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    Quote Originally Posted by Common View Post
    Earlier in the thread I produced the actual cost of illegal immigration based on 2010 inflation of just illegal incarcerations. That does not include the cost for educating their children, medical costs and all other govt costs. I dont believe americans should foot that burden along with all the legal immigration quotas we have.
    If the Americans in those cities want to foot that bill, what place do you or I have to tell them no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Arrow View Post
    If the Americans in those cities want to foot that bill, what place do you or I have to tell them no?
    Do you really think they have a choice? Their tax dollars are supporting those illegals. What makes you think they WANT to? If polled, what percentage would say, "sure, I want to support illegal criminals in my city".....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abby08 View Post
    Do you really think they have a choice? Their tax dollars are supporting those illegals. What makes you think they WANT to? If polled, what percentage would say, "sure, I want to support illegal criminals in my city".....
    I don’t know. In some places probably pretty high.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Arrow View Post
    I don’t know. In some places probably pretty high.
    I'm thinking, probably not. People are becoming tired of their cities placing illegals ahead of legal citizens.

    I think, those who want to support illegals, should write personal checks, make it a, voluntary type thing...it isn't fair to force the taxpayers to support people who are here illegally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Arrow View Post
    If the Americans in those cities want to foot that bill, what place do you or I have to tell them no?
    Then they should pay, the FED funds food stamps.
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    I have always maintained that the nationalization of immigration policy is inconsistent with the original intent of the US Constitution and that the status of immigrants ought to be determined at the state and local level.

    Not only is this consistent with the legal originalism of the founders, but it is a wise policy, since communities are in the best position to judge how well a given individual is assimilating culturally.

    This is how the Swiss do it, for example, and they have virtually no problems with mass immigration or culture clash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    I think some of them are going too far. If a city wants to say, "Hey we don't enforce immigration because that is a federal issue and we aren't paid to do it". I am fine with it. When they go out of their way to shelter immigrants from arrest by federal officials, however, by actively thwarting those encounters, they cross the line.
    I'm fine with the practice of sheltering the immigrants from federal officials. It's the hypocrisy I find intolerable. Because it's Democrats who are always quick to remind everyone how the federal government is "supreme" and that sovereignty at the state and local level does not really exist in any meaningful form. Apparently, they are willinfg to make a very big exception for people who are not even technically Americans. Fancy that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    Yep, America is about freedom and human rights.
    This statement coming from a Hillary Clinton fan is unbelievably ironic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by resister View Post
    Yeah, the freedom to follow the law and come thru the front door, not jump over the back gate. What other laws are you OK with thumbing your nose at?
    He's a Democrat.

    So if you break a law he agrees with, then you're a traitor and a criminal who probably deserves to be thrown in prison or shot down by armed government agents.

    But if you break a law he doesn't agree with, then you're a courageous individual who is engaged in righteous civil disobedience and you deserve our respect and protection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    This statement coming from a Hillary Clinton fan is unbelievably ironic.
    What are human rights anyway?
    Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.


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