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    What If...

    ...the majority of the 9/11 hijackers had been from Iran instead of Saudi Arabia?

    What if Hezbollah had orchestrated the attacks instead of Al Qaeda?

    What if two Iranian nationals operating out of the Iranian embassy had tested cockpit security on a US flight two years before the attacks happened?

    What if after the attacks the US government released a report connecting the hijackers to members of the Iranian government?

    What if after the attack the Iranian government continued to fund and arm Hezbollah?

    Is there any doubt at all that the US government would have nuked Iran into oblivion?
    Last edited by Ethereal; 02-11-2018 at 03:58 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    ...the majority of the 9/11 hijackers had been from Iran instead of Saudi Arabia?
    Do all the other factors remain the same, Ethereal? In other words.....is the mastermind behind the 9-11 plot, Khalid Sheik Mohammed, still a Pakistani National? And where Osama Bin Laden was a Saudi he had been expelled by that nation who then informed the US of his whereabouts...would the cleric Zawahiri still be an Egyptian in your scenario there? In fact, the cell leader on the ground here was also Egyptian, Mohamed Atta....the Saudis being the muscle behind the operation for the most part, so do all of those truths remain constant in your query there......Ethereal. Because if yes, the answer is nothing. Where the terrorists were from...especially those they used to cut flight attendant fingers off while gaining access to flight cabins....is as relevant as Timothy McVeigh being from Lockport, New York.

    What if Hezbollah had orchestrated the attacks instead of Al Qaeda?
    Then the "why" of the attack would be altered. al-Qaeda attacked us for being on the Arabian Peninsula, namely, Iraq. Our support for Israel secondary. Hezbollah would have made our support for Israel primary, our presence in Iraq secondary.

    What if two Iranian nationals operating out of the Iranian embassy had tested cockpit security on a US flight two years before the attacks happened?
    Bet many did. Took flight lessons, etc.
    What if after the attacks the US government released a report connecting the hijackers to members of the Iranian government?
    Rather than the easily read black and white Fatwa that Bin Laden wrote you explaining exactly why you got lit up?

    What if after the attack the Iranian government continue to fund and arm Hezbollah?
    Like they do today?

    Is there any doubt at all that the US government would have nuked Iran into oblivion?
    We would have done nothing of the sort, will you hold yourself together, Sir. Geez.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransom View Post
    Do all the other factors remain the same, Ethereal? In other words.....is the mastermind behind the 9-11 plot, Khalid Sheik Mohammed, still a Pakistani National? And where Osama Bin Laden was a Saudi he had been expelled by that nation who then informed the US of his whereabouts...would the cleric Zawahiri still be an Egyptian in your scenario there? In fact, the cell leader on the ground here was also Egyptian, Mohamed Atta....the Saudis being the muscle behind the operation for the most part, so do all of those truths remain constant in your query there......Ethereal. Because if yes, the answer is nothing. Where the terrorists were from...especially those they used to cut flight attendant fingers off while gaining access to flight cabins....is as relevant as Timothy McVeigh being from Lockport, New York.



    Then the "why" of the attack would be altered. al-Qaeda attacked us for being on the Arabian Peninsula, namely, Iraq. Our support for Israel secondary. Hezbollah would have made our support for Israel primary, our presence in Iraq secondary.



    Bet many did. Took flight lessons, etc.


    Rather than the easily read black and white Fatwa that Bin Laden wrote you explaining exactly why you got lit up?



    Like they do today?


    We would have done nothing of the sort, will you hold yourself together, Sir. Geez.
    This is nothing more than a very wordy evasion of the question I posed.
    Last edited by Ethereal; 02-11-2018 at 04:03 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    This is nothing more than a very wordy evasion of the question I posed.
    You're trying to ask what if's concerning 9-11 as you believe the Saudi government was involved. And I explained the mastermind behind this attack and the cell leader on point were both Egyptians. You're not making a correct analogy, apples and oranges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransom View Post
    You're trying to ask what if's concerning 9-11 as you believe the Saudi government was involved. And I explained the mastermind behind this attack and the cell leader on point were both Egyptians. You're not making a correct analogy, apples and oranges.
    I provided three links connecting the Saudi government to AQ and 9/11. If the same kind of evidence existed linking Iran to 9/11, people like you would be howling at the moon and demanding Iran's immediate destruction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    I provided three links connecting the Saudi government to AQ and 9/11. If the same kind of evidence existed linking Iran to 9/11, people like you would be howling at the moon and demanding Iran's immediate destruction.
    Make up your 'people like you' scenarios it's all you have left. 'Would be' this or 'demanding that'.

    Many of the terrorists being from Saudi Arabia is irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Is there any doubt at all that the US government would have nuked Iran into oblivion?
    Yes. There is no indication that Bush would have authorized a nuclear strike due to a conventional terrorist attack. He supported unilateral reductions in the US nuke stockpile, left the treaty that would have kept us from developing a missile shield, pushed for conventional weapons advancements so that nukes wouldn't be needed as bunker busters, and supported having more low yield nukes as a last resort. While he recognized the possible need to use low-yield nukes in the future alongside conventional weapons, I have no reason to believe he would have used a nuke except in response to a threatened or actual WMD attack on the US or its allies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    ...the majority of the 9/11 hijackers had been from Iran instead of Saudi Arabia?

    What if Hezbollah had orchestrated the attacks instead of Al Qaeda?

    What if two Iranian nationals operating out of the Iranian embassy had tested cockpit security on a US flight two years before the attacks happened?

    What if after the attacks the US government released a report connecting the hijackers to members of the Iranian government?

    What if after the attack the Iranian government continued to fund and arm Hezbollah?

    Is there any doubt at all that the US government would have nuked Iran into oblivion?
    The Saudi collaborators are sacred and probably have more dirt on American politcians than the NSA does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    Yes. There is no indication that Bush would have authorized a nuclear strike due to a conventional terrorist attack. He supported unilateral reductions in the US nuke stockpile, left the treaty that would have kept us from developing a missile shield, pushed for conventional weapons advancements so that nukes wouldn't be needed as bunker busters, and supported having more low yield nukes as a last resort. While he recognized the possible need to use low-yield nukes in the future alongside conventional weapons, I have no reason to believe he would have used a nuke except in response to a threatened or actual WMD attack on the US or its allies.
    Fine.

    Replace "nuke into oblivion" with "bomb mercilessly" and my point still stands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    The Saudi collaborators are sacred and probably have more dirt on American politcians than the NSA does.
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