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Robo
08-02-2018, 09:25 AM
Just a thought about plastic guns made with a 3D printer.

I know plastic technology and printer technology are far, far advanced these days and amazing. But as far as I know, plastic rifling in a plastic gun barrel would only be good for about a half dozen shots at best with any kind of accuracy. As far as I know plastic springs and fasteners technology is hardly reliable for any lasting durability and as long as the plastic 3D printed gun is unloaded it might well be indictable if all of its parts are plastic. Once a bullet is installed in it, OOPS! It's now detectable by a metal detector, unless somebody knows there's such a thing as an "all plastic" bullet.

I think the leftist hysteria about 3D printed plastic guns is just more pure horse manure! They need a new issue every day now that the midterm elections are getting closer. They'll adopt any stupid issue and hysterically promote it as a political disaster that only they, the left can fix with more government and thereby, more hysterical horse manure spreading Democrats in offices of government power.

Government is force by definition and corruption by nature. The BIGGER the government, the BIGGER the force and the BIGGER the corruption!

Cletus
08-02-2018, 10:03 AM
We saw the same kind of hysteria 25 years ago when Glock hit the US market.

MMC
08-02-2018, 02:07 PM
3-D Printed Guns Are A Reminder That Gun Control In America Is Futile (http://thefederalist.com/2018/08/02/3-d-printed-guns-reminder-gun-control-america-futile/)
An American’s ability to build a firearm is limited only by his or her ingenuity, and we are an ingenious people.



In case you missed it, Americans are up against yet another imminent doomsday scenario. If you weren’t already killed off by the repeal of the Affordable Care Act’s individual mandate, or by the Trump tax cuts, or by the repeal of net neutrality, or by Brett Kavanaugh’s nomination to the Supreme Court, we’re now told that you will certainly be killed by 3-D printed firearms.


In 2013, Cody Wilson and an organization called Defense Distributed released plans for the first fully 3-D printable gun: The Liberator (https://defcad.com/library/845f302e-3d8f-4163-98af-e3eec68d82b4/). The design was named after the eponymous sheet metal pistol that the Allies airdropped behind enemy lines during WWII to arm resistance fighters. That gun was crudely made and unreliable, but it was far more successful as a propaganda point. In Nazi-controlled France, where private gun ownership was illegal, anyone could secretly have a gun. Even worse, they could use that gun to get their hands on a better gun.

The Obama administration used an obscure regulation governing military arms exports to force the Liberator designs off the internet. They reasoned that sharing the blueprint to build a gun online, where it could be downloaded by anyone on earth, was just as dangerous as exporting a machine gun or missile launcher overseas. But the fact that not one Liberator has been used in a crime, despite being downloaded over 100,000 times, should tell you all you need to know about the “risk” these designs pose.


Right now, anyone can walk into a Home Depot or Lowe’s and spend $20 in the plumbing aisle to build their own single-shot firearm (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LUQ8ESVu5s) that would put a Revolutionary musket to shame (both in accuracy and fire rate). Apparently, it wasn’t that hard for gun enthusiasts to figure out that a 12 gauge shotgun shell fits perfectly within a three-fourth inch pipe.


Take any elementary machining course at your local community college, and after just a few classes, you will come away with the knowledge needed to weld and rivet together your own WWII-era repeating firearm from a parts kit. Just to prove he could do it, one man even built an AK-47 out of a rusty shovel (http://thechive.com/2012/12/06/apparently-you-can-make-an-ak-47-out-of-just-about-anything-25-photos/) he bought at a garage sale for $2.


If you have a hand drill and an afternoon to kill, you can literally mill-out an untraceable AR-15 lower receiver by hand using nothing but online instructional videos for guidance. Or, you can spend a couple hundred dollars on a 3-D printer and have a plastic gun ready to fire in a matter of days. An American’s ability to build a firearm is limited only by his or her ingenuity, and we are an ingenious people.


The British Army tried to confiscate the colonists’ guns and failed. Today’s gun control advocates have already revealed they share the same endgame. When Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein’s assault weapon ban went into effect in 1994, she admitted (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffI-tWh37UY) during a news interview that if she had the votes, she would have said “Mr. and Mrs. America, turn them all in.”


Now that the barriers to entry to build a firearm have all but disappeared, complete civilian disarmament is literally impossible. While the Founders never could have envisioned 3-D printing technologies, they understood the importance of being able to arm oneself. There is no right to keep and bear arms without a right to manufacture your own firearm, just as there is no First Amendment without the right to print a book or start your own religion.



Despite talking points to the contrary, there’s nothing to fear from 3-D printed guns. Criminals will continue to steal or illegally buy their crime guns, not build them out of plastic. Anyone truly bent on committing a crime with a plastic gun has already had the ability to do that for decades.


Any elected official who governs in the interests of the American people and preserves the Second Amendment’s protections has nothing to worry about an armed populace. Likewise, the fearmongering coming from the likes of Schumer should tell you all you need to know about his intentions.....snip~


http://thefederalist.com/2018/08/02/3-d-printed-guns-reminder-gun-control-america-futile/



The Democrats and their Cult Following have failed.....again!

MMC
08-02-2018, 02:22 PM
Let’s Debunk The Misleading Panic Over 3-D Guns (http://thefederalist.com/2018/08/01/lets-debunk-misleading-panic-3-d-guns/)


The newest bugaboo of the gun control crowd is the bloodcurdling “3-D printer gun.” Or, as Alyssa Milano, a self-styled expert on these matters, might call it: “downloadable death (https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/30/opinions/3d-printed-guns-opinion-alyssa-milano/index.html).” Reporters at CNN ask (https://edition.cnn.com/2018/07/31/us/3d-printed-plastic-guns/index.html?utm_medium=social&utm_content=2018-07-31T15%3A13%3A36&utm_term=image&utm_source=twCNNi), “3-D guns: Untraceable, undetectable and unstoppable?” Even President Donald Trump tweeted (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1024264286418489345) that “he’s looking into 3-D Plastic Guns being sold to the public. Already spoke to NRA, doesn’t seem to make much sense!”


It makes plenty of sense.


First of all, “3-D Plastic Guns” aren’t being sold to the public. Nor are “downloadable firearms” or “ghost guns.” These things don’t exist. Data, code, and information is being sold to the public. There is no magical contraption that creates a new gun on demand. Sorry.


(As of this writing, a federal judge in Seattle has issued a temporary restraining order (https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/the-latest-judge-blocks-release-of-3d-printed-gun-plans/2018/07/31/08ee3c38-9510-11e8-818b-e9b7348cd87d_story.html) stopping release of downloadable blueprints for 3-D-printed guns. This prior restraint on speech won’t last long if the First Amendment still means anything.)


Today, life has become far more convenient, and schematics that offer hobbyists plans for assembly or creation of firearms can be found across the Internet. Although a person might need a high degree of proficiency to pull off making one, they certainly don’t need a 3-D printer. Here, for instance, is a video of an industrious fellow turning hundreds of cans of Pabst Blue Ribbon into an AR15 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxjQw1njCzw). All of it, already permissible.


Guess what? If you’re unable to legally purchase firearms, you are already prohibited from making a gun in your home, just as you are prohibited from buying a gun through a straw purchase or stealing one from your neighbor or smuggling one into the country. That’s settled law. Good work.


Censoring code on the Internet simply because you find guns objectionable, though, is another story. As Wilson notes (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/07/18/meet-the-man-who-wants-to-bring-on-the-age-of-downloadable-guns-and-may-have-already-succeeded/?noredirect=on) in Washington Post, code “is the essence of expression. It meets all the requirements of speech — it’s artistic and political, you can manipulate it, and it needs human involvement to become other things.” How can the state ban the transfer of knowledge used to help someone engage in an activity that is completely legal? Scratch that — to engage in an activity that is constitutionally protected?


The entire case against 3-D guns is propelled by the notion, normalized over many years, that access to firearms is problematic, even though the presence of guns doesn’t equate to increased violence (http://www.aei.org/publication/chart-of-the-day-more-guns-less-gun-violence-between-1993-and-2013/). And who knows, perhaps one day, as machines evolve and become more reliable and powerful, it won’t be prohibitively expensive or inaccessible for the average law-abiding person to make his own AR15 or 1911. Whether that’s a positive or negative development is debatable. But gun-control activists are trying to dictate what that future looks like now......snip~


http://thefederalist.com/2018/08/01/lets-debunk-misleading-panic-3-d-guns/



This will be another case wherein a Liberal Judge will be overruled. Still what needs to happen is for that Liberal Judge to be humiliated in the Public Square. What say ye?

Tahuyaman
08-02-2018, 03:33 PM
We saw the same kind of hysteria 25 years ago when Glock hit the US market.

I remember the Glock hysteria. I never did see what the big deal was then.

Peter1469
08-02-2018, 03:35 PM
I think the media and the left, sorry to repeat myself, think you hit a button on your 3D printer and in short order a gun comes out. Like Star Trek or something.

El Guapo
08-02-2018, 08:12 PM
That's exactly what they think. Because they're idiots.

El Guapo
08-02-2018, 08:14 PM
Hey idiots:

Guns are not made of plastic.

They're not made of low melt pot metal either.