Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.
I pledge allegiance to the Constitution as written and understood by this nation's founders, and to the Republic it created, an indivisible union of sovereign States, with liberty and justice for all.
I have not gotten demeaning or insulting towards you. I am merely stating the obvious.
What you suggest is a very slippery slope.
You, who advocate reducing the impact of government, are proposing to increase the State's power and reducing the citizen's Rights, Power, and what's left of our Privacy, just in case..............
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"The Nation that makes a great distinction between its scholars and its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting done by fools."
- Thucydides
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote" B. Franklin
Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum
Captdon (04-30-2018)
DNA phenotyping is not an acceptable form of forensic technology/science/evidence. It would be useless in court. It would likely be useless for getting a warrant. It is not accurate enough to rely on.
The solution is actually really simple. 1) Provide more funding to crime labs and police departments and 2) pay more money for trained scientists so they don't just go into the private sector. If we're getting ambitious, invest in RapidHIT.
Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.
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Captdon (05-01-2018)
Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.
I pledge allegiance to the Constitution as written and understood by this nation's founders, and to the Republic it created, an indivisible union of sovereign States, with liberty and justice for all.
The DOJ has known about this problem for decades at this point. The 2003 National Institute of Justice's "Report to the Attorney General on Delays in Forensic DNA" laid out the numerous existing problems and provided realistic solutions in the form of 5 key recommendations that should have been followed through on.
If police departments and municipalities can afford tanks and militarization than they could probably put some of that money towards what I suggested. That's just one idea for dealing with the cost factor.
There is no real solution that does not include spending more money on law enforcement. Perhaps it's time to place more of a priority on domestic security and take some money meant for the military and direct it towards this type of issue. The reality is that this is a cost issue. It is a resource issue because trained scientists aren't going to work for pennies in the public sector. It's an investment issue because students are not going into the forensic sciences (largely because of the other issues). It is a failure to adapt new, more expensive technology that pays off in the long run.
It also is not just rape kits that are at risk. Juries are rapidly losing faith in DNA science because there have been so many errors. The reliability of the science is now questioned, and I can cite cases that brought it about if necessary as well as goofy precedents set by the judicial branch.
Heres where you are wrong, if you send in a dna sample to Ancestry.com your dna is no longer private. Just do a simple google and read the myriad of hits that come up about private dna companies sharing and databasing your dna.
Like it or not fighting crime on all levels is a govt function NOT a private function. Mixing the two is ludicrous.
If theres a back log of rape kits its because Law enforcement labs are prioritizing which dna is tested first and what TYPES and for what reasons. For example passing up rape kits for possible serial killer dna or homicides etc.
I would be dead set against any Private online entities like Ancestry.com or any storefront DNA testing facility like the ones Steve Wilkos uses for ANY law enforcement testing.
If necessary expand law enforcements capability to test DNA at a faster pace.
LETS GO BRANDON
F Joe Biden
Again, with the insults. I am merely stating the obvious. You need the DNA of almost everyone in the US. If you cannot find them in a US data base, do you examine the DNA of a person from another country? Let's take good example of this.
What if the rapist is an illegal from Guatemala. How are you going to get DNA from a familia in that country?
I am all for catching criminals. I want to make that clear. But it is immoral to examine everyone's DNA to catch a criminal.
If a cop shows up at my door to ask about a crime of which I have no knowledge of, I do not need to talk to them. In the US, I am well within my Right NOT to talk to them. If they want to compel me to talk, they need to drag me down to the station with warrant in hand, and even then, since I've committed no crime, I am not obligated to talk to them, not even about some remote cousin I've never met. This is no different.
But again, I reiterate. The police cannot use some of these services for a fishing expedition. Here is one example of privacy issues.
https://www.23andme.com/about/privacy/
You cannot force this issue on an individual without their personal consent, or reveal another's DNA connection.2. We will not sell, lease, or rent your individual-level information (i.e., information about a single individual's genotypes, diseases or other traits/characteristics) to any third-party or to a third-party for research purposes without your explicit consent.
4. You may independently decide to disclose your information to friends and/or family members, doctors, health care professionals, or other individuals outside our Services, including through third-party services such as social networks and third-party apps that connect to our website and mobile apps through our application programming interface ("API"); always review the privacy policies of third-party apps and services before sharing your information.
5. We may share anonymized and aggregate information with third-parties; anonymized and aggregate information is any information that has been stripped of your name and contact information and aggregated with information of others or anonymized so that you cannot reasonably be identified as an individual.
Terms of Service
You need a specific warrant. Or we can become another Mueller..........grab anyone you want and start testing to find a guilty party.
Again, I'm only raising some of the concerns that the legal process will run into, and I'm not an attorney.
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"The Nation that makes a great distinction between its scholars and its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting done by fools."
- Thucydides
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote" B. Franklin
Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum
Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.
I pledge allegiance to the Constitution as written and understood by this nation's founders, and to the Republic it created, an indivisible union of sovereign States, with liberty and justice for all.
Are you opposed to the police going door to door where a major crime has occurred to determine if anyone saw anything helpful?
It is not a fishing expedition. The criminal left dna at the crime scene. The company that does the genetic testing is performing the same service for the police-delivered sample as they do for any other customer.
Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.
I pledge allegiance to the Constitution as written and understood by this nation's founders, and to the Republic it created, an indivisible union of sovereign States, with liberty and justice for all.