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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Soxes View Post
    Are we the ones keeping Chinese wages low?
    What low wages? When I was on the Island of Okinawa the Chinese hooker in Whisper Alley charged the same as the rest. Or so I heard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    I’m sure the long term results will make people forget the short term pain.
    Do you really think that the soybean growers give a rat's behind about whether more steelworkers are employed, if it means they go in the hole for the entire growing season? Are the steelworkers going to send money to the soya bean growers or the auto workers or any of the other sectors that are now being tariffed? No one is going to pay them for their sacrifice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    This is only the beginning of the collateral damage.
    China loses in a trade war against the US. Our damage is minimal as opposed to theirs. They need the US in order to make money. That can't make it up with the EU.
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    More posts ignoring the article. Hack!
    I am tired of everyone fighting with each other. This is all by design.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mamooth View Post
    The breakeven price for growing soybeans is about $10.00/bushel

    https://farmdocdaily.illinois.edu/20...en-prices.html


    Thanks to the loss of Chinese sales, the price of soybeans as of this date is $8.775/bushel.

    http://www.macrotrends.net/2531/soyb...cal-chart-data

    Do the math. Soybean farmers are getting hammered. Some of them are even figuring out that voting for Trump was a really bad idea.

    https://www.agrimarketing.com/s/116175
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    Almost 67 percent of the survey participants said they voted for Trump, versus only 24 percent for Hillary Clinton.
    But when all respondents were asked if they would support Trump's reelection, only 45 percent said they would do so, representing an almost 20 percent drop in support from both Trump and Clinton voters.
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    Wow. A 20% drop in support for Trump among farmers. Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin and Iowa just went solid blue. No wonder the Trump cultists are in such a hysterical meltdown state.


    Coincidence is not causation. Chinese (not Trump) tariffs on soybeans just took effect Friday. But according to your own source, prices have been trending down since 2012:



    The more likely explanation is soybean production has been on the rise for some time:



    The glut in supply has reduced demand, thereby lowering prices...for some time now.

    Do the math.
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    Nah, soyboys are the Democratic base.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    Do you really think that the soybean growers give a rat's behind about whether more steelworkers are employed, if it means they go in the hole for the entire growing season? Are the steelworkers going to send money to the soya bean growers or the auto workers or any of the other sectors that are now being tariffed? No one is going to pay them for their sacrifice.

    Do Canadians give a crap about whether dairy workers are employed? In some cases Canadian tariffs are as high as 270% on Dairy Products!
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    One question, are these some of the same farmers that are being paid by taxpayers not to plant wheat and other crops? If so should we really feel sorry for them? Okay that was two questions.

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    It is absolutely hilarious to see liberals arguing for free trade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    China loses in a trade war against the US. Our damage is minimal as opposed to theirs. They need the US in order to make money. That can't make it up with the EU.
    Perhaps they do, but they are used to hardship.
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