Sometimes Evil wins.

[MisterVeritis]

Check it out, another thread that conveniently neglects to mention how the Dixiecrat slavery-lovers became Republicans, and how essentially all modern white supremacists are Republican.

This isn't debatable, not by any honest person. The Dixiecrats became Republicans. The White Supremacists who want slavery back are Republicans. Forgetting to mention such things is lying-by-omission. Lying, of course, is a favorite tool of the evil and the authoritarian.

I laughed. I love your sense of humor.

Slavery and the Democrat party go hand-in-glove.
Jim Crow laws and the Democrat party go hand-in-glove.

Republicans abolished slavery.
Republicans supported full rights for black Americans.
Republicans still do.

[DGUtley]

The myth of the disxiecrats becoming Republicans: https://www.nationalreview.com/2014/...m-mona-charen/

"Okay, but didn’t all the old segregationist senators leave the Democratic party and become Republicans after 1964? No, just one did: Strom Thurmond. The rest remained in the Democratic party — including former Klansman Robert Byrd, who became president pro tempore of the Senate.

Former racists of both parties renounced their old views (as Kevin D. Williamson points out, Lyndon Johnson himself voted against anti-lynching laws and poll-tax repeals), and neither party has a perfect record on racial matters by any stretch. But it is a libel to suggest that the Republican party, the anti-slavery party, the party of Lincoln, and the party that traditionally supported civil rights, anti-lynching laws, and integration, became the racist party after 1964."

Found this through google: https://newstalk1130.iheart.com/feat...mocrat-switch/

[donttread]

No one alive today and no party existing as it exist today is either. I believe this tone of "slavery and racism are the other parties fault " is going too far even by today's polarized standards. Both slavery and the blatant racism that followed it for so long can be blamed squarely on the society as a whole. As it can in all the places where such atrocities openly existed with majority acceptance.
It's not the other guys fault. it's our ancestor's fault. Thankfully , the society has changed.

[MMC]

No one alive today and no party existing as it exist today is either. I believe this tone of "slavery and racism are the other parties fault " is going too far even by today's polarized standards. Both slavery and the blatant racism that followed it for so long can be blamed squarely on the society as a whole. As it can in all the places where such atrocities openly existed with majority acceptance.
It's not the other guys fault. it's our ancestor's fault. Thankfully , the society has changed.

Uhm…..No! There is only the Democrats to blame. That is what they were about.....that is what they are about now. Hence the race cards played weekly.....24/7. 365.


Giving a snake feet does not change the nature of the snake.


They don't get to pass the buck and in their PC world. They don't get to run away from accountability.

[Standing Wolf]

Great Britain today would be German.

We'd not have all of the phenomenal things that the United States has brought to this world; including, but not limited to, the Right of Revolution, the right to criticize the government, the principle of Federalism, the consent of the governed, the status of women, the melting pot, freedom of worship, the public school, voluntary giving, technology, due process, the right to counsel, the right to a jury of your peers, the right to a speedy trial, freedom of the press, freedom of religion, and a system of controlled capitalism that has yielded the highest living standards on earth that has made possible a society as nearly classless as man has ever known.

We also wouldn't have ferris wheels, chocolate chip cookies, dental floss, clasp lockers, hearing aids, cardiac defibrillators, radiocarbon dating, traffic lights, crash test dummies, the Ohio State Buckeyes, Assembly lines, lasers, LED's, GPS, chemotherapy, video games, email, the internet, mobild phones, personal computers, and the internet.

Who would've sent England all of those guns when it was preparing for the German invasion without America?

On the other hand, who is to say that all of those revolutionary innovations and inventions would not have been established or discovered by American Colonials under British rule? Given the British Empire's history, does anyone believe that they would not have extended it to the Pacific, dealt with the Indians pretty much as we did, etc., and then gone on, as we have, to reform their legal system, improve their public institutions in terms of civil rights, and advance technology in all fields?

Full disclosure, my first thought when I read the OP was the same as yours - Great Britain would be German - but then I thought that if Britain had the natural resources, manpower, etc. of America at its immediate disposal, perhaps WWII would have been years shorter - with American Colonial troops, armaments and technology making their appearance in that conflict in 1938 instead of '41.

[mamooth]

The myth of the disxiecrats becoming Republicans:

What a ridiculous piece. It essentially said nothing, and tacked a crazy headline on for people to quote.

"Okay, but didn’t all the old segregationist senators leave the Democratic party and become Republicans after 1964?

So that's the center point of your argument. Being that nobody said the switch happened overnight, it fails hilariously.

Any other propaganda pieces are you'd like to trot out to excuse the consistent _conservative_ history of racism? Just leave parties out of it. _Conservatives_ have consistently supported racism. They still do. Address that.

[DGUtley]

On the other hand, who is to say that all of those revolutionary innovations and inventions would not have been established or discovered by American Colonials under British rule? Given the British Empire's history, does anyone believe that they would not have extended it to the Pacific, dealt with the Indians pretty much as we did, etc., and then gone on, as we have, to reform their legal system, improve their public institutions in terms of civil rights, and advance technology in all fields?

Full disclosure, my first thought when I read the OP was the same as yours - Great Britain would be German - but then I thought that if Britain had the natural resources, manpower, etc. of America at its immediate disposal, perhaps WWII would have been years shorter - with American Colonial troops, armaments and technology making their appearance in that conflict in 1938 instead of '41.

I think the argument would be that England hasn't led with inventions in the past 150 years. Hence, b/c its culture, funding, education etc. it wouldn't have. I get your point though.

[MisterVeritis]

England is a socialist country. Socialists countries don't lead in innovation. That is not the point of socialism. Socialist countries lead in misery.

[DGUtley]

What a ridiculous piece. It essentially said nothing, and tacked a crazy headline on for people to quote. So that's the center point of your argument. Being that nobody said the switch happened overnight, it fails hilariously. Any other propaganda pieces are you'd like to trot out to excuse the consistent _conservative_ history of racism? Just leave parties out of it. _Conservatives_ have consistently supported racism. They still do. Address that.

If you can't refute it, mock it, right?

I think that conservatives aspire to colorblindness rather than the individually degrading identity politics habitually practiced by liberals. Conservatives don't have a history of racism. Today, the election of people of color by southern conservatives is at odds with the commonly held myth of a massive population of secret racists conspiring against people of color within the G.O.P. For example, Tim Scott is one of four black senators currently in the U.S Senate. He represent The State of South Carolina, which is known for its historic racist past. Scott ran unopposed in the state primaries and was elected by a large margin over his opponent. Why would secret racists, who hate the idea of racial equality support in mass a black candidate. To add to it, not one of these secret racists thought to challenge him? Likewise, why would the same group of secret racists (and arguably misogynists) elect an Indian woman named Nikki Haley to run their state?
https://thepolicy.us/the-myth-of-the...m-6b788afedcbe


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[Captdon]

Check it out, another thread that conveniently neglects to mention how the Dixiecrat slavery-lovers became Republicans, and how essentially all modern white supremacists are Republican.

This isn't debatable, not by any honest person. The Dixiecrats became Republicans. The White Supremacists who want slavery back are Republicans. Forgetting to mention such things is lying-by-omission. Lying, of course, is a favorite tool of the evil and the authoritarian.

You aren't an honest person so that blows your whole argument out of the water.