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    Trump's delusional Iran oil gambit is decades too late

    Trump is using everything he's got to wage economic war on Iran. His problem is that 'everything he's got' is not nearly enough, as the virtual monopoly power once wielded by the US has long since evaporated.
    By Dan Glazebrook - July 9, 2018

    Last week, a senior state department official announced the US' intention to cut Iranian oil exports "to zero" by November 4 this year, by threatening to impose sanctions on any company still trading beyond that date.

    Hitherto, experts had predicted US sanctions would see a reduction of around 500,000 barrels per day (bpd) by the end of the year – barely one-fifth of the country's current export of 2.4 million bpd. Even the sanctions that preceded the 2015 nuclear deal – which, unlike today's unilateral effort, were supported by a broad alliance of world powers, including Russia and China – only succeeded in removing half of Iran's oil from the market.

    This determination to destroy Iran by any means necessary has, of course, been the Trump administration's signature foreign policy since day one, with almost every member of his team harboring a long-held and well documented vendetta against the Islamic Republic. What is new with Trump, however, is not this determination as such – let's not forget that Iran has been on the official Pentagon hit list since at least 2001 – as the means used to pursue it. As I argued in 2014, the nuclear deal was not, on the part of the West, a genuine rapprochement so much as a long term program of Western infiltration, based on the 'Libya model', aimed at building a pro-imperialist fifth column within the Iranian state in order to prepare the ground for 'regime change' in the future. The Trump team, of course, has no patience for the long game, and simply wants to cut to the chase. The reason for this obsession with destroying Iran – shared by all factions of the Western ruling class, despite their differences over means – is obvious: Iran's very existence as an independent state threatens imperial control of the region – which in turns underpins both US military power and the global role of the dollar. And as South-South cooperation continues to develop, this threat grows every day, whilst the means to diminish it are reduced by the same measure.At the same time, the US military encirclement of China – begun in earnest as Obama's 'pivot to Asia', but, like so much else, undergoing major escalation under Trump – is intimately linked to a policy of cutting off China from its suppliers. In this sense, a policy of 'isolating' Iran is aimed at isolating China also, as China is the largest market for Iranian crude.

    Trump's policy, however, is likely to get few buyers. Pepe Escobar has explained the likely response to Trump's plans from each of Iran's top customers: "India will buy Iranian oil with rupees. China also will be totally impervious to the Trump administration's command. Sinopec, for instance, badly needs Iranian oil for new refineries in assorted Chinese provinces, and won't stop buying. Turkish Economy Minister Nihat Zeybekci has been blunt: "The decisions taken by the United States on this issue are not binding for us." He added that: "We recognize no other [country's] interests other than our own." Iran is Turkey's number-one oil supplier, accounting for almost 50 percent of total imports. Russia won't back down from its intention to invest $50 billion in Iran's energy infrastructure. And Iraq won't abandon strategic energy cooperation with Iran. Supply chains rule; Baghdad sends oil from Kirkuk to a refinery in Kermanshah in Iran, and gets refined Iranian oil for southern Iraq."
    https://www.rt.com/op-ed/432418-iran...china-tariffs/

    The rest of the article discusses how the current trade dispute may be a ploy to bring other nations into the "don't buy Iranian oil camp" albeit perhaps, too late, since countries like China, Iran's biggest trading partner, are no longer dependant on access to the US market.
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    China very much needs access to the US market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    Trump is using everything he's got to wage economic war on Iran. His problem is that 'everything he's got' is not nearly enough, as the virtual monopoly power once wielded by the US has long since evaporated.
    By Dan Glazebrook - July 9, 2018

    Last week, a senior state department official announced the US' intention to cut Iranian oil exports "to zero" by November 4 this year, by threatening to impose sanctions on any company still trading beyond that date.

    Hitherto, experts had predicted US sanctions would see a reduction of around 500,000 barrels per day (bpd) by the end of the year – barely one-fifth of the country's current export of 2.4 million bpd. Even the sanctions that preceded the 2015 nuclear deal – which, unlike today's unilateral effort, were supported by a broad alliance of world powers, including Russia and China – only succeeded in removing half of Iran's oil from the market.

    This determination to destroy Iran by any means necessary has, of course, been the Trump administration's signature foreign policy since day one, with almost every member of his team harboring a long-held and well documented vendetta against the Islamic Republic. What is new with Trump, however, is not this determination as such – let's not forget that Iran has been on the official Pentagon hit list since at least 2001 – as the means used to pursue it. As I argued in 2014, the nuclear deal was not, on the part of the West, a genuine rapprochement so much as a long term program of Western infiltration, based on the 'Libya model', aimed at building a pro-imperialist fifth column within the Iranian state in order to prepare the ground for 'regime change' in the future. The Trump team, of course, has no patience for the long game, and simply wants to cut to the chase. The reason for this obsession with destroying Iran – shared by all factions of the Western ruling class, despite their differences over means – is obvious: Iran's very existence as an independent state threatens imperial control of the region – which in turns underpins both US military power and the global role of the dollar. And as South-South cooperation continues to develop, this threat grows every day, whilst the means to diminish it are reduced by the same measure.At the same time, the US military encirclement of China – begun in earnest as Obama's 'pivot to Asia', but, like so much else, undergoing major escalation under Trump – is intimately linked to a policy of cutting off China from its suppliers. In this sense, a policy of 'isolating' Iran is aimed at isolating China also, as China is the largest market for Iranian crude.

    Trump's policy, however, is likely to get few buyers. Pepe Escobar has explained the likely response to Trump's plans from each of Iran's top customers: "India will buy Iranian oil with rupees. China also will be totally impervious to the Trump administration's command. Sinopec, for instance, badly needs Iranian oil for new refineries in assorted Chinese provinces, and won't stop buying. Turkish Economy Minister Nihat Zeybekci has been blunt: "The decisions taken by the United States on this issue are not binding for us." He added that: "We recognize no other [country's] interests other than our own." Iran is Turkey's number-one oil supplier, accounting for almost 50 percent of total imports. Russia won't back down from its intention to invest $50 billion in Iran's energy infrastructure. And Iraq won't abandon strategic energy cooperation with Iran. Supply chains rule; Baghdad sends oil from Kirkuk to a refinery in Kermanshah in Iran, and gets refined Iranian oil for southern Iraq."
    https://www.rt.com/op-ed/432418-iran...china-tariffs/

    The rest of the article discusses how the current trade dispute may be a ploy to bring other nations into the "don't buy Iranian oil camp" albeit perhaps, too late, since countries like China, Iran's biggest trading partner, are no longer dependant on access to the US market.
    I am impressed you agree with a straight-up Russian propaganda piece. Who would have known you would side with Russia against the United States?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    I am impressed you agree with a straight-up Russian propaganda piece. Who would have known you would side with Russia against the United States?
    The writer is not a Russian. He writes and various publications use his pieces. His bio was part of the link.
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    iI hugely Prefer Trumps approach to handling Iran than Obama giving them near a billion dollars on the SNEAK to proliferate their nukes and hatred of us and Israel.

    Trying to do SOMETHING is always better than doing nothing in this situation
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    Quote Originally Posted by Common View Post
    iI hugely Prefer Trumps approach to handling Iran than Obama giving them near a billion dollars on the SNEAK to proliferate their nukes and hatred of us and Israel.


    Trying to do SOMETHING is always better than doing nothing in this situation

    It will cost Iran 35 billion dollars. That's not peanuts. It will cost us nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    The writer is not a Russian. He writes and various publications use his pieces. His bio was part of the link.
    You don't have to be Russian to write propaganda for them.
    Liberals are a clear and present danger to our nation
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    The writer is not a Russian. He writes and various publications use his pieces. His bio was part of the link.

    I suggest that you get aquainted with some of his past writings. I'll just leave it at that.

    But yes, this is a piece of Russian propaganda. I find RT to be interesting at times, but one must always keep in mind it's essentially an outlet for Russian propaganda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    It will cost Iran 35 billion dollars. That's not peanuts. It will cost us nothing.
    There's nothing delusional about trying to economically isolate Iran.

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    I am impressed you agree with a straight-up Russian propaganda piece. Who would have known you would side with Russia against the United States?
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    The writer is not a Russian. He writes and various publications use his pieces. His bio was part of the link.
    I did not say the author was Russian. The Russian propaganda piece was published on Russia Today (RT).
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