Since we outlawed lawyers, there's nobody to go in there and slug it out for the people....Originally Posted by The Xl
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Since we outlawed lawyers, there's nobody to go in there and slug it out for the people....
Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect. -- Woody Hayes
stjames1_53 (03-13-2019)
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No double jeopardy here. That's by design. Mueller coordinated this in order to ensure the state convictions would be pardon proof. California will be the next to indict.
Captdon (03-14-2019),stjames1_53 (03-13-2019)
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Question:
Does Manafort hold real estate in NY? If he doesn't, how can they bring charges against him?
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as I posted, is there proper jurisdiction?
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"The Nation that makes a great distinction between its scholars and its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting done by fools."
- Thucydides
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote" B. Franklin
Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum
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Jurisdiction for what?
A president can not issue a pardon for state or local convictions. That's as clear as I can make it.
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Because he is accused of committing crimes in New York State. You don't need to be a property owner to be accused of committing a crime.
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Perhaps this is what tyranny looks like.
Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.
I pledge allegiance to the Constitution as written and understood by this nation's founders, and to the Republic it created, an indivisible union of sovereign States, with liberty and justice for all.
Captdon (03-14-2019),Sergeant Gleed (03-13-2019)
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I was referring to NY...does it have proper jurisdiction? I give a rat's ass about Trump and his pardon.
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"The Nation that makes a great distinction between its scholars and its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting done by fools."
- Thucydides
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote" B. Franklin
Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum
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It does matter. If he hasn't committed a crime in NY, how can they haul before a state judge?
Or is this a federal case?
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"The Nation that makes a great distinction between its scholars and its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting done by fools."
- Thucydides
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote" B. Franklin
Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum
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Manafort is accused of committing separate crimes in NY. The state has the authority to indict him for those alleged crimes. Who else would have jurisdiction over that?
Captdon (03-14-2019)
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