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    Is Western Democracy Real or a Facade?

    The United States government and its NATO puppets have been killing Muslim men, women and children for a decade in the name of bringing them democracy. But is the West itself a democracy?

    Skeptics point out that President George W. Bush was put in office by the Supreme Court and that a number of other elections have been decided by electronic voting machines that leave no paper trail. Others note that elected officials represent the special interests that fund their campaigns and not the voters. The bailout of the banks arranged by Bush’s Treasury Secretary and former Goldman Sachs chairman, Henry Paulson, and Washington’s failure to indict any banksters for the fraud that contributed to the financial crisis, are evidence in support of the view that the US government represents money and not the voters.


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    Perhaps future historians will conclude that democracy once served the interests of money in order to break free of the power of kings, aristocracy, and government predations, but as money established control over governments, democracy became a liability. Historians will speak of the transition from the divine right of kings to the divine right of money.


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    Indeed, we're not a democracy and killing people isn't always the best way to convince them our system is best. I do believe in many instances that "spreading democracy" nonsense is spread by people who know better but are using that as a way to make these wars more palatable to the American people. On the flip side, many of those neocons apparently thought that this was a worthy goal but didn't realize that foreign elections that have seen heavy U.S. military action would almost certainly go against the U.S.'s interests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conley View Post
    Indeed, we're not a democracy and killing people isn't always the best way to convince them our system is best. I do believe in many instances that "spreading democracy" nonsense is spread by people who know better but are using that as a way to make these wars more palatable to the American people. On the flip side, many of those neocons apparently thought that this was a worthy goal but didn't realize that foreign elections that have seen heavy U.S. military action would almost certainly go against the U.S.'s interests.
    In this context, when I say "democracy" I am including different kinds of republics as well. I agree with you on all points. In some cases I think it's tough to tell these two kinds of pols apart. People are capable of convincing themselves of all kinds of things.
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    I also hold the American people ultimately accountable. We haven't been duped. We seem to buy into the false dichotomies (e.g. Democrat versus Republican) and do so willingly.
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    We certainly are living in a post Constitutional society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    We certainly are living in a post Constitutional society.
    No doubt about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    I also hold the American people ultimately accountable. We haven't been duped. We seem to buy into the false dichotomies (e.g. Democrat versus Republican) and do so willingly.
    That's fair. I'd like to think the numbers of those who "willingly buy in" are decreasing in numbers, unfortunately the reason they're waking up is because both parties are shameless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    We certainly are living in a post Constitutional society.
    Indeed.
    Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Conley View Post
    That's fair. I'd like to think the numbers of those who "willingly buy in" are decreasing in numbers, unfortunately the reason they're waking up is because both parties are shameless.
    I don't know. I've seen a lot of people online say what we're saying but then they go right back to the partisan foolishness. People have a really hard time abandoning that conceptualization of American politics and it's accompanying vocabulary at least in my experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    I don't know. I've seen a lot of people online say what we're saying but then they go right back to the partisan foolishness. People have a really hard time abandoning that conceptualization of American politics and it's accompanying vocabulary at least in my experience.
    Maybe I spend too much time on this site with all you fancy-pants independents.

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