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Originally Posted by keyser soze

What list...oh you mean the phony 'war on christians' list? That's manufactured...show me the list? Show me the posts? You're all either paranoid or have been duped or both.

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Methinks you struck a nerve. Ever since the Diebold debacle, Bushco needed to 'blame' his win on something. He chose to allow the religious zealots to believe that it was their vote.

We all know the reality, though. So, those who pander to the religious zealots, will fall by the wayside. Some, because their lifestyle doesn't match the pandering, and some due to the fact that there just aren't enough nutjobs to match those who prefer a reality based govt.

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Originally Posted by keyser soze

What list...oh you mean the phony 'war on christians' list? That's manufactured...show me the list? Show me the posts? You're all either paranoid or have been duped or both.

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So the "war on children", "war on women", "war on poverty", "war on drugs", etc, etc, means you're all either paranoid or have been duped or both. Right.

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Originally Posted by Dagny

Methinks you struck a nerve. Ever since the Diebold debacle, Bushco needed to 'blame' his win on something. He chose to allow the religious zealots to believe that it was their vote.

We all know the reality, though. So, those who pander to the religious zealots, will fall by the wayside. Some, because their lifestyle doesn't match the pandering, and some due to the fact that there just aren't enough nutjobs to match those who prefer a reality based govt.

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Bush was a two term President. :laugh: So, if Bush pandered to "religous zealots", it did him some good.

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Originally Posted by Alias

So the "war on children", "war on women", "war on poverty", "war on drugs", etc, etc, means you're all either paranoid or have been duped or both. Right.

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Ouch. LOL

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Originally Posted by Nemo

Why? Because politics is not the place for it.

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George Washington didn't think so.

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Originally Posted by Nemo

Why? Because politics is not the place for it.

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I'm sorry you feel that way but no one need defer to your feelings on the matter.

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Originally Posted by Alias

George Washington didn't think so.

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Originally Posted by Nemo

Why? Because politics is not the place for it.

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Do you keep your opinions out of politics? No, you don't. Won't be able to convince me you don't.
I chose not to vote for Bush or Obama because of not what they said but how they voted on issues. Anyone can say God told them to do something. Which god are they talking about?

You are wrong. The first thing they did was to pray.

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Originally Posted by Nemo

If there is anything that can be gleaned from the intent of the framers of the Constitution, it is that our nation was founded on secular principles and not religious doctrine. The founding fathers well knew that the separation of church and state was the only way to preserve religious freedom. Religious wars had been waged in Europe over its union; and, indeed, some of the first colonists, the Pilgrims, came to America to escape state-sponsored religious persecution. Our right to worship freely, without government interference, is guaranteed by the First Amendment to the Constitution, and not by God. It is time that people of faith reconcile themselves with this fundamental fact.

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This is a straw man argument.

The separation of church and state does not mean religion has no place in public life. It's about time you reconcile yourself to the fact that it's a big religious world out there. Deal with it. :smiley: