russians. :laugh:
exotix
07-17-2018, 01:46 PM
*Breaking*
... but not by Russia .... most likely the 400 lb person somewhere else ... LOL
http://res.cloudinary.com/luvckye9s/image/upload/v1531853145/100_2245_xffivs.jpg
Well, unfortunately, Trump is actually afraid they might prove that he didn't really win and as such is trashing the reputation of US intelligence on the world stage. Airing your dirty laundry in public is always a bad idea.
No, Trump is actually just about not letting the Demos use a lame excuse for running a bad and lazy candidate.
stjames1_53
07-17-2018, 01:48 PM
*Breaking*
... but not by Russia .... most likely the 400 lb person somewhere else ... LOL
http://res.cloudinary.com/luvckye9s/image/upload/v1531853145/100_2245_xffivs.jpg
another homemade job.....you're not getting any better at it. You should probably fire your editor
treason noun [ U ] (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/help/codes.html)
uk /ˈtriː.zən/ us /ˈtriː.zən/
(the crime (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/crime) of) showing (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/showing) no loyalty (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/loyalty) to your (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/your) country (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/country), especially (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/especially) by helping (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/helping) its (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/its) enemies (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/enemy) or trying (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/trying) to defeat (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/defeat) its (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/its) government (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/government):
In 1606 Guy Fawkes was executed (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/execute) for treason.
Or trying to defeat its government.....thanks for validating what the Demos and the Cult of lefts resistance really is. Nothing more than some traitors.....still here doing more of that trying to defeat the government.
That's why he's a hero to the Left.
Well, and because he is a wannabe Muslim.
another homemade job.....you're not getting any better at it. You should probably fire your editor
Perhaps s/he should invest in a copy of Photoshop for Dummies. I would make the background transparent and then get a screen shot of a CNN or MSNBC broadcast and layer it on top at the bottom of the screen shot so it actually had some semblance of reality to it. But then that's just me.
He didn't he is trying to have peace with Russia. If he had been rude to Putin the left would have said he is trying to start WWIII, get the insane person out the white house, he should never have the codes, so he does something different and now they say it's treason. What are they scared of, that Putin may have some intelligence they don't want him to see.
Yeah, Hillarys 33000 emails with classified material in some of them.
Am a lifelong conservative/moderate. Never been a fan of Trump. He comes across as a petty, juvenile, pompous, airbag.
His words/performance today in the press conference with Putin were puzzling, disappointing, embarrassing and frankly bizarre.
With that said. The rants by some on the Left claiming "treason" are hyperbolic and more than a little ridiculous.
Lefties always gonna go left. Communism is their Landing Zone. Their Paradise.
Common Sense
07-17-2018, 02:01 PM
Trump has made himself look very foolish over the last two days. Even more so than usual. That's quite the feat.
Specifically - suggesting that Putin had no motive to mess with US elections. That's just the most ridiculous thing that I've ever heard. Putin had every reason to try to keep Hillary out of office. She has never had any warm and fuzzy feelings for Russia. Trump on the other hand...
So she signed off on US Uranium because of that cold hard cash, huh?
stjames1_53
07-17-2018, 02:02 PM
Or trying to defeat its government.....thanks for validating what the Demos and the Cult of lefts resistance really is. Nothing more than some traitors.....still here doing more of that trying to defeat the government.
When someone declares the Constitution is outdated and needs to be replaced, when there is a coup attempt by losers, when there is an overt attempt to destroy our borders, that my friend, is treason
exotix
07-17-2018, 02:03 PM
Perhaps s/he should invest in a copy of Photoshop for Dummies. I would make the background transparent and then get a screen shot of a CNN or MSNBC broadcast and layer it on top at the bottom of the screen shot so it actually had some semblance of reality to it. But then that's just me.LOL
Trumpf obfuscating what he actually said ... LOL
http://res.cloudinary.com/luvckye9s/image/upload/v1531854105/100_2249_hjnybl.jpg
nathanbforrest45
07-17-2018, 02:06 PM
Trump has made himself look very foolish over the last two days. Even more so than usual. That's quite the feat.
We will take your comments under active consideration.
But frankly, not much since your opinion is worth next to absolute nothing.
Certainly, the rhetoric is hyperbolic, but Trump is setting himself up for political disaster. It will take very little now for his own party to see him as a liability that can no longer be tolerated.
Really.....what US Russian Policy has Trump changed?
Cannons Front
07-17-2018, 02:08 PM
Sure ... you are now a bona-fide communist and/or your new allegiance is to Russia ... simply because Trump is .... so I'm waiting on the resident conservatives to address this .... should at least be entertaining ... LOL
You do know that Russia is not a Communist country any longer right???
The government of Russia (https://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/europe/ru.htm) is a federal semi-presidential republic, according to the 1993 Constitution. Under a semi-presidential structure the President, and the Prime Minister share governing responsibilities as the head of state and head of government, respectively. The President does, however, hold more power. Multiple political parties are represented throughout the government and its administration. Three branches share the responsibilities of running the country: the executive branch, the legislative branch, and the judicial branch.
Here's a new avatar for you and your ilk ... LOL
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9_vjxjhbQR4/maxresdefault.jpg
Here is a new one for you.
http://freedownloads.uniqueteachingresources.com/JPEG-tuesday-monday-took-so-long.jpg
exotix
07-17-2018, 02:15 PM
You do know that Russia is not a Communist country any longer right???
The government of Russia (https://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/europe/ru.htm) is a federal semi-presidential republic, according to the 1993 Constitution. Under a semi-presidential structure the President, and the Prime Minister share governing responsibilities as the head of state and head of government, respectively. The President does, however, hold more power. Multiple political parties are represented throughout the government and its administration. Three branches share the responsibilities of running the country: the executive branch, the legislative branch, and the judicial branch.*Breaking*
Reading from prepared typed-remarks ... just like he had to do after Charlottesville
"I meant to say wouldn't not would " ... LOL
http://res.cloudinary.com/luvckye9s/image/upload/v1531854873/100_2251_qmevzk.jpg
stjames1_53
07-17-2018, 02:16 PM
Your support for a traitorous president and support for a US enemy is noted.
so, we are at war with Russia?
LOL
Trumpf obfuscating what he actually said ... LOL
http://res.cloudinary.com/luvckye9s/image/upload/v1531854105/100_2249_hjnybl.jpg
http://res.cloudinary.com/luvckye9s/image/upload/v1531854105/100_2249_hjnybl.jpg
Where exactly does it state "MSNBC" in that link? Is there an MSNBC website link you can provide?
It's not that I don't trust you, it's just that if it is a breaking story you should be able to provide a link.
stjames1_53
07-17-2018, 02:17 PM
http://res.cloudinary.com/luvckye9s/image/upload/v1531854105/100_2249_hjnybl.jpg
Where exactly does it state "MSNBC" in that link? Is there an MSNBC website link you can provide?
It's not that I don't trust you, it's just that if it is a breaking story you should be able to provide a link.
ain't gonna happen.................
Deny and deflect; always the right-wing answer to everything.
"It's all Obama's fault". Can't you righties ever face reality and your own failed logic?
"Trump was wrong"; oh boy, that's tellin 'em.
It is BO the Peeps fault.....he didn't stop the Russians because he didn't want to look partisan in the election theDemos cheated on and still lost.
Cannons Front
07-17-2018, 02:37 PM
I think its time to dissolve all Law Enforcement ... LOL
http://res.cloudinary.com/luvckye9s/image/upload/v1531852105/100_2240_ocirgm.jpg
Oh My God........ there was an order to INFLUENCE an election??? So it wasn't to interfere but influence...... wow who would ever do that it must be an act of WAR....
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-us-intervention-foreign-elections-20161213-story.html The U.S. is no stranger to interfering in the elections of other countries
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/12/obama-admin-sent-taxpayer-money-oust-netanyahu/Obama admin. sent taxpayer money to campaign to oust Netanyahu
https://spectator.org/obamas-meddling-in-foreign-elections-six-examples/ Obama's Meddling in Foreign Elections: Six ExamplesThe American ... (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjbtt7L76bcAhWqT98KHbIfC_sQFghMMAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Fspectator.org%2Fobamas-meddling-in-foreign-elections-six-examples%2F&usg=AOvVaw3qsFZ0si60kUhhz2ulYZrY)
https://aclj.org/israel/aclj-unearths-evidence-obama-state-department-misled-congress-on-the-use-of-taxpayer-funding-to-influence-the-current-israeli-election
ACLJ Unearths Evidence Obama State Department Misled Congress on the Use of Taxpayer Funding to “Influence the Current Israeli Election”
OOPS I guess maybe it is not an act of war...... we seem to do it even to our friends.
They loved the Russians when Gorby was the leader of the Soviet Union. That's mostly because they hated Reagan almost as much as they hate Trump.
That's when Teddy Kennedy you know their Conscience of the Senate, the guy that left a woman to drown.....contacted Russia to try and stop Reagan from becoming President.
Hoosier8
07-17-2018, 02:44 PM
I think its time to dissolve all Law Enforcement ... LOL
http://res.cloudinary.com/luvckye9s/image/upload/v1531852105/100_2240_ocirgm.jpg
The usual logical fallacy.
Easy, criminals plead guilty to serious federal crimes and crimes against America everyday despite their innocence ... LOL
Or they do what you kind does.....plead the 5th destroy evidence and fail to comply with subpoenas. Then get Amnesty for nothing in return.
Echoes of Ma Barker and Crime INC.
exotix
07-17-2018, 02:46 PM
Oh My God........ there was an order to INFLUENCE an election??? So it wasn't to interfere but influence...... wow who would ever do that it must be an act of WAR....
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-us-intervention-foreign-elections-20161213-story.html The U.S. is no stranger to interfering in the elections of other countries
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/12/obama-admin-sent-taxpayer-money-oust-netanyahu/Obama admin. sent taxpayer money to campaign to oust Netanyahu
https://spectator.org/obamas-meddling-in-foreign-elections-six-examples/ Obama's Meddling in Foreign Elections: Six ExamplesThe American ... (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjbtt7L76bcAhWqT98KHbIfC_sQFghMMAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Fspectator.org%2Fobamas-meddling-in-foreign-elections-six-examples%2F&usg=AOvVaw3qsFZ0si60kUhhz2ulYZrY)
https://aclj.org/israel/aclj-unearths-evidence-obama-state-department-misled-congress-on-the-use-of-taxpayer-funding-to-influence-the-current-israeli-election
ACLJ Unearths Evidence Obama State Department Misled Congress on the Use of Taxpayer Funding to “Influence the Current Israeli Election”
OOPS I guess maybe it is not an act of war...... we seem to do it even to our friends.
Or they do what you kind does.....plead the 5th destroy evidence and fail to comply with subpoenas. Then get Amnesty for nothing in return.
Echoes of Ma Barker and Crime INC.
LOL
http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/politics/trump-russia-connections/
https://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2017/images/05/08/trump-russia-interactive.jpg
http://res.cloudinary.com/luvckye9s/image/upload/v1531849791/mueller_indictments_udtpda.png
*Breaking*
... but not by Russia .... most likely the 400 lb person somewhere else ... LOL
http://res.cloudinary.com/luvckye9s/image/upload/v1531853145/100_2245_xffivs.jpg
Uhm, he said it in Jan of 2017 twice then later in Nov of 2017.
That purposeful amnesia started to set in on ya, huh?
Hoosier8
07-17-2018, 02:49 PM
LOL
http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/politics/trump-russia-connections/
https://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2017/images/05/08/trump-russia-interactive.jpg
http://res.cloudinary.com/luvckye9s/image/upload/v1531849791/mueller_indictments_udtpda.png
Yet...still nothing.
http://res.cloudinary.com/luvckye9s/image/upload/v1531854105/100_2249_hjnybl.jpg
Where exactly does it state "MSNBC" in that link? Is there an MSNBC website link you can provide?
It's not that I don't trust you, it's just that if it is a breaking story you should be able to provide a link.
Yeah Exo its not that I don't trust you....its I really don't trust you. :grin:
LOL
http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/politics/trump-russia-connections/
https://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2017/images/05/08/trump-russia-interactive.jpg
http://res.cloudinary.com/luvckye9s/image/upload/v1531849791/mueller_indictments_udtpda.png
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9iEy0ev5MCw/V6e8RnF7mDI/AAAAAAAAOaE/grHKAv5d1vknDLjcwcCJSCLlo7avT6PSQCLcB/s1600/Neoconed-bw.jpg
http://www.trbimg.com/img-5acfb472/turbine/ct-trump-hannity-deep-state-crime-families-mueller-comey-clintons-20180412
https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.gHP41Ds5AMwJHQ8JATGo0QHaFG&pid=Api
exotix
07-17-2018, 03:23 PM
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9iEy0ev5MCw/V6e8RnF7mDI/AAAAAAAAOaE/grHKAv5d1vknDLjcwcCJSCLlo7avT6PSQCLcB/s1600/Neoconed-bw.jpg
http://www.trbimg.com/img-5acfb472/turbine/ct-trump-hannity-deep-state-crime-families-mueller-comey-clintons-20180412
https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.gHP41Ds5AMwJHQ8JATGo0QHaFG&pid=ApiLOL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b71f2eYdTc
http://res.cloudinary.com/luvckye9s/image/upload/v1484598785/1_q8b9lb.png
President Trump never encouraged Russia to hack Hillary's emails. It was a joke, just like the Hillary campaign.
ripmeister
07-17-2018, 03:46 PM
President Trump never encouraged Russia to hack Hillary's emails. It was a joke, just like the Hillary campaign.
Apparently Vlad and his minnions didn't interpret it as a joke.
Captdon
07-17-2018, 03:50 PM
You support a traitorous president; don't ever tell me you're a patriot again.
I'm a patriot. I don't know what you are. I know your flag is white with a streak of yellow down the middle.
El Guapo
07-17-2018, 03:51 PM
It is BO the Peeps fault.....he didn't stop the Russians because he didn't want to look partisan in the election theDemos cheated on and still lost....and were convinced they were going to win.
lol
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Captdon
07-17-2018, 03:51 PM
Easy, criminals plead guilty to serious federal crimes and crimes against America everyday despite their innocence ... LOL
Lying to the FBI is a serious crime? You are funny.
Captdon
07-17-2018, 03:55 PM
That's by design. They're highly politically motivated.
So, are they truthful or not?
Captdon
07-17-2018, 03:56 PM
Cute, now would you mind answering the question?
This the best you get from him.
Mister D
07-17-2018, 03:57 PM
I must admit this entire episode is incredible. The US has maintained a policy of containment on Russia for 70 plus years and we're incensed over some Facebook ads. The world is laughing at us.
MisterVeritis
07-17-2018, 03:58 PM
Let's see if I understand this.
1) You believe Russia is a Communist nation.
2) You believe I owe allegiance to Russia.
3) You believe President Trump is a Communist.
4) You believe President Trump owes allegiance to Russia.
LOL. I love your goofy sense of humor.
Sure ... Russia has the economy of smaller than the GDP of Texas and ranks 30th as America's Trading Partner ... so why are you and your ilk kissing Putin ass in Trumpf worship again ?
Only people with your specific mental disorder see what you see. I am certain a medical professional could help you.
MisterVeritis
07-17-2018, 04:00 PM
You know the country is in trouble when the former CIA head doesn't even know what the word 'treason' means.
The country is not in trouble. If we have justice the treasonous coup plotter Brennan will die by hanging.
Mister D
07-17-2018, 04:00 PM
That's another thing. The dimmer among them admit that Russia is not capable of projecting power yet we're to believe in this new Bogeyman? Why? Oh, that's right. The crone got her ass handed to her and you can't deal with it.
Apparently Vlad and his minnions didn't interpret it as a joke.
They were quicker on the uptake than most liberals.
As concerns that indictment that will never see the inside of a courtroom alleging the alleged hacking activity started the same day, when you write a work of fiction you can include anything you want.
Lying to the FBI is a serious crime? You are funny.
But the F.B.I. lying to their employers is not. Why is that?
exotix
07-17-2018, 04:09 PM
That's another thing. The dimmer among them admit that Russia is not capable of projecting power yet we're to believe in this new Bogeyman? Why? Oh, that's right. The crone got her ass handed to her and you can't deal with it.
Let's see if I understand this.
1) You believe Russia is a Communist nation.
2) You believe I owe allegiance to Russia.
3) You believe President Trump is a Communist.
4) You believe President Trump owes allegiance to Russia.
LOL. I love your goofy sense of humor.
Only people with your specific mental disorder see what you see. I am certain a medical professional could help you.
Let's face it ... you needed a Rogue pseudo-Romanov / communist nation with the economy less than the GDP of Italy to beat HillBillary .... *snicker*
MisterVeritis
07-17-2018, 04:09 PM
As concerns that indictment that will never see the inside of a courtroom alleging the alleged hacking activity started the same day, when you write a work of fiction you can include anything you want.
Why do people say this? I heard, through a translator, Putin say that Mueller should prepare and submit the extradition request for the indicted, named intelligence officers. I also heard Putin invite Mueller to come to Russia to continue to investigate the Russia/Trump collusion and to interview the officers.
MisterVeritis
07-17-2018, 04:12 PM
Let's face it ... you needed a Rogue communist nation with the economy less than the GDP of Italy to beat HillBillary .... *snicker*
No. Let's face it ... you need the excuse of a Rogue communist nation with the economy less than the GDP of Italy for why such a poor, unlikable democratic party candidate (HillBillary) was beaten by a novice, outside non-politician .... *snicker*
Of course, Russia is not a communist nation but please continue.
exotix
07-17-2018, 04:15 PM
No. Let's face it ... you need the excuse of a Rogue communist nation with the economy less than the GDP of Italy for why such a poor, unlikable democratic party candidate (HillBillary) was beaten by a novice, outside non-politician .... *snicker*
Of course, Russia is not a communist nation but please continue.Notice how Trumpf ass-kisses with Putin on a fake-Summit stage to denounce U.S. Intelligence and Hillary-bash to salvage his presidency as legitimate ...
Man O Man jus'damn ... LOL
MisterVeritis
07-17-2018, 04:21 PM
Notice how Trumpf ass-kisses with Putin on a fake-Summit stage to denounce U.S. Intelligence and Hillary bash to salvage his presidency as legitimate ...
Man O Man jus'damn ... LOL
No salvage was required. President Trump's election was legitimate. The next one will be too.
I have no objection to President Trump being wary of our Intelligence Community. Their leadership, along with Barack Hussein O and Crooked Hillary committed the first coup attempt in American history. I hope we will see most of the coup plotters hanged to death.
Notice how Trumpf ass-kisses with Putin on a fake-Summit stage to denounce U.S. Intelligence and Hillary-bash to salvage his presidency as legitimate ...
Man O Man jus'damn ... LOL
Remember how Obama bowed to every other leader he met during his apologize for America tour. He belongs in the a** kisser hall of fame.
Dr. Who
07-17-2018, 04:35 PM
What would be fun is for President Trump to declassify everything the DNI, CIA, NSA, and FBI have to support their claim.
It looks like a lie to me.
This makes me smile. Have you ever had a day when you didn't believe President Trump was setting himself up for a political disaster?
What do you propose to do? Arrest President Trump? Impeach him?
I don't propose to do anything. But hey, Trump is sure backpedalling today, saying that he misspoke.
exotix
07-17-2018, 04:38 PM
No salvage was required. President Trump's election was legitimate. The next one will be too.
I have no objection to President Trump being wary of our Intelligence Community.
Their leadership, along with Barack Hussein O and Crooked Hillary committed the first coup attempt in American history. I hope we will see most of the coup plotters hanged to death.Really ? ... LOL
http://res.cloudinary.com/luvckye9s/image/upload/v1531863475/100_2252_zpj59j.jpg
MisterVeritis
07-17-2018, 04:39 PM
I don't propose to do anything. But hey, Trump is sure backpedalling today, saying that he misspoke.
I was out and about. Good. Did President Trump clarify things to your satisfaction?
MisterVeritis
07-17-2018, 04:41 PM
I have no objection to President Trump being wary of our Intelligence Community.
Their leadership, along with Barack Hussein O and Crooked Hillary committed the first coup attempt in American history. I hope we will see most of the coup plotters hanged to death.
Really ? ... LOL
http://res.cloudinary.com/luvckye9s/image/upload/v1531863475/100_2252_zpj59j.jpg
...headed by his people. Do you believe Comey, McCabe, Strzok and the like were Trump's people? He still has a ways to go to get rid of the Obama hold-overs.
Do you do all of your communications in cut and paste pictures?
Hoosier8
07-17-2018, 04:45 PM
The guilty dogs are barking pretty loudly. The cabal all came out to trash the President.
Hoosier8
07-17-2018, 04:46 PM
Notice how Trumpf ass-kisses with Putin on a fake-Summit stage to denounce U.S. Intelligence and Hillary-bash to salvage his presidency as legitimate ...
Man O Man jus'damn ... LOL
Not aware how elections work? Figures.
Dr. Who
07-17-2018, 05:28 PM
I was out and about. Good. Did President Trump clarify things to your satisfaction?
I suggest that you review all the videos and news and answer that question for yourself. There were reporters on AF1 who also confirm that he told them he believes Putin. Even while he was backpedalling he was still being equivocal about who might have been meddling.
MisterVeritis
07-17-2018, 05:48 PM
I suggest that you review all the videos and news and answer that question for yourself. There were reporters on AF1 who also confirm that he told them he believes Putin. Even while he was backpedalling he was still being equivocal about who might have been meddling.
I am not the one who had a problem with the Trump-Putin Press conference. Putin says the Russian government did not "meddle"? Or did he say the Russian government did not hack? Do you understand the difference?
Lots of organizations meddled. The Enemedia, for example, meddled every day. They did far more harm than the Russians could do with a small buy of Facebook adverts.
Mister D
07-17-2018, 05:49 PM
Listen to them now! "Rogue nations"! LOL
Dr. Who
07-17-2018, 06:28 PM
I am not the one who had a problem with the Trump-Putin Press conference. Putin says the Russian government did not "meddle"? Or did he say the Russian government did not hack? Do you understand the difference?
Lots of organizations meddled. The Enemedia, for example, meddled every day. They did far more harm than the Russians could do with a small buy of Facebook adverts.
I have no doubt that they did both. It's what they do. It's also what the CIA does. Putin was trained to lie with a straight face and it ridiculous that Trump would believe him. At the same time, it's highly doubtful that said meddling and hacking had any real influence on the election. US intelligence is probably more worried about what sensitive information they made off with.
MisterVeritis
07-17-2018, 06:30 PM
I have no doubt that they did both. It's what they do. It's also what the CIA does. Putin was trained to lie with a straight face and it ridiculous that Trump would believe him. At the same time, it's highly doubtful that said meddling and hacking had any real influence on the election. US intelligence is probably more worried about what sensitive information they made off with.
Perhaps Putin shared evidence with President Trump in their multi-hour private meeting. I believe Seth Rich stole the documents from the DNC servers. Not Russia.
The DNC servers should have no sensitive US information on them.
I was never encouraged to vote for Trump when I was on facebook. If there were ads out there I sure didn't see them.
MisterVeritis
07-17-2018, 06:32 PM
I was never encouraged to vote for Trump when I was on facebook. If there were ads out there I sure didn't see them.
Wait! Did you miss the ad?
Mr.Soxes
07-17-2018, 06:35 PM
Wait! Did you miss the ad?
The one at the top of this page is encouraging me to take my pants off!:blob9:
Dr. Who
07-17-2018, 06:36 PM
Perhaps Putin shared evidence with President Trump in their multi-hour private meeting. I believe Seth Rich stole the documents from the DNC servers. Not Russia.
The DNC servers should have no sensitive US information on them.
Should have no sensitive information...
MisterVeritis
07-17-2018, 06:37 PM
The one at the top of this page is encouraging me to take my pants off!:blob9:
I get Moes Southwest Grill. We looked up the menu online days ago. I love the days following a wife shopping event. I get adverts from top of the line lingerie, party dresses, and evening gowns. Sometimes I completely forget why I am here.
Wait! Did you miss the ad?
Apparently and none of my facebook friends called it to my attention. Perhaps they are not really my friends.
exotix
07-17-2018, 06:38 PM
I was never encouraged to vote for Trump when I was on facebook. If there were ads out there I sure didn't see them.That's even worse ... in fact I know people like you ... very scary.
MisterVeritis
07-17-2018, 06:39 PM
Should have no sensitive information...
Right. So unless the DNC is breaking US espionage laws there should be no sensitive US government information on a DNC server.
The one at the top of this page is encouraging me to take my pants off!:blob9:
What you do in the privacy of your own home is none of my concern. Just don't post photos.
Tahuyaman
07-17-2018, 06:39 PM
That's when Teddy Kennedy you know their Conscience of the Senate, the guy that left a woman to drown.....contacted Russia to try and stop Reagan from becoming President.
No, he was "the lion of the Senate". Plus he was a strong swimmer.
Dr. Who
07-17-2018, 06:39 PM
I was never encouraged to vote for Trump when I was on facebook. If there were ads out there I sure didn't see them.
I doubt the FSB took out any ads. More likely they showed up on forums of all kinds and dissed Hillary pretending to be Republicans. Oh wait...
Mr.Soxes
07-17-2018, 06:39 PM
I get Moes Southwest Grill. We looked up the menu online days ago. I love the days following a wife shopping event. I get adverts from top of the line lingerie, party dresses, and evening gowns. Sometimes I completely forget why I am here.
I accidentally click sometimes.
MisterVeritis
07-17-2018, 06:41 PM
I doubt the FSB took out any ads. More likely they showed up on forums of all kinds and dissed Hillary pretending to be Republicans. Oh wait...
Do you believe Russsian agents are illegal aliens, only doing work Americans won't do?
:grin:
MisterVeritis
07-17-2018, 06:42 PM
I accidentally click sometimes.
Once I get a good set going I click dozens of times. Alas, eventually they stop.
Hoosier8
07-17-2018, 06:43 PM
That's even worse ... in fact I know people like you ... very scary.
Are you saying you were forced to vote for Trump because of FB?
Dr. Who
07-17-2018, 06:44 PM
Right. So unless the DNC is breaking US espionage laws there should be no sensitive US government information on a DNC server.
Don't underrate the utility of getting dirt on important people.
MisterVeritis
07-17-2018, 06:46 PM
Don't underrate the utility of getting dirt on important people.
Dirt is not sensitive US Government information. Or are you claiming there was intelligence information on the DNC servers?
I once read a biographical sketch on a certain Soviet General Officer. It seems he discovered, late in life, an appreciation for very young boys. He was from one of the "Stans". I suppose that was dirt. I just wanted to know what kind of tactics he might use if we fought him.
Dr. Who
07-17-2018, 06:49 PM
Do you believe Russsian agents are illegal aliens, only doing work Americans won't do?
:grin:
Hardly. However, Russians are quite adept at sarcasm - posting on internet forums could be a fun job - nyet?
MisterVeritis
07-17-2018, 06:50 PM
Hardly. However, Russians are quite adept at sarcasm - posting on internet forums could be a fun job - nyet?
I wonder if they pay by the post or by the hour?
I wonder if they pay by the post or by the hour?
They give you the option to work by the hour for minimum wage or by the post. It is up to you to decide how much money you want to make per day.
I have no idea.
MisterVeritis
07-17-2018, 06:54 PM
They give you the option to work by the hour for minimum wage or by the post. It is up to you to decide how much money you want to make per day.
I have no idea.
I am going by the post count then. I wonder if they pay by the word?
Dr. Who
07-17-2018, 06:57 PM
Dirt is not sensitive US Government information. Or are you claiming there was intelligence information on the DNC servers?
I once read a biographical sketch on a certain Soviet General Officer. It seems he discovered, late in life, an appreciation for very young boys. He was from one of the "Stans". I suppose that was dirt. I just wanted to know what kind of tactics he might use if we fought him.
Dirt is always useful if you want to blackmail someone. Other than that, who knows what email trails might contain? People can be so careless in what they discuss.
Dr. Who
07-17-2018, 06:58 PM
I wonder if they pay by the post or by the hour?
Nah. They're on salary.
Tahuyaman
07-17-2018, 07:12 PM
I doubt the FSB took out any ads. More likely they showed up on forums of all kinds and dissed Hillary pretending to be Republicans. Oh wait...
They were countered by thousands of people like True Blue.
MisterVeritis
07-17-2018, 07:13 PM
Dirt is always useful if you want to blackmail someone. Other than that, who knows what email trails might contain? People can be so careless in what they discuss.
However, these were not US government computer systems on a US government network.
MisterVeritis
07-17-2018, 07:14 PM
They were countered by thousands of people like True Blue.
I always believed he was paid for by the Crooked Hillery campaign. Bob the Slob too.
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