Russia still at it!!

[Max Rockatansky]

Powell was a hack. He was a political general and well known for it. He had exactly one command in his years in the Army. He was a yes man from day one. No one had to beat him into anything. You don't have to beat putty.

Disagreed on all points except he was more of a political general than most. Still, since our generals have civilian commanders and a civilian Congress funding the military, "political generals" are necessary.

[Common]

Six intelligence agencies heads under oath have testified that the Russians are still interfering in America's elections. This article contains many links to the evidence. Of course some of you would rather blame the press (which might be our last line of defense against the Trump and company liars).

https://www.yahoo.com/news/united-st...170100777.html

Blame obama he allowed them to dig in for 8 yrs

[Mister D]

True, but there's a difference between overt Soviet propaganda and cyber-warfare, hacking and subterfuge.

Yeah, the means of dissemination have changed. First of all anyone who thinks people voted for Trump because of Russian Facebook ads is a $#@!ing idiot. Secondly, teh US has been meddling in elections all over the world since 1945. The world is laughing at our outrage.

[The Xl]

US intelligence deliberately lying for political purposes would be nothing new.

[The Xl]

Yeah, the means of dissemination have changed. First of all anyone who thinks people voted for Trump because of Russian Facebook ads is a $#@!ing idiot. Secondly, teh US has been meddling in elections all over the world since 1945. The world is laughing at our outrage.

It would be laughable if it wasn't so absurd.

[Max Rockatansky]

Yeah, the means of dissemination have changed. First of all anyone who thinks people voted for Trump because of Russian Facebook ads is a $#@!ing idiot. Secondly, teh US has been meddling in elections all over the world since 1945. The world is laughing at our outrage.

1) Agreed the tactics have changed.
2) The Russian attempts can be divided into two things; their attempt and the results. The fact they attempted it is an act of war. The Left wants to conflate their actions with Hillary's loss and that is wrong. Hillary was corrupt, many people knew it on both sides of the aisle and only Hillary fans are sad to see her gone.
3) Whataboutism is a good tactic for the Russians. The logic is, Russia can nuke a city because the United States did it too.

[Max Rockatansky]

US intelligence deliberately lying for political purposes would be nothing new.

That's part of their job as long as it is in the interests of the United States.

[Mister D]

1) Agreed the tactics have changed.
2) The Russian attempts can be divided into two things; their attempt and the results. The fact they attempted it is an act of war. The Left wants to conflate their actions with Hillary's loss and that is wrong. Hillary was corrupt, many people knew it on both sides of the aisle and only Hillary fans are sad to see her gone.
3) Whataboutism is a good tactic for the Russians. The logic is, Russia can nuke a city because the United States did it too.

An act of war? Seriously? What exactly do you suggest we do? Hopefully, you suggest we do nothing because Russian interference was as silly as the reaction to it.

US outrage is downright laughable. I don't care about Russian interference. It's meaningless. This is par for the course. Get used to it. The US government has been engaging in this sort of behavior for your entire life.

Last, I suspect you think it's different when we do it. Is that so?

[Mister D]

It would be laughable if it wasn't so absurd.

It's amazing how naive some Americans become after they lose an election.

[MisterVeritis]

1) Agreed the tactics have changed.
2) The Russian attempts can be divided into two things; their attempt and the results. The fact they attempted it is an act of war. The Left wants to conflate their actions with Hillary's loss and that is wrong. Hillary was corrupt, many people knew it on both sides of the aisle and only Hillary fans are sad to see her gone.
3) Whataboutism is a good tactic for the Russians. The logic is, Russia can nuke a city because the United States did it too.

This makes me smile. We are a nation of buffoons.