California Poised to Give Illegal Immigrants Free Healthcare .....

[Dr. Who]

Mexico has free to ALL socialized healthcare. Now what is your excuse?

Excuse for what? Thinking that the health of a nation's citizens should be more important than fighting questionable wars abroad?

[Cletus]

No, it's a moral and ethical issue. When people have to choose between staying healthy and paying to stay alive in a society where there is enough money for people not to have to make that choice, it's not politics. The government can well afford the healthcare if they cut back on the military adventurism. It's about priorities and that's a moral choice.

Nonsense. Priorities shouldn't even come into play. There is no priority. They are alien invaders, not citizens.

This is about the legitimate functions of government.

[Dr. Who]

Nonsense. Priorities shouldn't even come into play. There is no priority. They are alien invaders, not citizens.

This is about the legitimate functions of government.

Their are plenty of citizens, many of whom are now seniors, making that choice every day.

[jimmyz]

Excuse for what? Thinking that the health of a nation's citizens should be more important than fighting questionable wars abroad?

You said "citizens". My point was... illegal alien Mexicans and other illegal nationals have free healthcare in their country. Our treasury should not be burdened with their costs. They have no right to our healthcare unless they can pay for it. We all know that that last sentence is so much fairy dust in the wind.

I know you speak from the heart so invite them up to you Canadian hospitality style, and YOU pay for them. Your heart will feel good.

[Cletus]

Their are plenty of citizens, many of whom are now seniors, making that choice every day.

The thread isn't even about citizens. It is about ILLEGAL ALIENS.

Do try to keep up. Even if it were about citizens, charity is not a legitimate function of the federal government. If the states want to engage in it, that is their call, but that is a discussion for a different thread.

[Dr. Who]

The thread isn't even about citizens. It is about ILLEGAL ALIENS.

Do try to keep up. Even if it were about citizens, charity is not a legitimate function of the federal government. If the states want to engage in it, that is their call, but that is a discussion for a different thread.

Well, apparently, that issue is now resolved. No more illegals will be crossing the southern border according to the President. Rest easy.

[MisterVeritis]

No, it's a moral and ethical issue. When people have to choose between staying healthy and paying to stay alive in a society where there is enough money for people not to have to make that choice, it's not politics. The government can well afford the healthcare if they cut back on the military adventurism. It's about priorities and that's a moral choice.

No. You err. The position you proclaim is immoral in the extreme. You seek to steal money from productive Americans to give to unproductive illegal aliens.

The government has no money of its own. It must steal from productive Americans. And you applaud the theft. Your position disgusts me.

[Dr. Who]

No. You err. The position you proclaim is immoral in the extreme. You seek to steal money from productive Americans to give to unproductive illegal aliens.

The government has no money of its own. It must steal from productive Americans. And you applaud the theft. Your position disgusts me.

TBH, I don't favor free healthcare for illegals other than emergency care. I also don't believe in political meddling in third world countries that causes their people to seek sanctuary in America. I believe in raising the standard of third world nations by imposing standards on industries that choose to do business there because of cheap labor and low taxes by imposing a tax on their imports unless they are paying a fair wage to their workers, recognizing that wages are relative to the cost of living in any individual country. I believe that first world nations should put their money where there mouth is and stop supporting deplorable labor standards in countries from which they accept imported goods, that would be intolerable domestically. If you really want to stop illegal migration, stop enabling the bad guys who tend to own the third world governments.

[jimmyz]

TBH, I don't favor free healthcare for illegals other than emergency care. I also don't believe in political meddling in third world countries that causes their people to seek sanctuary in America. I believe in raising the standard of third world nations by imposing standards on industries that choose to do business there because of cheap labor and low taxes by imposing a tax on their imports unless they are paying a fair wage to their workers, recognizing that wages are relative to the cost of living in any individual country. I believe that first world nations should put their money where there mouth is and stop supporting deplorable labor standards in countries from which they accept imported goods, that would be intolerable domestically. If you really want to stop illegal migration, stop enabling the bad guys who tend to own the third world governments.

Blame America first huh. How deplorable of you.

[Dr. Who]

Blame America first huh. How deplorable of you.

I blame America for meddling in South America both on behalf of American industry and in order to subvert communism (really the same thing) and the CIA for fueling the cocaine industry in America. Cut off the ability of any country to feed its people and eventually some of them will flee and karma dictates that what goes around, comes around. The growth of the drug cartels is because of the CIA's involvement with the Contras in Nicaragua and their being given built-in markets in America. The CIA is a psychopathic organization that at the time was out of control, with black box ops that functioned with no oversight whatsoever and complete deniability.

So, here we go again with Venezuela and Cuba. America does business with Asian communist governments today but when it comes to the biggest oil reserves in the Americas (Venezuela), it's all about forcing regime change regardless of what Venezuelans want. Can't take the chance that they will vote to stick with socialism because that cuts out all the US based "big" oil companies who pay big bucks to get their sycophants elected.