Trump Legitimizes QAnon

[Agent Zero]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEzizlTc8tg Now that Trump has legitimized this far right, conspiracy group pimped by Alex Jones and the worst of the alt right... Are they real? Do you support them? More... https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/01/us/politics/what-is-qanon.html What Is QAnon: Explaining the Internet Conspiracy Theory That Showed Up at a Trump Rally Do you remember Pizzagate? It’s a little like that: a web of baseless conspiracy theories. And its supporters were highly visible at an event for the president in Florida. Imagehttps://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/08/02/us/politics/02QAnon1/merlin_141917688_aea548af-cbd7-43d7-87da-41f80de247a3-articleLarge.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp&disable=upscale By Justin Bank (https://www.nytimes.com/by/justin-bank), Liam Stack (http://www.nytimes.com/by/liam-stack) and Daniel Victor (http://www.nytimes.com/by/daniel-victor) Those watching President Trump’s rally in Tampa on Tuesday couldn’t help but be exposed to a fringe movement that discusses several loosely connected and vaguely defined — and baseless — conspiracy theories. In one shot on Fox News, the president was partially obscured by a sign (https://twitter.com/AndrewKirell/status/1024438025391099904?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweet embed|twterm^1024438025391099904&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fsplinternews.com%2Fajax%2Fin set%2Fiframe%3Fid%3Dtwitter-1024438025391099904%26autosize%3D1) in the crowd reading “We Are Q.” In another shot during the president’s speech, a sign promoting the debunked Seth Rich conspiracy theory (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/13/business/fox-news-seth-rich-lawsuit.html), with the hashtag #Qanon, came into focus in the center of the screen. Some attendees wore T-shirts with a blocky Q. Others held up signs (https://twitter.com/drunkintheam/status/1024449381414522880) with the letter. They were all self-described “followers of Q,” an anonymous person or group of people who claim to be privy to government secrets. That supposedly classified information has been revealed on the 4chan and 8chan message boards and spread around mainstream internet platforms like YouTube, Facebook and Twitter. Q has attracted people — the exact number is hard to know — eager to consume his “bread crumbs,” or new details in a sprawling web of conspiracy theories. What is going on? Just give me the basics so I can minimally understand what’s going on Here is the short version: Q claims to be a government insider exposing an entrenched, international bureaucracy that is secretly plotting all sorts of nefarious schemes against the Trump administration and its supporters. The character uses lingo that implies that he or she has a military or intelligence background. It’s a stew of various, but connecting, conspiracy theories that generally hold Mr. Trump as a conquistador battling a cabal of anti-American saboteurs who have taken over government, industry, media and various other institutions of public life in a plan to … well, the overarching goals of the nefarious actors are not clear. Imagehttps://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/08/02/us/politics/02QAnon2/02QAnon2-articleLarge.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp&disable=upscale A woman holding a “Q” sign at a Trump rally in Florida on Tuesday night.CreditRod Millington/EPA, via ShutterstockImagehttps://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/08/02/us/politics/02QAnon3/02QAnon3-articleLarge.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp&disable=upscale CreditRod Millington/EPA, via Shutterstock The slightly longer version A growing group of people (more on the scale and scope of that community below) are coalescing around a collection of theories and half-thoughts that they believe reveal an untold story of current world events. To decode what they believe is actually happening, followers of Q sift through the president’s tweets, government data sets or news articles. Ben Decker, a research fellow at the Shorenstein Center on Media, Politics and Public Policy at Harvard, described followers of the QAnon narrative as “an interactive conspiracy community.” Sometimes followers of Q just look for signs that he exists. A popular Rosetta Stone they use is to look for uses of the number 17 (the letter Q’s placement in the alphabet). So when Alabama’s football team presented Mr. Trump with a jersey with the number 17, it was taken as coded signaling of Q’s influence (https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/8bc0ft/why_does_he_keep_picking_17_for_jerseys_shouldnt/). (The team was visiting the White House as the champions of the 2017 college football season and had presented President Barack Obama with a jersey bearing the number 15 (https://detroit.cbslocal.com/2013/04/16/president-obama-expects-to-see-alabama-at-the-white-house-again/) when it visited after winning a championship in 2015.)

[Agent Zero]

More...do the righties on this forum support this group? Yes, or No?

Q’s followers ascribe secret coordination and hidden motives to an endless parade of politicians, journalists, and leaders of industry and other institutions. Often, their theories are wildly at odds with reality.
The community uses the language of mind-bending pop culture alternate realities like “The Matrix” or “Alice in Wonderland.” It is common to tell stories of how followers have been “redpilled (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=red pill),” or have come to believe that observable reality is false and the QAnon narrative is real.
The shared rush to interpret clues from a “drop” of information from Q resembles something close to what video gamers call an MMO, or massive multiplayer online game.
Why should I care about a fringe corner of the internet?

Because QAnon is not limited to a fringe corner of the internet. In addition to its front-and-center presence at Mr. Trump’s rally, it has been promoted by celebrities including Roseanne Barr (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/29/arts/television/twitter-posts-roseanne-barr.html) and Curt Schilling (https://www.thedailybeast.com/curt-schilling-backs-pro-trump-qanon-conspiracy-theory), the former baseball star who has a podcast for Breitbart.
The paranoid worldview has crossed over from the internet into the real world several times in recent months. On more than one occasion, people believed to be followers of QAnon have shown up — sometimes with weapons — in places that the character told them were somehow connected to anti-Trump conspiracies.
“The biggest danger is you are one mentally unstable person away from the next massive incident that defines whatever happens next,” Mr. Decker said. “The next Pizzagate, which for better or worse did define the political conversation for a while.”
In June, a man armed with a rifle and a handgun drove an armored vehicle to the Hoover Dam (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/skbaer/qanon-believer-arrested-hoover-dam) on what he said was a mission from QAnon: to demand that the government release the Justice Department’s report from its inspector general on the conduct of F.B.I. agents during the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server.

[Common]

Lol you are a perfect example of why trump has a higher favorability than Clinton, Bush and Obama

[Hoosier8]

Wonder why the OP isn’t incensed about the Blacks for Trump sign?

[Agent Zero]

Wonder why the OP isn’t incensed about the Blacks for Trump sign?

Because he already knows they're a scam.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/08/23/the-strange-story-of-that-blacks-for-trump-guy-standing-behind-potus-at-his-phoenix-rally/

At a number of political rallies over the past year, a character calling himself “Michael the Black Man” has appeared in the crowd directly behind Donald Trump, impossible to miss and prompting widespread fascination.
He holds signs that scream “BLACKS FOR TRUMP” and wears a T-shirt proclaiming with equal conviction that “TRUMP & Republicans Are Not Racist.”
Almost always, he plugs his wild website, Gods2.com, across his chest.
And so it was Tuesday night before a crowd of Trump supporters in Phoenix who had come to watch another show. There was the president, whipping up the wildly cheering crowd (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/08/23/as-trump-ranted-and-rambled-in-phoenix-his-crowd-slowly-thinned/), and then there was Michael the Black Man, chanting just beyond Trump’s right shoulder in that trademark T-shirt.
The presence of Michael — variously known as Michael Symonette, Maurice Woodside and Mikael Israel — has inspired not only trending Twitter hashtags but a great deal of curiosity and Google searches. Internet sleuths find the man’s bizarre URL, an easily accessible gateway to his strange and checkered past.

[Agent Zero]

Lol you are a perfect example of why trump has a higher favorability than Clinton, Bush and Obama


Wonder why the OP isn’t incensed about the Blacks for Trump sign?
Ok. That's two supporting QAnon.

Any more?

[IMPress Polly]

Yeeesh, these people are a bunch of Qnitics!

[MisterVeritis]

Ok. That's two supporting QAnon.

Any more?
It looks interesting. Now that you have made me aware I will look into it.

[Agent Zero]

That's three!

[Mister D]

Who?

[MisterVeritis]

That's three!
Mostly what I found are a number of Enemedia sites claiming Qanon is a conspiracy theory group. I started to watch one of the many videos. I stopped after three minutes.

[Hoosier8]

Because he already knows they're a scam.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/08/23/the-strange-story-of-that-blacks-for-trump-guy-standing-behind-potus-at-his-phoenix-rally/

At a number of political rallies over the past year, a character calling himself “Michael the Black Man” has appeared in the crowd directly behind Donald Trump, impossible to miss and prompting widespread fascination.
He holds signs that scream “BLACKS FOR TRUMP” and wears a T-shirt proclaiming with equal conviction that “TRUMP & Republicans Are Not Racist.”
Almost always, he plugs his wild website, Gods2.com, across his chest.
And so it was Tuesday night before a crowd of Trump supporters in Phoenix who had come to watch another show. There was the president, whipping up the wildly cheering crowd (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/08/23/as-trump-ranted-and-rambled-in-phoenix-his-crowd-slowly-thinned/), and then there was Michael the Black Man, chanting just beyond Trump’s right shoulder in that trademark T-shirt.
The presence of Michael — variously known as Michael Symonette, Maurice Woodside and Mikael Israel — has inspired not only trending Twitter hashtags but a great deal of curiosity and Google searches. Internet sleuths find the man’s bizarre URL, an easily accessible gateway to his strange and checkered past.
Pastor Darrell Scott thanked President Donald Trump for helping inner-city communities, predicting he would be the “most pro-black president in our lifetime.”

[Hoosier8]

Ok. That's two supporting QAnon.

Any more?

Not fond of rational thinking eh?

[roadmaster]

I watch Q and have been saying for years before Q we have a pedophile problem that is hidden. I knew of the cover-ups back in the 1970's. Q gets something's right but he is definably right about evil has no boundaries. Rights have a hard time comprehending this, they can't be barged with or have a discussion with. Nor can we back up one step.

[Crepitus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEzizlTc8tg

Now that Trump has legitimized this far right, conspiracy group pimped by Alex Jones and the worst of the alt right...

Are they real? Do you support them?

More...


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/01/us/politics/what-is-qanon.html

What Is QAnon: Explaining the Internet Conspiracy Theory That Showed Up at a Trump RallyDo you remember Pizzagate? It’s a little like that: a web of baseless conspiracy theories. And its supporters were highly visible at an event for the president in Florida.
Imagehttps://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/08/02/us/politics/02QAnon1/merlin_141917688_aea548af-cbd7-43d7-87da-41f80de247a3-articleLarge.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp&disable=upscale
By Justin Bank (https://www.nytimes.com/by/justin-bank), Liam Stack (http://www.nytimes.com/by/liam-stack) and Daniel Victor (http://www.nytimes.com/by/daniel-victor)



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Those watching President Trump’s rally in Tampa on Tuesday couldn’t help but be exposed to a fringe movement that discusses several loosely connected and vaguely defined — and baseless — conspiracy theories.
In one shot on Fox News, the president was partially obscured by a sign (https://twitter.com/AndrewKirell/status/1024438025391099904?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1024438025391099904&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fsplinternews.com%2Fajax%2Fin set%2Fiframe%3Fid%3Dtwitter-1024438025391099904%26autosize%3D1) in the crowd reading “We Are Q.” In another shot during the president’s speech, a sign promoting the debunked Seth Rich conspiracy theory (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/13/business/fox-news-seth-rich-lawsuit.html), with the hashtag #Qanon, came into focus in the center of the screen. Some attendees wore T-shirts with a blocky Q. Others held up signs (https://twitter.com/drunkintheam/status/1024449381414522880) with the letter.
They were all self-described “followers of Q,” an anonymous person or group of people who claim to be privy to government secrets. That supposedly classified information has been revealed on the 4chan and 8chan message boards and spread around mainstream internet platforms like YouTube, Facebook and Twitter. Q has attracted people — the exact number is hard to know — eager to consume his “bread crumbs,” or new details in a sprawling web of conspiracy theories.
What is going on?
Just give me the basics so I can minimally understand what’s going onHere is the short version: Q claims to be a government insider exposing an entrenched, international bureaucracy that is secretly plotting all sorts of nefarious schemes against the Trump administration and its supporters. The character uses lingo that implies that he or she has a military or intelligence background.


It’s a stew of various, but connecting, conspiracy theories that generally hold Mr. Trump as a conquistador battling a cabal of anti-American saboteurs who have taken over government, industry, media and various other institutions of public life in a plan to … well, the overarching goals of the nefarious actors are not clear.


Imagehttps://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/08/02/us/politics/02QAnon2/02QAnon2-articleLarge.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp&disable=upscale


A woman holding a “Q” sign at a Trump rally in Florida on Tuesday night.CreditRod Millington/EPA, via ShutterstockImagehttps://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/08/02/us/politics/02QAnon3/02QAnon3-articleLarge.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp&disable=upscale


CreditRod Millington/EPA, via Shutterstock
The slightly longer versionA growing group of people (more on the scale and scope of that community below) are coalescing around a collection of theories and half-thoughts that they believe reveal an untold story of current world events. To decode what they believe is actually happening, followers of Q sift through the president’s tweets, government data sets or news articles.
Ben Decker, a research fellow at the Shorenstein Center on Media, Politics and Public Policy at Harvard, described followers of the QAnon narrative as “an interactive conspiracy community.”

Sometimes followers of Q just look for signs that he exists. A popular Rosetta Stone they use is to look for uses of the number 17 (the letter Q’s placement in the alphabet). So when Alabama’s football team presented Mr. Trump with a jersey with the number 17, it was taken as coded signaling of Q’s influence (https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/8bc0ft/why_does_he_keep_picking_17_for_jerseys_shouldnt/). (The team was visiting the White House as the champions of the 2017 college football season and had presented President Barack Obama with a jersey bearing the number 15 (https://detroit.cbslocal.com/2013/04/16/president-obama-expects-to-see-alabama-at-the-white-house-again/) when it visited after winning a championship in 2015.)

As long as they shout his name he doesn't care. KKK, neo-nazis, child molesters, it doesn't matter to him.

[roadmaster]

The child molesters are on the Antifa side. They proudly march with boy men love Association and have no shame supporting them.

[Safety]

Wonder why the OP isn’t incensed about the Blacks for Trump sign?

It’s good to know you pointed out two fringe groups that support Trump...

[Dr. Who]

Ok. That's two supporting QAnon.

Any more?
I read somewhere today that Trump would treat QAnon as he treats anyone who supports him - even if they are off the wall or subversive, he would never say so.

[Hoosier8]

It’s good to know you pointed out two fringe groups that support Trump...
Black people a fringe group? Isn’t that racist?

[DGUtley]

I never heard of Q, other than "The Q" which is the arena where the Cavs play. I've never heard of this Alex Jones guy either.

[Peter1469]

QAnon's stuff ends up on Before Its News daily. Funny to read. Clearly out there.

About Q's voting preference: do you think someone or a group of people who believe in these sorts of conspiracies are going to vote (D).

Stupid thread.

[Hoosier8]

It’s good to know you pointed out two fringe groups that support Trump...

Sucks to be you.

“This is probably going to be … the most pro-black president I’ve seen in my lifetime,” Mr. Scott said Wednesday in an Oval Office meeting with the president. “This president actually wants to prove something to our community, our faith-based community and our ethnic community. The last president didn’t feel like he had to.”

[Admiral Ackbar]

Ok. That's two supporting QAnon.

Any more?

Agent Zero.. Do you support Antifa? That is a group causing far more misery than this shadowy group you are trying to stir up controversy about.

God Bless America, God Bless Donald Trump, and God Bless American Patriots standing for our civil rights

[Captdon]

I know nothing about them. Don't count me as a supporter. No, I don't need to find out anything about them. I if they are a big deal I will hear about it.

[gamewell45]

I never heard of Q, other than "The Q" which is the arena where the Cavs play. I've never heard of this Alex Jones guy either.

Alex Jones is a far right fringe media owner (infowars.com); he's into conspiracy theories. I think he's dropping acid most of the time with some of the conspiracy theories he conjures up.

[Mister D]

Does far right mean anything specific at this point?

[Tahuyaman]

Who? I had not heard of them until now. I'm sure Agent Zero will translate that to mean I'm a supporter of their cause whatever that is.

[MisterVeritis]

I read somewhere today that Trump would treat QAnon as he treats anyone who supports him - even if they are off the wall or subversive, he would never say so.
Is QAnon subversive?

[Safety]

Black people a fringe group? Isn’t that racist?

“Blacks for Trump” is a fringe group. Nice try at being disingenuous.

[Safety]

Sucks to be you.

“This is probably going to be … the most pro-black president I’ve seen in my lifetime,” Mr. Scott said Wednesday in an Oval Office meeting with the president. “This president actually wants to prove something to our community, our faith-based community and our ethnic community. The last president didn’t feel like he had to.”

Not nearly as much as it sucks to be like you.

[Crepitus]

Lol you are a perfect example of why trump has a higher favorability than Clinton, Bush and Obama

So does that mean you support "Q"?

[Crepitus]

It looks interesting. Now that you have made me aware I will look into it.

Oh this is right up your alley, trust me.

[Crepitus]

The child molesters are on the Antifa side. They proudly march with boy men love Association and have no shame supporting them.

You have once again fallen for fake news.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/alt-right-frames-protesters-as-pedophiles-with-fake-nambla-sign

[MisterVeritis]

Oh this is right up your alley, trust me.
You have spent more time evaluating them than I have. However, if they speak the truth I shall have to look into them further.

[Captdon]

Black people a fringe group? Isn’t that racist?


Not if they support Trump.

[roadmaster]

You have once again fallen for fake news.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/alt-right-frames-protesters-as-pedophiles-with-fake-nambla-sign Wrong I have watched the protest and what they say. I don't go to the dailybeast to get my news. I said this a long time ago.

[Captdon]

Not nearly as much as it sucks to be like you.

Ouch! That had to hurt.

[Tahuyaman]

“Blacks for Trump” is a fringe group. Nice try at being disingenuous.

I'm sure you consider all blacks who have rejected liberalism to be members of a fringe element.

[Agent Zero]

I'm sure you consider all blacks who have rejected liberalism to be members of a fringe element.
Not really...from what I've seen (see: Ben Carson) most are somewhat off kilter but one thing they all have is an appreciation of greed like Trump as opposed to an appreciation of their heritage.

That's the thing with Trump. He's attracted all the fringe kooks and conspiracy theorists.

[Agent Zero]

QAnon's stuff ends up on Before Its News daily. Funny to read. Clearly out there.

About Q's voting preference: do you think someone or a group of people who believe in these sorts of conspiracies are going to vote (D).

Stupid thread.

Why is it a stupid thread?

Did they not show up en masse at Trump's rally in Tampa? And if they support Trump, why would they vote D?

[Mister D]

Not really...from what I've seen (see: Ben Carson) most are somewhat off kilter but one thing they all have is an appreciation of greed like Trump as opposed to an appreciation of their heritage.

That's the thing with Trump. He's attracted all the fringe kooks and conspiracy theorists.
You are really are the black custodian.

[Tahuyaman]

I'm sure you consider all blacks who have rejected liberalism to be members of a fringe element.


Not really...from what I've seen (see: Ben Carson) most are somewhat off kilter but one thing they all have is an appreciation of greed like Trump as opposed to an appreciation of their heritage.

That's the thing with Trump. He's attracted all the fringe kooks and conspiracy theorists.

Of course, any black person who has left the liberal plantation is always considered off kilter by leftists. They want blacks to remain in their place.

[Tahuyaman]

You are really are the black custodian.

Among other things.

[Jeb!]

Who cares?

[Peter1469]

Is QAnon subversive?

The Deep State says yes.

[Peter1469]

Why is it a stupid thread?

Did they not show up en masse at Trump's rally in Tampa? And if they support Trump, why would they vote D?
Politicians don't tell a voting block to go away. Please, stop embarrassing yourself.

[Mister D]

Politicians don't tell a voting block to go away. Please, stop embarrassing yourself.

In this case only to please people who hate him and would never vote for him anyway.

[Lummy]

Who cares?
The most profound post on this thread.

[Hoosier8]

Not nearly as much as it sucks to be like you.
Smart and successful? Apparently not something that appeals to you.

[Safety]

Smart and successful? Apparently not something that appeals to you.

Also something that you will never attain.

[Safety]

Smart and successful? Apparently not something that appeals to you.

Also something that you will never attain.

[Hoosier8]

Also something that you will never attain.

Ah, another proggy that knows nothing.

[Jeb!]

The most profound post on this thread.
I just said what immediately came to my mind. Less than 1% of people know what "Qanon" is. And I would like for the people who get outraged about pizzagate speculation to explain why Tony Podesta has gross paintings in his campaign office.

[Crepitus]

Wrong I have watched the protest and what they say. I don't go to the dailybeast to get my news. I said this a long time ago.

Sorry kid, it just isn't true. Wishing it to be so doesn't change that.

[Captdon]

Not really...from what I've seen (see: Ben Carson) most are somewhat off kilter but one thing they all have is an appreciation of greed like Trump as opposed to an appreciation of their heritage.

That's the thing with Trump. He's attracted all the fringe kooks and conspiracy theorists.

No, Anti-Fa and BLM are yours.

[Tahuyaman]

Conspiracy theorists are always going to be around. They come and go with every electoral change. Only good-balls place any value upon them.

[Tahuyaman]

No, Anti-Fa and BLM are yours.


Those aren't conspiracy theorists They are activist groups advocating violence.

[Mini Me]

Alex Jones is a far right fringe media owner (infowars.com); he's into conspiracy theories. I think he's dropping acid most of the time with some of the conspiracy theories he conjures up.
Jones is the darling of the RWNJ Nut Jobs!
As crazy as they get!

[Hoosier8]

Jones is the darling of the RWNJ Nut Jobs!
As crazy as they get!


Can’t get any crazier than the left wing nut that shot Scalise and the LWNJs that are threatening him and his family.