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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    Sell out docs USED to say that but the truth is the King of England knew how bad tobacco was in 1604. Money, power and influence kept your government from even begining to warn you for another 360 years.

    We have known that smoking was bad for your heath for at least 100 years. Cigarettes were called coffin nails when I was in grade school in the 1950's. I remember seeing a cartoon that dated back to the 40's that showed the dangers of smoking. Coaches would not let their players smoke because of the health effects. For anyone in the 1960's to say they were unaware cigarettes were harmful meant they had to already be brain dead.

    Actually, I quit for two reasons, one (first and foremost) was that I almost burned my infant son's face with a cigarette I had in my mouth when I picked him up and (20), cigarettes went from 35 cents a pack to 50 cents a pack and I thought that was outrageous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45 View Post
    We have known that smoking was bad for your heath for at least 100 years. Cigarettes were called coffin nails when in was in grade school in the 1950's. Coaches would not let their players smoke because of the health effects. For anyone in the 1960's to say they were unaware cigarettes were harmful meant they had to already be brain dead.

    Actually, I quit for two reasons, one (first and foremost) was that I almost burned my infant son's face with a cigarette I had in my mouth when I picked him up and (20), cigarettes went from 35 cents a pack to 50 cents a pack and I thought that was outrageous.
    Marlboros (I don't buy them) cost over 6 $ a pack. Most of that is TAX, the fed ought to be forced to have a peoples audit, where does that $ go?
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    Quote Originally Posted by resister View Post
    Marlboros (I don't buy them) cost over 6 $ a pack. Most of that is TAX, the fed ought to be forced to have a peoples audit, where does that $ go?
    It subsidizes the tobacco industry as the sales of cigarettes declines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45 View Post
    It subsidizes the tobacco industry as the sales of cigarettes declines.
    No doubt, but wonder what else, that's a barge ton of $.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    Their name would suggest they are ninja creatures in the wild.
    Well I know I don't have the flexability to smear tobacco resins on my quills!

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    Well I know I don't have the flexability to smear tobacco resins on my quills!
    I am far from an expert on hedgehoggery, but I seem to recall that before they became a trendy pocket pet, they hid in hedges until after dark and a lot of people didn't know they were there.

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    If you think about it, tobacco became bad when the Hollywood guys in the white hats stopped smoking and the guys in the black hats picked it up... nothing racial here more good guy/bad guy cowboy thing...think about it!

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    Save yerself a triple bypass...

    Study: Smokers Better Off Quitting, Even With Weight Gain
    August 15, 2018 — If you quit smoking and gain weight, it may seem like you're trading one set of health problems for another. But a new U.S. study finds you're still better off in the long run.
    Compared with smokers, even the quitters who gained the most weight had at least a 50 percent lower risk of dying prematurely from heart disease and other causes, the Harvard-led study found. The study is impressive in its size and scope and should put to rest any myth that there are prohibitive weight-related health consequences to quitting cigarettes, said Dr. William Dietz, a public health expert at George Washington University. "The paper makes pretty clear that your health improves, even if you gain weight,'' said Dietz, who was not involved in the research. "I don't think we knew that with the assurance that this paper provides.'' The New England Journal of Medicine published the study Wednesday. The journal also published a Swedish study that found quitting smoking seems to be the best thing diabetics can do to cut their risk of dying prematurely.



    10 pounds or more


    The nicotine in cigarettes can suppress appetite and boost metabolism. Many smokers who quit and don't step up their exercise find they eat more and gain weight — typically less than 10 pounds (4.5 kilograms), but in some cases three times that much. A lot of weight gain is a cause of the most common form of diabetes, a disease in which blood sugar levels are higher than normal. Diabetes can lead to problems including blindness, nerve damage, heart and kidney disease, and poor blood flow to the legs and feet. In the U.S. study, researchers tracked more than 170,000 men and women over roughly 20 years, looking at what they said in health questionnaires given every two years.



    Compared with smokers, even quitters who gained the most weight had at least a 50 percent lower risk of dying prematurely from heart disease and other causes, a Harvard-led study has found.



    The people enrolled in the studies were all health professionals, and did not mirror current smokers in the general population, who are disproportionately low-income, less educated and more likely to smoke heavily. The researchers checked which study participants quit smoking and followed whether they gained weight and developed diabetes, heart disease or other conditions. Quitters saw their risk of diabetes increase by 22 percent in the six years after they kicked the habit. An editorial in the journal characterized it as "a mild elevation'' in the diabetes risk.

    Studies previously showed that people who quit have an elevated risk of developing diabetes, said Dr. Qi Sun, one the study's authors. He is a researcher at the Harvard-affiliated Brigham and Women's Hospital. But that risk doesn't endure, and it never leads to a higher premature death rate than what smokers face, he said. "Regardless of the amount of weight gain, quitters always have a lower risk of dying'' prematurely, Sun said.

    https://www.voanews.com/a/study-smok...n/4530374.html

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    If smoking is outlawed, what about the tobacco workers' jobs? Don't get me wrong, I fully support anyone who quits, it is a nasty habit. But I don't put down smokers who still like it. It is still a free country.
    Proud Boomer, Trump Fan, Not PC but very opinionated. Keep America Great!

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    I've always thought it was funny to watch smokers all of a sudden start hacking that $#@! up out of their lungs.

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