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    Quote Originally Posted by CCitizen View Post
    The Battle of Yorktown was sort of a success for America. But now USA is much worse off then Australia, Canada, NZ. Maybe the victory in Revolutionary War was in the long run a defeat?

    Your opinion of the USA is hypocritical.
    You became a citizen, probably to your benefit in some way, yet post you will never be an American.
    So you want the benefits without the responsibility of any loyalty.

    Would it not be more true to your beliefs and ideals to renounce your American citizenship then, seeing how you say you are NOT an American.

    Just make it so, then.

    ...or are those benefits just too great for you to do that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lummy View Post
    what allies are you talking about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Retirednsmilin308 View Post
    Your opinion of the USA is hypocritical.
    You became a citizen, probably to your benefit in some way, yet post you will never be an American.
    So you want the benefits without the responsibility of any loyalty.
    In my opinion, Society has responsibility toward People. One problem with USA is that Humans are not valued. People who need help get almost nothing. Most American Voters believe that gun rights are more important then loss of life to Suicide and Murder.

    In Scandinavia and Canada, all people are valued by Society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    An unwillingness to see thousands of young American lives squandered on an imperialist misadventure is not a lack of resolve, it's wisdom.
    It was the lack of resolve. We did not do the things needed to win any war.
    Liberals are a clear and present danger to our nation
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCitizen View Post
    In my opinion, Society has responsibility toward People. One problem with USA is that Humans are not valued. People who need help get almost nothing. Most American Voters believe that gun rights are more important then loss of life to Suicide and Murder.

    In Scandinavia and Canada, all people are valued by Society.
    Off topic. Move to some place better. That would make us better.
    Liberals are a clear and present danger to our nation
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCitizen View Post
    In my opinion, Society has responsibility toward People. One problem with USA is that Humans are not valued. People who need help get almost nothing. Most American Voters believe that gun rights are more important then loss of life to Suicide and Murder.

    In Scandinavia and Canada, all people are valued by Society.
    That is not true anymore in Scandinavia since the Muslim migrants moved in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    That is not true anymore in Scandinavia since the Muslim migrants moved in.
    Sadly our Generation does not possess technology to provide high standard of living to All Humans in the World. Hopefully, by the end of the century it will be possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    An unwillingness to see thousands of young American lives squandered on an imperialist misadventure is not a lack of resolve, it's wisdom.
    Only the far left describes American actions--in whatever manner--as "imperialist."

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCitizen View Post
    Sadly our Generation does not possess technology to provide high standard of living to All Humans in the World. Hopefully, by the end of the century it will be possible.
    We do. It is free market capitalism. Where it is tried all people benefit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Well, before we can assess the severity of US defeats, we must first define what it means to win or lose. And as far as I'm concerned, the US loses the second it decides to wage a war that has no nexus to our common defense.
    So, in your opinion, a war that is not waged in direct response to an attack upon our shores is inherently immoral?

    Really?

    Do you not believe--under any circumstances--in protecting American interests (and even through war, if necessary)?

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